John Sickels on Clevelan Santeliz
Clevelan Santeliz, RHP, Chicago White Sox
Bats: R Throws: R HT: 6-0 WT: 190 DOB: September 1, 1986
After futzing around as a starter unsuccessfully in 2008, Santeliz moved back to the bullpen in '09 and was very impressive at times for Double-A Birmingham. He's got a terrific fastball at 95-98 MPH, with movement, and he continued to make strides with his slider and splitter, though both pitchers remain erratic. He posted good K/IP and H/IP marks, but his walk rate was still high and that will hurt him at higher levels. There was a lot of good luck involved with the 0.96 ERA: his FIP was 4.00, much better than the 5.98 mark he posted in '08, but showing that the ERA overstates how much he improved. I remain intrigued with his arm strength, but the control still worries me. Don't overrate him based on the pretty ERA. Grade C.
about 2 years ago
larry
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so let me get this straight, this clevelan santeliz is actually 2 people?
Cashing checks and having sex.
But ERA and wins are the only things that matter.
Everybody knows that. That’s what’s on the scoreboard.
You beat me to that.
If he is not impressed with Hudson I bet Santeliz gets no mention.
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
by winningugly on Jan 29, 2010 3:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
uhm, yeah, I'd pretty much say so, since Sickels has Hudson as a top 25 pitcher
in the Minors and he is giving Santeliz a grace of “C”.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 29, 2010 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
Clevelan Santeliz:
The “d” is missing.
by The Actual El Guapo on Jan 29, 2010 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
I think on average that 23 might be...
slightly old (21-22 is about right for AA, no?), but I consider it more normal in this instance since he switched from being a starter to be a reliever. It’s a good question, and I’d be interested in larry’s response, especially as it applies to Mr. Santeliz.
defer to cheat's post on age for level
http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/4/2/817544/statistical-prospect-evaluation
as said above, slightly old but not a major issue.
to follow on, since not clear from your post,
but, for clarity’s sake, santeliz was 22 last season so he was fine for level.
Home runs suck, defense metrics suck, and therefore, the Red Sox suck.
Chicago White Sox Examiner — IT'S A JEEP THING YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND
jorge luis would be so disappointed
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
If this column had been written fifteen years ago it would have been about how email is strange and web addresses look funny
Why are sports columnists still being given money? They are as ossified as they are unfunny. (And vis a vis the recent thread where David Haugh was brought up, there’s a massive decline in the quality of writing when he’s not talking about the Bears.)
Sickels' book out next week!
For some reason or not, the filter here at work isn’t working today and I can get to this site. Somewhere I think this is God’s way of easing my pain for the loss of one Gentlemen Masher who was abducted by our ice fishing neighbors to the north.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
Typical..
Apparently even computer filters are lazy on Friday’s.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 29, 2010 2:06 PM CST up reply actions
Santeliz
assuming his control improves, do you see him as a possible call up to the pen in 2010 (due to roster injury or sept. call up)? Gotta like that fastball.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
10. Clevelan Santeliz: 2009 MiLB line: 56.1 IP, 43 H, 35 BB, 52 K at Birmingham. Santeliz improved his control markedly as the season wore on. In the first half, he walked 27 in 35 innings. In the second half, just 8 in 21.1. If that improvement is real, the 23 year old righty could find himself and his mid-90s fastball and plus slider in the bullpen role sooner rather than later. ETA: Mid-2010. Will be in Charlotte and probably will be the first choice for a reliever call-up.
http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/10/9/1056955/the-official-sss-top-ten-white-sox
whoa
no “that’s what the search box is for” comment. larry must be in a good mood. You must be buyin’ what CAIRO is selling:
Where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do, you can't be any part of.
Reassess, plz.
“Mood” indicates emotional range. larry’ emotional UZR is worse than JD’s RF defensive stats.
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
by winningugly on Jan 29, 2010 3:16 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
Someone get this man a kitten and a hug S.T.A.T.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Jan 29, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
*the kitten is for larry to torture and dismember, of course.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Jan 29, 2010 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
ever heard of not waking a sleeping tiger (unless you're elin and tiger is on ambien)??
he obviously is getting his ladies lined up for the weekend (allah Tiger pre-thanksgiving) and doesn’t have the patience or time to go round and round with the likes of me.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 29, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
I think you meant "a la Tiger"
or you and Ahmedinejad have got yourselves one wacky jihad.
sorry, I was brushing up on The Koran and my mind got lost.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jan 29, 2010 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
Derka derka, Mohammed Jihad. Haka sherpa-sherpa. Abaka-la!
ahhhhh,derkaderka!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Jan 29, 2010 3:28 PM CST up reply actions
No whoosh. That's what came to mind, what with the "allah" and the "jihad."
:)
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Jan 29, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
What young people, which ones, where, who dat?
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Jan 29, 2010 4:33 PM CST up reply actions
This comment was not made with the expressed written consent of the National Football League.
Please cease and desist.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Jan 29, 2010 6:20 PM CST up reply actions
to me it sounds like he should have been part of the 2007 pen
with “stuff” guys like Aaaaaaaaaardsma, sisqo et. all
Kenwo4life=ratings
at least sisqo contributed the thong song though.
it was always fun when they would play that at the local drinking saloons and the broads would all show em :) 
Kenwo4life=ratings
ummm
it was always fun
Wrong, unless that is what floats yer boat.
I would rather...
try and handle one of those beasts than see half the DH at bats go to Vizquel/Kotsay this year, that’s for sure.
PICK A ROLL AND FUCK IT!
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 29, 2010 6:16 PM CST up reply actions
exactly
lmfao!
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 29, 2010 8:37 PM CST up reply actions
good old sisqo
I jumped into a car in vegas and ended up at the Mtv beach house in San Diego just in time for Sisqo’s shakedown. Now that was a vacation!
WordUpThome: WILL I BE REQUIRED TO PLAY INSIDE OF THE TRASH BAGS OR SIMPLY AMONGST THEM
In a package for a left handed DH?
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Jan 29, 2010 4:33 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
just read Dye turned down the 3.3 million offer from the cubs
that Nady eventually got. On one hand I think this was a bad decision because I don’t think he’s gunna get more than that. On the other hand I am happy he did….because seeing JD in Cubbie blue…..well that would have made me cry.
Kenwo4life=ratings
you don't cry
you’re a robot programmed to hate Paul Konerko
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
by colintj on Jan 29, 2010 5:03 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
ozzie, jagoff!
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Jan 29, 2010 6:22 PM CST up reply actions
More than seeing Thome in a Twink's uni?
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Jan 29, 2010 5:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
.
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jan 29, 2010 6:17 PM CST up reply actions
i always liked Dye more than Thome....
and I like the Twins better than the Cubs. So yes….but just by a little.
Kenwo4life=ratings
what does Dye have on Thome
besides pigments?
by Daniel Berlyn on Jan 29, 2010 8:27 PM CST up reply actions
KenWo doesn't trust southpaws.
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
ahem.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Jan 29, 2010 8:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
racist.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Jan 29, 2010 8:28 PM CST up reply actions
About time you resurrected the sig.
One of the best of all time.
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
I just wish I coulve broke my new one out one post in front of that.
"What a salty treat for your mouth-chamber!" -hsa
Your sig = worlds colliding! ;p
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 1, 2010 9:55 AM CST up reply actions
I know. Old faithful. It gives each of my comments a certain
je ne sais quoi …
A touch of class, you could say.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 1, 2010 9:56 AM CST up reply actions
Gardy thinks Mauer deal gets done before ST.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/minnesota-twins-optimistic-on-joe-mauer-012910
Teh Twinn: Flush with cash. The Sox: Flushed.
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
Saturday Linkage:
Probably a money thing.
If he’s in the 6-7 million range? No mas.
Other nuggets from the article – they looked at Delgado in PR. Pass. Not interested in Blalock or Branyan.
The door’s not closed. Looks like the organization will see how it pans out in spring training first.
Well assuming Levine's reporting is accurate......
It’s discouraging that the LH DH is being tabled, yet encouraging that they are at least “keeping an eye” on Damon.
What are the realistic possibilities right now for Damon?
no chance it holds a candle to run to me!
am i right fellow fans of christy reece?!?
Cashing checks and having sex.
it hasn't even come out yet, jagbag.
the last trilogy was sweet. reece is just entering her prime so i’d expect this next trilogy to be worth at least 4.5 LOSR.
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