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Testing. Testing...

Huh, seems to be working.  

Apparently I have not been overthrown and replaced by Kenwo (quite yet).  Though I'm still uncertain what is going on around here.  It's amazing really.  For the first time in years, I'm considerably removed from the site for a couple weeks because of some gnarly stuff happening at work; and I log in to discover massive shifts of power, seemingly grumpier and certainly older pieces of sh!t, polls that don't have Jerry Owens as an option, people rec'ing comments by ChangesMadePost-ASB...  too many horrors to even mention.  In the words of the great and wise Towelie, I have no idea what's going on.

And I don't know about you hot-blooded football-lovin' types, but to fight off my usual offseason sadness, I've been enjoying archived Sox games since the season ended.  Between baseball-reference helping me to recall the dates of great games, and MLBTV allowing me to pull up any game from the past few years, I'm having a helluva time kicking back with some oldies but goodies.  

Even with the classic games that you can still feel in your gut for certain magical moments, there are so many cool little things that your (or at least my) mind has forgotten over the years.  The neato bandito non-highlights, if you will.  I recently watched game 162 of the 2008 season, and had forgotten just how dramatic was the lead-up to Alexei's slam... being behind 2-1 when the Sox' 6th inning started, then tying it at 2 and loading the bases for the skinny Cuban rookie.  Sweaty Freddy lights-out for the Tigers before the (also) imperfect reliever Galarraga began blowing it for Detroit.  Inge's bare white arms before the devastating ink attack (dude was still HELLA fugly of course).  And a big and hairy Floyd throwing eight strikeouts over his six innings of work - with a particularly memorable 11-pitch Granderson strikeout with runners on first and third in the 5th. 

Anyway, if you're an MLBTV subscriber and in the mood, I recommend pulling up the ol' archives and strapping it down on a cold day this offseason.  Makes me all warm and tingly.  And if anyone recalls some great games from the past three years - the regular games, not the 163's or the Perfecto's for example, please leave a suggestion in the comments!   Unrelated, I wish those celebrating tomorrow, an enjoyable and restful Thanksgiving.  I am accepting turkey donations.  

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i am confused by the placement of the cubs next to all the world series dvds.

i can see it has nearly toppled from the shock, but i would have thought it’d combust due to high quantities of anachronism.

by craigws on Nov 24, 2010 8:14 PM CST reply actions  

Could've titled it "Testy, testy" as well.

Welcome back, kid. Don’t be a stranger. And please get your father Baker-acted soon.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Nov 24, 2010 8:16 PM CST reply actions  

Testes testes

1…2….3???

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Nov 25, 2010 2:35 AM CST up reply actions  

How about the Thome 500th homer game against the Dodgers?

I stood up and screamed when he hit it…in the middle of a birthday party.

by Fergie3108 on Nov 24, 2010 9:28 PM CST reply actions  

And the back-to-back-to-back game as well. That was impressive, too

I almost want to go back and watch some of 2007 over again for comedic value. With a bottle of Gran Marnier, of course. Wouldn’t want to remember it later, after all.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Nov 24, 2010 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

You need some Four Loko for 2007.

"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb

by South Side Expat on Nov 24, 2010 9:43 PM CST up reply actions  

That would certainly make me forget about it.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Nov 24, 2010 9:44 PM CST up reply actions  

was there as well

laughed so hard when toby hall tried to go yard

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Nov 25, 2010 9:51 AM CST up reply actions  

The game with the throwback uni's?

Wasn’t that an interleague game against the Dodgers? Walk-off homer by Thome in extra innings, I believe.

by Fergie3108 on Nov 24, 2010 11:21 PM CST up reply actions  

You're right KenWo.

It wasn’t his 500th. Can someone remind me why the home run I was thinking about was so important. Did he pass someone or something?

by Fergie3108 on Nov 24, 2010 11:23 PM CST up reply actions  

i still don't know what home run you are thinking about.

thome never hit a home run against the dodgers while he was on the sox. are you thinking of the game winning home run that pierzynski hit against the dodgers in 2005 when the sox were down 3-1 in the 9th and won 5-3?

i am a bark for buffeting. i am a hound for thornypaws. i am a doe for swiftness. i am a tree for wind-siege. i am a windmill. i am a hole in a wall.

by BuehrleMan on Nov 24, 2010 11:40 PM CST up reply actions  

same

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Nov 25, 2010 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

And extra points for the ex-Cub factor that gave AJ another swing.

Remember?

Intoxicated with the wine of cloaking powers and the gin of banning authority since 2005.

by Chiburb on Nov 25, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

Nobody remembers or nobody cares?

Intoxicated with the wine of cloaking powers and the gin of banning authority since 2005.

by Chiburb on Nov 25, 2010 5:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I was there

Never gonna forget that one. Got my Jim Thome bobblehead that day too.

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Nov 25, 2010 8:46 AM CST up reply actions  

You broke the site!

Needs more testing.

"Even when he finally screws her, he’s wearing the watermelon rind as a hat."

by Uribe Down on Nov 24, 2010 9:41 PM CST reply actions  

There was also a game in 2005 where Dye was subbed in at SS for 1/3 of an inning...

Can’t find the game though. I’m sure there was some reason behind it. I think there was some ejection… can’t recall.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Nov 24, 2010 9:43 PM CST reply actions  

Right on. Found it

http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/OAK/OAK200504270.shtml

“Jermaine Dye moves from RF to SS
Timo Perez replaces Joe Crede (SS) playing RF batting 9th”

I don’t remember why this happened. I only recall that my roommate was going nuts laughing.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Nov 24, 2010 9:54 PM CST up reply actions  

crede got the boot.

he was playing short… i think uribe, iguchi and ozuna were all hurt….. widger was at third…. they called up a guy named pedro munoz? or pedro lopez? i dont know… but i think he got a big hit or 2 for the sox.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 24, 2010 10:08 PM CST up reply actions  

hunter wendelstedt ejected crede. (crede was at short due to multiple injuries to other sox)

after crede got hit by a pitch, wendelstedt wouldn’t give him first base because he said crede let himself get hit intentionally. crede was pissed but got back in the box and subsequently popped out, then slammed his bat into the ground and got tossed.
fuck hunter wendelstedt.

i am a bark for buffeting. i am a hound for thornypaws. i am a doe for swiftness. i am a tree for wind-siege. i am a windmill. i am a hole in a wall.

by BuehrleMan on Nov 24, 2010 10:08 PM CST up reply actions  

No shit? lol... oh man. I thought an ejection had something to do with it

I want to watch that game again, dammit. It should be on the 2005 championship highlights DVD

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Nov 24, 2010 10:27 PM CST up reply actions  

is 2006 too early?

because a really awesome game was Frank’s first game as a visitor at the Cell….

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 24, 2010 9:48 PM CST up reply actions  

merci

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Nov 24, 2010 9:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Ahhhh... that's a shame.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Nov 24, 2010 10:00 PM CST up reply actions  

i don't want to take over for you

but i think my posting resume speaks for itself. i deserve a piece of the SSS pie.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 24, 2010 9:45 PM CST reply actions  

x

"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb

by South Side Expat on Nov 24, 2010 9:57 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Is that mess from the pie, or did he just pop that massive zit on his forehead?

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Nov 24, 2010 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

zing

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Nov 24, 2010 10:41 PM CST up reply actions  

whoa dude

I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR MY BEHAVIOR!! I DAYDREAM WITH THE BEST OF THEM.......

by pierzynskirules on Nov 24, 2010 10:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Just for clarity, this was made half in jest.

It would benefit from proper inflection,which is hard to communicate through a keyboard…

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Nov 29, 2010 3:25 PM CST up reply actions  

along with many many other things...

i am thankful for larry having called me out leading to me finding this site. although a certain few members and I butt heads a lot…. there isn’t a finer site on the net to talk about the sox all year long as this one… have a happy thanksgiving….. and tdogg and colin go choke on a turkey bone you bastards. :)

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 24, 2010 10:16 PM CST reply actions  

What are you talking about?
i am thankful for larry having called me out leading to me finding this site.

I don’t remember your arrival really. Only that one day I was on here and you weren’t here, and one day you were.

Since we’re all reminiscing anyway.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Nov 24, 2010 10:29 PM CST up reply actions  

From the now classic series...

http://www.southsidesox.com/2008/7/18/574154/kw-lives

and

http://www.southsidesox.com/2008/7/10/568689/kw-daily

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Nov 24, 2010 11:54 PM CST up reply actions  

So many gems in there. A good re-read while stuck on this stupid train.

"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb

by South Side Expat on Nov 25, 2010 12:30 AM CST up reply actions  

good, but how the hell did that turn into an offshore drilling debate?

4 hours 5 minutes? Is that all? Buehrle coulda pitched three CGs and the bottom of the 14th in Houston by then. FTMFYITA! - RWShow

by blackoutsox on Nov 25, 2010 12:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh man oh man. I was on vacation that summer. Totally missed all that.

That is some good shit.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Nov 25, 2010 9:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Wow.
He is out of a job now because he stunk. He should have been out of a job when we had him if he slept with my mom wife and sister or not!

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Nov 25, 2010 9:03 AM CST up reply actions  

hehe
Kenwo doesn’t believe in comma’s

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Nov 25, 2010 9:04 AM CST up reply actions  

But he does believe in improper apostrophe use!

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Nov 25, 2010 10:46 PM CST up reply actions  

i just reread it....

and my comments on uribe were right on. so you all can blow me yet again!

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 25, 2010 11:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Who blew you the first time?

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Nov 25, 2010 11:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Ken's very flexible.

To say goodbye to all our company? - Chiburb on Nov 23, 2010 3:13 PM CST
fial. to mick - Chiburb on Nov 23, 2010 3:13 PM CST
jeez. - Chiburb on Nov 23, 2010 3:14 PM CST
fuck - Chiburb on Nov 23, 2010 3:14 PM CST

by RWShow on Nov 25, 2010 9:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I remember that day.

The first day of the retirement process of The Cheat. I link those two events. I can prove it if I must.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Nov 25, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions  

the cheat is a closet kenwo fan.

just like the rest of you are…..

and i like the comment that you made about tearing me up in 5 minutes! 3 years later asshole…. still here bringing the ratings. lol

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 25, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Consistently consistent.

I typically appreciate his commentary. He speaks for a lot of the non-stat head, eye test guys on here.

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Nov 25, 2010 10:48 PM CST up reply actions  

I whole heartedly agree,

this site is by far the most interesting Sox read on the net…though at times not all that informative, it never fails to entertain.

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Nov 24, 2010 10:44 PM CST up reply actions  

bingo

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Nov 25, 2010 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

what are you talking about?

i’ve learn all kinds of shit in my brief time here.
90% of it i didn’t really wanna know, but i’ve learnt about it nonetheless.

by craigws on Nov 25, 2010 12:38 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

WU! I lift this fine Rolling Rock in your honor this Thanksgiving day.

The Elders Have Spoken!

".... and in closing, lick. my. balls." - U God

by DrEmilioLizardo on Nov 25, 2010 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

I wholeheartedly disagree with all three of these statements,

but hey its thanksgiving…have a good one!

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Nov 25, 2010 2:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Awesome.

To say goodbye to all our company? - Chiburb on Nov 23, 2010 3:13 PM CST
fial. to mick - Chiburb on Nov 23, 2010 3:13 PM CST
jeez. - Chiburb on Nov 23, 2010 3:14 PM CST
fuck - Chiburb on Nov 23, 2010 3:14 PM CST

by RWShow on Nov 25, 2010 9:09 PM CST up reply actions  

You'll always have my typing to kick around, mick.

Without me, you have no SSS career. Chick pictures? Please.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Nov 26, 2010 7:34 AM CST up reply actions  

sss career? you are priceless!

If is is one handed shitting. by winningugly

by mick10 on Nov 26, 2010 9:29 AM CST up reply actions  

even the third one?

you reckon some nazis made it to heaven then? expecting to meet hitler there? seemed quite a nice guy besides the intolerance. vegetarian, painter, interest in classical history and mythology. a real renaissance man.

by craigws on Nov 25, 2010 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

seriously, can we put to rest the whole, "Jesus was not a homosexual" thing?"

Either Jesus was fucking the shit out of Mary Magdalane, or he was an “other”. The guy was 33 and not married, which was pretty way out there in the religion he practiced.

If Christians want to quote the jewish bible, then they have to answer for the inconsistencies. Jesus was either eating pussy by the acre, sucking dicks by the furlong, or he was so androgenous, he made Morissey look like Ron Jeremy. Which was it, “God Hates Fags”, jagoffs?

by TasteeFreeze on Nov 26, 2010 2:06 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

I don't think you can fully apply normal human motives

to a diety. If you deny his godliness, sure, you can have that discussion, but a believer is not going to deny that godliness and will never have that discussion.

by coffeepac on Nov 26, 2010 9:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Much like Saul, who violently persecuted the members of the nascent christian faith before his conversion...

I await the day that we hear from 2nd Half that you have woken up in a bathhouse in boystown with your lips bruised and swollen and your face glazed, crying “I have seen the light!!”

".... and in closing, lick. my. balls." - U God

by DrEmilioLizardo on Nov 25, 2010 10:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Saul persecuted Jews. His story was, like, the 7th in the bible

Saul probably gave great blowjobs.

Seriously – the way religion works, Abraham could have blown goats, but as long as he tried to kill his son, he was okay. Much like Gacy.

by TasteeFreeze on Nov 26, 2010 2:09 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Not to quibble... but:
For you have heard of my previous way of life in Judaism, how intensely I persecuted the church of God and tried to destroy it. I was advancing in Judaism beyond many Jews of my own age and was extremely zealous for the traditions of my fathers.

– Galatians 1:13-14

Saul was a jew himself- one of the pharisees, and had a hard-on for the followers of christ, prior to his conversion and adoption of the name Paul, later St. Paul.

".... and in closing, lick. my. balls." - U God

by DrEmilioLizardo on Nov 26, 2010 7:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Mercy.

TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.

by Ozzie Montana on Nov 25, 2010 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

Fighting intolerance one green comment at a time.

"Even when he finally screws her, he’s wearing the watermelon rind as a hat."

by Uribe Down on Nov 25, 2010 11:38 PM CST up reply actions  

KenWo = Sentiments

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Nov 24, 2010 10:58 PM CST up reply actions  

People eat that shit up!

heh

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Nov 25, 2010 4:37 PM CST up reply actions  

Paulie and JD back to back 300 career home runs

4 hours 5 minutes? Is that all? Buehrle coulda pitched three CGs and the bottom of the 14th in Houston by then. FTMFYITA! - RWShow

by blackoutsox on Nov 24, 2010 11:14 PM CST reply actions  

I managed to get one of those posters.

That and the PG are the only good things to come out of ’09, haha.

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Nov 25, 2010 11:04 PM CST up reply actions  

welcome back

congrats on the 40 days

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Nov 25, 2010 10:02 AM CST up reply actions  

May 21st, 2010

Just because I have no recollection of what happened on the field

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Nov 25, 2010 1:33 AM CST via mobile reply actions  

One of the great sox games of all time.....

Hawk’s call of the famous buck shot to the savior’s balls.

If is is one handed shitting. by winningugly

by mick10 on Nov 25, 2010 4:27 AM CST reply actions  

Happy Thanksgiving Sox fans

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Nov 25, 2010 10:02 AM CST reply actions  

So where is my personal Indian to cook a meal for me?

(I’m looking at you, OM. :))

Happy Thanksgiving, all.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Nov 25, 2010 12:00 PM CST reply actions  

Fly on over for some jerk turkey, unfortunately the lamb kebabs are all gone.

TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.

by Ozzie Montana on Nov 25, 2010 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Teahenny, thanks for posting this.

I feel the same way. I am not a regular, but I do like to keep up on White Sox happenings, and appreciate the ecclectia that comes up here, be it Indian restaurants, new sex positions, or whatever.

I sometimes keep this open at work, just as something to look at when my mind has gone numb from the stupidity.

But I’m cancer-free for 2-1/2 years, now, and I’m really thankful to be reading anything right now.

Thanks, everyone, for the community.

by TasteeFreeze on Nov 26, 2010 2:14 AM CST up reply actions  

cook it without the legs and wrap it in bacon.

cooks with more consistency & keeps the juices in.

by craigws on Nov 25, 2010 5:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I had a Tofurkey sandwich. Hickory smoked.

Yum!

Intoxicated with the wine of cloaking powers and the gin of banning authority since 2005.

by Chiburb on Nov 25, 2010 5:53 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I'm not a big fan

never had it smoked though – we have turkey ham – disgusting stuff

by hoodlight on Nov 25, 2010 6:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Happy day anyway, Hoodie!

Intoxicated with the wine of cloaking powers and the gin of banning authority since 2005.

by Chiburb on Nov 25, 2010 6:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

and you too pal

have a good day – I don’t do thank you giving – but I’m there in sympathy

by hoodlight on Nov 25, 2010 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

thought i saw keith at the bar last night

man, strangers react weird to a greeting of “keith! it’s u-god! how the fuck are you?”

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Nov 25, 2010 7:23 PM CST reply actions  

throw in the terrible facial hair from it being november

and i’m quite the winner right now

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Nov 25, 2010 8:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't know what you're talking about

It’s great when you get past the scratchies.

by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 25, 2010 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

???

(not me, i take it?)

by CWSKeith on Nov 25, 2010 11:12 PM CST up reply actions  

unless you were at mojoe's last night

probably not. as soon as i said it, i realized it wasn’t you.

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Nov 26, 2010 1:19 AM CST up reply actions  

Well, (last night) I did run into someone who mentioned Enter the Wutang (without prompt from me) as his favorite album

he also had a Sox hat on. The only thing else that would’ve been needed for me to ask if he was a SSS’er would be a Wire reference.

by CWSKeith on Nov 26, 2010 1:49 AM CST up reply actions  

recycled

kenny and ozzie drama here

"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Nov 26, 2010 5:24 AM CST reply actions  

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