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Boxing Day Links Are Beating Up On Cellar Dwellers

For those of you that received nothing but coal, or if your Freddy Garcia is still in the mail (there's still plenty of time for transactions, by the way), it could always be worse. You could have been born a fan of the Indians or the Royals.

The Indians are going through a myriad of tough times lately: AL Central contention in 2011 is all but laughed at by their MLB-assigned reporter (at the bottom), there are rumors of bringing in Bartolo Colon to start, and their biggest off-season move was to re-sign outfielder Austin Kearns for 1 year/1.3 million. Some fans are skeptical that Indians' GM Chris Antonetti attended the winter meetings at all this year, and rightly so. Jayson Nix, the in-house candidate for opening day third baseman, missed nine games of winter ball after being hit in the head by a pitch. This clearly derails his development at the position. The club finished dead last in attendance in 2010, hemorrhaging a major league worst 4,625 fewer fans per game than in 2009. For the coming season they've resorted to drastically reducing ticket prices (bleacher seats for $10!) and luring potential fans by turning Progressive Field into an equally impressive and embarrassing snow park, complete with heated dugouts so attendees can feel good about the Indians' bench for a change. On top of all this, Indians icon Bob Feller recently passed away at the age of 92. Yes, he no-hit the White Sox on opening day 1940; we'll share in honoring him anyway.  Helluva damn pitcher.  Finally, tickets to get a first regular season glimpse of our ‘All In' White Sox are on sale now. Feel free to flee to the Cleve.  It's not all bad;  Fantastic beer is made not far from the Jake.

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Kansas City does not fare much better. The Royals have already won the 2011 Farm System World Series, but the rest of their perpetual rebuilding plan has yet to find any sort of truly meaningful success. With Zack Greinke waiving his no-trade clause to pitch in Milwaukee (Rany has level-headed and greatly extended analysis and trade comparison), the pitching situation left in KC looks downright ugly, no matter the youth and future upside. Fangraphs' player links: Luke Hochevar, he of the 65% strand rate, complimenting a robust .350 OBP against in 2010, figures to be the opening day starter. Kyle Davies (intensely average), Vin Mazzaro (if he limits walks, he could be alright), Sean O'Sullivan (untested, problems with control, could be a gas can) and perhaps Gil Meche, who would be bouncing back from shoulder surgery, figure to fill out the rotation. Let's just say that walks will be a problem for this group, to put it quite mildly.  There are also calls to trade Billy Butler and Joakim Soria (insider), the other players of real value held by the Royals, while they're still cost-controlled.  It seems the date set for the Royals to finally contend continues to be pushed further and further back.

What Sunday Links are spelling out here is that the White Sox had a combined 19-17 record versus the Indians and Royals in 2010; the 2011 version simply must perform better.  White Sox batters should treat their starting pitchers with utter contempt and disrespect.  Professionally, of course.  

Finally, some best-of-the-week stuff, not to be lost amongst threads. mechanical turk gives us an archive of numbers worn by White Sox players, from their first appearance in 1931 to present day, larry shares the details of Crain's deal, and Daniel Berlyn linked to the merits and drawbacks of throwing a split-finger fastball.

The new year is six days away, and it will be chock full of exciting baseball. These are good times, people.

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So long to one of baseball’s greatest pitchers, Bob Feller. Feller could always be found around the ballpark, and I would guess nearly everyone in Cleveland has that man’s autograph.

Either this spring or the year before (they tend to run together), I was leaving the Indians ballpark in Goodyear, Ariz., after one of our games.

The stairs from the pressbox flowed into the crowd as everyone departed and there was a bit of a bottleneck ahead as one older man slowly exited, rocking a bit side to side. As people piled up behind him, I noticed that he was wearing a “Feller” jersey. That’s kinda cool, I thought to myself, an old fan is wearing the jersey of his hero.

As I passed the guy on my way to my car, I looked back. It wasn’t an older fan wearing that Feller jersey, it was Feller.

And he walked to his car on a sunny March day just like every other fan in the ballpark that day.

The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.

by blackoutsox on Dec 26, 2010 1:04 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

I started working for a company who's headquarters were in Akron, Ohio in 1994.

That was the first year the Indians played in ‘the Jake’. I travelled there often and whenever I did, we’d go to a game or two as the company had season tickets. What a great atmosphere for a ballgame. They sold out for about 6 years straight and the park and their teams were excellent. My boss (a good friend) would always schedule ‘meetings’ when the sox were in town. Good times.

If is is one handed shitting. by winningugly

by mick10 on Dec 26, 2010 3:37 AM CST reply actions  

They sold out when their team was good. Now that they're bad, their attendance is rotten.

Cleveland fans… May they all go another 50 years without a title in anything.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 26, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Beating up on cellar dwellers is a good strategy

An example of this is the 2003 season when the Twins went 15-4 vs. the pathetic Tigers.
That same year the Sox managed to go 11-8 vs. the Tigers. The Sox then lose the division by 4 games.

It is pretty fun to take 2/3 from the Rangers or 3/4 from the Red Sox. But I would much rather this Sox team take care of business in the division.

It only takes a second or so...Quentin is down 0-2!

by SavePeavytill2010 on Dec 26, 2010 10:04 AM CST reply actions  

Sox simply need to win the matchups they're supposed to win

By not losing to these scrubby AAA/AAAA pitchers that the Royals and Indians throw at them, and combine this by going ~.500 against the pitchers they should struggle against (Verlander, Liriano, etc).

That’s my recipe for winning. Beat the guys you’re supposed to beat and split the games against the tough guys. This bullshit where they always get shut down by the Anthony Lerews, Mitch Talbots and Kyle Davies of the world needs to stop.

Against the Sox in 2010:
Mitch Talbot: (3-0, 2.89 ERA, 6:13 BB:K)
Kyle Davies: (6IP, 1ER, 2BB, 5K)
Anthony Lerew: (6IP, 3H, 1ER, 1BB, 4K) [One of two starts against the Sox in 2010]

Total 2010 Stats:
Mitch Talbot: (10-13, 4.41 ERA, 69:88 BB:K)
Kyle Davies: (8-12, 5.34 ERA, 80:126 BB:K)
Anthony Lerew: (1-4, 8.54 ERA, 26IP, 9BB, 18K)

I cherry picked these stats quickly just to give a crude example of my point. Sox gotta do better against these pitchers (and these kinds of pitchers) in 2011

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 26, 2010 11:55 AM CST up reply actions  

My favorite example is the Adam Eaton game.

The equivalent of a fat 80 year old man being pulled from the stands and pitching a perfect game against us.

The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.

by blackoutsox on Dec 26, 2010 12:05 PM CST up reply actions  

TP, this is excellent.

I hate Christmas. No baseball. by mikecws91

by winningugly on Dec 26, 2010 5:01 PM CST reply actions  

Indeed.

Beware the cure isn't worse than the disease

by Chiburb on Dec 26, 2010 5:09 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

props teep

Two rights make one wrong

by Rhubarb on Dec 26, 2010 7:55 PM CST reply actions  

Speaking of the Sox and Opening Day no-hitters

Jack Morris of the Detroit Tigers no hit the White Sox three games into the 1984 season. On national TV, no less. It was NBC’s game of the week.

The intro to which can be found here

If you count back into the previous year, that works out to two no hitters in 11 games. The Sox were also victims of a no-no on September 29, 1983.

The guy at the bank doesn't care how many trophies you've got!

by 67WMAQ on Dec 26, 2010 9:38 PM CST reply actions  

I was not,

but watched the whole thing. I remember it being very, very cold.

I hate Christmas. No baseball. by mikecws91

by winningugly on Dec 27, 2010 7:31 AM CST up reply actions  

The correct response is

“You should’ve stopped watching it through Gimbel’s window and gone home.”

DB.

I hate Christmas. No baseball. by mikecws91

by winningugly on Dec 27, 2010 6:28 PM CST up reply actions  

At least the spirit of being no-hit moved to Florida.

"My role hads not changed: Old punching bag." -winningugly

by Uribe Down on Dec 27, 2010 6:54 PM CST up reply actions  

I done quit drinkin

But Great Lakes is a great brewery, very environmentally friendly as well.

Anyways has anyone made a trip down to Cleveland for a game? I have heard it was nice. Was it easy to get tickets?

by 815Sox on Dec 28, 2010 10:46 AM CST reply actions  

i have. it was good....

went at the end of the 2005. Stayed at the Ritz Carlton which is the team hotel. We had already clinched, but still swept them anyway. Lots of sox fans were there. Mortons steakhouse is in the hotel… Contreras, Konerko and some others were eating in there…. when they got up to leave everyone was chanting Con-trer-as Con-trer-as… pretty awesome. Also a mall attached to the hotel- saw pablo ozuna buying a sweet pair of snake skin boots.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 28, 2010 11:01 AM CST up reply actions  

I went to Cleveland for opening day 2008, bought lower deck tickets just a week beforehand.

I should be there for opening day 2011, also. Getting my tickets soon. It’s a good place for a game.

"My role hads not changed: Old punching bag." -winningugly

by Uribe Down on Dec 28, 2010 12:24 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

SSS Opening Day road tro

"My role hads not changed: Old punching bag." -winningugly

by Uribe Down on Dec 28, 2010 1:12 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Trip?

Damn new mobile posting!

"My role hads not changed: Old punching bag." -winningugly

by Uribe Down on Dec 28, 2010 1:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

That should have read "tickets from the Indians website.

"My role hads not changed: Old punching bag." -winningugly

by Uribe Down on Dec 28, 2010 1:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

On tap at Progressive.

"My role hads not changed: Old punching bag." -winningugly

by Uribe Down on Dec 28, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

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