Visualization Of Data: The Future Of Baseball?
I'll start off by stating upfront that participating in a discussion about this subject is going to take some commitment. The linked video is 50 minutes long, and it's not a shallow topic or itself directly related to baseball, but believe me when I say it is well worth the time. Visualization of data, a step up from regular old charts and graphs, is becoming near-essential in relaying, understanding and processing information. Well-designed visualizations can really drive home a point, and can be a very effective way to educate and inform readers or viewers. Poor visualizations can be confusing and misleading, or can even be next-to-useless as the audience would suffer from a "deluge of data" with a lack of context or objective. New tools and easy-to-use technology means visualizations are becoming more and more abundant and relevant, and Eric Rodenbeck, an interviewee, even compares this revolution to "the early days of cinema." Certainly baseball does not suffer for a lack of data (Fangraphs and Baseball Reference exist for a reason). It will be very interesting to see what this visualization movement means for fans, media and the ball clubs themselves in the next few years.
Here's the video and official description: Journalism In The Age Of Data
Journalists are coping with the rising information flood by borrowing data visualization techniques from computer scientists, researchers and artists. Some newsrooms are already beginning to retool their staffs and systems to prepare for a future in which data becomes a medium. But how do we communicate with data, how can traditional narratives be fused with sophisticated, interactive information displays?
Having watched that, how incredible would it be to have even more baseball stats presented in some of the ways shown and described? At 18:25 in, Koci Hernandez talks about motion graphics, a sort of guided tour of graphs. Raw information can be presented in a way that is entertaining, easy to understand, and features clear progression from one visualization to the next. This is already happening, with the increasing use of Pitch f/x and corresponding strike zone heat maps. What would that mean for some of the more complex and perhaps intimidating baseball stats, in terms of reaching a wider audience and gaining more mainstream acceptance? What could that widespread acceptance by fans eventually mean for the inclusion of stats in the game itself? Could visualization be a literal game-changer?
Locally, this could mean even more knowledgeable White Sox fans. At the 32:25 mark, there is discussion of Google charts and live data being visually represented. This sort of tool could even be applied to gamethreads, to say nothing of baseball news, player comparison or team analysis in general. Imagine the possibilities of displaying pertinent data about player value embedded in a news story immediately following a trade. With all these free services, like Swivel, Protovis, and Many Eyes, more and better quality visualizations are surely to come. There already some pretty good examples here and here, and, of course, as was seen a few days ago on Beyond the Boxscore. For even more examples, BtB has a plethora. The tough part is, besides making a point, connecting the data presented into relevant subjects. Just because it's pretty doesn't mean it's pertinent. Here's a decent example of a good start:
It's well-organized data in a simple format, and that alone speaks for its quality. But would there be a way to keep it simple and include more information? What makes these players "the best ever," and, without sarcasm, why do we care?
I would love to see the proliferation of this medium and fully intend on promoting it. Suppose this is a call to action on behalf of useful information; it would be extraordinary if many of us here on SSS begin experimenting with visualization. Thoughts?
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i am amused that the visualization of data post does not have a visual.
by larry on Dec 17, 2010 12:04 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
I bet when the New Regime assumes power
there will be plenty of visuals.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 17, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
Piker.
Only one?
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 17, 2010 12:36 PM CST up reply actions
I don't see a moustache.
(Better get these witticisms out of the way now, we should.)
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 17, 2010 12:47 PM CST up reply actions
Fangraphs had a great article a few days ago talking about FIELD/fx and all the data it generates.
Really good practical applications of the data now becoming available.
Thoughts on Carl Crawford and FIELDf/x
busy weaving laurel wreath for k dawg and JR. These guys are straight up gangsta this year. -LT_sox_fan on Dec 15, 2010
by South Side Expat on Dec 17, 2010 12:04 PM CST reply actions
Thanks, interesting topic. I look forward to watching the vid when able. And add a pretty picture please!
I’d personally prefer to see something of this post’s nature as a fanpost, so it doesn’t get pushed down the front page and out of sight by the end of the weekend.
Especially given that most of us logging in from work, will not have the opportunity to explore the vid and links today while it’s at its most featured.
biceps-deep in fungible pumpkins.
The hell with the overlords
This is an excellent example of data visualization and it’s only 4 minutes, “200 Countries, 200 Years, 4 Minutes”
Good companion pieces are “Our Banana Republic” and “Our Hedge Fund Republic”
"You could see Dunn's home run from Russia!"
by blackoutsox on Dec 15, 2010 1:28 PM EST
reminds me of this...
talk about visualization…
http://www.baseballssteroidera.com/
I cannot answer any more questions for you today. I has wickeds gas from drink too manys redbull.
That is an excellent example.
I especially like hovering over the central players. Well executed. Now if only it linked to the news stories…
KenWo said something about the linked BtB piece, and needing player names attached. I’m inclined to agree; it’s a ton of info, but perhaps using a zoom feature it could make up an outstanding standalone reference.
The sky IS falling.
White Sox 2010 Game Scores

I input our starters’ games scores for 2010. A zero game score meant the starter was skipped or missed the start. The data doesn’t make any kind of revelation, but it is neat to see an entire year’s worth of game scores represented visually. Game score is on the Y-axis and trip thru the rotation is on the X. It’s easy to see why we had to climb our way back to .500 after a poor start to the season (rotation trips 2-4), as well as what fueled the 11-game win streak (rotation trips 13-15). The real chart is interactive, so you can click on individual pitchers using the key on the left to isolate them and see how their variation throughout the season.
by 3E8 on Dec 17, 2010 4:00 PM CST reply actions 2 recs
That's a very nice piece of work, 3E8.
The ‘all’ option is a bit misleading, though; it looks like Buehrle is the best pitcher every time through the rotation, which makes me prefer the individual charts. soxshenaniggans brings up some valid points about distorted numbers below.
The sky IS falling.
I like the ALL bit
It shows the rotation as a cumulative unit (makes sense since the X is trips through the rotation). You can see who contributed most in which trip by the vertical width of each color band. I like this style better than a clunky 3D graph.
I shant be misled a second time
Andrew Gelman has a thing or two to say about data visualization
http://www.stat.columbia.edu/~cook/movabletype/archives/2010/05/a_data_visualiz.html
I think that is very helpful, but data visualization can also be used to distort numbers. Seeing something visually can change the perception in a less truthful way. I’m sure a lot of you here have heard of the book “How to lie with statistics.”
and now I’m rambling…
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how to lie with statistics is a fantastic reference
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Dec 18, 2010 3:36 AM CST up reply actions
OT:
Just got my 2011 Fantasy Camp info (even though I opted out twice already). New coaching additions include Robin Ventura and “Moose” Skowron. DAMMIT! I CAN’T GO THIS YEAR!
2012, here we come…
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
I'm going...there is no way WSCR won't pick me to win their giveaway
I sent them my Buehrle perfect game sob story in under 67 words.
Thank you.
Beware the cure isn't worse than the disease
by Chiburb on Dec 17, 2010 5:02 PM CST via mobile reply actions
no problem
If is is one handed shitting. by winningugly
by mick10 on Dec 17, 2010 5:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Greinke fires agent, wants out of KC.
I love the offseason.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/Zack-Greinke-asks-Kansas-City-Royals-for-trade-fires-agent-121710
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
lol agent can't do nothing right
I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR MY BEHAVIOR!! I DAYDREAM WITH THE BEST OF THEM.......
by pierzynskirules on Dec 17, 2010 9:56 PM CST up reply actions
I hope he goes to the nl
or anyone not named Rangers or Yankees
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
do the twins have the chips to get grienke?
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Dec 18, 2010 3:39 AM CST up reply actions
the royals stated earlier in the offseason they would not trade him to the a.l. central.
of course if the twins pony up what they want i’m sure they can look past that.
Kenwo4life=ratings
I hope the Royals institute a policy avoiding any trading within the division.
Somebody needs to protect Kenny from trading for more of their garbage again.
"BWAHAHAHA! WELCOME TO PURGATORY, ASSHOLE!" - winningugly
lol very true
bastards would trade us macdougal and teahen and trade the twins grienke and soria.
Kenwo4life=ratings
dis pooty goo T.P.
"There's too many (bleeping) guys on the computer. It's simple. I say that. Pete Rose never watched a computer. Rod Carew never did. All those hitters, they go out and see the ball, hit it and move on." - Ozzie
Excellent
As someone who lurks here 95% of the time and occasionally posts graphs (not to mention does data viz professionally and is looking at grad school for it), I’m a big fan of this.
If anybody is really interested in any of this, I’d recommend the books of Edward Tufte and Stephen Few. They’ll open your eyes and make you realize that 99% of charts out there are crap, and that it’s very, very difficult to visualize data in any way that actually illuminates what you’re trying to say, other than just looks cool.
Also, I’ve been working on a very complicated motion chart involving baseball history for a while now. I’ll be sure to post it here when I’m done.
White Sox fan; Jeppson's Malort man
by KarkoviceIsHawt on Dec 18, 2010 10:54 AM CST reply actions 2 recs
FBR.
He was a Yankee. Mays – now there was a ballplayer.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
and a red sox.
in all fairness to willie, he wasn’t also one of the best pitchers in the league before he was one of the greatest hitters of all time.
He could've played anywhere and been great.
And did when he was younger. He pitched as a kid, IIRC.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
i like the story about mays
turning up at the park (i think it was at spring training) as a sixty year old and he was still capable of hitting homer after homer.
luke appling homered at old comiskey in an old timers game.
i forget how old he was but he was pretty ancient.
Kenwo4life=ratings
nice little write up about the situation. ive seen video of it but can't find any
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1125797/index.htm
Kenwo4life=ratings
Way to dig for the story, you bloodhound.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

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