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Courtesy of Scott Merkin.

In news that shouldn't surprise anyone:

According to [Buddy] Bell, there was a bit of a discrepancy in [Juan] Silverio's papers over his age, so he ended up spending last year with the White Sox Dominican team. But Silverio was back for a great instructional league showing this past fall and might have physically outgrown the shortstop position.

The speculation about it was obvious based upon his return to the Dominican in 2009 after spending 2008 with Rookie League Bristol as numerous players were unable to get visas due to improper documents. However, this is the first time it has been confirmed. Since he was in the US for instructional league, it appears that the issue has been resolved and he'll be back in the US minor leagues next season, likely Kannapolis.

More unsuprising news:

Look for Viciedo to play both third base and first base this season, probably starting the year for Triple-A Charlotte. Bell said the present reports out of Miami from bench coach Joey Cora and Minor League pitching coach Jose Bautista have been solid concerning Viciedo's ongoing conditioning work and that Viciedo could contribute offensively at the big league level in 2010.

Viciedo rather obviously could not handle third so the move to first was inevitable.

The luminaries will be out in Arizona this weekend:

Champion and Bell will join pitching coach Don Cooper, bullpen coach Juan Nieves and another highly respected White Sox Minor League pitching coach in Curt Hasler during this weekend's voluntary White Sox pitching minicamp at Camelback Ranch in Glendale, Ariz. Young pitchers such as Daniel Hudson and Lucas Harrell will be joined by infielder-turned-reliever Sergio Santos, among others, along with appearances by Peavy, Matt Thornton and J.J. Putz in this optional skull session.

And for winningugly:

Due to Mitchell's reduced baseball experience as a two-sport athlete at LSU, Bell said the White Sox "will be slower with him then we would be with most No. 1 picks."

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Buddy Bell must be euthanized.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Jan 6, 2010 7:53 PM CST reply actions  

So any word on how old Silverio is?

There was some chatter that he was 34 or something fantastic. I can’t imagine that’s true if they’ve bothered to get him back to the States.

What kind of prospect is he now?

by coffeepac on Jan 6, 2010 8:32 PM CST reply actions  

i'd doubt he's more than 2 years off his originally listed age.

probably born in 89 or 90.

i haven’t really thought of him as much of a prospect. not sure it really changes much. of course, bell called him “one of our higher-prospect kids”, whatever the hell that means.

by larry on Jan 6, 2010 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

ahh, okay. thanks.

we can always use more utility infielders to trade for third basemen.

by coffeepac on Jan 7, 2010 9:35 AM CST up reply actions  

34??

Jesus.. I do not see how you would be able to pull that off

by 815Sox on Jan 6, 2010 10:38 PM CST up reply actions  

This seems interesting..

It seems now that Viciedo is trying to find himself a true posistion, if you ask me it is definitely not 3rd and it seems it will either be 1st or DH. I can’t recall off the top of my head from last spring, how storng is Viciedos arm really? Just Curious because if it is indeed strong, is the outfield not a possibility for him? Preferrably one of the corner spots.

by Soxfanatic on Jan 6, 2010 8:46 PM CST reply actions  

The last time Bell was in the White Sox organization

Frank Thomas played first. So there you go.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Jan 6, 2010 9:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Viciedo's arm is good.

Not a cannon, but good. Acceleration isn’t his strong suit, though.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Jan 6, 2010 9:10 PM CST up reply actions  

Ive heard he could throw 93 mph

no joke

See, this is what happens when the Sox bunt.
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by blackoutsox on Jan 7, 2010 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Rating the Managers by Intentional Walks
The intentional walk is one of the more more overused moves in MLB. The goal of this post is to identify which managers most frequently overuse the free pass. (I did a similar post last season that you can view by clicking here.)

The reason why IBBs are usually a bad idea is because putting a runner on increases the opposing team’s chances of scoring in every base-out combination possible. Of course, despite that, intentional walks can still help a team’s chances of winning in specific, strategic situations, like late in close games, two outs, a star hitter at the plate, and a much less dangerous hitter on deck. But you have to be judicious, and most managers are not.

interesting stuff at link

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/320766-rating-the-managers-by-intentional-walks

by larry on Jan 6, 2010 10:04 PM CST reply actions  

use it to set up a DP...

I’m a big fan of the intentional walk and don’t think it is used often enough.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 6, 2010 11:14 PM CST up reply actions  

BA grades the 2005-2008 drafts
White Sox A C D C+ 2.38

(first letter grade is 2008 and then descending to 2005; last is GPA from that period. yes, they used GPA)

http://www.baseballamerica.com/blog/draft/?p=1925

by larry on Jan 7, 2010 8:50 AM CST reply actions  

Phil?

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Jan 7, 2010 9:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Hells Bells!

The important part is our grades are AC/DC. Fuck yes!

His name is Rios and he dances on the sand

by Nordhagen on Jan 7, 2010 9:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Metal.

The Boogeyman cometh

by omnipotent grab on Jan 7, 2010 10:07 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

public service announcement for anyone who misses wilson betemit

he is tearing up the dominican league (mlb has him listed with a .928 OPS in 166 ABs playing for gigantes and a .940 OPS in 162 ABs playing for leones.)(i believe he solely plays for gigantes). anyways, you may see him play at 5:30 cst today as gigantes takes on leones on espn360.

the suck is not just a river in ireland.

by BuehrleMan on Jan 7, 2010 9:24 AM CST reply actions  

Well, that's too much for him at this point.

And apparently he doesn’t, so screw him. Christ, we need a hitter with a ceiling that isn’t an absolute prayer for him to reach, but we’re running out of options.

by dantesox on Jan 7, 2010 3:57 PM CST up reply actions  

on the other hand...

it looks like Branyan is not going back to Seattle.

by Andronicus on Jan 7, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Branyan is an option, no? I know he seems to be asking for two years, but his options appear to be rather limited

and if the Rangers land Vlad, isn’t Dye likely back in the picture? I know that all these guys (besides Thome) still want to play the field, but with teams getting smarter about not only defensive ability but also vulnerability to injury, I’m fairly certain that most of Dye, Vlad, Delgado and Branyan are going to have to eventually settle for mostly-DH-and-some-field roles (provided they’re not willing to play for $1-2 million).

On that same note, if the Sox refuse to upgrade their DH spot over ~$3 million, I’m going to be rather salty heading into the season.

by CWSKeith on Jan 7, 2010 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

yep

and since Branyan is a credible 1B, it allows KW to sell him to Ozzie as adding to team ‘flexibility’

by Andronicus on Jan 7, 2010 5:28 PM CST up reply actions  

We won't get that extra power hitter/ DH until mid-season

Kenny will likely try to pull off some big trade for someone like Adrian Gonzalez or Prince Fielder at or near the trade-deadline. That is if we’re not out of contention by then b/c of our weak lineup.

by Quickly 0 and 2 on Jan 7, 2010 6:56 PM CST up reply actions  

So punt the DH spot for 81 games?

I’ll just regurgitate larry’s point — seeing that the division has been decided by one-game playoffs each of the past two years, that seems like a really cogent plan.

by CWSKeith on Jan 7, 2010 7:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree that it's a stupid plan

But wait and see. This is exactly what they will do. We’re not adding any high impact players until mid-season by trade. The off-season additions are over. And I just don’t get it with this pitching staff. You’d think Kenny and company would really go for it. But their hope will be that the team can just hang in there until July 31, make that big move, and land in the post-season.

by Quickly 0 and 2 on Jan 7, 2010 8:36 PM CST up reply actions  

If they wait

I doubt it would be that long. I do really think KW wants to add one now but is trying to manage Guillen’s wishes. Hopefully the sweet talking KW is known for sometimes can come thru here to convince Ozzie it’s his idea. I still think Thome will prob be so cheap it becomes a no brainer. Especially if he talks about retiring as a White Sox. And yeah with the division as is its a stupid idea to wait.

"Oh well back to work"

by Tdogg on Jan 8, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Still not worried, Thome is the guy for the job.

And he’s still out there. Fuck flexibility, the guy took up a roster spot on an NL team last year, if the Dodgers can figure it out, I’d sure as hell hope Ozzie can figure it out when there is actually a position for the guy.

Having flexibility for the 10 or whatever NL DHless games we play a year is ridiculous. I’d much rather have a good lineup for 150 games. It’s just posturing to hold off on making a decision, when KW knows he can use Thome as a fallback.
Pierre, Beckham, Q, Thome, Konerko, Alexei, AJ, Rios, Teahen with our rotation and bullpen wins the AL Central. KW isn’t going to let Andruw Jones, Mark Kotsay or Ozzie ruin that for him. He may like his manager, but he likes winning a lot more.

by Grinder in Training on Jan 8, 2010 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

O n second thought....

I might give him 5 plus another 2-3 in incentives.. I think he’s got one last hurrah left….

by dantesox on Jan 8, 2010 8:43 AM CST up reply actions  

My fear is all the decent DH options sign elsewhere

Then the Twins swing a trade for Uggla to play 3B. Then Kenny goes out and does something stupid to try to match their move.

It’s going to be sad when the Sox lose the division to the Twins because KW and JR couldn’t find $4M to sign a DH

by joewho112 on Jan 7, 2010 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

.

logic's been dead
kenwo shoots from his hip and thinks with his gut.
by colintj on Dec 29, 2009 1:15 PM CST

by e-gus on Jan 7, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

This kid just is begging for a wedgie

or a swirlie. Or a colin-inspired fist.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Jan 7, 2010 8:57 PM CST up reply actions  

this is the kind of outside the box, the lights are on but larussa is behind the wheel sleeping thinking the sox could use.
Cardinals manager Tony La Russa is excited about Mark McGwire’s return to baseball as the team’s hitting coach and raised the bizarre possibility of putting the former slugger on the active roster for use as a pinch-hitter.

“If we’re in contention, we’ll put him on the roster Aug. 31. It’s a nice little dream,” said La Russa, adding that he expects McGwire — who dodged steroid questions before Congress and has been silent since accepting his new job with the Cardinals — to address the media soon.

“Is it likely?” La Russa said of the pinch-hitting scenario. “Probably not. I don’t think it’s a zero possibility. The point is, you’ll see him in spring training. He won’t be leaning on the batting cage chatting it up. He’ll work his (butt) off, and hitters will be thrilled he’s there helping them.”

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/01/la-russa-mcgwire-could-pinch-hit-for-cardinals.html

by larry on Jan 7, 2010 1:47 PM CST reply actions  

Genius.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Jan 7, 2010 8:51 PM CST up reply actions  

i like it.

we should do the same with the big hurt

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 7, 2010 8:59 PM CST up reply actions  

Whoosh.

Nice stepping on the joke, DB. ;)

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Jan 7, 2010 9:00 PM CST up reply actions  

a guillen-thomas clubhouse would be deep-fried awesome.

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jan 7, 2010 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Entirerly OT...

Just saw a TV promo for “The Doctors”, and the jackass MD hosting the show is wearing scrubs…. ON THE SET! Because keeping a sterile field in a TV STUDIO is really Fraking important… Maybe he is doing procedures during the commercial break.

He could be dressed up in any freaking costume- Spaceman, Godzilla, a Ghost… What a Putz.

There's Your Zagnut!!!

by DrEmilioLizardo on Jan 7, 2010 4:19 PM CST reply actions  

JJ?

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Jan 7, 2010 8:51 PM CST up reply actions  

fucker! my motherboard's maxed at 8GB

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jan 7, 2010 5:09 PM CST up reply actions  

You could comment on like, 5400 game threads with that power.

Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 7, 2010 6:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I have 8GB and I'm going to move up to 16GB this spring. To be honest in most things I don't notice a

difference between 4GB and 8GB. However when editing pictures and videos I do.

"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe

by Ahillock on Jan 7, 2010 6:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I get by with 375.

WoW looks a little dumpy and there are some rather important clipping issues (sometimes my toon’s head gets cropped, its creepy) but nothing else, really. Now, bandwidth… I would love it if someone would liven up all the damned dark fiber. FIBER TO YOUR DOOR!

grumble, grumble, FCC.

Google has bought a lot of it but they aren’t using it for anything, yet. Might be the backbone for something, phone network maybe?

by coffeepac on Jan 8, 2010 10:06 AM CST up reply actions  

Football is miles behind here

and i’m getting stuck in

what do you reckon to this crap?
’ Patrick Vieira’s value to Manchester City is a winning mentality ’ – we are way behind – but i’ve got stuck in on the blogs

by hoodlight on Jan 7, 2010 7:34 PM CST reply actions  

Oh, and the Yellow Rose of Texas is that color because

it has been sprinkled with urine. This kid Gilbert is some prize recruit! 24-6.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Jan 7, 2010 9:05 PM CST reply actions  

i wouldnt want to be playing against Alabama's defense

if I was Colt McCoy….let alone some 18 year old pissing down my leg……..again

Confucious say "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."

by fiskfan on Jan 7, 2010 10:02 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe you spoke too soon

24-21

We just need to execute better - Lovie Del Negro

by Illini0509 on Jan 7, 2010 10:39 PM CST up reply actions  

poor kid man

he’s only thrown 26 attempts prior to this game, which will be the biggest stage he sees over the next years. i don’t even want to imagine what McCoy’s feeling standing on the sideline all game….

bummer Texas, bummer

by Jack M on Jan 7, 2010 11:13 PM CST up reply actions  

well, apparently his arm is dead. that's got to hurt draft status.

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jan 7, 2010 11:14 PM CST up reply actions  

TEBOW TEBOW TEBOW

Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 8, 2010 10:26 AM CST up reply actions  

wow really?

I hadn’t heard that, was listening to the game on mute. Will definitely hurt his status.

by Jack M on Jan 8, 2010 8:40 AM CST up reply actions  

it's what he kept stupidly saying in his post-game interview on the field

“something something my arm is dead something something i can’t feel it, like i slept on it wrong and it’s asleep something something”

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jan 8, 2010 11:42 AM CST up reply actions  

any college football nostradomii care to predict the order of picks between mccoy / tebow / bradford / clausen?

if you want to get fancy, say round / position

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jan 8, 2010 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

clausen, bradford, tebow, mccoy

clausen-stl, bradford-was, tebow-jax, mccoy-somewhere in the 3rd round

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by trademaker on May 30, 2009 10:31 PM PDT

by U-God on Jan 8, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions  

i can see them taking jimmy anyways

they aren’t a particularly well run franchise and do need a quarterback badly. i see suh going second.

"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik

He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST

by U-God on Jan 8, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions  

My bold NFL prediction for the year:

The team that gets Suh (whoever it is) will make the playoffs next year.

by The Actual El Guapo on Jan 8, 2010 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

Pour one out this weekend for Jim Sulski

One of Columbia College’s finest

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by billyok on Jan 8, 2010 12:40 AM CST reply actions   2 recs

Goodbye everyone it's been fun

I’m moving to Royals Review or as I like to call it -where Sox players go to die Review. I’m a little scared and I’ll miss you guys except “larry”. At least G-E-T-Z GetzGetzGetz will be there to ease the awkwardness though his social views make me nervous to be around him.

Note to hsa: I left the money inside the musket

Signed,
scotty ballgame

Every good port begins with a slut.

- homesickalien

by Scotty Ballgame on Jan 8, 2010 9:13 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

come on scotty, you're better than that

settling for cheap inside jokes. Pods deserves a better funeral than that. Couldn’t you post a picture of a retarded kid or something?

by Shakey on Jan 8, 2010 9:37 AM CST up reply actions  

I can't upload the stool chart on my mobile

Every good port begins with a slut.

- homesickalien

by Scotty Ballgame on Jan 8, 2010 9:45 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

oh. noes!

So what’s the new name gonna be?

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Jan 8, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

I dont know

I figure I have until end of ST or else current name can transfer to Linebrink

I am open to suggestions

Every good port begins with a slut.

- homesickalien

by Scotty Ballgame on Jan 8, 2010 10:56 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

OK

how about larry’s missing soul?

Every good port begins with a slut.

- homesickalien

by Scotty Ballgame on Jan 8, 2010 11:04 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Simpson's did it

Is that like the forbidden donut….forbidden donut….mmm

Every good port begins with a slut.

- homesickalien

by Scotty Ballgame on Jan 8, 2010 1:39 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Royals Add Scotty Pods

Confucious say "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."

by fiskfan on Jan 8, 2010 9:45 AM CST reply actions  

I love Dayton Moore.

Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 8, 2010 10:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Who is sadder?

Brian Anderson as he once again is relegated to the bench or Royals fans as they now have Scott Podsednik as plan A in CF with Brian Anderson as their fourth outfielder.

I was going to ask how do you stick with the Royals as a fan.. but when you have no expectations of ever doing well, and you know you can’t win, the losing probably just isn’t that bad. Anyone past the age of like 12 knows in their heart of hearts their team has no chance of being successful. When you have no hope, I guess you can’t have any disappointment.

by Grinder in Training on Jan 8, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions  

There's some kind of strange link between Sox-Royals

We take their crappy relievers and they take our crappy hitters.

by jimmyjr on Jan 8, 2010 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Tabasco turned out just fine.

Who have we given them that’s been worth a tinker’s damn?

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Jan 8, 2010 2:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Nobody really

That’s what I was saying. A majority of the time we’re playing pass the trash.

On a side note, was Pods somehow a type A free agent? Or B at least? Do we get any picks out of this?

by jimmyjr on Jan 8, 2010 3:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Wouldn't have minded a Cubs uniform..

Could walk down the street and watch him play, and I’m sure he wouldn’t have helped their chances of being successful so that’d have been nice.

Wouldn’t want him in a Sox uniform, but he’s been nothing but good for the White Sox. Seems like a classy guy, I’ll be rooting for him to do well, especially as he plays for a team that has no chance of winning the division.

by Grinder in Training on Jan 8, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Most fun Royals games ever coming at you in 2010

Assuming any of these guys make it out of spring training

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by billyok on Jan 8, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

I Predict...

Gimpy will be on the DL for at least 30% of the season. I will take the Under.

There's Your Zagnut!!!

by DrEmilioLizardo on Jan 8, 2010 11:59 AM CST up reply actions  

0

Any time he looks like he’s about to do something amazing, the Royal-hating Ligues will take him out

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by billyok on Jan 8, 2010 12:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Haters!

;)

I am not your lady... I am not any kind of a lady! ~ Aldonza

by homesickalien on Jan 8, 2010 12:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I will miss e-gus' picture of him after getting picked off 3rd in Seattle.

“Dur”, IIRC.

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Jan 8, 2010 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey, speaking of that, when are we going to have an RIP memorial book

for BA, Pods, and the rest of the Royals gang?

"don tink about new jork. jus come in ready to wing de gay."

by winningugly on Jan 8, 2010 2:57 PM CST up reply actions  

not every player is deserving.

BA should have had one but i was busy then. oh well. the rest do not have that certain je ne sais quoi which merits remembrance.

by larry on Jan 8, 2010 7:53 PM CST up reply actions  

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