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A Decade Under The Influence: A Chicago White Sox Anti-All Star Team

During the winter you tend to see a rather large amount of SBN sites throw up Top 100 (insert team name here) of All Time lists.  This seemed like quite the tall task, so I decided to go a different route with it.  I have assembled an Anti-All Star team for the Chicago White Sox, using only players from the 2000-2009 seasons.  For a player to be eligible for a spot on the team, they must have played the lion's share of the team's total innings at said position that year.  Understand?  Good.  This team is probably not for those with weak stomachs or a predisposition to PTSD.  Without further ado, I give you the worst starting position players the Pale Hose had to offer in the 00's.

Star-divide

C- Ben Davis from 2004: Somehow Ben Davis managed to lead the team in innings caught even though he joined the White Sox on June 27.  The lesser half of the Freddy Garcia trade, Davis managed to be worth 0.1 WAR in his 54 games.  He hit .231/.276/.400 with 6 homeruns, 9 walks, and 40 strikeouts.  Davis would never play in the majors again and now pitches for the Camden River Sharks of the Atlantic League.  Close competition: Sandy Alomar Jr from 2001 and Mark Johnson from 2002.

1B- Paul Konerko from 2003: Paul Konerko won his spot on the team by default, as no player has recorded more time at first base in a season than him since before he joined the team in 1999.  It also wan't hard to pick which season of his would earn the title.  In his age 27 season, usually a player's peak season, Konerko managed to have his worst.  Maybe it was his participation in the 2002 Home Run Derby that caused him to have such a terrible first half the next season (.197/.267/.300).  His BABIP was .059 lower than his career norm despite a respectable 22.9% LD%.  Hindsight allows us to see his 2003 season for the fluke that it was, but it was one hell of a fluke.

2B- D'Angelo Jimenez from 2003: Poor D'Angelo Jimenez.   His 2003 season wasn't even actually that bad (.255/..322/.410), but life isn't easy when you are facing off against guys like Ray Durham, Tadahito Iguchi, and Alexei Ramirez.  Jimenez hit 7 homeruns in his half-season with the White Sox that year before being traded to the Cincinnati Reds for Scott Dunn, a pitcher who would never play for Chicago but would turn into Scott Schoeneweis.  Close competition: Tadahito Iguchi from 2007.

SS- Juan Uribe from 2007:  Juan Uribe's 2007 was bad enough that the team would trade Jon Garland for Orlando Cabrera during the offseason and put Juan Uribe on waivers.  Uribe hit .234/.284/.394 despite his 20 homeruns.  He also struck out 112 times compared to a meager 34 walks.  Even his usually stellar defense slipped during the season, completely negating his worth.  The season was bad enough to somehow beat out two seasons of Royce Clayton.  Close competition: Juan Uribe from 2006.

3B- Josh Fields from 2007: This one might seem a little weird, but hear me out.  Yes, he did manage to hit 23 homeruns and finish seventh in the AL RotY voting.  But his horrific .308 OBP, bad defense, and 0.28 BB/K wipe those big flies out.  Two seasons later, the former OSU quarterback would be shipped off to the Kansas City Royals along with Chris Getz  for Mark Teahen.  It's sad when a career year happens at age 24, but it looks like that is exactly what happened to the 18th overall pick from the 2004 draft.  Close competition: Herbert Perry from 2001 and Joe Crede from 2004.

LF- Scott Podsednik from 2006: From a World Series hero to reviled leadoff hitter all in the span of one year.  Podsednik would hit .261/.330/.353 and lead the league in times caught stealing with 19.  He played average, if not maddening, defense.  He winds up taking this position because Carlos Lee and Carlos Quentin were much better hitters, despite their defensive shortcomings.  Close Competition: Carlos Quentin from 2009.

CF- Nick Swisher from 2008: It wouldn't be an Anti-All Star team without Mr. Awesome himself making an appearence.  Swisher had the only below average season of his career on the South Side, hitting .219/.332/.410 with bad defense.  Swish fell apart in the second half and as soon as hit bat stopped producing, his outgoing personality grew tiresome rapidly in the clubhouse and the media.  This caused the terrible trade to the New York Yankees for Wilson Betemit, Jeff Marquez, and Jhonny Nunez.  Close competition: Brian Anderson in 2006 and Jerry Owens in 2007.

RF- Jermaine Dye from 2009: Yet another fallen hero in the outfield.  In what is beginning to look like his final season, age and injuries finally caught up with Jermaine Dye.  The wheels completely fell off in the second half, as he somehow hit an abysmal .179/.293/.297.  When you combine that with his historically bad defense and you get a potentially career ending season.  The horrible defense and complete drop off a cliff forced me to choose him over the hated Joe Borchard.

DH- Carl Everett from 2005: Surprised to see a player from the World Series Championship team make the list?  I was too at first.  But think about who his competition is: Frank Thomas, Jim Thome, and Jose Canseco.  Two Hall of Famers and a Hall of Very Gooder.  Jurassic Carl's .745 OPS was the lowest mark of all the DHs the White Sox employed that decade.  

 

Thanks for following me in this fairly pointless exercise and feel free to argue with my choices/belittle me in the comments.

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why didn't it include 2010?

I would take swisher over anderson….. dye over borchard…. and Uribe over clayton.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 23, 2010 12:13 AM CST up reply actions  

i guess there's an argument that could be made, so i'll let it slide.

Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.

by MarketMaker on Dec 23, 2010 12:34 AM CST up reply actions  

By the time the kids make it to his school, they usually already subscribe to the Ozzie DH plan.

busy weaving laurel wreath for k dawg and JR. These guys are straight up gangsta this year. -LT_sox_fan on Dec 15, 2010

by South Side Expat on Dec 23, 2010 3:02 AM CST up reply actions  

if the list is worst of the aughts, right?

Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.

by MarketMaker on Dec 23, 2010 12:36 AM CST up reply actions  

well

then it should have been posted last offseason :)

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 23, 2010 12:44 AM CST up reply actions  

it should have

and i’ve basically had the entire thing written since then, but never got around to actually finishing it. figured now was as good a time as any. i wanted to pick borchard over dye, but just couldn’t do it. that second half was so bad.

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Dec 23, 2010 6:45 AM CST up reply actions  

at least he had a good 1st half though..

borchard was never good besides one swing vs. the phillies.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 23, 2010 7:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Recollections from the pre-Pierzynski era really help me appreciate that guy.

What a wasteland that position was. God Almighty.

"It's like an elephant rodeo in there."

by RWShow on Dec 23, 2010 12:15 AM CST reply actions  

Completely agree

AJ can be frustrating at times, but Ben Davis……Shudders

by Akronsoxfan on Dec 23, 2010 12:20 AM CST up reply actions  

We had C. Johnson for a bit in 2000... he was good

but before that there was a 40 year old tony pena, a 38 year old charlie obrien, mark johnson, Brook Fordyce (some people liked him), Jorge Fabragas…. Olivo was a lot better than those guys… but yah as much as I don’t like AJ he is much better than the alternatives. I still miss Karko

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 23, 2010 12:23 AM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, Fordyce was decent enough.

busy weaving laurel wreath for k dawg and JR. These guys are straight up gangsta this year. -LT_sox_fan on Dec 15, 2010

by South Side Expat on Dec 23, 2010 3:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

But also look at CF. We had to spend a ton of $ to fill in that gaping pothole.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 6:34 AM CST up reply actions  

AG is tied for the third worst fWAR in the UZR era with his -2.1 in '07

only Neifi Perez and Tony Womack have worse qualifying scores. his performance was synchedochic of the whole 2007 experience.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 23, 2010 12:31 AM CST up reply actions  

he was our icarus.

Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.

by MarketMaker on Dec 23, 2010 12:33 AM CST up reply actions  

In terms of OPS+

He’s the worst White Sox player to receive 200+ PAs in most of our lifetimes.

THIS NEW ARRANGEMENT SHOULD BE POOTY GOO

by Jim Margalus on Dec 23, 2010 12:33 AM CST up reply actions  

he was awful

beyond awful even, but he wasn’t the main starter at any position. i wanted to limit it to those players. if i added a spot for utility guy, he’d be on it.

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Dec 23, 2010 6:52 AM CST up reply actions  

Between Angel and Alex Cintron

that was a whole lot of bad in the IF in 2007 – Cintron couldn’t get the ball to 1B on less than 3 hops. Danny “The Rocket” Richar was right there with them too.

"You could see Dunn's home run from Russia!"
by blackoutsox on Dec 15, 2010 1:28 PM EST

by ChicagoPete on Dec 23, 2010 9:05 AM CST up reply actions  

ick. alex cintron was pretty bad too.

and i liked it when we acquired him.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 23, 2010 9:06 AM CST up reply actions  

I remember when he went on the DL in August

and snuck off to Puerto Rico for a month, then came back jacking the ball 40 rows up the bleachers. There was a man who did whatever it would take to keep his career alive, you have to admire that.

"You could see Dunn's home run from Russia!"
by blackoutsox on Dec 15, 2010 1:28 PM EST

by ChicagoPete on Dec 23, 2010 9:10 AM CST up reply actions  

He went to the Sammy Sosa Rehab Clinic?

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

b-r's replacement level is higher

so they’re going to have more guys with negative WAR and bigger negative scores

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 23, 2010 1:22 PM CST up reply actions  

Well, Andy Gonzalez was -1.2 in 2007 by bWAR

it’s just that they have different systems, mainly due to the defense. I don’t think they’re replacement level is significantly different, though I do know that bWAR is more conservative, at least at the high extremes.

by kcgard2 on Dec 23, 2010 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

AG was a guy you didn't need stats to see that he was horrible

the ol’ eye test was good enough.

what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM

by Rhubarb on Dec 23, 2010 8:28 AM CST up reply actions  

you know... i always cheered for andy gonzalez.

i know he sucked but I kind of liked him. I also like SSS favorite guys to hate Timo Perez and Pablo Ozuna.

Absolutely hated Brian Daubach, Armando Rios, Luis Terrero and you all obviously know of my disdain for Mackowiak.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 23, 2010 8:45 AM CST up reply actions  

Why did you like him? He was good for nothing between the lines.

How could you hate the Belleville Basher!?!

what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM

by Rhubarb on Dec 23, 2010 8:51 AM CST up reply actions  

no idea why i liked him.

daubach was brutal. i wish we had someone else in 2003 to fill in for Konerko’s major suck fest. Daubach was just as bad.

Of course you have to go back to the mid 90s for my 2 favorite bench players….. Warren Deacon Newson and Norberto Paco Martin. Mad love for both of them!

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 23, 2010 8:57 AM CST up reply actions  

I liked the Deacon...for some reason I liked Mike Huff

what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM

by Rhubarb on Dec 23, 2010 9:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Ross Gload and Brian Anderson were my bench guys I liked

out of the pen, Kelly Wunsch.

i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws

by e-gus on Dec 23, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

You know why.

Well, you’ve not met e-g. When you do, you’ll know.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 1:31 PM CST up reply actions  

President of the Ross Gload fan club right here.

At least in my mind.

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Dec 23, 2010 7:35 PM CST up reply actions  

May I serve in your Cabinet?

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 7:43 PM CST up reply actions  

Or under it?

"It's like an elephant rodeo in there."

by RWShow on Dec 23, 2010 11:24 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll allow it.

No ageism in this administration.

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Dec 23, 2010 11:36 PM CST up reply actions  

I loved Pablo

because of his stealing home, his walk-off bunt single, his ground ball double up the middle. Plus in ’06 he was hitting like .400 for a while. BABIP must have been insane.

"And he rips one into left! Konerko, grand slam!" —Joe Buck, 22 Oct 2005

by mikecws91 on Dec 23, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions  

Don't forget

throwing out Sean Casey from left

To me, clowns aren't funny. In fact, they're kind of scary. I've wondered where this started and I think it goes back to the time I went to the circus, and a clown killed my dad.

by TheIronSchenk on Dec 23, 2010 4:41 PM CST up reply actions  

I remember being at a friend's house and seeing that on Gameday.

“Sean Casey grounds out, third baseman Joe Crede to left fielder Pablo Ozuna to first baseman Paul Konerko.” Whaaaat?

"And he rips one into left! Konerko, grand slam!" —Joe Buck, 22 Oct 2005

by mikecws91 on Dec 23, 2010 6:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I would give strong consideration to Royce Clayton's 2001 at short.

Especially when considering the shape of it. They moved a far better player (Jose Valentin) to make room for him, and he responded by hitting .115/.167/.154 over the first two months.

He had a strong second half to salvage his season, but then he had a worse year in 2002. But 2001 sticks in my craw more.

THIS NEW ARRANGEMENT SHOULD BE POOTY GOO

by Jim Margalus on Dec 23, 2010 12:39 AM CST reply actions  

Agreed. I was a fairly novice baseball fan at the time but I remember cursing Royce Clayton non-stop.

The papers and ESPN 1000 led me to believe Valentin sucked at defense thanks to the errors but that was a colossal downgrade.

by Ozzie Montana on Dec 23, 2010 12:59 AM CST up reply actions  

I fuck'n love Herbert Perry

"There's too many (bleeping) guys on the computer. It's simple. I say that. Pete Rose never watched a computer. Rod Carew never did. All those hitters, they go out and see the ball, hit it and move on." - Ozzie

by usualsuspect on Dec 23, 2010 12:47 AM CST reply actions  

No way. BA's 2006 was way worse than Swisher's 2008.

by WAR, OPS+, wOBA, whatever. Swisher’s defense was worse, but Anderson’s bat was historically horrific.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 12:52 AM CST reply actions  

id be willing to take anderson over mackowiak if we are choosing cf's from 06.

but yah… even though swish is a jag… he was better.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 23, 2010 12:54 AM CST up reply actions  

No way. BA's 2006 was way worse than Swisher's 2008.

by WAR, OPS+, wOBA, whatever. Swisher’s defense was worse, but Anderson’s bat was historically horrific.

Also, there needs to be a “UTIL -” and in that slot needs to be Andy Gonzalez.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 1:01 AM CST reply actions  

Agreed. This list is not complete without Andy.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 1:03 AM CST up reply actions  

If you're going to have Erstad, you gotta have Andy.

Erstad put up 0.5 WAR in about half a season. That’s nowhere near Andy Gonzalez bad.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 1:11 AM CST up reply actions  

link fail.

linky

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 1:14 AM CST up reply actions  

8.8 WAR?

Holy enigma, Batman.

"Let's go, go, go, go White Sox, although you're 4 and 8. Your offense is anemic and you can't score runs. And you can't even beat the Cleveland Indiuns." April 2010

by mikecws91 on Dec 23, 2010 1:54 AM CST up reply actions  

oh absolutely. dude was a player for a little while.

unfortunately it was well before 2007

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 23, 2010 7:37 AM CST up reply actions  

he could still play good enough defense.

he just never should have been a starter. or a leadoff hitter.

by larry on Dec 23, 2010 9:39 AM CST up reply actions  

Everyone get in line behind Scott Linebrink and Dewon Day.

"Let's go, go, go, go White Sox, although you're 4 and 8. Your offense is anemic and you can't score runs. And you can't even beat the Cleveland Indiuns." April 2010

by mikecws91 on Dec 23, 2010 1:55 AM CST up reply actions  

Andy Sisco.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 6:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Not really scary

But actually good. For Chicago baseball it was a fantastic decade and dare I say successful?

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 23, 2010 8:02 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

well thats true.

but that year was so damn bad that it still hurts when i see the names listed.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 23, 2010 8:04 AM CST up reply actions  

as pitifully bad as he was pitching

he was even worse of a driver. I was driving to a charity event where bukvich was one of the guests…. i had a small case of road rage against his dumb ass…. after some horn honking and bird flying we parked in the same lot and I realized it was him. What a prick.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 23, 2010 9:04 AM CST up reply actions  

that's really funny

2011 WhiteSox Baseball: we're all in

by OznCoop on Dec 23, 2010 9:30 AM CST up reply actions  

Sadly, you probably pitch better than him too

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 10:03 AM CST up reply actions  

Not technically inaccurate....

Although ‘bad and right-handed’ would have been a better answer.

Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 23, 2010 10:41 AM CST up reply actions  

Todd Ritchie.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 12:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Arnie Munoz

i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws

by e-gus on Dec 23, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions  

DAN WRIGHT

"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."

by boyonthedock on Dec 23, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions  

he was the worst player to make 30 starts for the white sox this decade

ERA of 5.65 and FIP of 5.55 just barely beats out Jim PArque and the starting resume of rocky biddle.

"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."

by boyonthedock on Dec 23, 2010 1:04 PM CST up reply actions  

Todd Ritchie was the first name that came to my mind

I would recommend putting all your thoughts together, then dumping them all out into one solidified stool.
-Shoeless In SC

by PeejSox on Dec 23, 2010 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

blah hated wells.

very early in the 2001 season i took a trip to the metrodome and the sox got off to a big lead (including one of the longest homers i saw frank thomas hit)….. so me and a few of my guys started running our mouths early….. it was just a matter of time before this fat bastard gave the lead right back up and the sox lost causing us major embarrassment. he ruined my night.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 23, 2010 1:30 PM CST up reply actions  

If that was the worst memory you have of 2001,

mazeltov.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 1:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Just testing. ;)

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

I had JUST blocked him out of my memory.

Thanks a lot.

"And he rips one into left! Konerko, grand slam!" —Joe Buck, 22 Oct 2005

by mikecws91 on Dec 23, 2010 1:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Emotional rape.

It exists.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Mike MacDougal is the final reliever for our 2009 Opening Day roster.

Yes, he IS still on the team, for some reason.

"And he rips one into left! Konerko, grand slam!" —Joe Buck, 22 Oct 2005

by mikecws91 on Dec 23, 2010 1:12 PM CST up reply actions  

"Coop can fix anyone/everyone."

Plus, his contract was substantial, IIRC.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

i always thought macdougal would figure something out.

that guy had so many at-bats where he was unhittable. too bad he could never put it together.

Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.

by MarketMaker on Dec 23, 2010 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Yep.

Held it together for Washington for a little while. You can only play above your head for so long.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 2:05 PM CST up reply actions  

those guys that can't repeat their mechanics are just brutal.

sometimes they seem like a revelation. sometimes they’re the arsonist.

Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.

by MarketMaker on Dec 23, 2010 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

Your second favorite kind!

"It's like an elephant rodeo in there."

by RWShow on Dec 24, 2010 10:42 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

if people seem interested in it

i’ll have it posted next thursday

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Dec 23, 2010 6:54 AM CST up reply actions  

Post it, please.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 7:00 AM CST up reply actions  

will do

i think i’ll set an innings floor at either 100 or 120 IP for starters and 30 or 40 IP for relievers.

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Dec 23, 2010 7:06 AM CST up reply actions  

PS

As a Toastmaster, allow me to critique one phrase: Never, EVER use “without further ado”. EVER. Stay away from cliches, especially when you are FP’ed.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 7:12 AM CST up reply actions  

noted

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Dec 23, 2010 7:14 AM CST up reply actions  

"Eliminating the ado".

Like “eliminating” waste. ;)

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions  

so much fucking ado up till then. i'm glad he'd had enough.

Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.

by MarketMaker on Dec 23, 2010 1:57 PM CST up reply actions  

I would change the entire outfield

Dye had a MVP level first half of a season before his sudden collapse, and he carried us. Carlos on the other hand, was depended on to carry the offense and failed immensely. Brian Anderson should go over Swisher, he was expected to take over center field but the king of spring never made it in the big times. Swisher was actually pretty good for us for 4 months before his off-field issues mounted. I think people would lean towards those who produced better on field despite returns in the trades. My outfield would be Carlos Quentin, Brian Anderson and Darin Erstad.

and Andy Gonzalez can take up the entire infield for all I care. hell he can take up the whole antistar team.

The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.

by blackoutsox on Dec 23, 2010 1:29 AM CST reply actions  

the drunk driver who killed Adenhart and several others got 51 years

http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/12/22/california.sentencing.drunken.driver/index.html?hpt=T2

If theres one thing in the world I dont have tolerance for, Its drunk drivers. and this is a UG post so I thought it was ok.

The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.

by blackoutsox on Dec 23, 2010 2:53 AM CST reply actions  

i think that counts as one of the inside jokes we're trying to get away from

and posting this link is fine (i think). it is semi-baseball related, but it is destined to go off-topic.

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Dec 23, 2010 6:55 AM CST up reply actions  

We spent a significant amount of time on the subject when Adenhart was killed

and gave our support to Halos Heaven (at least I did, and I know others went on the site) so I believe the link is appropriate. If we went to include GiT’s philosophy that would probably be RR material because of the “inside” nature of the material.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 7:02 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah

the inside joke part i was referring to was the old “U-God’s posts are the Wild, Wild West for commenting”. jim is civilizing the west.

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Dec 23, 2010 7:07 AM CST up reply actions  

OK, thanks.

I missed that part and frankly didn’t understand the inside piece. And if the guy with 40K posts doesn’t get the inside nature of the comment how in the hell are newbies going to figure it out?

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 7:14 AM CST up reply actions  

You ever read Cormac McCarthy?

All his books, excepting The Road, are about the end of the American west and the people who struggle adapting in the burgeoning modern world.

what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM

by Rhubarb on Dec 23, 2010 8:33 AM CST up reply actions  

And so the OT discussion blossoms :)

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 10:05 AM CST up reply actions  

This isn't off topic...I was saying some people will struggle to adapt to the modernized SSS thats all.

what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM

by Rhubarb on Dec 23, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

Just like Encino Man!

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Shoooooosh!

what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM

by Rhubarb on Dec 23, 2010 10:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Is that like a whoosh catered specifically for me, Shoeless?

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions  

No its what that douchbag in Encino Man does on stage at Prom, expecting people to quiet down.

what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM

by Rhubarb on Dec 23, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Oh. Shall we see how long we can discuss Brandon Fraser movies before we get a warning?

There was the Scout, ya know. That was baseball related.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 10:36 AM CST up reply actions  

Come on, man...

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 10:06 AM CST up reply actions  

All I'm saying is tighten it up a bit.

It’s the first day, fer Chrissakes. Embrace the tiger.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 10:56 AM CST up reply actions  

I like the fact that you have embraced the role of "mean" parent

Everyone else can be the “cool” one. sweet.

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 23, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

that it, you're grounded.

go to your room/

i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws

by e-gus on Dec 23, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

"Parent?"

Lord, no.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

The oldest of the siblings?

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

pervy uncle, duh

i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws

by e-gus on Dec 23, 2010 11:07 AM CST up reply actions  

I thought that was Rhubarb.

There should only be one pervy uncle per family.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Why cuz I patted greenlight on the ass?

what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM

by Rhubarb on Dec 23, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

this is entirely too far off topic

what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM

by Rhubarb on Dec 23, 2010 6:22 PM CST up reply actions  

It was a question not an answer...big difference slugger.

what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM

by Rhubarb on Dec 23, 2010 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

How about if I never appear ever again?

what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM

by Rhubarb on Dec 23, 2010 6:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Are you being sensitive

or being a goofball? Either way, it does not become you.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 7:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Swiss or beige.

Either way, I can dig it.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 8:19 PM CST up reply actions  

i hope to find blood meridian under the tree saturday

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Dec 23, 2010 6:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Under the Suttree?

You’ll like the judge, I mean Satan.

what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM

by Rhubarb on Dec 23, 2010 6:48 PM CST up reply actions  

very excited for it

gonna be pissed if it isn’t there. i generally ask for one book each year and am yet to be disappointed.

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Dec 23, 2010 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah... although it's usually so exaggerated

I can’t imagine anyone but the most naive new person would think I’m actually serious about supporting drinking and driving.

by Grinder in Training on Dec 23, 2010 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

The sad part is how many positions have such marvelously awful competition.

1B seems to be the only position where we have not fielded someone who truly killed our hopes and dreams for an entire year for more than 1 year (well, maybe 2B, but Gooch’s ‘07 wasn’t pretty). And the fallout is the rotation of dunces to fill those positions the following year. C, CF, SS, and 3B have been too often black holes of despair.

Our pitching has been amazing,eh? Gotta be the reason we’ve been quite competitive over the decade.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 6:42 AM CST reply actions  

this is where i say,

as clearly as i possibly can, fuck nick swisher.

"when the seagulls follow the trawler, it's because they think sardines will be thrown into the sea." ~~cantona

by BuehrleMan on Dec 23, 2010 8:01 AM CST reply actions  

This is a fine All-Suck squad.

The funny thing is…most of the players on this list had decent years…they weren’t the dregs of MLB…well maybe Ben Davis. I too, nominate Andy Gonzalez for a super-utility role.

what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM

by Rhubarb on Dec 23, 2010 8:34 AM CST reply actions  

Right

You have to earn the right have a “prolonged” bad spell.

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 23, 2010 8:45 AM CST up reply actions  

True.

what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM

by Rhubarb on Dec 23, 2010 8:51 AM CST up reply actions  

So why did Brian Anderson get the shot in 2006?

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 10:06 AM CST up reply actions  

He earned it in the minors

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 23, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Clearly.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

I can't think about Brian Anderson without thinking about Ryan Sweeney.

I was really pulling for the kid. He had the build to be something special. He was freakishly big. But he could never really hit for power in Charlotte or the Cell, and that’s saying something for someone his size.

I had a bit of a mancrush on him, I admit. FNS.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 10:13 AM CST up reply actions  

He's now a 4th-5th OF for Oakland. Oakland!

Let him go, man. It’s over.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 10:16 AM CST up reply actions  

let it go.

learn to love yourself and you’ll find you can love another again. Alex Rios is a good man.

Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 23, 2010 10:44 AM CST up reply actions  

he's like the 7th OF in Oakland now.

Coco Crisp
David DeJesus
Josh Willingham
Conor Jackson
Hideki MAtsui
Michael Taylor
Ryan Sweeney

He could be had pretty cheap I bet.

i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws

by e-gus on Dec 23, 2010 10:49 AM CST up reply actions  

I'd prefer Conor Jackson, history of playing time be damned.

Him and Q! might be able to pull together for a full season.

i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws

by e-gus on Dec 23, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Matsui in OF?

Maybe not.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 11:03 AM CST up reply actions  

I said 7 off the top of my head

then I had to stretch when I actually looked.

I hate you!
/slams door

i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws

by e-gus on Dec 23, 2010 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

OK, that made me spit up.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 11:06 AM CST up reply actions  

I like where you're going with this.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Hah

the Willingham trade must have slipped by during finals week. I had no idea.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 23, 2010 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

plus I would rather have Anderson then let Ozzie discover the temptation

that is Kotsay

The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.

by blackoutsox on Dec 23, 2010 5:14 PM CST up reply actions  

His defense is very good

he’s starter level if, IF, he stays healthy.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 23, 2010 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

his playing time has been cut for reasons not related to health

that said, sweeney plus a caddy would be better production than we’ve averaged since his departure in CF.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 23, 2010 4:41 PM CST up reply actions  

His performance was above average for two years

and all of a sudden his range was shot. I’m not going very far out on a limb by saying there’s a connection between that and his knee problems.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 23, 2010 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

i'm sure his knee being healthy is key to his defense

i hope you’re not divining that w/ a half a season of UZR. FSR, for instance, didn’t think anything was wrong with his D.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 23, 2010 7:24 PM CST up reply actions  

You don't have to fix it.

Players can earn prolonged looks by big name prospect status.

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 23, 2010 10:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Whosh.

No kidding.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

"This one might seem a little weird, but hear me out."

Re: Fields — No need. His power was a nice tease in a dismal 2007, but I’ll never forget watching him flail at fastballs up in the zone, down in the zone, in the middle of the zone, inside, outside, etc.

I thought he was starting to come around in September, when he had a 14/23 BB/K after a 5/43 in August. Oy vey.

by Craig Grebeck on Dec 23, 2010 9:28 AM CST reply actions  

I remember seeing him hit a Grand Slam in the 9th inning vs. Putz in 2007

It was the only time I’ve sat in the scout seats. It made the game interesting but we still lost of course.

what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM

by Rhubarb on Dec 23, 2010 9:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Similar to Jayson Nix last year in Tampa.

Blind pig…

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

What does a blind pig find?

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 10:08 AM CST up reply actions  

Acorn.

Or ratings, I forget.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 10:09 AM CST up reply actions  

Andy Gonzalez

I agee with those that named AG. He was one of the worst Sox 3rd basemen of All-Time let alone the decade!!

by soxfan50 on Dec 23, 2010 10:29 AM CST reply actions  

He was the worst everything

The only positions he didn’t play in 2007 were P and C.

what a tool Rhubarb — you solicit for opinions and when you don’t like them, you make personal attacks. I didn’t single anyone out on that piece of crap site of yours and you start talking down to me?! You deserve nothing more than profanity —
POSTED BY RICKSCH | 22. DEC, 2010, 4:58 PM

by Rhubarb on Dec 23, 2010 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

It's a shame that Darin Erstad couldn't win a position in 2007,

since I had to suffer through it (and Hawk’s description of it) in 87 games. I remember a lot of that .310 OBP coming in the lead off position, as well. Damn, I hated 2007.

"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote

by SkanchoDanza on Dec 23, 2010 10:45 AM CST reply actions  

I blame 2007 for SSS nearing 'the abyss'

we were forced to talk about other things.

i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws

by e-gus on Dec 23, 2010 10:52 AM CST up reply actions  

A rainbow is made with tears and light.

The light was Beckham.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

Palehose 7 was some pretty good stuff.

I still have my t-shirt. Somewhere…

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions  

I remember Hawk's quote about Erstad:

“Here’s a guy that’s hitting .163 as he stands up to the dish, and I am just so happy he’s here.”

THIS NEW ARRANGEMENT SHOULD BE POOTY GOO

by Jim Margalus on Dec 23, 2010 11:38 AM CST up reply actions  

Excellent.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions  

Said the same thing 3 years later.

I hope someone forces hawk to learn what WAR and OPS are, the O.P.oS.

Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 23, 2010 1:49 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm sure he knows what OPS is

but hawk is old school. the rest of that crap (uzr, fip, war etc etc) no chance. He would probably die from it. Do you want Hawk to die? I don’t. Leave him be. lol

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 23, 2010 1:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I bet Hawk is more open to them than you'd think.

When I was a kid Hawk used to say something along the lines of, one day there will be a stat which takes all aspects of the game into consideration which we’ll be able to use in comparing players. He was right.

by 3E8 on Dec 23, 2010 2:18 PM CST up reply actions  

For pitchers, yes.

Batting average for hitters.

If is is one handed shitting. by winningugly

by mick10 on Dec 23, 2010 2:35 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Cool Ugod

but Cmon man, where or where is the Anti All star team manager????

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 23, 2010 11:11 AM CST reply actions  

Does this include pitching, hitting, bench, and third base coaches?

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Joey Cora for third base coach and bench coach!

Harold might have to get 1st base coach- they had their amazing run as soon as he went out for hip surgery.

i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws

by e-gus on Dec 23, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Cora was like a windmill over there

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 2:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Naw I say just the head guy.

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 23, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Razor Shines!

At least he went on to better things….
www.3rdbasecoachoflife.com

I shant be misled a second time

by Nordhagen on Dec 23, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

"Did you have a good experience with the White Sox?" was my yes/no.

Answer: “That answer can be found on MLB.com.” Hmmm.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 12:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow my memory is getting bad

I had Bevington in mind when I posted this forgetting that was much longer ago. Uncle Jerry really doesn’t get rid of managers eh?

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 23, 2010 11:33 AM CST up reply actions  

Manuel in 2003 was pretty bad

Starting Cotts over Buehrle in Yankee Stadium, and paying the price for exiling Foulke by suffering through Koch.

THIS NEW ARRANGEMENT SHOULD BE POOTY GOO

by Jim Margalus on Dec 23, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions  

That was painful to watch, I remember it well. 5 runs in the first inning. ooooooooof.

I hated Manuel’s apparent lack of passion, and emotionless observance of the game. Ozzie may be a crazypants, but at least there is no doubt that his heart is invested in every game (Sundays aside of course, heh).

A 2003 managing moment that could have rrreally bitten Manuel in the ass, but turned out to be a moment of genius instead: pinch-hitting Paulie with 2 outs in the 11th on July 2nd.

biceps-deep in fungible pumpkins.

by homesickalien on Dec 25, 2010 11:50 AM CST up reply actions  

Fregosi as manager.

Hands down.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Oops.

I mixed my Nordy game with U-God. Sorry.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 11:46 AM CST up reply actions  

Nutsy Nardi!

there was also Mike Pazik

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 23, 2010 1:44 PM CST up reply actions  

the before and after Coop is remarkable.

in the 10 years before Coop, i don’t think they had a season above 16 WAR from the starters.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 23, 2010 2:14 PM CST up reply actions  

any idea what his contract status is? that's one guy that i'd hate to lose.

Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.

by MarketMaker on Dec 23, 2010 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

none, and google/g-news didn't show much either

i’m guessing he’s part of the JR family. he’s part of the brain trust if KW quotes are to be believed.

and yeah Coop might be the most valuable part of the brain trust. in the very least, he should make more than Ozzie.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 23, 2010 3:24 PM CST up reply actions  

Wasn't he the one that forced Thornton and Santos into the equation?

I have to imagine he’s been the one to convince KW to get many other pitchers who flipped a switch with them.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 23, 2010 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

where or where?

what the hell kind of a choice is that?

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Dec 23, 2010 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

thanks

figured it was prolly a little too high school for most to catch, but fit the theme perfectly

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Dec 23, 2010 6:35 PM CST up reply actions  

and i thank you for helping me pick next week's title

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Dec 23, 2010 10:06 PM CST up reply actions  

Love that song. Brings back memories of sophomore year of college

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 23, 2010 10:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Timberwolves at New Jersey

Not just a shitty NBA game.

Anyways, 5 Schrutebucks your way for any future TBS articles.

by CrossCyed on Dec 23, 2010 11:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Caruso - 1999

just missed the list, but would have won hands down.

.250/.280/.297. He stole 12 bases on 26 attempts.

-2.7 fWAR

And Manuel gave him 564 PAs. Dark days….

I shant be misled a second time

by Nordhagen on Dec 23, 2010 1:33 PM CST reply actions  

I remember he was hitting around .300 for a lot of that season

That really demonstrated to me that batting average is not a great stat

by joewho112 on Dec 23, 2010 2:43 PM CST up reply actions  

In 98 he finished .306/.331/.390

had 22 stolen bases, 5 homers, 55 rbi’s and a 2.3 WAR in his rookie season. 1999 he fell off the map and didn’t resurface again besides the 2-20 he posted for the 2002 royals.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 23, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

And then when they flip Beltre, Soriano, LaRoche, Pods and Vlad at the deadline

they’d bring in all sorts of prospects to build up their farm system. Maybe in a year or two, they’d be a real contender. Shame what’s happened to baseball in that city.

Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 23, 2010 2:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey Andruw Jones is starting!

I would recommend putting all your thoughts together, then dumping them all out into one solidified stool.
-Shoeless In SC

by PeejSox on Dec 23, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

The bullpen would be great

but the defense on that team is pretty abysmal. And the SP looks like something the Brewers trotted out the last 2 years, which is to say not good at all.

by kcgard2 on Dec 23, 2010 3:55 PM CST up reply actions  

flagged

get your off topic out of here. And i better not hear a peep about this christmas out of any of you knuckleheads either.

"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."

by boyonthedock on Dec 23, 2010 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

This must be rec'd.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 7:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Every time I log in all new comments aren't yellow as if I already read them.

This happening to anyone else?

i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws

by e-gus on Dec 23, 2010 6:40 PM CST reply actions  

Mine is fine.

"And he rips one into left! Konerko, grand slam!" —Joe Buck, 22 Oct 2005

by mikecws91 on Dec 23, 2010 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

nope

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Dec 23, 2010 6:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Doesshehaveprettyfeet?

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 7:29 PM CST up reply actions  

thats classified

but I heard Rex Ryan thinks his kicker does.

i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws

by e-gus on Dec 23, 2010 9:29 PM CST up reply actions  

im good

The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.

by blackoutsox on Dec 23, 2010 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

and they look green to me

The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.

by blackoutsox on Dec 23, 2010 7:13 PM CST up reply actions  

Your powers have diminished, Superman.

uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST

by winningugly on Dec 23, 2010 7:29 PM CST up reply actions  

a one time superhero

at least he went out with a bang

The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.

by blackoutsox on Dec 23, 2010 7:45 PM CST up reply actions  

seems to be fine now.

weiirds

i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws

by e-gus on Dec 23, 2010 9:29 PM CST up reply actions  

looking at that cavalcade of CF fail

even without having to mention Erstad or Mackowiak, it’s just so good to have Rios.

How is it that I really don’t recall much about Ben Davis?

"Hawk Harrelson: Annoying even the hearing impaired": Teahenny Penny paraphrasing Chisoxfan1473

by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 23, 2010 7:54 PM CST reply actions  

probably because there isn't much to remember

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Dec 23, 2010 8:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Pierzynski took his job.

THIS NEW ARRANGEMENT SHOULD BE POOTY GOO

by Jim Margalus on Dec 23, 2010 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

and i'm not sorry neither

I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR MY BEHAVIOR!! I DAYDREAM WITH THE BEST OF THEM.......

by pierzynskirules on Dec 23, 2010 9:04 PM CST up reply actions  

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