A Decade Under The Influence: A Chicago White Sox Anti-All Star Team
During the winter you tend to see a rather large amount of SBN sites throw up Top 100 (insert team name here) of All Time lists. This seemed like quite the tall task, so I decided to go a different route with it. I have assembled an Anti-All Star team for the Chicago White Sox, using only players from the 2000-2009 seasons. For a player to be eligible for a spot on the team, they must have played the lion's share of the team's total innings at said position that year. Understand? Good. This team is probably not for those with weak stomachs or a predisposition to PTSD. Without further ado, I give you the worst starting position players the Pale Hose had to offer in the 00's.
C- Ben Davis from 2004: Somehow Ben Davis managed to lead the team in innings caught even though he joined the White Sox on June 27. The lesser half of the Freddy Garcia trade, Davis managed to be worth 0.1 WAR in his 54 games. He hit .231/.276/.400 with 6 homeruns, 9 walks, and 40 strikeouts. Davis would never play in the majors again and now pitches for the Camden River Sharks of the Atlantic League. Close competition: Sandy Alomar Jr from 2001 and Mark Johnson from 2002.
1B- Paul Konerko from 2003: Paul Konerko won his spot on the team by default, as no player has recorded more time at first base in a season than him since before he joined the team in 1999. It also wan't hard to pick which season of his would earn the title. In his age 27 season, usually a player's peak season, Konerko managed to have his worst. Maybe it was his participation in the 2002 Home Run Derby that caused him to have such a terrible first half the next season (.197/.267/.300). His BABIP was .059 lower than his career norm despite a respectable 22.9% LD%. Hindsight allows us to see his 2003 season for the fluke that it was, but it was one hell of a fluke.
2B- D'Angelo Jimenez from 2003: Poor D'Angelo Jimenez. His 2003 season wasn't even actually that bad (.255/..322/.410), but life isn't easy when you are facing off against guys like Ray Durham, Tadahito Iguchi, and Alexei Ramirez. Jimenez hit 7 homeruns in his half-season with the White Sox that year before being traded to the Cincinnati Reds for Scott Dunn, a pitcher who would never play for Chicago but would turn into Scott Schoeneweis. Close competition: Tadahito Iguchi from 2007.
SS- Juan Uribe from 2007: Juan Uribe's 2007 was bad enough that the team would trade Jon Garland for Orlando Cabrera during the offseason and put Juan Uribe on waivers. Uribe hit .234/.284/.394 despite his 20 homeruns. He also struck out 112 times compared to a meager 34 walks. Even his usually stellar defense slipped during the season, completely negating his worth. The season was bad enough to somehow beat out two seasons of Royce Clayton. Close competition: Juan Uribe from 2006.
3B- Josh Fields from 2007: This one might seem a little weird, but hear me out. Yes, he did manage to hit 23 homeruns and finish seventh in the AL RotY voting. But his horrific .308 OBP, bad defense, and 0.28 BB/K wipe those big flies out. Two seasons later, the former OSU quarterback would be shipped off to the Kansas City Royals along with Chris Getz for Mark Teahen. It's sad when a career year happens at age 24, but it looks like that is exactly what happened to the 18th overall pick from the 2004 draft. Close competition: Herbert Perry from 2001 and Joe Crede from 2004.
LF- Scott Podsednik from 2006: From a World Series hero to reviled leadoff hitter all in the span of one year. Podsednik would hit .261/.330/.353 and lead the league in times caught stealing with 19. He played average, if not maddening, defense. He winds up taking this position because Carlos Lee and Carlos Quentin were much better hitters, despite their defensive shortcomings. Close Competition: Carlos Quentin from 2009.
CF- Nick Swisher from 2008: It wouldn't be an Anti-All Star team without Mr. Awesome himself making an appearence. Swisher had the only below average season of his career on the South Side, hitting .219/.332/.410 with bad defense. Swish fell apart in the second half and as soon as hit bat stopped producing, his outgoing personality grew tiresome rapidly in the clubhouse and the media. This caused the terrible trade to the New York Yankees for Wilson Betemit, Jeff Marquez, and Jhonny Nunez. Close competition: Brian Anderson in 2006 and Jerry Owens in 2007.
RF- Jermaine Dye from 2009: Yet another fallen hero in the outfield. In what is beginning to look like his final season, age and injuries finally caught up with Jermaine Dye. The wheels completely fell off in the second half, as he somehow hit an abysmal .179/.293/.297. When you combine that with his historically bad defense and you get a potentially career ending season. The horrible defense and complete drop off a cliff forced me to choose him over the hated Joe Borchard.
DH- Carl Everett from 2005: Surprised to see a player from the World Series Championship team make the list? I was too at first. But think about who his competition is: Frank Thomas, Jim Thome, and Jose Canseco. Two Hall of Famers and a Hall of Very Gooder. Jurassic Carl's .745 OPS was the lowest mark of all the DHs the White Sox employed that decade.
Thanks for following me in this fairly pointless exercise and feel free to argue with my choices/belittle me in the comments.
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why didn't it include 2010?
I would take swisher over anderson….. dye over borchard…. and Uribe over clayton.
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ladies and gentlemen, the man educating your children.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Dec 23, 2010 12:31 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
i guess there's an argument that could be made, so i'll let it slide.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Dec 23, 2010 12:34 AM CST up reply actions
By the time the kids make it to his school, they usually already subscribe to the Ozzie DH plan.
busy weaving laurel wreath for k dawg and JR. These guys are straight up gangsta this year. -LT_sox_fan on Dec 15, 2010
by South Side Expat on Dec 23, 2010 3:02 AM CST up reply actions
if the list is worst of the aughts, right?
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Dec 23, 2010 12:36 AM CST up reply actions
it should have
and i’ve basically had the entire thing written since then, but never got around to actually finishing it. figured now was as good a time as any. i wanted to pick borchard over dye, but just couldn’t do it. that second half was so bad.
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
at least he had a good 1st half though..
borchard was never good besides one swing vs. the phillies.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Recollections from the pre-Pierzynski era really help me appreciate that guy.
What a wasteland that position was. God Almighty.
"It's like an elephant rodeo in there."
Completely agree
AJ can be frustrating at times, but Ben Davis……Shudders
by Akronsoxfan on Dec 23, 2010 12:20 AM CST up reply actions
We had C. Johnson for a bit in 2000... he was good
but before that there was a 40 year old tony pena, a 38 year old charlie obrien, mark johnson, Brook Fordyce (some people liked him), Jorge Fabragas…. Olivo was a lot better than those guys… but yah as much as I don’t like AJ he is much better than the alternatives. I still miss Karko
Kenwo4life=ratings
Yeah, Fordyce was decent enough.
busy weaving laurel wreath for k dawg and JR. These guys are straight up gangsta this year. -LT_sox_fan on Dec 15, 2010
by South Side Expat on Dec 23, 2010 3:07 AM CST up reply actions
Agreed.
But also look at CF. We had to spend a ton of $ to fill in that gaping pothole.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
AG is tied for the third worst fWAR in the UZR era with his -2.1 in '07
only Neifi Perez and Tony Womack have worse qualifying scores. his performance was synchedochic of the whole 2007 experience.
Fireworks: Bang?
he was our icarus.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Dec 23, 2010 12:33 AM CST up reply actions
In terms of OPS+
He’s the worst White Sox player to receive 200+ PAs in most of our lifetimes.
THIS NEW ARRANGEMENT SHOULD BE POOTY GOO
by Jim Margalus on Dec 23, 2010 12:33 AM CST up reply actions
I have no idea what synchedochic means, if that's even a real word, but I agree. Andy needs to be on this list.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 1:02 AM CST up reply actions
well i spelled it wrong, but if you can't turn synecdoche into an adjective
i don’t want to be right.
Fireworks: Bang?
he was awful
beyond awful even, but he wasn’t the main starter at any position. i wanted to limit it to those players. if i added a spot for utility guy, he’d be on it.
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
Between Angel and Alex Cintron
that was a whole lot of bad in the IF in 2007 – Cintron couldn’t get the ball to 1B on less than 3 hops. Danny “The Rocket” Richar was right there with them too.
"You could see Dunn's home run from Russia!"
by blackoutsox on Dec 15, 2010 1:28 PM EST
I remember when he went on the DL in August
and snuck off to Puerto Rico for a month, then came back jacking the ball 40 rows up the bleachers. There was a man who did whatever it would take to keep his career alive, you have to admire that.
"You could see Dunn's home run from Russia!"
by blackoutsox on Dec 15, 2010 1:28 PM EST
He went to the Sammy Sosa Rehab Clinic?
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
b-r's replacement level is higher
so they’re going to have more guys with negative WAR and bigger negative scores
Fireworks: Bang?
Well, Andy Gonzalez was -1.2 in 2007 by bWAR
it’s just that they have different systems, mainly due to the defense. I don’t think they’re replacement level is significantly different, though I do know that bWAR is more conservative, at least at the high extremes.
AG was a guy you didn't need stats to see that he was horrible
the ol’ eye test was good enough.
what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM
you know... i always cheered for andy gonzalez.
i know he sucked but I kind of liked him. I also like SSS favorite guys to hate Timo Perez and Pablo Ozuna.
Absolutely hated Brian Daubach, Armando Rios, Luis Terrero and you all obviously know of my disdain for Mackowiak.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Why did you like him? He was good for nothing between the lines.
How could you hate the Belleville Basher!?!
what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM
no idea why i liked him.
daubach was brutal. i wish we had someone else in 2003 to fill in for Konerko’s major suck fest. Daubach was just as bad.
Of course you have to go back to the mid 90s for my 2 favorite bench players….. Warren Deacon Newson and Norberto Paco Martin. Mad love for both of them!
Kenwo4life=ratings
I liked the Deacon...for some reason I liked Mike Huff
what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM
Ross Gload and Brian Anderson were my bench guys I liked
out of the pen, Kelly Wunsch.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
You know why.
Well, you’ve not met e-g. When you do, you’ll know.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
President of the Ross Gload fan club right here.
At least in my mind.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
I'll allow it.
No ageism in this administration.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
I loved Pablo
because of his stealing home, his walk-off bunt single, his ground ball double up the middle. Plus in ’06 he was hitting like .400 for a while. BABIP must have been insane.
"And he rips one into left! Konerko, grand slam!" —Joe Buck, 22 Oct 2005
Don't forget
throwing out Sean Casey from left
To me, clowns aren't funny. In fact, they're kind of scary. I've wondered where this started and I think it goes back to the time I went to the circus, and a clown killed my dad.
by TheIronSchenk on Dec 23, 2010 4:41 PM CST up reply actions
I remember being at a friend's house and seeing that on Gameday.
“Sean Casey grounds out, third baseman Joe Crede to left fielder Pablo Ozuna to first baseman Paul Konerko.” Whaaaat?
"And he rips one into left! Konerko, grand slam!" —Joe Buck, 22 Oct 2005
I liked Pablo too
he was pretty fun to watch.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 23, 2010 4:15 PM CST up reply actions
I would give strong consideration to Royce Clayton's 2001 at short.
Especially when considering the shape of it. They moved a far better player (Jose Valentin) to make room for him, and he responded by hitting .115/.167/.154 over the first two months.
He had a strong second half to salvage his season, but then he had a worse year in 2002. But 2001 sticks in my craw more.
THIS NEW ARRANGEMENT SHOULD BE POOTY GOO
Agreed. I was a fairly novice baseball fan at the time but I remember cursing Royce Clayton non-stop.
The papers and ESPN 1000 led me to believe Valentin sucked at defense thanks to the errors but that was a colossal downgrade.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 23, 2010 12:59 AM CST up reply actions
I fuck'n love Herbert Perry
"There's too many (bleeping) guys on the computer. It's simple. I say that. Pete Rose never watched a computer. Rod Carew never did. All those hitters, they go out and see the ball, hit it and move on." - Ozzie
No way. BA's 2006 was way worse than Swisher's 2008.
by WAR, OPS+, wOBA, whatever. Swisher’s defense was worse, but Anderson’s bat was historically horrific.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 12:52 AM CST reply actions
id be willing to take anderson over mackowiak if we are choosing cf's from 06.
but yah… even though swish is a jag… he was better.
Kenwo4life=ratings
No way. BA's 2006 was way worse than Swisher's 2008.
by WAR, OPS+, wOBA, whatever. Swisher’s defense was worse, but Anderson’s bat was historically horrific.
Also, there needs to be a “UTIL -” and in that slot needs to be Andy Gonzalez.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
Agreed. This list is not complete without Andy.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 1:03 AM CST up reply actions
If you're going to have Erstad, you gotta have Andy.
Erstad put up 0.5 WAR in about half a season. That’s nowhere near Andy Gonzalez bad.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 1:11 AM CST up reply actions
For fun, go look up Erstad's 2000 season:
http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=11&position=1B/OF
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 1:13 AM CST up reply actions
link fail.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 1:14 AM CST up reply actions
oh absolutely. dude was a player for a little while.
unfortunately it was well before 2007
Kenwo4life=ratings
he could still play good enough defense.
he just never should have been a starter. or a leadoff hitter.
So, the entirety of the 2007 White Sox outfield?
Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 23, 2010 10:40 AM CST up reply actions
Everyone get in line behind Scott Linebrink and Dewon Day.
"Let's go, go, go, go White Sox, although you're 4 and 8. Your offense is anemic and you can't score runs. And you can't even beat the Cleveland Indiuns." April 2010
lest we forget mike macdougal
by Akronsoxfan on Dec 23, 2010 2:32 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
pretty scary that of the 5 pitchers listed 4 were from 07.
i pray that never happens again.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Not really scary
But actually good. For Chicago baseball it was a fantastic decade and dare I say successful?
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
by Tdogg on Dec 23, 2010 8:02 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
well thats true.
but that year was so damn bad that it still hurts when i see the names listed.
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So Mr. Bukvich how would you describe yourself as a pitcher?,
“Right-handed’
2011 WhiteSox Baseball: we're all in
by OznCoop on Dec 23, 2010 8:59 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
as pitifully bad as he was pitching
he was even worse of a driver. I was driving to a charity event where bukvich was one of the guests…. i had a small case of road rage against his dumb ass…. after some horn honking and bird flying we parked in the same lot and I realized it was him. What a prick.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Sadly, you probably pitch better than him too
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions
Not technically inaccurate....
Although ‘bad and right-handed’ would have been a better answer.
Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 23, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions
Todd Ritchie.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 12:44 PM CST up reply actions
Arnie Munoz
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
DAN WRIGHT
"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."
by boyonthedock on Dec 23, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
he was the worst player to make 30 starts for the white sox this decade
ERA of 5.65 and FIP of 5.55 just barely beats out Jim PArque and the starting resume of rocky biddle.
"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."
by boyonthedock on Dec 23, 2010 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
i got a kick out of telling cub fans that kerry wood can't even win more games than danny wright
it still applies. they both maxed out at 14 wins.
Kenwo4life=ratings
geeze we've had a lot of bad pitchers
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
a lot of good ones too, to be fair.
"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."
by boyonthedock on Dec 23, 2010 5:33 PM CST up reply actions
Todd Ritchie was the first name that came to my mind
I would recommend putting all your thoughts together, then dumping them all out into one solidified stool.
-Shoeless In SC
blah hated wells.
very early in the 2001 season i took a trip to the metrodome and the sox got off to a big lead (including one of the longest homers i saw frank thomas hit)….. so me and a few of my guys started running our mouths early….. it was just a matter of time before this fat bastard gave the lead right back up and the sox lost causing us major embarrassment. he ruined my night.
Kenwo4life=ratings
If that was the worst memory you have of 2001,
mazeltov.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
you are trying to bait me into a political/conspiracy discussion!
I’m not falling for it. haha
Kenwo4life=ratings
I had JUST blocked him out of my memory.
Thanks a lot.
"And he rips one into left! Konerko, grand slam!" —Joe Buck, 22 Oct 2005
Nothing says Christmas like shitty memories and crappy gifts!
"You People Disgust Me" - TAEG
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 23, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
What is the holiday season without bringing up past emotional trauma?
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 23, 2010 1:10 PM CST up reply actions
Mike MacDougal is the final reliever for our 2009 Opening Day roster.
Yes, he IS still on the team, for some reason.
"And he rips one into left! Konerko, grand slam!" —Joe Buck, 22 Oct 2005
"Coop can fix anyone/everyone."
Plus, his contract was substantial, IIRC.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
i always thought macdougal would figure something out.
that guy had so many at-bats where he was unhittable. too bad he could never put it together.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
Yep.
Held it together for Washington for a little while. You can only play above your head for so long.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
those guys that can't repeat their mechanics are just brutal.
sometimes they seem like a revelation. sometimes they’re the arsonist.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
Your second favorite kind!
"It's like an elephant rodeo in there."
by RWShow on Dec 24, 2010 10:42 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
if people seem interested in it
i’ll have it posted next thursday
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
will do
i think i’ll set an innings floor at either 100 or 120 IP for starters and 30 or 40 IP for relievers.
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
PS
As a Toastmaster, allow me to critique one phrase: Never, EVER use “without further ado”. EVER. Stay away from cliches, especially when you are FP’ed.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
"Eliminating the ado".
Like “eliminating” waste. ;)
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions
so much fucking ado up till then. i'm glad he'd had enough.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
I would change the entire outfield
Dye had a MVP level first half of a season before his sudden collapse, and he carried us. Carlos on the other hand, was depended on to carry the offense and failed immensely. Brian Anderson should go over Swisher, he was expected to take over center field but the king of spring never made it in the big times. Swisher was actually pretty good for us for 4 months before his off-field issues mounted. I think people would lean towards those who produced better on field despite returns in the trades. My outfield would be Carlos Quentin, Brian Anderson and Darin Erstad.
and Andy Gonzalez can take up the entire infield for all I care. hell he can take up the whole antistar team.
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
the drunk driver who killed Adenhart and several others got 51 years
http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/12/22/california.sentencing.drunken.driver/index.html?hpt=T2
If theres one thing in the world I dont have tolerance for, Its drunk drivers. and this is a UG post so I thought it was ok.
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
i think that counts as one of the inside jokes we're trying to get away from
and posting this link is fine (i think). it is semi-baseball related, but it is destined to go off-topic.
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
We spent a significant amount of time on the subject when Adenhart was killed
and gave our support to Halos Heaven (at least I did, and I know others went on the site) so I believe the link is appropriate. If we went to include GiT’s philosophy that would probably be RR material because of the “inside” nature of the material.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
yeah
the inside joke part i was referring to was the old “U-God’s posts are the Wild, Wild West for commenting”. jim is civilizing the west.
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
OK, thanks.
I missed that part and frankly didn’t understand the inside piece. And if the guy with 40K posts doesn’t get the inside nature of the comment how in the hell are newbies going to figure it out?
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
You ever read Cormac McCarthy?
All his books, excepting The Road, are about the end of the American west and the people who struggle adapting in the burgeoning modern world.
what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM
And so the OT discussion blossoms :)
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
This isn't off topic...I was saying some people will struggle to adapt to the modernized SSS thats all.
what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM
Just like Encino Man!
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 10:15 AM CST up reply actions
Shoooooosh!
what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM
Is that like a whoosh catered specifically for me, Shoeless?
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
No its what that douchbag in Encino Man does on stage at Prom, expecting people to quiet down.
what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM
Oh. Shall we see how long we can discuss Brandon Fraser movies before we get a warning?
There was the Scout, ya know. That was baseball related.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 10:36 AM CST up reply actions
Come on, man...
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
If thats how things are...christ...this sucks
what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM
by Rhubarb on Dec 23, 2010 10:28 AM CST up reply actions 5 recs
All I'm saying is tighten it up a bit.
It’s the first day, fer Chrissakes. Embrace the tiger.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
I like the fact that you have embraced the role of "mean" parent
Everyone else can be the “cool” one. sweet.
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
that it, you're grounded.
go to your room/
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
"Parent?"
Lord, no.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
The oldest of the siblings?
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
pervy uncle, duh
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
I thought that was Rhubarb.
There should only be one pervy uncle per family.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions
Why cuz I patted greenlight on the ass?
what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM
by Rhubarb on Dec 23, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
this is entirely too far off topic
what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM
It was a question not an answer...big difference slugger.
what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM
i suggest you write - in a mccarthy stylee - about how you are now on your own in the sss wilderness.
How about if I never appear ever again?
what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM
Are you being sensitive
or being a goofball? Either way, it does not become you.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
Swiss or beige.
Either way, I can dig it.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
i hope to find blood meridian under the tree saturday
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
Under the Suttree?
You’ll like the judge, I mean Satan.
what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM
very excited for it
gonna be pissed if it isn’t there. i generally ask for one book each year and am yet to be disappointed.
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
Yeah... although it's usually so exaggerated
I can’t imagine anyone but the most naive new person would think I’m actually serious about supporting drinking and driving.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 23, 2010 1:13 PM CST up reply actions
He won't serve nearly that many
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions
The sad part is how many positions have such marvelously awful competition.
1B seems to be the only position where we have not fielded someone who truly killed our hopes and dreams for an entire year for more than 1 year (well, maybe 2B, but Gooch’s ‘07 wasn’t pretty). And the fallout is the rotation of dunces to fill those positions the following year. C, CF, SS, and 3B have been too often black holes of despair.
Our pitching has been amazing,eh? Gotta be the reason we’ve been quite competitive over the decade.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
this is where i say,
as clearly as i possibly can, fuck nick swisher.
"when the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea." ~~cantona
This is a fine All-Suck squad.
The funny thing is…most of the players on this list had decent years…they weren’t the dregs of MLB…well maybe Ben Davis. I too, nominate Andy Gonzalez for a super-utility role.
what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM
Players that never had decent years usually don't stick around long enough as starters to qualify for a list like this
No team would have stuck with a never-was that hit like 2009 Dye.
Right
You have to earn the right have a “prolonged” bad spell.
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
True.
what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM
So why did Brian Anderson get the shot in 2006?
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 10:06 AM CST up reply actions
Clearly.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
He earned it when he played in West Coast at any level (minors, ST, Seattle, etc.).
Fixed.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 10:10 AM CST up reply actions
I can't think about Brian Anderson without thinking about Ryan Sweeney.
I was really pulling for the kid. He had the build to be something special. He was freakishly big. But he could never really hit for power in Charlotte or the Cell, and that’s saying something for someone his size.
I had a bit of a mancrush on him, I admit. FNS.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions
He's now a 4th-5th OF for Oakland. Oakland!
Let him go, man. It’s over.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions
Yes, but he could be a 4th-5th OF for us, dammit. He looked so good in those White Sox necklaces.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 10:18 AM CST up reply actions
let it go.
learn to love yourself and you’ll find you can love another again. Alex Rios is a good man.
Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 23, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions
he's like the 7th OF in Oakland now.
Coco Crisp
David DeJesus
Josh Willingham
Conor Jackson
Hideki MAtsui
Michael Taylor
Ryan Sweeney
He could be had pretty cheap I bet.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
I'd prefer Conor Jackson, history of playing time be damned.
Him and Q! might be able to pull together for a full season.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
Matsui in OF?
Maybe not.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions
I said 7 off the top of my head
then I had to stretch when I actually looked.
I hate you!
/slams door
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
OK, that made me spit up.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
I like where you're going with this.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
Hah
the Willingham trade must have slipped by during finals week. I had no idea.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 23, 2010 4:23 PM CST up reply actions
plus I would rather have Anderson then let Ozzie discover the temptation
that is Kotsay
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
His defense is very good
he’s starter level if, IF, he stays healthy.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 23, 2010 4:22 PM CST up reply actions
his playing time has been cut for reasons not related to health
that said, sweeney plus a caddy would be better production than we’ve averaged since his departure in CF.
Fireworks: Bang?
His performance was above average for two years
and all of a sudden his range was shot. I’m not going very far out on a limb by saying there’s a connection between that and his knee problems.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 23, 2010 5:19 PM CST up reply actions
i'm sure his knee being healthy is key to his defense
i hope you’re not divining that w/ a half a season of UZR. FSR, for instance, didn’t think anything was wrong with his D.
Fireworks: Bang?
Then he was a good player worthy of starting on many teams, right?
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 23, 2010 8:41 PM CST up reply actions
i wish i could keep myself from ending up playing semantics
but you’d think oakland would be a team he could get 600 PA from.
Fireworks: Bang?
You don't have to fix it.
Players can earn prolonged looks by big name prospect status.
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
Whosh.
No kidding.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 11:04 AM CST up reply actions
"This one might seem a little weird, but hear me out."
Re: Fields — No need. His power was a nice tease in a dismal 2007, but I’ll never forget watching him flail at fastballs up in the zone, down in the zone, in the middle of the zone, inside, outside, etc.
I thought he was starting to come around in September, when he had a 14/23 BB/K after a 5/43 in August. Oy vey.
I remember seeing him hit a Grand Slam in the 9th inning vs. Putz in 2007
It was the only time I’ve sat in the scout seats. It made the game interesting but we still lost of course.
what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM
Similar to Jayson Nix last year in Tampa.
Blind pig…
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions
What does a blind pig find?
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions
Acorn.
Or ratings, I forget.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions
Andy Gonzalez
I agee with those that named AG. He was one of the worst Sox 3rd basemen of All-Time let alone the decade!!
He was the worst everything
The only positions he didn’t play in 2007 were P and C.
what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM
It's a shame that Darin Erstad couldn't win a position in 2007,
since I had to suffer through it (and Hawk’s description of it) in 87 games. I remember a lot of that .310 OBP coming in the lead off position, as well. Damn, I hated 2007.
"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote
I blame 2007 for SSS nearing 'the abyss'
we were forced to talk about other things.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
I'm still blown away by the "abyss" thing. Seriously, come on.
"It's like an elephant rodeo in there."
A rainbow is made with tears and light.
The light was Beckham.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
Palehose 7 was some pretty good stuff.
I still have my t-shirt. Somewhere…
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
I remember Hawk's quote about Erstad:
“Here’s a guy that’s hitting .163 as he stands up to the dish, and I am just so happy he’s here.”
THIS NEW ARRANGEMENT SHOULD BE POOTY GOO
by Jim Margalus on Dec 23, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions
Excellent.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
Said the same thing 3 years later.
I hope someone forces hawk to learn what WAR and OPS are, the O.P.oS.
Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 23, 2010 1:49 PM CST up reply actions
I'm sure he knows what OPS is
but hawk is old school. the rest of that crap (uzr, fip, war etc etc) no chance. He would probably die from it. Do you want Hawk to die? I don’t. Leave him be. lol
Kenwo4life=ratings
I bet Hawk is more open to them than you'd think.
When I was a kid Hawk used to say something along the lines of, one day there will be a stat which takes all aspects of the game into consideration which we’ll be able to use in comparing players. He was right.
wins?
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Dec 23, 2010 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
For pitchers, yes.
Batting average for hitters.
If is is one handed shitting. by winningugly
by mick10 on Dec 23, 2010 2:35 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Don't tell him what a guy hits.
Tell him when he hits it.
Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 23, 2010 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
He was also the first to recognize that an offense was only as good as a team's bullpen.
If is is one handed shitting. by winningugly
Cool Ugod
but Cmon man, where or where is the Anti All star team manager????
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
Does this include pitching, hitting, bench, and third base coaches?
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions
Joey Cora for third base coach and bench coach!
Harold might have to get 1st base coach- they had their amazing run as soon as he went out for hip surgery.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
Cora was like a windmill over there
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 2:17 PM CST up reply actions
Razor Shines!
At least he went on to better things….
www.3rdbasecoachoflife.com
I shant be misled a second time
"Did you have a good experience with the White Sox?" was my yes/no.
Answer: “That answer can be found on MLB.com.” Hmmm.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
Wow my memory is getting bad
I had Bevington in mind when I posted this forgetting that was much longer ago. Uncle Jerry really doesn’t get rid of managers eh?
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
Manuel in 2003 was pretty bad
Starting Cotts over Buehrle in Yankee Stadium, and paying the price for exiling Foulke by suffering through Koch.
THIS NEW ARRANGEMENT SHOULD BE POOTY GOO
by Jim Margalus on Dec 23, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
Just thinking about that Cotts-Buehrle debacle still frosts my ass. That was a forfeit, plainly and simply.
Gahhhh! That was insane.
"It's like an elephant rodeo in there."
That was painful to watch, I remember it well. 5 runs in the first inning. ooooooooof.
I hated Manuel’s apparent lack of passion, and emotionless observance of the game. Ozzie may be a crazypants, but at least there is no doubt that his heart is invested in every game (Sundays aside of course, heh).
A 2003 managing moment that could have rrreally bitten Manuel in the ass, but turned out to be a moment of genius instead: pinch-hitting Paulie with 2 outs in the 11th on July 2nd.
biceps-deep in fungible pumpkins.
by homesickalien on Dec 25, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions
Fregosi as manager.
Hands down.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
Oops.
I mixed my Nordy game with U-God. Sorry.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
Who was the pitching coach before Cooper? Contreras something?
I didn’t like his face.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 23, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
the before and after Coop is remarkable.
in the 10 years before Coop, i don’t think they had a season above 16 WAR from the starters.
Fireworks: Bang?
any idea what his contract status is? that's one guy that i'd hate to lose.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
none, and google/g-news didn't show much either
i’m guessing he’s part of the JR family. he’s part of the brain trust if KW quotes are to be believed.
and yeah Coop might be the most valuable part of the brain trust. in the very least, he should make more than Ozzie.
Fireworks: Bang?
He's probably got John Paxson status. As long as Coop wants a job, Reinsdorf will oblige him.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 23, 2010 3:30 PM CST up reply actions
i hope it's more like as long as Coop's alive, Reinsdorf will beg him to coach
his pitchers.
Fireworks: Bang?
he has been with the organization in some capacity since 1988 i believe.
im sure there is a sense of loyalty on both sides.
Kenwo4life=ratings
"I believe" roughly translates into
“I looked him up on Wikipedia.”
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 23, 2010 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
Wasn't he the one that forced Thornton and Santos into the equation?
I have to imagine he’s been the one to convince KW to get many other pitchers who flipped a switch with them.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 23, 2010 4:28 PM CST up reply actions
i don't think "forced" is the right term
KW is pretty open to Coop’s suggestions and has been for a while.
Fireworks: Bang?
Contract is up after this year.
THIS NEW ARRANGEMENT SHOULD BE POOTY GOO
by Jim Margalus on Dec 23, 2010 4:41 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I think Ozzie and his coaches all get the same extensions when its time
so that would make sense
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
Listening to Coop on WSCR all season, he aint leaving unless JR shoots his dog.
"You People Disgust Me" - TAEG
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 23, 2010 8:32 PM CST up reply actions
where or where?
what the hell kind of a choice is that?
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
thanks
figured it was prolly a little too high school for most to catch, but fit the theme perfectly
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
Cute without the "e" would have been a good title too, given the nature of the people in the list
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 9:46 PM CST up reply actions
and i thank you for helping me pick next week's title
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
Love that song. Brings back memories of sophomore year of college
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 10:11 PM CST up reply actions
Timberwolves at New Jersey
Not just a shitty NBA game.
Anyways, 5 Schrutebucks your way for any future TBS articles.
Caruso - 1999
just missed the list, but would have won hands down.
.250/.280/.297. He stole 12 bases on 26 attempts.
-2.7 fWAR
And Manuel gave him 564 PAs. Dark days….
I shant be misled a second time
I remember he was hitting around .300 for a lot of that season
That really demonstrated to me that batting average is not a great stat
In 98 he finished .306/.331/.390
had 22 stolen bases, 5 homers, 55 rbi’s and a 2.3 WAR in his rookie season. 1999 he fell off the map and didn’t resurface again besides the 2-20 he posted for the 2002 royals.
Kenwo4life=ratings
i submit, at catcher, one mark johnson in 2002:
.209/.297/.293
pretty awesome.
by obnoxious american on Dec 23, 2010 1:55 PM CST reply actions
ehh, continuing reading the article helps to see he was mentioned.
starting out under the new regime with a bang. well, i contributed the slash line at least.
by obnoxious american on Dec 23, 2010 2:00 PM CST up reply actions
And then when they flip Beltre, Soriano, LaRoche, Pods and Vlad at the deadline
they’d bring in all sorts of prospects to build up their farm system. Maybe in a year or two, they’d be a real contender. Shame what’s happened to baseball in that city.
Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 23, 2010 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
Hey Andruw Jones is starting!
I would recommend putting all your thoughts together, then dumping them all out into one solidified stool.
-Shoeless In SC
The bullpen would be great
but the defense on that team is pretty abysmal. And the SP looks like something the Brewers trotted out the last 2 years, which is to say not good at all.
flagged
get your off topic out of here. And i better not hear a peep about this christmas out of any of you knuckleheads either.
"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."
by boyonthedock on Dec 23, 2010 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
I hate Christmas.
No baseball.
"And he rips one into left! Konerko, grand slam!" —Joe Buck, 22 Oct 2005
by mikecws91 on Dec 23, 2010 6:40 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Every time I log in all new comments aren't yellow as if I already read them.
This happening to anyone else?
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
thats classified
but I heard Rex Ryan thinks his kicker does.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
and they look green to me
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
a one time superhero
at least he went out with a bang
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
seems to be fine now.
weiirds
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
looking at that cavalcade of CF fail
even without having to mention Erstad or Mackowiak, it’s just so good to have Rios.
How is it that I really don’t recall much about Ben Davis?
"Hawk Harrelson: Annoying even the hearing impaired": Teahenny Penny paraphrasing Chisoxfan1473
by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 23, 2010 7:54 PM CST reply actions
probably because there isn't much to remember
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
Pierzynski took his job.
THIS NEW ARRANGEMENT SHOULD BE POOTY GOO
by Jim Margalus on Dec 23, 2010 8:43 PM CST up reply actions
and i'm not sorry neither
I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR MY BEHAVIOR!! I DAYDREAM WITH THE BEST OF THEM.......
by pierzynskirules on Dec 23, 2010 9:04 PM CST up reply actions
in the year 44 AD - Cladius returned to rome in triumph after conquering the South East of Brittania
And leading to the civilisation of our great island. What happened in your country in this year?
I won’t hold my breath waiting for an answer.
by hoodlight on Dec 24, 2010 10:14 AM CST via mobile reply actions
people roamed freely, ignorant of the yoke of tyranny that was a millenium and a half away from royally fucking them up.
And they also probably posted on the correct thread.
THIS NEW ARRANGEMENT SHOULD BE POOTY GOO
by Jim Margalus on Dec 24, 2010 11:53 AM CST up reply actions 5 recs
you and i had the same amount of influence on that historical occurrence. would you like to be congratulated?
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
And when he returned to Rome, he said...
What a fffffffffffoggy and d…dd….amp p..p..p…lace.
"You People Disgust Me" - TAEG
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 24, 2010 6:03 PM CST up reply actions

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