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"For a guy who doesn't even have a high school diploma, Harrelson is very smart." -- The story of the 1986 White Sox

A flashy General Manager, an unorthodox game plan, an aggressive press corps, unpopular owners, and a crumbling ballpark.  Heck, there was even a Joe Cowley.  How the drama of 1986 leaves 2010 in the dust.



  
    

Star-divide

In the offseason of 2009-2010, Kenny Williams tried to recapture the formula that led them to a World Series title four years before.  In a way, that was the challenge facing Jerry Reinsdorf and Eddie Einhorn at the end of 1985.  They wanted to reproduce the formula that led them to win the AL West in 1983.

1986 is known throughout the Sox Universe as "the year Hawk ran the ball club into the ground."  In hindsight, it's one of those classic blunders, like the uniforms with the shorts.  At the time, it was a baseball curiosity.

The Super Bowl bound Bears were on the cover of the January 20, 1986 Sports Illustrated.  But the big story was about Hawk.

Back in August, the Pale Hose were floundering. Their principal owners, Jerry Reinsdorf and Eddie Einhorn, felt a change was in order, so they consulted with their friend the Hawk. He thought about it, and prepared three sheets of paper for them. On the first sheet were the names of people he would hire and reassign if the White Sox wanted to make small changes. On the second sheet were the personnel he would recommend for a major overhaul. "He asked us if we wanted the conservative or the radical plan," says Einhorn. "Jerry's usually a little more conservative, but he and I agreed. We wanted the radical."

Which was:

He jettisoned most of the minor league coaches and managers and half the scouts. He brought in some of his favorite people. Alvin Dark, his former manager in both K.C. and Cleveland, is his minor league director. He lured scout Ellis Clary away from the Twins organization, for which Clary had worked for 40 years. Harrelson has just signed on the Big D (broadcasting partner Don Drysdale) as his pitching consultant.

In fact, Hawk had a coach for everyone:

The White Sox will have three pitching coaches on the major league level: Holdover Dave Duncan will handle the starters; the legendary Moe Drabowsky will tutor the relievers; and Drysdale will teach all of them chin-music appreciation. "Hell, we're going to have to bring in tackling dummies in spring training to stand up to our pitchers once Drysdale gets through with them," says Harrelson.

He wanted not only two full-time pitching coaches but also two full-time hitting coaches—one for the singles hitters and one for the power hitters. "Actually, we were planning one each for lefthanded singles hitters, lefthanded power hitters, righthanded singles hitters and righthanded power hitters," says manager Tony La Russa, who's been watching all these goings-on with a mixture of bemusement and admiration. For now, however, the White Sox will have only one hitting coach, Willie Horton.

Among the other people Harrelson has hired to coach are Dick Allen, Rico Petrocelli, Tom Haller, Bob Bailey, Dick Bosman, Chuck Hartenstein, Bob Bolin, Jose Cardenal, Buzz Capra, Doug Rader, Herman Franks and Jim Marshall. There are some dinosaurs (Herman Franks?) and certifiable loonies in there, but Harrelson swears by them.

SI portrayed Hawk as a flamboyant, freewheeling baseball character.  The horror stories didn't come out until September.

As Bob Verdi wrote in the Tribune:

Shortly after his appointment last October, Harrelson called a meeting of White Sox  administrative staffers, presumably to welcome them, introduce himself and so on. Instead, the Hawk warned of leaks and other disloyal acts, threatening even secretaries with dismissal. The troops, many of whom had nothing to do with the game`s inner workings, were shaken.

The "radical plan" didn't work.  People liked former GM Roland Hemond.  People also liked manager Tony LaRussa.  Tony, obviously, was not happy about losing his authority over baseball decisions.  Eventually, they reached a public "truce."  He was "fine" with putting Carlton Fisk in left field.  He was also fine with replacing Fisk behind the dish with Joel Skinner. 

The plan, as we know, didn't work.  By May 7th, the Sox were 7-18.  The "coaches" were banished to the minors in May.  But, the Hawk was already looking at Plan B.  Billy Martin.
Writers had a field day.  Even Mike Royko got in on the act:

"I say the Sox should hire Billy Martin. He`ll probably make the team play better. Even today`s millionaire ball players will be less likely to shirk their duties if they think that the manager might hit them on the head with a bourbon bottle.     And there`s something else. It`s never made sense to me that when there`s a full house in Comiskey Park, the manager and the players should be the only ones who could pass a breath test."

It was a public flirtation, that ended when Jerry Reinsdorf came to the conclusion that Billy's agent was a slimeball.  But Tony was hung out to dry.   Jerome Holtzman wondered why Hawk went public with the plan in the first place:

In tandem with club chairman Jerry Reinsdorf, Harrelson tipped his mitt and revealed they were in pursuit of Martin as a possible replacement for manager Tony LaRussa.     Five minutes with Martin`s agent was enough for Reinsdorf. Another headline read ``SOX NIX BILLY,`` with LaRussa, poor fellow, being described as ``twisting in the wind.``

Fortunately for Tony, the Sox went on a run, going 10-2 between May 7th and May 21st.  On May 11th, the college of coaches were reassigned.  As the Tribune reported:


LaRussa got his way Thursday when two Harrelson-hired coaches, hitting instructor Willie Horton and reliever coach Moe Drabowsky, were reassigned to unspecified duties within the organization.     Third-base coach Doug Rader will be the only hitting coach. Joe Nossek, who was working as an advance scout, will take over Rader`s duties at third. Art Kusyner will remain the bullpen coach, working with the relievers. Dave Duncan will be the sole pitching coach, although he will have some input from announcer Don Drysdale as a pitching consultant.

But the hot streak ended, and the team stumbled through the end of May and into June.  One June 20, Hawk told Tony it was time to go. 

Holtzman blamed Tony for being stubborn:

Once the Sox began cooling off, the internal struggle resumed. Harrelson fired Dave Dombrowski, his assistant, not because of ``a difference in philosophy`` as reported, but because Dombrowski--who had been hired by Hemond --had refused to budge from LaRussa`s camp. Later, pitching coach Dave Duncan, another LaRussa man, criticized the front office for allowing a news leak that Tom Seaver might be traded to the Yankees. Duncan wasn`t aiming for Reinsdorf and Einhorn; Harrelson was his target.     LaRussa had more than ample opportunity to close the breach. Why he refused is anybody`s guess. Perhaps he had the notion that he was more than a field manager, that he was Harrelson`s equal, a co-general manager. Or he was convinced, win or lose, the Hawk eventually would dump him. Whatever, LaRussa will have to face the facts of life. At his next stop and the stop after that, he will have a boss. Unless he buys the club.

The Sox pulled the pin, officially, on July 31st.  Ron Kittle, Wayne Tolleson, and Joel Skinner went to New York for Carlos Martinez.  Bobby Bonilla was traded to Pittsburgh for Jose DeLeon (when Pirates manager Jim Leyland told DeLeon that he needed to learn how to pitch inside, he said "I've been traded to Houston?").   Tom Seaver finally got his wish, and was traded to Boston for Steve Lyons. 

Hawk resigned in late September.  The obituaries weren't kind.  Jerome Holtzman delivered a backhanded compliment:

Ken Harrelson isn`t a hawk. He is--or was--a babe, a naive man-child with an uncontrollable urge to tell the truth. Unable to keep his plans secret, he was constantly telegraphing his next move. Eager for news, sportswriters made the next edition with Harrelson`s proposals and predictions of impending events. If the deal fizzled they had another story knocking Harrelson for failing to deliver.

Bob Verdi described a GM whose desk was covered in cartons of cigarettes:

As Harrelson talked Friday, a storm raged outside Comiskey Park, and the lights flickered in his office. What a fitting conclusion to his reign as executive vice president-baseball operations for the White Sox. It was as tumultuous as it was brief, and, what`s most galling to those searching for some order out of the disorder, an immediate report card is not forthcoming. Harrelson did take a swing at grading himself, moments after he announced his resignation. The Hawk gave the Hawk high marks in baseball, but a D-minus in diplomacy.     There can be little doubt about the latter, and it`s only another curious twist in Chicago`s twilight zone of a summer that a man so championed as a people person failed in elementary communications.

The Hawk who inhabited the front office was the same as the Hawk who lives in the broadcast booth.  That July, the Tribune reported he was not happy about next year's schedule:

They had asked to be play their first-week games in a warmer city or in Seattle or Minneapolis, both of which have domed stadiums.     ``It`s not for sure yet,`` said operations chief Ken Harrelson. ``We have some complaining left to do. The league knows how I feel about it. It stinks. We`re going to complain hard.``The Sox froze through April at home and on the East Coast this year. They didn`t get to play in the domes until mid-June, when a roof was not needed.     The cold weather definitely had an effect on the hitters. ``It makes it harder to get your timing down,`` Harrelson said. ``You never get a chance to get started.``

The drama of '86 didn't end when Hawk resigned.  Two months later, the people of Addison had to vote on whether they wanted a new Comiskey Park in their town.  (I did a story about the referendum this week.  Listen here).  Once that was rejected, the ballpark fight began. 

So the next time you read about Kenny Williams making some boneheaded baseball move, it could always be worse.

It could be Kenny Harrelson.

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Thanks for giving me flashbacks.

I have to call my therapist now.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 23, 2010 5:10 PM CDT reply actions  

i was a 6 year old at the time

ron kittle was my baseball hero. when he got traded it slapped the innocence right out of the game for me. that hurt. i remember crying about it when my dad told me.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 23, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

why don't you two just meet at the hospital instead?

loser stays.

i swear to god i had a dream last night that manny was traded to the sox
i woke up thinking it was true. so i had to check the internet, this could be another one of my premonitions so sit tight ;D
by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 19, 2010 5:14 PM CDT

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 25, 2010 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

i had a similar response with jack mcdowell

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Oct 23, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Frank Thomas

but that wasnt too long ago. It wasnt like I was in elementary school

4 hours 5 minutes? Is that all? Buehrle coulda pitched three CGs and the bottom of the 14th in Houston by then. FTMFYITA! - RWShow

by blackoutsox on Oct 23, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

HEY THAT F WORD IS OFFENSIVE TO ME.

i swear to god i had a dream last night that manny was traded to the sox
i woke up thinking it was true. so i had to check the internet, this could be another one of my premonitions so sit tight ;D
by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 19, 2010 5:14 PM CDT

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 25, 2010 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Are you offended because you're a homosexual, or a cigarette?

"In Minnesota, you're gonna see everybody runnin' with a man…" - Troy Aikman

by RWShow on Oct 26, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very well done

As a follow up piece I think you should educate SSS on the genius of Hawk’s successor, Larry Himes. He cleaned up Hawk’s mess and created a beast of a team on a constrained budget.

"We are strong enough as we are and everything fits together in such a way that the only thing we were going to add would be something of an impact guy," KW

by ChicagoPete on Oct 23, 2010 7:00 PM CDT reply actions  

A couple of things in Hawk's favor

He inherited a mediocre team that regressed.

The only infielder who had any pop was Greg Walker. Three spots in your lineup are being taken up by Ozzie Guillen, Julio Cruz, and Tim Hulett?

Bobby Bonilla had promise. John Cangleosi didn’t deserve the job. Harold was Harold. Ron Kittle was the 80’s version of Carlos Quentin. Except he was too laid back.

He did get credit for building a better pitching staff as the year went on.

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Oct 23, 2010 7:33 PM CDT reply actions  

No kidding

It’s an insult to Carlos Quentin, he’s a gold glover with Frank Thomas’s plate discipline in comparison.

"We are strong enough as we are and everything fits together in such a way that the only thing we were going to add would be something of an impact guy," KW

by ChicagoPete on Oct 23, 2010 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Quentin-Kittle comparison works thusly

Came out of nowhere to impress in a playoff year (AL ROY in ‘83, MVP candidate in ’08), who didn’t come close to replicating that performance.

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Oct 23, 2010 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well done man! Thank you for this.

"Kotsay should get the Golden Goebbels" by 67WMAQ

by Rhubarb on Oct 23, 2010 10:56 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks, 67. The difference between the and today is

Back then we HAD to read the papers, now we don’t.
Anyway, nice recap of a tumutuous season.

"I have discovered in 20 years of moving around a ballpark, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. "
Bill Veeck

by Chiburb on Oct 24, 2010 5:30 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Did you mean "tumescent"?

Perv.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 24, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mobile posting is an L of a thing.

"I have discovered in 20 years of moving around a ballpark, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. "
Bill Veeck

by Chiburb on Oct 24, 2010 6:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

This was before my time. I was 3. But it was an interesting read nonetheless.

"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
"Well, at least if she's disappointed on the wedding night you can tell her "Wait till next year!" - South Side Expat

by Shoeless In SC on Oct 24, 2010 6:30 PM CDT reply actions  

I still can't believe this man draws a paycheck from the Sox after 1986

A terrible year, one that seemed worse after Dombrowski built a solid team in Montreal. Harrelson’s opinions about baseball have been impossible to take seriously since he put Fisk in left field.

by asinwreck on Oct 24, 2010 6:57 PM CDT reply actions  

fisk in left field?

4 hours 5 minutes? Is that all? Buehrle coulda pitched three CGs and the bottom of the 14th in Houston by then. FTMFYITA! - RWShow

by blackoutsox on Oct 24, 2010 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

fisk would have to be a really really terrible catcher for that to make sense

unless they were playing a below replacement left fielder for some reason. which itself would be better resolved by just adding a replacement level LF.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Oct 24, 2010 8:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hee.

+1 mobil-wise.

"I have discovered in 20 years of moving around a ballpark, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. "
Bill Veeck

by Chiburb on Oct 25, 2010 6:07 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

"Once you label me, you negate me"

"Kotsay should get the Golden Goebbels" by 67WMAQ

by Rhubarb on Oct 25, 2010 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

craig

Running away with 2010 SSS ROY

by 3E8 on Oct 25, 2010 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

dude wtf

this is so funny.

Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."

Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."

by Tdogg on Oct 25, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

i caught Sherlock

it was excellent. wouldn’t have changed much if anything, especially not holmes and watson. though apparently the PBS version cut some 5 minutes out of the BBC version, presumably to get it down to an hour and a half precisely. either way, looking forward to the next two. have they lined up a second series? seems like you could go a decent number of eps given the source material.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Oct 25, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

glad you enjoyed it.

and yes, they have got a second series lined up.
same deal though – three 90-minute episodes – which seems like too little. one of the main writers is the head guy on doctor who, so i guess he is busy. taking that into account, along with cumberbatch (fantastic name) off doing some spielberg film and freeman being cast as bilbo baggins in the hobbit, i suppose we ought to be grateful for whatever we get.

by craigws on Oct 25, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've got it set to record this afternoon. Looking forward to it.

"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb

by South Side Expat on Oct 25, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

well that's excellent

i wonder how many eps they’re after in the long term

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Oct 25, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

like you say, there is a wealth of source material to mine.

i seem to recall they make use of three or four of the short stories in the third episode. they’d mentioned the word ‘hound’ for the second series, which would be good fun.
i have seen interviews with both actors speaking about how pleased they were with the critical response and that they were happy to do more as long as the quality of the scripts stays the same.

by craigws on Oct 25, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never got into Dr. Who

But some time ago while looking for good places to eat in London I stumbled across this gem of a food blog, written by one of the Dr. Who staff, Egg Bacon Chips and Beans.

He has devoted years to chronicling every nasty little diner in Great Britain, he’s got quite the absurd sense of humour.

"We are strong enough as we are and everything fits together in such a way that the only thing we were going to add would be something of an impact guy," KW

by ChicagoPete on Oct 25, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I always thought "Base on Balls" was the gayest stat in baseball.

"In Minnesota, you're gonna see everybody runnin' with a man…" - Troy Aikman

by RWShow on Oct 25, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Had to swoop in and top my joke, didn't ya.

Go green, ya bastid!

"In Minnesota, you're gonna see everybody runnin' with a man…" - Troy Aikman

by RWShow on Oct 25, 2010 10:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

scored on a passed ball

"Statistics are about as interesting as first base coaches" Jim Bouton

by Grinder Rule #42 on Oct 26, 2010 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Let's get drunk on Jack, and beat the shit out of some Tea Partiers!!

NOT!!!! No, let’s listen to some Phillip Glass while drinking a fine Pinot Noir, oh wait, it’s tuna, make it a Chardonnay, and express our distaste with signs depicting Obama as a witch doctor. I have to do spell check, first.

by TasteeFreeze on Oct 25, 2010 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

us liberal pussies help pay your unemployment checks.

;)

i swear to god i had a dream last night that manny was traded to the sox
i woke up thinking it was true. so i had to check the internet, this could be another one of my premonitions so sit tight ;D
by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 19, 2010 5:14 PM CDT

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 25, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Goof a** sh*t"

makes me think of Goofy taking a dump. He is a dog- does he use a toilet? The yard?

My god, those deposits must be huge too!

".... and in closing, lick. my. balls." - U God

by DrEmilioLizardo on Oct 26, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's also talks to and is friends with a Mouse, a whore-Mouse,

a Duck with a speech impediment and has relatives. I don’t think ‘waste management’ was high on Walt’s list of character development. He was too busy hating Jews/blacks.

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Oct 26, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

He was too busy making money of his shitty commercial art.

FunFact!: After a nervous breakdown at Age 30, Walt Disney tured to model trains for comfort

"Kotsay should get the Golden Goebbels" by 67WMAQ

by Rhubarb on Oct 26, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

i am unimpressed by what disney is now,

but i’ll happily defend most of it up to the 60’s.
donald duck is perhaps my favourite fictional sociopath.

by craigws on Oct 26, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

toy story is good, and i enjoy monsters inc

but there isn’t enough in the way of pointless deaths (bambi) or completely fucked up pink elephants (dumbo).
disney was better when they weren’t afraid to put scary stuff in, i.e. fantasia.

by craigws on Oct 26, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

i miss the days of the sociopathic cartoon animals

Will Freddy Garcia accept my invitation to the Sybaris? -KenWo4life

by e-gus on Oct 26, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I blame Barney.

".... and in closing, lick. my. balls." - U God

by DrEmilioLizardo on Oct 26, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

the reasoning given at the time

was:
1. find a place for joel skinner, who sadly was their top prospect, and
2. extend fisk’s career

after a month, plan was cancelled. not that big a deal.

by Hatchetm on Oct 25, 2010 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck it. Put AJ in right field next year.

Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."

Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."

by Tdogg on Oct 25, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually at the time it was a big deal

Fisk was not happy, and it set the tone for the whole Hawk regime.

by csd7227 on Oct 28, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is excellent stuff, thank you for it.

"In Minnesota, you're gonna see everybody runnin' with a man…" - Troy Aikman

by RWShow on Oct 24, 2010 8:41 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't want to speak for alleged blogger Sox Machine

But he’s taking a look at the baseball side of ’86.

From a baseball perspective, Hawk wasn’t that bad. He probably would have gotten better over time.

From a “managing humans” perspective, he wasn’t that good.

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Oct 25, 2010 9:59 AM CDT reply actions  

Excellent post

I can’t tell you what we did on any of my wedding anniversaries, but I vividly remember sitting on my Huffy at the entrance to Fieldcrest park and getting really pissed off when my friend told me that Kittle was traded for Ron Hassey. Funny what my brain deems important.

by dtv on Oct 25, 2010 10:41 AM CDT reply actions  

This is great stuff

For my money, Hawk’s biggest sin as GM was the PR disaster he was. That whole Billy Martin/Tony Larussa saga is just completely ridiculous.

Also trading Bobby Bonilla was a pretty bad idea. I would’ve liked to seen him batting after Frank and before Ventura for a couple seasons.

FifthFeather.com

by El Duque's Raft on Oct 25, 2010 11:07 AM CDT reply actions  

thanx maq

great post

"Statistics are about as interesting as first base coaches" Jim Bouton

by Grinder Rule #42 on Oct 25, 2010 11:17 AM CDT reply actions  

What- no pictures?

".... and in closing, lick. my. balls." - U God

by DrEmilioLizardo on Oct 25, 2010 1:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Hey DrEm-

Check this out if you haven’t already. Great little podcasts-
BBC History of the world in 100 objects

"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb

by South Side Expat on Oct 25, 2010 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

added to the list!

".... and in closing, lick. my. balls." - U God

by DrEmilioLizardo on Oct 26, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Here you go!

"Kotsay should get the Golden Goebbels" by 67WMAQ

by Rhubarb on Oct 25, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

for whatever reason,

my eyes always seem to focus on the ‘ogre’ part of progress.

by craigws on Oct 25, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whenever I see "liberal"

all I can discern is “libel”. So I understand.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Oct 25, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ever since it was pointed out, I can only focus on the "31"

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Oct 25, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

as u-god's emu knows all too well;

once something is seen, it cannot be unseen.

by craigws on Oct 25, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am sure it has nothing to do with the underlining weblink.

Go on about your business, and pay no attention to the man behind the curtain.

".... and in closing, lick. my. balls." - U God

by DrEmilioLizardo on Oct 26, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

i dont think this is what 'bad religion' meant, when they sung "progress".

i swear to god i had a dream last night that manny was traded to the sox
i woke up thinking it was true. so i had to check the internet, this could be another one of my premonitions so sit tight ;D
by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 19, 2010 5:14 PM CDT

by Where Triples Go to Die on Oct 25, 2010 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

This was a great read, 67, thank you!

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Oct 25, 2010 9:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks for the effort,

nice piece!

Hope he’s not writing the 2011 White Sox Anal too. -Sox Machine

by Jack M on Oct 26, 2010 8:14 AM CDT reply actions  

Happy 5th Anniversary everyone!

5 years ago today, our glorious boys brought home the WS trophy.

God Bless em, each and every one.

".... and in closing, lick. my. balls." - U God

by DrEmilioLizardo on Oct 26, 2010 9:33 AM CDT reply actions  

You got your World Series

Now fuck off.

Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."

Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."

by Tdogg on Oct 26, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

and in closing...

".... and in closing, lick. my. balls." - U God

by DrEmilioLizardo on Oct 26, 2010 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

The White Sox have been fairly consistent when it comes to raising ticket prices. Win or loss, there will be a small increase each year.

Season-ticket holders received their invoices last week. The increases vary depending on your plan.

I have a friend who has lower-deck seats between the bases for 81 games. He said his seats went up 2.5%, or an average increase of $1.11 per game.

Another friend with a 27-game plan said the increase for his seats was 5%. That’s due in part to the number of higher-priced premium games (Cubs, Yankees, Twins, etc.) in the package.

Brooks Boyer, vice-president and chief marketing officer for the Sox, said: “Our pricing philosophy is the same as it has been for the last several years. No signficiant jumps, just small incremental increases ($1 or $2) each in season and individual game ticket prices.”

Mr. Boyer then added: “Our season-ticket holders/fans are accustomed to this policy.”

Upon hearing that comment, my friend replied, “I don’t mind the increase as long as they’ll guarantee the team will improve by 5% next year.”

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by larry on Oct 26, 2010 10:07 AM CDT reply actions  

if they stick to that after a deep playoff run

then its fine

4 hours 5 minutes? Is that all? Buehrle coulda pitched three CGs and the bottom of the 14th in Houston by then. FTMFYITA! - RWShow

by blackoutsox on Oct 26, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

OMG- had a work discussion on that film.

The. Most. Disturbing. Trailer. Ever. I just cant watch the film, and I thought I could watch anything.

All I have to say, is- Segment A, or nothing!

".... and in closing, lick. my. balls." - U God

by DrEmilioLizardo on Oct 26, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also if you are wondering if they actually show the surgery...the answer is yes

most of the scewnes could have been but by atleast 2-5 minutes. The movie should really only be an hour long.

"Kotsay should get the Golden Goebbels" by 67WMAQ

by Rhubarb on Oct 26, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

fuck cut not but

"Kotsay should get the Golden Goebbels" by 67WMAQ

by Rhubarb on Oct 26, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

its not even scary

its just gross

4 hours 5 minutes? Is that all? Buehrle coulda pitched three CGs and the bottom of the 14th in Houston by then. FTMFYITA! - RWShow

by blackoutsox on Oct 26, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its not even gross

its stupid…regardless there are two types of people in this world, those that have seen it and those that haven’t

"Kotsay should get the Golden Goebbels" by 67WMAQ

by Rhubarb on Oct 26, 2010 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

put me in the will never

4 hours 5 minutes? Is that all? Buehrle coulda pitched three CGs and the bottom of the 14th in Houston by then. FTMFYITA! - RWShow

by blackoutsox on Oct 26, 2010 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the excellent article . . . .

I was in Europe in 1986 until late August, and missed just about all of that baseball season. Now I know why I came home to such a sucky team.

My father-in-law, who lives in Appleton, WI, and worked on the grounds crew at Goodland Field in his retirement for the Appleton Foxes (class A team for the Sox back from the mid-1960s to 1986), never forgave Harrelson, blaming him for the change in the Foxes’ affiliation. He said that there were all kinds of management problems during the year of Harrelson. My cousin, who lives in Glens Falls, NY, about three blocks from the old AA stadium, and whose father-in-law used to sit in the stands with Drombowski and give him scouting advice, tells a similar tale.

by VAChisox on Oct 29, 2010 5:02 AM CDT reply actions  

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