In memory of Bill Gleason, Sun-Times columnist and unapologetic White Sox homer, video of the Sports Writers on TV saying goodbye to Old Comiskey.
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Longtime Chicago Sun-Times columnist Bill Gleason, who worked for more than 60 years in Chicago journalism, died Sunday. He was 87.
Former Chicago Tribune reporter Bill Jauss, who called Gleason “my mentor and best friend in the newspaper business,” said Gleason’s last words were, “You guys had a great time.”
Former Tribune and Sun-Times journalist Mike Downey recalled Gleason as true White Sox fan. And if readers who were Cubs fans didn’t like, that was just too bad.
“Gleason was a White Sox homer and had the courage to say so,” Downey wrote Sunday from his home in California. "You rarely if ever knew of a New York or California sports columnist who publicly declared an allegiance to one local team over another, but Gleason believed a true Chicago baseball fan was one who chose sides. He made a commitment to the South Side personally and professionally. If a Cubs fan didn’t care for that, well, in Bill’s book, tough.
In 2006, Gleason convalesced at a suburban rehabilitation center after suffering a fall that led to him losing vision in his right eye. When Tribune columnist Fred Mitchell called to wish him luck in his recovery, Gleason responded: “I wish you the best of luck in making it through the Bears’ crisis this season.”
In 2005, Jauss looked back on his half-century as a reporter and included Gleason among the best he had seen. Wrote Jauss, “Legendary sportswriter Bill Gleason knew the reading preferences and passions of Chicago fans like few others. He knew, when others scoffed at the idea, that fans would listen to and watch writers argue about sports on radio and TV.”
Downey recalled Gleason as journalist most comfortable working close to home.
“Bill Gleason wasn’t much interested in the wide world of sports. He was interested in the Midwest’s world of sports,” Downey said. “Jack Griffin would go all the way to Africa for the Sun-Times to cover a Muhammad Ali fight, whereas Gleason’s idea of a long road trip was one to South Bend.”
In addition to the Sun-Times, Gleason worked for the defunct Chicago American. He also served in the military during World War II.
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/01/former-sun-times-columnist-bill-gleason-dead-at-87.html
sun times finally got around to publishing a story about their own former columnist, hours after the tribune.
and this is what they came up with:
For more than 60 years, writer Bill Gleason informed, enlightened and entertained Chicago sports readers. The former Sun-Times columnist died today at age 87.
Gleason may have become best known as the cigar-chomping, hat-adorning, mouth-squawking character on “The Sports Writers on TV” cable show during the mid-1980s. A round-table of local sports media members such as Bill Jauss, Rick Telander and Ben Bentley, the show introduced the rest of America to some Chicago media legends.
Gleason also wrote for the defunct Chicago American.
More to come.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/1971210,bill-gleason-sports-columnist-dead-03.article
pretty sad (both bill gleason's death and the sun-times coverage)
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Jan 4, 2010 8:22 AM CST up reply actions
Suntimes website just slow..
They are always behind the Tribune’s website. This has been the case for years. They just don’t update as much or as quickly as the Tribune.
If I was running the Suntimes, I wouldn’t be concerned about this story but the fact that every story gets posted by the Tribune first. I don’t even waste my time on the Suntimes website because I know it will be a day behind.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 4, 2010 8:42 AM CST up reply actions
seconded.
Am I the only one reminded of the “The Grinch who Stole Christmas” when the Grinch showed he had a heart, even it it was several sizes two small?
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jan 4, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
larry knows his Sox history,
and he knows who’s on the right side of Chicago baseball.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
The first part I will agree with...
I am confused by the ‘right side of Chicago baseball’ comment, however. Is there a ‘wrong side’, like the Confederacy, the Axis Powers, or AirAmerica?
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jan 4, 2010 2:13 PM CST up reply actions
Grinch was back to being an asshole by April, though
That’s the story no one tells
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by billyok on Jan 4, 2010 2:41 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I have a feeling our beloved grinch will be able to recover far quicker...
no dog Max to keep the warm fuzzy holiday feeling alive, and still aways before pitchers and catchers report.
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jan 4, 2010 2:54 PM CST up reply actions
Thank you Larry.
I knew Gleason well, having worked with him in the 80’s. Without going into details, I’ll say that he loved the White Sox with a passion, and a perspective unrivalled. Sometime that lead to a cynicism/pessimism that bled into his columns, but not much different from what we do here.
He could often be a pain in the ass, but my times with him were worth the experience and, at least partially, influence me today.
RIP old man.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Jan 3, 2010 6:00 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Sorry for the typos.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Jan 3, 2010 6:02 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
You're a legend, pops.
I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza
by homesickalien on Jan 4, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
get in there
“Fergiescum, Cantona, the lesser Charlton brother, Eamonn Holmes, Ashley from Corrie, Aungus Deaton, George ’ the liver thief ’ Best, half of the population, Mick Hucknall, Matt Busby, the Cockney Reds, the prawn sandwich brigade, the camera carrying tourists at Old Trafford, the yanks who have never seen a game, Terry Christian and of course Gary fucking Neville -—— your boys took one hell of a beating
by hoodlight on Jan 3, 2010 6:11 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
what's up bitches?
did we get adam laroche yet?
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by onlysoxfaninboston on Jan 3, 2010 6:35 PM CST reply actions
Many lunches w/ Gleason over the years...
…at the Michigan Avenue Pub. He’d order the same thing: a gyros sandwich and a two martinis. No shit.
Thanks for sharing
I do not even remember going to Old Comiskey. I do remember going baseball games that were important because of some reason though and then shortly after going to opening day at the new park.
It is still important for us to learn the history and tradition of the team though. Kinda crazy to think they started playing at the stadium in 1910!
Show No. 71: July 11, 1988
TOPIC: RACCOONS
Bentley: Young Telander wants to talk about—are you ready for this?—raccoons.
Telander: Yeah, Ben, it’s a good time of year to be talking about raccoons, because they’re assaulting my garbage cans even as we speak. But it is kind of serious-well, there is a virus that has been genetically engineered that when given to raccoons can wipe out rabies in the animals. You put it on things called “Racky Snacks.”
(Wild laughter.)
Gleason: Hey, this is serious!
Bentley: I don’t see raccoons in Chicago. Where do you live?
Jauss: Where I’m at, we got squirrels.
Gleason: Hey, you should be in Beverly, where I live. There are more raccoons than people.
Jauss: A squirrel from Chicago can beat up a raccoon from the suburbs.
Bentley: I’m with you.
Gleason: Let the man tell his story!
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1123124/5/index.htm
by larry on Jan 3, 2010 9:10 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
Some more Bill Gleason stuff
Gleason, then a columnist for the Sun-Times, was called in to fill time with Jimmy Piersall as Disco Demolition raged below.
From the Sportswriters TV show, Gleason, Bill Jauss, Ben Bentley, and Rick Telander discuss the suicide of Kurt Cobain, and whether athletes feel the same pressure as young musicians who become famous overnight.
this has nothing to do with bill gleason.. who i respect. I also played ball with his nephew.. good dude.
but Kurt Cobain is a fucking douchebag. I never liked him, I thought his music sucked balls, he was basically the start of all this Emo pussy bullshit… its unfortunate he didn’t whack himself before he became famous.
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Wow
Not too soon. But Christ, you’re building some karmic debt there.
White Sox fan; Jeppson's Malort man
by KarkoviceIsHawt on Jan 4, 2010 12:25 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
eh if karma had anything to do with anything i would have been gone long ago.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 4, 2010 12:30 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
It works for two reasons
1- Telander played the role of “the kid” on the show. He was the only boomer on the panel.
2- This clip demonstrates that the show wasn’t really about sports. They talked about life. Since three of the guys on the panel had been around the block and then some, it wasn’t hard for the discussion to get away from what happened on the field.
3- Cobain was 27, so it made sense to wonder if athletes who were the same age were having a hard time dealing with the pressures of fame.
4- I wasn’t much of a Nirvana fan at the time (I was in 8th grade), but Nirvana was the first group of its kind to experience mega-success. Until Nirvana came along, most mainstream rock was still part of the Beatles/Who/Zeppelin/Van Halen continuum. Nirvana represented the generation that grew up with Punk, which is why Cobain became the representative of Generation X, such as it was.
Anyway, I thought it was interesting that you had a bunch of guys who took the streetcar to watch Babe Ruth play baseball at Comiskey Park talking about the suicide of a singer their grandkids liked. Pretty thoughtful for a sports discussion show, and something you would never see on “Around the Horn.”
by 67WMAQ on Jan 4, 2010 12:59 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
oh i understand... I really liked their program..though telander was kind of (and still is) a douche
I was just saying my personal feelings of Nirvana… particularly their frontman. Sportswriters on tv was way more in depth than around the horn will ever be.
before nirvana rock and roll was fun. you had van halen, motley crue, def leppard… yah i was a fan of the hair bands haha…. kobain made everything so fucking depressing…when he was alive…. and then he killed himself which depressed all of his friends and the next 10 years of rock music afterwards. so screw him!
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 4, 2010 7:23 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I was fine with your opinion
Until it came out that you liked hair bands. Far worse than any alternative rock.
by Grinder in Training on Jan 4, 2010 8:46 AM CST up reply actions
By any chance
Have you seen ‘The Wrestler’ ?
White Sox fan; Jeppson's Malort man
by KarkoviceIsHawt on Jan 4, 2010 8:48 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Music is only as crappy as you're willing to make it
If you’re looking for shells on a sandbar, you’re only going to find the same broken crap everyone else finds. But if you dig around and know where to look, there’s always, always great music to find in any era. Cobain didn’t change the agendas of every musician alive just because he got famous and sold some records.
And to his credit, Nirvana’s attempts at balladry never stooped to the weepy, air-punch-under-a-waterfall-with-a-tiny-implied-tear-as-i-reach-out-to-the-heavens levels that hair bands did whenever they needed to sell a single.
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by billyok on Jan 4, 2010 8:55 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
it's hilarious that you deride current hair rock yet proclaim your allegiance to previous hair rock.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Jan 4, 2010 12:35 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
This does not compute.
Sportswriters on TV that are not yelling at one another, sounding coherent and making salient points? What universe is this from?
Vinny Del Negro interviewed for the job today. I mean come on! Nobody else thinks this is nuts?
by Juiceboxjerry on Jun 6, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Jan 4, 2010 9:40 AM CST up reply actions
watching this really brought me back
to when i was a kid at comiskey park. I loved that stadium. The arches, the green, the upper deck in the outfield… pretty cool. I like the Cell now…they have done a nice job after US cell took over…. but nothing will ever compare to old comiskey.
Kenwo4life=ratings
in a world without sports radio
you took your sportstalk however you could find it. and you liked it.
something kind of neat
not sure if you guys have seen it yet
http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/files/newsstand/beat/Hall%20of%20Fame/
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
i'm surprised alomar is getting so many votes
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
I'm not.
I voted for him. However, I am surprised (and didappointed) the Dawson push is working.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
i voted for him as well
i’m just surprised the voters aren’t being d-bags and viewing him as not “first-ballot” worthy
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
Write-in candidates tend not to fare well.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
church, the sportswriters, and yardwork
were the three constants for my dad on sundays when i was little. i wish the show was on now, when i actually care more about sports than i did as a child.
" Do you guys know people like you are the reason I wouldn’t come on for exstended periods of time. You rui the baseball blogging expieriance."
by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT
You forgot "banging the old lady" as one of the constants.
He didn’t tell you? It’s in the Bible.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
it makes me wonder whether i'm allowed to be nostalgic
for something that i didn’t like when i was 8.
2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper
The guy dies
and you crap on his eulogy. Nice. He probably didn’t like you when you were 8, either.
"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."
Sometimes, on a slow weekend, I crash various local funerals and tell all the attendees that I don't know who the deceased was and therefore did not care for him or her
And people give me the dirtiest looks… like it’s my fault I didn’t know them?! Some people I tell ya.
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larry put this up, right?
it was tainted before i got here.
2009 is just 2007 in 2008's clothing. - Trooper
Can we possibly avoid a conversation that involves the words 'larry' and 'taint'?
I just really dont want to see those two words in a sentence. again.
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jan 4, 2010 11:37 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Permission Granted....
When I was 8, I hated the tube of Liverwurst that my dad kept in the fridge, could not stand watching football on TV, and thought girls were… icky.
Now, every time i eat liverwurst I think of the old man, I watch the bears religiously, and girls are the opposite of icky. (except the sticky ones)
There's Your Zagnut!!!
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jan 4, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions
Damned cigars.
They finally got him.
Anyone remember Chicago Sports magazine? Gleason put that out for a couple of years after he left the Sun-Times. Fun stuff, but nothing can beat him and Jauss interrupting each other for hours on end.
Watching that video...
I suddenly have an incredible taste for Chicken Unlimited Chicken and a Falstaff.
"One more game and then we can blow this son of a b@#$* up!" - Hawk Harrelson on his thoughts regarding the Metrodome
Without the Sportswriters' shows on the radio and later on TV, the current sports media landscape (for better or for worse) would not exist.
Gleason was easily the most memorable presence on both shows — if there was a star, he was it.
RIP.
by The Actual El Guapo on Jan 4, 2010 6:01 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I always liked it when he threatened his wife and said, 'To the moon Alice!'
logic's been dead
kenwo shoots from his hip and thinks with his gut.
by colintj on Dec 29, 2009 1:15 PM CST
dropping like flies
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/sports_blog/2010/01/angels-announcer-rory-markas-dies.html
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