On the Second Day of Christmas My GM Gave to Me, Two More Relievers and an Outfielder to Bury Teahen on the Bench
Well not yet exactly, but its coming soon. An addition here or there and the 25 man roster is pretty much set.
About four more White Stockings are still hung from the chimney this year. Kenny Williams, a big fan of an old fashion Christmas, is sure to be filling them with care.
Juan Pierre, Alex Rios and Carlos Quentin are in the outfield. Paul Konerko, Gordon Beckham, Alexei Ramirez and Brent Morel are taking the infield with A J Pierzynski behind the dish. Adam Dunn is the DH. Those are our regulars. Im not even going to try and guess the batting order, but that's probably your opening day line up.
Riding pine we see Omar Vizquel, Mark Teahen, Ramon Castro, Brent Lillibridge, and possibly Dayan Viciedo. There's not an outfielder in the bunch. The Bridge appeared in the outfield for all of 8 games last season, 1/8 his total. The rest are all infielders or Mark Teahen.
We need one more guy out there. We also need another pitcher or two or three.
Although the field of free agents is generally pretty weak, I was optimistic they could land one of the better left overs out there for the outfield spot. Then Magglio Ordonez got ten million bucks. Oh. A Johnny Damon will cost too much. Willie Harris is available. That would be funny. Almost as good as mrs. e-gus' suggestion of Jermaine Dye.
Lastings Milledge was non-tendered. He's about the most interesting name out there. The former first rounder(12th overall by the Mets) is just now entering his prime. He hit a double in winter ball this week and threw a mimed grenade into the opposing teams dug out to celebrate. In the seventh they beaned him. He stole second, then this happened. A double, a stolen base, a fake grenade and a fight? He sounds fun, lets sign him.
If they want to truly get the band back together they can offer Andruw Jones another one year deal. Unfortunately, I think we'll be stuck seeing a lot of Teahen out there, especially on Sundays, so its probably coal in that stocking for you. Alejandro De Aza can make the team this spring if they want to keep it cheap, in house and get another lefty for that 5th outfielder. There are also a plethora of other replacement level shmoes out there ripe for the picking. I say either go big or stay home. Its also hard to be big when all you have is fifty cents.
The pitching staff looks pretty good. In fact the pieces in place look excellent, its just an incomplete puzzle at the moment. The rotation is a healthy Jake Peavy away from being the best 5 man rotation in the American League. John Danks, Mark Buehrle, Edwin Jackson and Gavin Floyd need a 5th. Hopefully this job opening is just temp work, but the need remains. The bullpen is light too, so for this stocking stuffer lets look again at the free agents that are available. Once more, not an awe inspiring field to draw from.
Jeff Francis came back from missing all of 2009 to pitch mostly all right last year. I brought him up a month ago and he's still out there as the guy I like the best. The 2004 minor league player of the year fits Kenny's modi operandi as a former star who lost some of his shine. Sign him, and if Peavy can give us anything in 2011 Francis can be our third lefty out of the pen to handle the M&M boys of Minnesota.
If the Sox sign a starter or go with a kid like Lucas Harrell(does not equal all in BTW) they have a 10 man staff. Thats two more stockings still hanging there empty on the 25 man mantle. I'm counting on Chris Sale being in the majors for this little exercise by the way. There just arent three affordable arms worth a damn out there, and money has to be tight right? We've called an all in bluff from the Tigers, but are there still any chips to push now that we've seen the flop? Lets pretend there are and that we won't have to rely on the emergence of a Gregory Infante or some other farm hand.
Octavio Dotel is out there, but he'll be costly, and if we're going costly then we'd want Rafael Soriano anyway. No, we need to take a more economical approach to replace Jenks, Putz and Linebrink or get crafty with a trade.
Its so nice I gotta say it twice. Scott Linebrink is no longer on the Sox, so yeah, Merry Christmas. Addition by subtraction there. The slight hang up here is that Bobby Jenks and J. J. Putz are also gone.
The problem here is that basically everybody I was planning on mentioning seems to have signed something this week. Bobby Jenks and Kerry Wood moved on, Sammy Gervacio and J. P. Howell stayed put, it looks like the guys with decent potential are getting snapped up or will cost a lot of money and possibly a draft pick. The well seems to be running dry making the price high as a result. What I don't want for Christmas are any more 3 year deals to relievers. One and done, please.
The back end of the bullpen might have to filled up as part of a gift exchange. The only trading chip the Sox seemingly have is Dayan Viciedo. Hes blocked at first and DH for the next few years now anyway. Maybe they think he can still come around at third or at least make up for his bad defense with his thunderous bat. Man, thats what I really want for Christmas. Dayan Viciedo to develop a passable glove at third base. He wouldn't need to ever walk with a good enough glove over there. How sick would that line up be? Could you imagine the meat of that order. Rios, Donkey, Kong, Quentin, Viciedo- south side hitmen indeed. Another trade option is Tyler Flowers, but leaving him out of your top ten prospect list isn't exactly a glowing recommendation. What the heck is he worth now anyway?
Losing focus here. Look, I'm not going to try and roster-bate the perfect trade. There are a few teams out there with depth where the Sox have holes. Houston has a full pen, Oakland is a nice fit with both a ton of outfielders and a full bullpen. They're probably the best fit as far as potential trade partners go based on what we need anyway. All we know for sure is that the White Sox aren't done just yet. Hopefully the brass will deliver with a few more nice gifts for Hannakuh and Christmas respectively.
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I think Dan Wheeler would be a great option
he might cost too much, though.
and hes a type A free agent.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
mlbtr says no arbitration offer
no so no draft pick cost.
by Gentleman Jim on Dec 16, 2010 9:54 PM CST up reply actions
aha
didnt know that. he wont be cheap though, thats for sure.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
Probably out of our price range at this point
but I would have preferred him for two years to Crain for three, despite the significant age difference.
by Gentleman Jim on Dec 16, 2010 9:58 PM CST up reply actions
for best results, click and listen to the kenny williams link whilst you read.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
I was going to post the same!
Kenny Williams performing in the background, and sweet “pierzynksi rules+OH” link cracking me up. Good stuff!
Taking a walk in a donkey park listening to the wind of change
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I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR MY BEHAVIOR!! I DAYDREAM WITH THE BEST OF THEM.......
by pierzynskirules on Dec 17, 2010 9:50 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd be okay with
Letting De Aza, and Jones or Milledge fighting for the bench spot. Save some cash for the pen.
Milledge is good at fighting
I would recommend putting all your thoughts together, then dumping them all out into one solidified stool.
-Shoeless In SC
by PeejSox on Dec 16, 2010 10:51 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Does Milledge believe in dinosaurs?
If not, he’s crazy enough for the South Side.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
De Aza/Gartrell and/or Jones would be fine. Teahen can't possibly be worse than Quentin in RF.
As for the bullpen… our current options look okay.
Crain®*
Santos®*
Pena®*
Sale (L)
Infante®*
Dolsi®
Thornton (L)*
*Denote locks to make the bullpen out of ST. Dolsi is a “?” as is Sale. I think another experienced guy would do the trick. Not sure I have faith in Dolsi/Infante.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 16, 2010 11:34 PM CST reply actions
Defensively, no he couldn't be worse.
But Q has a far bigger offensive upside. I’m not ready to start Teahen over Q yet, and I bet the Sox aren’t either.
Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 17, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
I know we have all speculated that Morel will be the 3rd baseman....
and if i was making the lineup right now I would pencil him in there too… but there is no way he gets penned in at this point. Have the higher ups in the sox organization given him the job officially?
I obviously think Freddy should be signed back.
I don’t have a problem going with Infante and Harrell in the pen.
De Aza will probably get the nod as the outfielder… I’d like to see Jones though. Quentin makes me very skeptical. There is a good chance that the 4th outfielder will play a lot given Quentin’s history and Guillen’s wanting to bench regulars. I am hoping that isn’t going to be Teahen’s job, but I bet it will be.
Kenwo4life=ratings
I think we'll see some of Dunn out there, too.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
he'll get some starts when we play interleague
outside of that, I hope not
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
by blackoutsox on Dec 17, 2010 12:31 AM CST up reply actions
Yep. I would definitely approve of a Freddy/Jones re-signing.
At the very least, given recent history, Jones will help carry the Sox offense until Kong and Alexei wake up. Freddy can start until Peavy is 100%, then maybe find a spot in the bullpen.
The sky IS falling.
I originally wanted Sale in AA but I've changed my mind now.
Thornton
Santos
Crain
Sale
thats a bonerific big four right there, and throw in Pena and Infante and we have our Bullpen. I would also definitely sign Garcia as sixth starter and he can do long relief out of the bullpen as needed. the only problem I see with Garcia is that he might want some more money now that he’s had a decent year.
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
i see 14 comments and it says there's 18. what are we cloaking now?
like fucking 1984 around here.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
You can see cloaked responses?
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 17, 2010 8:39 AM CST up reply actions
Since I am presently able to cloak
I can see those who have been cloaked. So, sure.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 17, 2010 8:48 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
OTOH
maybe I can’t see all cloaked comments. I see no discourse between e-g and larry..
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 17, 2010 8:50 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Entirely possible.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 17, 2010 8:58 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
that whole draft was crap but thanks.
I got distracted with real life and just barfed ideas all over the screen. Cleaned it up a bit now.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
I'd love to see De Aza on the opening day roster
Decent hitter against righties, great speed, plus defender. Perfect guy to pinch run for Pauly/Dunn/Q/AJ in the late innings, and can cover ground in the outfield.
..
Berkhoff: I have an excellent idea.
Pernod Ricard: I’m listening…
Berkhoff: A count down clock for your shitty vodka. It is so absurd that it will generate conversation amongst our not yet trashed liver demographic.
Pernod Ricard: Still listening.
Berkhoff: Lets make the clock run out before noon to suggest A.M. binge drinking is acceptable.
Pernod Ricard: Go on.
Berkhoff: They will vaguely remember it on their deathbeds as clever copy.
Perond Ricard: We will pay you a hay penny a site hit
Berkhoff: Deal
Somewhere a townhouse erupts in celebration and two recent liberal arts hotties are hired as sensors.
by Rhubarb on Dec 17, 2010 2:25 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Your finest stuff knows no bedtime
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 17, 2010 8:41 AM CST up reply actions
"Old Fashioned Christmas"
Perfect on so many levels. I could see Kenny busting out a “crying man” album, if he were so inclined.
Herb Kent could play it on the radio.
The guy at the bank doesn't care how many trophies you've got!
Some Vintage Sox Television
From August of ’77.
Channel 5 sportscast with Tim Weigel (who was wearing a tie that doubled as a kite).
The Sox were beating Burt Blyleven and the Texas Rangers, followed by a profile of Eric Soderholm.
The guy at the bank doesn't care how many trophies you've got!
Wow,
Timster is really really rocking those rapist glasses.
"BWAHAHAHA! WELCOME TO PURGATORY, ASSHOLE!" - winningugly
Gamble's fro is amazing.
I actually like those uniforms.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
The best baseball card ever.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 17, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
ha! blyleven's response was gold
“How is Jenny doing? My kids?” was fucken cracking up
Taking a walk in a donkey park listening to the wind of change
So uh...when we picking up Jermaine Dye?
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Dec 17, 2010 7:27 AM CST reply actions
Do you have his flight information?
Be sure to call ahead to see if his flight is ontime
It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted
by Scotty Ballgame on Dec 17, 2010 8:36 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
dude, i'd do it man for like 500g's mani think it'd be a solid pickup dude
2011 WhiteSox Baseball: we're all in
How bad is Teahen in RF?
While I realize Mark Teahen is Mark Teahen, he’s still getting paid a fair amount of money to be a utility player, we might as well get some use out of him.
He’s played over 200 games in RF in his career, I’d think as a back up, he’ll be serviceable enough. Teahen backup in RF, Dunn backup in LF.. and The Bridge or De Aza in CF. Can take care of this one in-house.
Rios has basically played in 150 games a year the last three years, so unless that changes, whoever we use as a back up CF (Lillibridge, Pierre, De Aza, Jones), won’t have many opportunities to ruin our season. I’m more concerned about filling out the bullpen. If Jones wants to come back cheap, for a million or less, go for it. If not, save the money and spend it on pitching and roll the dice with Lillibridge and De Aza.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 17, 2010 8:48 AM CST reply actions
I'm cool with this. De Aza and Gartrell would be fine on the bench.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 17, 2010 9:10 AM CST up reply actions
Is DeAza akin to Jerry Owens?
Who would be a good comp for DeAza?
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 17, 2010 9:27 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
de aza has shown more power than owens ever did.
across the board in XBH. but, yeah. 4th/5th outfielder type. he’s probably better than owens. gets hurt more, though.
jerry owens groin disagrees
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
yeah, that was the money quote from JO
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Dec 18, 2010 7:34 AM CST up reply actions
I gotta think if the answer was Jones, he'd have been inked by now
At least the Sox are building the roster from the front (aside from the early Omar re-sign), unlike last year.
Because of that, they’re in a position now where they can afford to roll the dice on a cheap vet. Find someone who has reasonable potential for a good year or half-year (Jones-ish), can play some decent defense and costs a mil or less. Or sign any and all reclamation projects that want to come for a minor league deal, and hope for some luck.
I shant be misled a second time
Boras is his agent, right?
No $500K deals this year for ’Druw.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 17, 2010 9:29 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
true. So maybe he could sign later when he doesnt find what he thinks he can get
I shant be misled a second time
Imagine how good the order could be
if Beckham bounces back as well.
Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 17, 2010 11:27 AM CST reply actions
Hopefully he's good enough to stay in the 2-hole.
And hit 30 doubles to the right-center gap.
(Stifles sophomoric chuckle.)
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 17, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
biceps-deep in fungible pumpkins.
by homesickalien on Dec 17, 2010 11:52 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
i hope for no more mark teahen very soon
bury him down more
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by pierzynskirules on Dec 17, 2010 12:40 PM CST reply actions
As a utility player, no.
As a regular, yes.
Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 17, 2010 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
Could Anthony Carter be ready for the bullpen?
whitesox.com says he has a “bright future” there. And he was just added to the 40-man.
Mike C-Dubs in da hooooouse!
from the scouting reports, pitch f/x and what little i saw of him in the AFL
he’d get killed by major league hitters. his stuff looks pretty marginal. he needs some AAA time for sure. one thing the guy does is throw strikes so at least we wouldn’t have to witness walks. considering the dearth of options, whether he’s ready or not, he may be in the bullpen. i’d keep in mind, though, that he wasn’t the guy the team called up from AA when they needed bullpen help during a pennant chase. that should give an idea of what the organization thought of him at the time.
And he fills our Italian quota.
"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."
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