KenWo's Corner - Dayan Viciedo
by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 17, 2010 8:17 PM CST
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PrintLast week we took a look at Chris Sale and what his role in 2011 should be. This week, the spotlight is on Dayan Viciedo. He is one of our top offensive prospects and can be used in several different ways in the upcoming season. Let's face it, the emergence of Brent Morel along with the signing of Adam Dunn and the re-signing of Paul Konerko has made this offseason hard out there for The Pimp.
Viciedo went from being the third baseman of the future to falling behind Brent Morel on the depth chart. He did play there a bit in 2010 and, while he does have a nice arm, proved he doesn't have the quickness and instinct to play third base on a permanent basis, at least not yet. He was switched over to first base upon his return to the minors and was looked about as the probable first baseman when and if Paul Konerko bolted. Konerko stayed and Dunn was brought in, which not only left the Pimp without a corner but also meant no DH'ing.
At the plate, however, Viciedo proved two things. First, he can absolutely sting the baseball. When Viciedo makes contact, it almost seems different coming off the bat than when anyone else does. He has pure power that doesn't come around every day. Secondly, he doesn't see a pitch he doesn't like. Viciedo will swing hard at most anything. A lot of people view it as a weakness, but I am old school and like the approach. I am not a fan of taking away a players aggressiveness.
So what should the Sox do with him? There are plenty of options. Should he take on the job of bench player? Should he be returned to the minor leagues as a third baseman? Should he be traded for relief help? All of these are plausible options. The Sox could use a power hitter off the bench, they could use 2011 as an opportunity to improve his defense at one of the corners or they could dangle him out there for a reliever.
If I was in charge, I would let him compete with Morel for the third base job this year. Assuming he is beaten out, I would immediately let him bat 4th and play left field for Charlotte. If he can be somewhat capable in left field, with his stick, he could start 2012 in the middle of the Sox order. This is his quickest ticket to the big leagues with the White Sox. You don't have to be a defensive wizard to play left. Carlos Quentin wasn't viewed as drastically terrible when he played left as he is now in right. Carlos Lee made the switch from 3rd base to LF back in '99 and has been there ever since. No, he won't win any gold gloves, but I think you have to get that bat into the middle of the order as quickly as possible. He has the potential to be a special hitter.
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Hey, if Minnesota can make a fat no-glover work in left field, why can't we?
Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 17, 2010 10:46 PM CST reply actions
yeah. hm..
how the fuck do they win again?
by obnoxious american on Dec 19, 2010 4:56 AM CST up reply actions
definitely would like to see him in a corner
who knows if Q will work out. Pierre is gone.
Fireworks: Bang?
yeah stick him in the OF
in the minors to start. Good chance he’s ready for the big club by the midseason classic.
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
It's so nice to be able to discuss our outfield next year and not have to worry about center.
I think Morel showed enough last year that there really shouldn’t/won’t be a competition this year. I think the platoon of Vizquel and Morel should be set, but at the same time of course at the very least give Viciedo the chance to fight for it. I really like the idea of seeing how he would do to a corner OF assignment in the minors, cause yeah, the guy can smack, and if he can get his reads decent, he certainly can’t be worse than what we’ve had out there.
busy weaving laurel wreath for k dawg and JR. These guys are straight up gangsta this year. -LT_sox_fan on Dec 15, 2010
by South Side Expat on Dec 17, 2010 11:17 PM CST reply actions
"It's so nice to be able to discuss our outfield next year and not have to worry about center."
Hear, Hear!!!
"Yet you skate like you think wearing it is enough."
LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!
by ballyb on Dec 18, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I picked "Minor League outfielder"
because it was the closest thing to Owens.
Mike C-Dubs in da hooooouse!
by mikecws91 on Dec 17, 2010 11:44 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
I wouldnt mind him in an outfield spot
pending he shows he can move out there at all
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
posted to early
was going to finish with: this guy did get shin splints rounding third base.
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
by blackoutsox on Dec 18, 2010 12:52 AM CST up reply actions
I went with Minor League 1st/3rd base
But I was darn close to picking ML Outfield. I just feel like I’d like to see him try third base for one more season in the minors to see if he can improve at all. He’s got a nice arm. Maybe working with Cora some more will help him out. But I feel like if Viciedo can show improvement it allows the team to put a more potent bat at third. Because what happens if Q can return to something like his 08 form and stays healthy? Dunn has the DH spot filled for the next few years and while I’m not going to automatically conform to the “we need speed at the top of the lineup” cliche’, I feel like it’d be easier to find a leadoff guy who can play left field as opposed to finding a leadoff guy who can play third base and make Morel completely expendable.
"There he was!!! Dirtying his shiny Sox helmet!!!" - homesickalien at the brief glimpse of Manny Ramirez
by Servant2LordBeckham on Dec 18, 2010 2:34 AM CST reply actions
I said Minor League OF too
Only because that’s where we will have more needs. But I agree his arm is definitely 3B-worthy.
"Hawk Harrelson: Annoying even the hearing impaired": Teahenny Penny paraphrasing Chisoxfan1473
by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 18, 2010 10:31 AM CST up reply actions
you are the minor league guru and have followed him a lot more closely than I
so i will take your word for it… but from the small sample size i saw- I can’t remember him uncorking terrible throws. Usually if he made a mistake it was not handling the ground ball.
Kenwo4life=ratings
May be teachable?
Certainly the arm strength/velocity is there. Perhaps taking a moment to set up or to get the feet properly positioned. Of course it may be he’s just too slow afoot for the IF.
"Hawk Harrelson: Annoying even the hearing impaired": Teahenny Penny paraphrasing Chisoxfan1473
by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 18, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
When I said "nice arm" I meant strength/velocity
and NSP pointed this out also. But I’ll also second what KenWo said in that I don’t remember him making a bunch of terrible throws over to first. I haven’t gone and looked at the numbers though. If he’s terrible at third then I’m all for converting him to a corner outfield spot.
That being said… who would you put in the leadoff spot if this scenario were to play out?
"There he was!!! Dirtying his shiny Sox helmet!!!" - homesickalien at the brief glimpse of Manny Ramirez
by Servant2LordBeckham on Dec 18, 2010 2:25 PM CST up reply actions
So while I wait for him to make some more throws and increase the sample size...
I’ll be watching THIS
"There he was!!! Dirtying his shiny Sox helmet!!!" - homesickalien at the brief glimpse of Manny Ramirez
by Servant2LordBeckham on Dec 18, 2010 2:40 PM CST up reply actions
the only place you could have seen homers like that
was if you watched me in little league.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Which is the very reason I have contacted Doc Brown about borrow the De Lorean
"There he was!!! Dirtying his shiny Sox helmet!!!" - homesickalien at the brief glimpse of Manny Ramirez
by Servant2LordBeckham on Dec 18, 2010 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
borrowing*
And when I get it from him I’m going to go back and stop myself from making that typo as well.
"There he was!!! Dirtying his shiny Sox helmet!!!" - homesickalien at the brief glimpse of Manny Ramirez
by Servant2LordBeckham on Dec 18, 2010 2:47 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
the leadoff spot in 2012 is not something i really worry about at this point.
probably would need to go outside the organization for that. no 2012 free agent is coming immediately to mind in such a scenario.
Fair enough
"There he was!!! Dirtying his shiny Sox helmet!!!" - homesickalien at the brief glimpse of Manny Ramirez
by Servant2LordBeckham on Dec 18, 2010 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
why not beckham? if he performs like we think he should
he could handle the duty. Obviously we have to see if he is more 2010 than 2009….. i tend to think he’s more 2009.
Kenwo4life=ratings
If the team is constructed like it is currently, he's be a good choice.
If is is one handed shitting. by winningugly
I don't think Jerry Owens has any plans for 2012.
Other than ending the world…
"There he was!!! Dirtying his shiny Sox helmet!!!" - homesickalien at the brief glimpse of Manny Ramirez
by Servant2LordBeckham on Dec 18, 2010 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
...Rob Mackowiak??
…Andy Gonzalez??
What do you want from me?
"There he was!!! Dirtying his shiny Sox helmet!!!" - homesickalien at the brief glimpse of Manny Ramirez
by Servant2LordBeckham on Dec 18, 2010 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
Ah, Andy Gonzalez.
Now THERE’S a terrible 3B.
"Let's go, go, go, go White Sox, although you're 4 and 8. Your offense is anemic and you can't score runs. And you can't even beat the Cleveland Indiuns." April 2010
Teahen?
Fuck! He’s still here.
"There he was!!! Dirtying his shiny Sox helmet!!!" - homesickalien at the brief glimpse of Manny Ramirez
by Servant2LordBeckham on Dec 18, 2010 3:06 PM CST up reply actions
At least Goggles never made three throwing errors in one inning.
"Let's go, go, go, go White Sox, although you're 4 and 8. Your offense is anemic and you can't score runs. And you can't even beat the Cleveland Indiuns." April 2010
that's because he could never field 3 balls in one inning.
If is is one handed shitting. by winningugly
by mick10 on Dec 18, 2010 3:08 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Somewhere Buster Olney agrees.
"There he was!!! Dirtying his shiny Sox helmet!!!" - homesickalien at the brief glimpse of Manny Ramirez
by Servant2LordBeckham on Dec 18, 2010 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
he must have struck you out in little league.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
by e-gus on Dec 18, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
stop yourself.
If anything he spun around in the dirt after trying to make contact with my splitter on an 0-2 count after i blazed 2 high heaters right by the piece of dung.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Can't have Swish without a bag of douche.
"There he was!!! Dirtying his shiny Sox helmet!!!" - homesickalien at the brief glimpse of Manny Ramirez
by Servant2LordBeckham on Dec 18, 2010 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
This picture must have been taken by OC.
"Let's go, go, go, go White Sox, although you're 4 and 8. Your offense is anemic and you can't score runs. And you can't even beat the Cleveland Indiuns." April 2010
I like the idea of Tank in LF . . .
so I voted for him to play in MiLB as a corner outfielder with the potential of him coming up to help sometime during the season.
I think the worst thing tha the Sox could do with him is use him as trade bait for a veteran but average bullpen arm. I think that would be a poor return for a player that has tremendous potential (remember how young he is) and plays with infectious enthusiasm.
i agree with the trading thing....
If it was in a package to get someone like Fielder or a big named starter or something…. then fine. For a reliever though? Just makes me think long and hard about Jeff Bagwell for Larry Anderson.
Kenwo4life=ratings
i think you're overestimating the value of viciedo as a trading chip (for either fielder or a ~ #3 starter)
that said, i don’t find trading him for a middle reliever preferable…
i had voted for keeping him as a bench player, but i change my mind. starting him in MiLB in the outfield is something to be considered
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Dec 18, 2010 6:23 AM CST up reply actions
I said "in a package" for fielder/starter
and as far as trading chips go… im pretty sure if a team wants to deal with us he is one of the first guys they ask about…. (of course our lack of a farm system has something to do with that for sure)
Kenwo4life=ratings
And the bereft farm system
is exactly why I would prefer to keep him
"Hawk Harrelson: Annoying even the hearing impaired": Teahenny Penny paraphrasing Chisoxfan1473
by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 18, 2010 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
Trading Dayan
for a reliever would quickly make me sick to my stomach. Some of the younger teams should have KW on speed dial trying to flip relievers for a chance to give him a go at 1b. I think he puts up big numbers at AAA if he’s there.
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
I too would like to see him give the outfield a try.
If he’s a disaster there, we can trade him or try to make a 3b out of him. One full year in AAA to hone OF skills and plate discipline, then he takes over for Pierre. With our pitching staff, we need to field the ball and when you don’t field well at 3b it’s usually 2 bases you’re giving up rather than one. We’ll have enough hitting in the lineup to carry the best defender at 3b this season.
If is is one handed shitting. by winningugly
Agreed.
Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 18, 2010 9:32 AM CST up reply actions
i like the OF idea
He provides us with a backup bat in the event Rios, Quentin, Konerko or Dunn go down.
If he replaces Pierre in 2012 then who leads off? Here we go again :)
I don't know if mitchell will be ready by next season.
but an outfield of Viciedo in LF, Mitchell in CF and Rios in RF very well might be the future. It kind of falls into place.
As for next season- lets see how Beckham does this year. He’s not your prototypical ozzie leadoff hitter but I think he could do the job.
Kenwo4life=ratings
I think Rios could be a capable leadoff man again
were it to come down to that.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 19, 2010 4:18 PM CST up reply actions
i don't think he's one of the 3 best hitters on the team
i still think Beckham will be better, for one.
Fireworks: Bang?
Passable on-base while usually plus on the bases.
It would also probably take from his double plays. Besides, the three best hitters on the team rarely find the leadoff slot under Ozzie’s(and most managers’) regimes.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 19, 2010 7:38 PM CST up reply actions
I'd rather try the Pimp in the outfield than pay Jones another 2mil
2011 WhiteSox Baseball: we're all in
I would assume if they converted Viciedo to the outfield it would be LF or RF.
So who would relieve Rios if he needed a day off? I think a cheap in house option right now is De Aza. He doesn’t have pop but he’s fast and you can plug him into any of the outfield spots.
"There he was!!! Dirtying his shiny Sox helmet!!!" - homesickalien at the brief glimpse of Manny Ramirez
by Servant2LordBeckham on Dec 18, 2010 2:29 PM CST up reply actions
the more I see your avatar the more I think it needs to be a t-shirt
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
This is how I intend to be identified
if I ever actually make it to a methup.
"BWAHAHAHA! WELCOME TO PURGATORY, ASSHOLE!" - winningugly
I'm going to amend my previous post and say
Hopefully he’ll be part of the winning package for Zack Grienke and become the Royals issue to deal with.
Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 18, 2010 7:50 PM CST reply actions
I'm not sure Grienke could crack our starting rotation.
If is is one handed shitting. by winningugly
There's that relief power arm Kenny's been hunting for...
I cannot answer any more questions for you today. I has wickeds gas from drink too manys redbull.
I heard some goofball call into the Score this morning and ask Cowley if there was any chance of the Sox putting a package together for Grienke,
Was the you?
2011 WhiteSox Baseball: we're all in
I hear he may be a Brewer soon
Source tells me #Brewers have traded SS Alcides Escobar, CF Lorenzo Cain, and RHP Jeremy Jeffress for RHP Zack Greinke, SS Betancourt + $2M
http://twitter.com/BerniesCrew/status/16337274534887424
…
Know why I believe it?
Because I can totally buy Alicedes Escobar as the centerpiece of the royals return package.
They love those light hitting defensive weinerstick Shortstops.
Like when they traded Jermaine Dye for Neifi Perez when they also had Rey Sanchez.
I would recommend putting all your thoughts together, then dumping them all out into one solidified stool.
-Shoeless In SC
by PeejSox on Dec 18, 2010 11:04 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Why include Betancourt?
Does he know a good shortcut that goes clear around Rockford?
by TasteeFreeze on Dec 18, 2010 11:56 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I'd bet its the same source that gave us this last year:
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
my sources tell me
that the Brewers are going to be the winner of the NL central. They never could pitch… now they have grienke, marcum and gallardo. pretty tough.
Kenwo4life=ratings
yep.
thats ok i dont mind him as a brewer i hope he signs a big deal there since we aren’t gettin him.
Kenwo4life=ratings
their bullpen is fugly.
and we all know your offense is only as good as your bullpen.
i am a bark for buffeting. i am a hound for thornypaws. i am a doe for swiftness. i am a tree for wind-siege. i am a windmill. i am a hole in a wall.
No, it wasn't.
You’d know if I called into the Score. I’d just use this same name.
Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 19, 2010 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
If Viciedo's arm is seen as a plus tool...
Could that go to waste in LF? I guess its a moot point, right? At 1B, he’s wasting it, too.
I like the idea of trying him out in the OF. And I’ll bet Boras does too. The quicker he gets to the big leagues, the quicker the clock strikes Free Agency.
I cannot answer any more questions for you today. I has wickeds gas from drink too manys redbull.
if Pierre gets attention for his arm, then I think we can assume Viciedo's arm won't go to waste
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
in case of being idamaned
Grienke to brewers for Jake Odorizzi, Lorenzo Cain, Alcides Escobar, and Jeremy Jeffress. Brewers also get Betancourt
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
On the other hand, the Royals have a wash at shortstop.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 19, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions
Meaning... Betancourt won't be hemorrhaging runs for them anymore.
Escobar should be passable. Cain and Jeffress will probably improve them too.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 19, 2010 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
yup, royals got fleeced in my opinion
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
well I dont. those prospects are tripe
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
by blackoutsox on Dec 20, 2010 12:39 AM CST up reply actions
I think they'll get more out of this package
Than any recent trade involving CC Sabathia, Cliff Lee or Johan Santana.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 20, 2010 1:29 AM CST up reply actions
agreed
escobar alone is better than any player from those packages turned out.
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
It's as good a package as they could get
for a nutjob who demanded a trade. Not a ton of leverage. KC looks quite formidable in 2012. Let’s enjoy their 100+ loss season next year and brace for improvement.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
As good as they could get?
I don’t think I agree with that. Seems to me he was too focused on position instead of getting the best package.
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
without knowing what other offers were out there, who knows.
the only other offer we’re aware of is the nationals offer, which greinke nixed by saying he wouldn’t waive his NTC to go there.
and, if you’re going to focus on position, there are worse positions to focus on than SS and CF.
Karl's take (and mine) why the rush?
If this deal seems a little light to you in terms of return, you’re not alone. Maybe Greinke’s limited no-trade protection put the Royals in an especially difficult situation, but if this is really all that two years of an ace brings you in December, that would suggest they’d have been better off holding onto him, and folding up any trade negotiations until later. Not that everybody is going to get what the Rangers got from the Braves at the deadline for Mark Teixeira in 2007, but a year and a half of control while trying to make a run at a pennant has a way of pressuring bidders into action. If this was the best deal they could get for Greinke now, the absence of any one definite difference-maker for the fortunes of the franchise strikes me as a squandered opportunity to convert Greinke into a more certain component of any future success they might aspire to.
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
and they'd have spent about $8 million on his salary if they waited until the deadline.
greinke ain’t cheap, folks.
I thought about the money
I still think its a missed opportunity and a case of “reading” their own press clippings about the current system. Hey Im just glad he and Lee are out of the AL>
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
Especially considering the system they've built
Dayton Moore and co. may well be scouting savants. It may not be a sure thing but it’s probably the best chance KC has.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 20, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
They have sucked for years
Again color me not impressed they have managed to build a stellar minor league system. I know I know, they get some credit for the picks…..
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
You have a point.
The pirates have had high draft picks for a long, long time. Yet they still haven’t put together a very good farm system.
Eventually, though, the Royals have to translate that good farm system into a winner.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 20, 2010 11:52 PM CST up reply actions
And I agree SS is a good position to focus on if you
“had” to but again why the freaking hurry? I like defense with the best of them but he appears at this point light hitting (i know its early) and you aren’t ready to compete for a couple years. Maybe this part of evaluation is just over my head.
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
I can see why you'd question it
based upon KC’s trading history but I’d err on the side of maximizing value. Since the Yankees supposedly were considering him (and few others) they may have felt they had to use what leverage they had – which, again, was not a lot. Would you want to bet the Greinke farm that 2011 would be a much better year for him, or do you think that a disgruntled employee who has a history of anxiety issues might devalue his own currency?
It’s a conservative move. Better than the FNS trade. ;)
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 20, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
Escobar and Cain have a good chance to develop into average players at premium positions.
That’s worth a lot, especially to a team like KC who has a modest budget, a long run of ineptitude and uber prospects at corner positions.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 20, 2010 4:04 PM CST up reply actions
color me not impressed
I certainly understand that. I think most of us who thought the package was light do. Im guessing in 3-4 years we’ll be like they got “what” for Greinke. A stacked minor league season isnt an excuse to take a shortfall IMO.
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
people with more knowledge of such things seem to think they didn't take a shortfall.
http://mlb.fanhouse.com/2010/12/20/prospect-laden-royals-will-be-long-term-winners-in-zack-greinke/
once also needs to keep in mind that greinke asked to be traded. it wasn’t much of an option to hang on to him until july.
Well Im not going anywhere
I’ll be the first to admit I was wrong in a couple years if I am. Obviously there are a ton a folks with more knowledge than I on the subject matter.
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
They weren't taking a shortfall, that's the thing.
They did well to get what they got. You can disagree but they didn’t just mail it in, especially given the circumstances.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 20, 2010 4:37 PM CST up reply actions
right, you might not especially care for the package
but it’s pretty unlikely they didn’t do their due dilligence. greinke’s a special case.
Fireworks: Bang?
and they unloaded Betancourt
that was probably important for KC.
If is is one handed shitting. by winningugly
I think the problem is that Escobar isn't on the prospect lists anymore.
In 2009 BA had him at 19th overall on theirs for example, the first shortstop on the list, and one spot ahead of Gordon Beckham.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
yeah that's part of it
the other part is he was totally underwhelming with the bat in ’10. here are his MLEs per Dan Szymborski from ’08 and ’09:
.268/.298/.354
.265/.315/.357
and his actual ’10:
.235/.288/.326
if you buy the scouting reports, his fld+pos adj+ replev is probably 35 runs/150 G or so, which means he’s got to his wOBA to ~ .300 to be average.
Fireworks: Bang?
That's a reasonable expectation going forward
That makes being a solid regular well within reach especially if he continues to make defensive adjustments.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 20, 2010 10:54 PM CST up reply actions
I really like "Pimp Tank" as his nickname
“Tank” on its’ own is just a little weak (not like Sammy Sosa- “The Panther” weak but not quite “El Caballo” strong as Hawk Harrelson nicknames go).
And I like him in LF
I would recommend putting all your thoughts together, then dumping them all out into one solidified stool.
-Shoeless In SC
Hot Fire!
We only respectable members of the blog to any kind of standard. - Grinder In Training
by omnipotent grab on Dec 19, 2010 6:44 PM CST up reply actions
Brown Bear is my 2nd favourite
I would recommend putting all your thoughts together, then dumping them all out into one solidified stool.
-Shoeless In SC
he seems like a terribly nickname-able player
One day, when I’m getting stoned with an aggregate of baseball friends watching a game I’ll try to make a chart or something of what types of players are nickname-able and what types of players are naturally resistant to nicknames.
This seems like an interesting study.
I would recommend putting all your thoughts together, then dumping them all out into one solidified stool.
-Shoeless In SC
I still like El Toro
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 20, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
ohhhh - noooo
not got good – the cock bird has died – do you think I should buy a replacement, tell them by e-mail, or wait until they get back?
Cost me 90 quid in vet bills – not good – where is u-god – he supposed to know this shit
by hoodlight on Dec 19, 2010 5:54 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
hahahah. rec'd. your best work yet, hoodie.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
Oh man i just got about as pissed as i would if we re-signed mackowiak
They just showed the worst play in NFL history- the Tom Brady Tuck play. What a crock of shit that was. The Raiders shoulda been in the superbowl and would have won. a;slkdjffas;ffhklas;lkdghda;lsdkgha;ldskfghj man that steams me til this day. garbage.
Kenwo4life=ratings
i feel bad for Chuck
that’s about it. CW is clearly the greatest football player to ever exist.
Fireworks: Bang?
Charles Woodson! also a Michigan grad and heisman winner
and one of my favorite Packer players! and dont worry about Chuck. hes getting his ring this year.
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
by blackoutsox on Dec 19, 2010 11:06 PM CST up reply actions
This Chuck is equally likely to get a ring this year
by Gentleman Jim on Dec 19, 2010 11:20 PM CST up reply actions
DTM.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 20, 2010 10:01 AM CST up reply actions
they show that every time the pats are on national tv...its like the freaking '85 Bears
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