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In Memoriam: Scott Linebrink

November 23, 2007 - December 3, 2010

We are gathered here today to remember Scott Cameron Linebrink. Scott came to us as a free agent.  Today, he leaves us.

My favorite Scott Linebrink memory was Scott being traded to the Atlanta Braves.

Please add your memory - or at least your name - to the guestbook below.

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THANK YOU

very much for sh@#! bricks everytime you came out ofthe bullpen. giving up the tying and go ahead runs. loser you will not be missed.

I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR MY BEHAVIOR!! I DAYDREAM WITH THE BEST OF THEM.......

by pierzynskirules on Dec 3, 2010 12:56 PM CST reply actions  

wonder how much cash they sent with him.

My favorite Scott Linebrink moment will be in the future when he blows the 5 run lead in game 7 of the World Series as Dunn touches ’em all FTW.

by madvillian on Dec 3, 2010 12:57 PM CST reply actions  

Insta-rec.

Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 3, 2010 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

love it

I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR MY BEHAVIOR!! I DAYDREAM WITH THE BEST OF THEM.......

by pierzynskirules on Dec 3, 2010 12:59 PM CST up reply actions  

oh yeah

kenny is basically forcing us to get drunk together.

i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws

by e-gus on Dec 3, 2010 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

i pass

I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR MY BEHAVIOR!! I DAYDREAM WITH THE BEST OF THEM.......

by pierzynskirules on Dec 3, 2010 1:14 PM CST up reply actions  

you werent invited

and are also in the swrong zip code

i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws

by e-gus on Dec 3, 2010 1:17 PM CST up reply actions  

i was being sarcastic

meanie

I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR MY BEHAVIOR!! I DAYDREAM WITH THE BEST OF THEM.......

by pierzynskirules on Dec 3, 2010 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

lets hug it out

its all coming up white sox this week.

kenny’s fantasy football team must have been eliminated from the play-offs when frank gore went down or something.

i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws

by e-gus on Dec 3, 2010 1:21 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

hahaha

I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR MY BEHAVIOR!! I DAYDREAM WITH THE BEST OF THEM.......

by pierzynskirules on Dec 3, 2010 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

1.5 million to ATL?

"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10

by Ahillock on Dec 3, 2010 12:59 PM CST reply actions  

3E8

My favorite Linebrink memory was when my baseball team played a doubleheader at a local university, and I looked to the outfield fence to see Linebrink’s jersey had been retired. I shat bricks much in the way we saw Linebrink do himself on multiple occasions in his time with the White Sox.

by 3E8 on Dec 3, 2010 1:00 PM CST reply actions  

My favorite Linebrink memory was

calling him Linestink every oppurtunity I got, and teaching friends and acquaintances to use that nickname. Good riddance, brick-shitter.

Hope he’s not writing the 2011 White Sox Anal too. -Sox Machine

by Jack M on Dec 3, 2010 1:01 PM CST reply actions  

April. Minnesota is at USCF

Linebrink comes in with the bases loaded and retires the next three guys.

The Sox lost 1-0, but I was just as surprised as you.

The guy at the bank doesn't care how many trophies you've got!

by 67WMAQ on Dec 3, 2010 1:02 PM CST reply actions  

No, no. You're doing it all wrong.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 4, 2010 10:52 PM CST up reply actions  

2nd half of 09

Batters against
.377/.433/.651

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 3, 2010 1:09 PM CST reply actions  

this you?

 “Yeah clearly Don Cooper is a slouch. Seriously hoo ray beer!”

i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws

by e-gus on Dec 3, 2010 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

yep. lol

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 3, 2010 1:23 PM CST up reply actions  

small sample size?

"There's too many (bleeping) guys on the computer. It's simple. I say that. Pete Rose never watched a computer. Rod Carew never did. All those hitters, they go out and see the ball, hit it and move on." - Ozzie

by usualsuspect on Dec 3, 2010 6:54 PM CST up reply actions  

what comes before part B?

PART-AAAAAY!

i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws

by e-gus on Dec 3, 2010 1:12 PM CST reply actions  

Liney: A reaction to the '07 bullpen performance.

One extreme to another, and reminder to take care the cure isn’t worse than the disease.

Intoxicated with the wine of cloaking powers and the gin of banning authority since 2005.

by Chiburb on Dec 3, 2010 1:12 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

SO difficult to choose just one example of his mound-crapping! The 8th inning of June 18, 2009 against the Cubs (Thorny got pegged with the L) stands out for me. I wanted to murder the em-effer.

Also amusing, is how we still felt shitty after wins in which Linebrink pitched.

Example: August 17, 2009. Sox are able to score a run in the bottom of the 8th and wind up winning the game 8-7, despite Liney’s best attempt to fuck it all up by giving up 3 runs in the top of the inning.

Bobby closes and Linebrink gets the win (/facepalm), and this historical thread emerges from the ashes.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Dec 3, 2010 1:13 PM CST reply actions  

The last time larry had serious teeth.

Other than that, the site hasn’t changed much, except Cheat wrote an opinion piece.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 2:28 PM CST up reply actions  

Wire, retards, Brett Favre.

Awful.

TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.

by Ozzie Montana on Dec 3, 2010 2:51 PM CST up reply actions  

i was there...

some of Liney’s finest meatballs

by Andronicus on Dec 3, 2010 7:33 PM CST up reply actions  

I certainly remember the photos of the mentally handicapped and the poo chart...

but I had missed billyok’s comment to larry “My frisbee got caught in a tree, can I borrow that stick up your ass to get it down”.

Fucking Brilliant!

Where is that crazy bastard these days?

It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT

by rhythm on Dec 4, 2010 1:12 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm gettin'

high as fuck tonight

Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 3, 2010 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I pass

mother in laws birthday today.
that probably wouldnt go over too well.

i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws

by e-gus on Dec 3, 2010 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

PASS

I PASS.

i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws

by e-gus on Dec 3, 2010 1:21 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm saying invite her to participate.

Make it a family affair.

Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 3, 2010 1:22 PM CST up reply actions  

I am pretty sure Infante or Nunez could match Linebrink's WAR

Anybody know anything about Cofield other than that his stats suggest he isn’t very good?

I cannot answer any more questions for you today. I has wickeds gas from drink too manys redbull.

by Marlafar on Dec 3, 2010 1:17 PM CST reply actions  

let coop fix him

"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10

by Ahillock on Dec 3, 2010 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

He pitched in the AFL

Isn’t it true that KW trades exclusively for bad minor leaguers that played/pitched in that year’s AFL?

I cannot answer any more questions for you today. I has wickeds gas from drink too manys redbull.

by Marlafar on Dec 3, 2010 1:33 PM CST up reply actions  

No, Larry, I need you to point that out to me.

I cannot answer any more questions for you today. I has wickeds gas from drink too manys redbull.

by Marlafar on Dec 3, 2010 1:41 PM CST up reply actions  

He's a big dude

maybe he throws hard. He gets a decent number of ground balls, so there’s that. As little of a chance he has to contribute at a high level, it’s probably a little higher than someone like Hynick. I’m surprised they got someone as relevant for Linebrink.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 3, 2010 1:47 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't care if this dude killed every chance of a win in any minor league game

he pitches in. SCOTT LINEBRINK IS GONE BABY!

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 3, 2010 1:52 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

The lotto ticket I bought has a chance of success too.

Intoxicated with the wine of cloaking powers and the gin of banning authority since 2005.

by Chiburb on Dec 3, 2010 1:54 PM CST up reply actions  

No fair.

You watch these minor leaguers. I couldn’t name 10 of them.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

"larry"

Fixed.

skeletons don't like closets.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 3, 2010 1:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

lol

i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws

by e-gus on Dec 3, 2010 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

Bye-bye you POS

I feel much better already even after I saw in the paper we got Dunn this morning. Maybe thing are looking up!

by CATDADDY47 on Dec 3, 2010 1:37 PM CST reply actions  

"He's got a Linebrink and he's not afraid to use it!"

That Skanberg cartoon has to be my best memory of Liney. Good luck in Atlanta, and don’t trip on the way out.

by Carthago Delenda Est on Dec 3, 2010 1:41 PM CST reply actions  

i don't remember any particular favorite linebrink moments.

i don’t think i disliked him as much as a lot of other people (i don’t recall ever putting him on my list), but that doesn’t mean i liked him either and of course, though it wasn’t his fault, his contract was denarded.
it’s possible he will be perfectly serviceable in atlanta, but i’m glad he’s gone. bye scott.

buehrleman

i am a bark for buffeting. i am a hound for thornypaws. i am a doe for swiftness. i am a tree for wind-siege. i am a windmill. i am a hole in a wall.

by BuehrleMan on Dec 3, 2010 1:44 PM CST reply actions  

It is said if you don't have something good to say, don't say anything.

( .)

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 1:45 PM CST reply actions  

.

The sky IS falling.

by Uribe Down on Dec 3, 2010 1:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Huh. Interesting comment.

Thanks.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Dec 3, 2010 1:50 PM CST up reply actions  

Are you applying for an SBNC authorship?

Isn’t that how they respond to actual comments?

Intoxicated with the wine of cloaking powers and the gin of banning authority since 2005.

by Chiburb on Dec 3, 2010 1:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Mine was in jest, however.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Dec 3, 2010 1:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Oh. I thought it was in imitation.

Never mind.

Intoxicated with the wine of cloaking powers and the gin of banning authority since 2005.

by Chiburb on Dec 3, 2010 1:59 PM CST up reply actions  

It was, it was!

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Dec 3, 2010 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Do you guys know each other?

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Mr. Linebrink

My favorite memory is that you reminded me of ryan bukvich. Ryan said things to make me laugh, you didn’t, but you looked and pitched like him… so you two are the same person in my mind.

skeletons don't like closets.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 3, 2010 1:52 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

hahahaha the best news

I figured there was no way this guy gets moved. damn, EXCELLENT Kenny!

Taking a walk in a donky park listening to the wind of change

by LT_sox_fan on Dec 3, 2010 1:53 PM CST reply actions  

Yes, I would.

But I wouldn’t mind at all.

The sky IS falling.

by Uribe Down on Dec 3, 2010 2:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Why?

I haven’t…

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Dec 3, 2010 6:29 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I thought about it

and it made me feel all warm and happy, but! let’s not dream too much, one dead horse at a time

Taking a walk in a donky park listening to the wind of change

by LT_sox_fan on Dec 3, 2010 3:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Who the f is Josh Douchenozzle, and why does he think he's better than the rest of us?

Josh Duhamel was taken off an airplane Thursday after refusing to turn off his BlackBerry. The actor, 38, was traveling from New York to Kentucky when his plane was delayed, according to TMZ.

Intoxicated with the wine of cloaking powers and the gin of banning authority since 2005.

by Chiburb on Dec 3, 2010 1:58 PM CST reply actions  

Why the f would anyone fly to Kentucky?

and if flying to Kentucky, why the f would anyone want to be on time?

by TasteeFreeze on Dec 3, 2010 2:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Bourbon.

The sky IS falling.

by Uribe Down on Dec 3, 2010 2:05 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Oh stop.

He was effective his first season here, and talked Peavy into dropping his NTC to come here.

My favorite memory of him is Linebrink not hijacking the team charter and crashing it in a field in Pennsylvania.

by TasteeFreeze on Dec 3, 2010 1:58 PM CST reply actions  

You can't fault his work ethic.

I’m in the same boat with you, TF. He was a good guy and worked hard to be as effective as he could be. Unfortunately, he was unable to find that effectiveness for most of the time he was here. I still think that he is going to have a decent 2011 season.

by Carthago Delenda Est on Dec 3, 2010 3:07 PM CST up reply actions  

He was effective until

Joe Morgan said the White Sox had the best bullpen in the history of baseball.

"Yet you skate like you think wearing it is enough."

LET’S GO HAWKS!!!!!

by ballyb on Dec 3, 2010 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

FJM

Hope he’s not writing the 2011 White Sox Anal too. -Sox Machine

by Jack M on Dec 3, 2010 2:12 PM CST up reply actions  

He was pretty effective in NOT convincing Peavy to drop

his no trade clause. Kenny convinced him the 2nd time. I still hate Linebrink for this. He sucks.

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 3, 2010 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

May 3rd 2010

It’s my birthday and I’m at The Cell watching Peavy shut down the Royals. Enter Scott Linebrink. I turn to my friends and say, “Well…there goes the shutout.” Seconds later the brick shitter gives up a homerun to Scotty Pods. Eff you, Scott Linebrink. Eff you and that fat contract your rode in on.

"There he was!!! Dirtying his shiny Sox helmet!!!" - homesickalien at the brief glimpse of Manny Ramirez

by Servant2LordBeckham on Dec 3, 2010 2:01 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I have two favorite Linebrink moments, generally speaking

The first was the first half of ‘08 where he was outstanding. Then Joe Morgan said the Sox had the best bullpen he’s ever seen and that was that.

The second was my automatic rule of thumb from any game in ’09 or ’10: Anytime Linebrink comes in, the game is no longer worth watching.

FifthFeather.com

by El Duque's Raft on Dec 3, 2010 2:03 PM CST reply actions  

Pretty sure Linebrink never actually existed and was just a Charlie Kaufman invention meant to teach us something.

TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.

by Ozzie Montana on Dec 3, 2010 2:07 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

teach us what exactly?

I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR MY BEHAVIOR!! I DAYDREAM WITH THE BEST OF THEM.......

by pierzynskirules on Dec 3, 2010 2:08 PM CST up reply actions  

To love our mothers.

TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.

by Ozzie Montana on Dec 3, 2010 2:09 PM CST up reply actions  

i do that anyway

I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR MY BEHAVIOR!! I DAYDREAM WITH THE BEST OF THEM.......

by pierzynskirules on Dec 3, 2010 2:10 PM CST up reply actions  

which is why he is no longer needed

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Dec 3, 2010 2:11 PM CST up reply actions  

yeppers

I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR MY BEHAVIOR!! I DAYDREAM WITH THE BEST OF THEM.......

by pierzynskirules on Dec 3, 2010 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

was it

no matter how many cities within a city within a city you build, the girl will still leave you in the end?

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 3, 2010 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

I have awoken the inner AV Club writer.

TS% = Thabo Sefolosha percentage. It calculates how much you can be like Thabo Sefolosha. That’s why Keith Bogans is at 70%.

by Ozzie Montana on Dec 3, 2010 2:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Wow

according to kenny, both AJ and Dunn agreed to take less money in ’11 so the Sox can make a play for Paulie. Man, that whole organization loves him….(as do I).

Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 3, 2010 2:12 PM CST reply actions  

i heard that too

I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR MY BEHAVIOR!! I DAYDREAM WITH THE BEST OF THEM.......

by pierzynskirules on Dec 3, 2010 2:13 PM CST up reply actions  

He had better freaking sign, then.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 2:21 PM CST up reply actions  

What a rebellious idea this is.
General manager Ken Williams was quick to point out that both players deferred money toward the back end of their contracts so the White Sox could make a stronger pitch for Konerko, adding: "Our guys aren’t just giving lip service; they’re actually putting their money where their mouth is."

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 3, 2010 3:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Next they will be asking for a percentage of the team.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 3:54 PM CST up reply actions  

just because they're doing it

doesn’t make it a good idea. trading future wins for current wins is a less than stellar strategy.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 3, 2010 4:13 PM CST up reply actions  

And their taxes will be higher in 2012.

Glad they are doing it, but if I were their advisor I’d counsel against it.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 4:14 PM CST up reply actions  

it makes for a fun team this year.

and i’ll enjoy that. but we’ll be missing wins from future teams, especially if we go this route AND start trading our few prospects.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 3, 2010 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

what else do we need

if we get paulie?
couple of decent arms for the bullpen, which can be got on the free market. though might it be worth it to trade a starter for some bullpen help plus some good prospects? replenish the incredibly bare system.
seems like any 4 out of the 5 starters we have ought to be enough to win the division.

by craigws on Dec 3, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

at this point, they're all in for 2011

the idea hopefully will be to grow the perceived value of the current investments, so they can dump salary when necessary and get some younger players rather than just dumping salary (or, as in Linebrink’s case, having to send money).

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 3, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions  

Sounds like '06,

complete with the Thome acquisition. I’m thinking we’ll do better.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 4:28 PM CST up reply actions  

there are definite parallels.

down to having to beat out two similarly talented teams.

it does seem like the current trio are pushing each other into spending, perhaps more than they’d like. reminds me of this:

http://www.marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2009/11/how-to-sell-a-dollar-for-more-than-a-dollar.html

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 3, 2010 4:33 PM CST up reply actions  

speaking of growing investments

They should extend Alexei now while they can

I shant be misled a second time

by Nordhagen on Dec 3, 2010 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't see why you think they're compromising the future

as much as you’re emphasizing. That they’re doing this, to me, indicates that they aren’t risking everything and that they feel they have enough breathing space going down the road that they won’t be detrimenting future teams too much by deferring.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 3, 2010 4:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I'd like to think Jerry is "screw it, I can't take it with me."

"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb

by South Side Expat on Dec 3, 2010 4:37 PM CST up reply actions  

he can't. but his kids inherit it.

are they also in line to inherit the team? because if so, it then becomes money the white sox won’t have in the future.

by craigws on Dec 3, 2010 4:39 PM CST up reply actions  

and if he's selling to someone else

i’m sure outstanding contracts would count against the final sale price.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 3, 2010 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

i'll wait till the aftermath to see how many wins it could cost

which is why i’m just agitating against the concept. to me it looks like JR balancing his love of the Sox with his desire not to lose money. so he’s kicking the can.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 3, 2010 4:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I just don't see it all adding up to a huge black hole.

The big contracts are staggered. 2011 was supposed to be the complicated year.

Then again, I didn’t see them bringing in Dunn and then bringing back AJ and Paulie.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 3, 2010 4:40 PM CST up reply actions  

They seem to be willing to pay quite a price

to cover those last few wins. In which case, I still don’t see the contract staggering causing the team to have to lower payroll at any point in the near future and I don’t see the larger of the contracts hamstringing the team, either.

I’m anxious to see how it turns out, but in any case there are a number of options. If a three-win deficit means 2010, then it doesn’t necessarily mean it was a mistake to do this. Having to break up the contracts like this isn’t ideal but I don’t see where it means you’re losing something you can’t replace later and if they do it right they can still break even with less-than ideal results. Backloading is also done so that if a player plays like he should(or you hope), you can deal him while letting someone else pay for what would be sunk costs.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 3, 2010 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I know you know that last point, so don't take it as condescending

Another variable is Peavy’s insurance. I don’t pretend to know the details of that.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 3, 2010 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

dn if you saw

but i asked Mark Gonzalez, his best guess is that it kicks in if Peavy misses 45 days to start the season.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 3, 2010 5:15 PM CST up reply actions  

it's really easy to talk yourself into taking from the future

that’s why there’s such a stigma against it.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 3, 2010 5:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Sure there is.

It only happens all the time. It’s not prudent but it is seducing.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 6:25 PM CST up reply actions  

I just don't know if the cons are that forbidding

It seems like they’ll be able to operate as they always have if they draw the contracts up properly. That’s what makes it viable to me.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 3, 2010 8:27 PM CST up reply actions  

Its not

If I had a dollar every time I heard this I’d be rich. This current situation wasn’t even supposed to be possible a few years ago. Wake me when their done.

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 3, 2010 4:43 PM CST up reply actions  

this is true.

the caveat is there’s plenty of variability in a given season. ’07 was a blip, largely because Gavin, Johnny and Carlos turned out to be stellar. the equivalents on this team would be Morel, Beckham and Viciedo. to lesser extent, Alexei and Carlos, since they already have MLB track records.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 3, 2010 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

Whatever the case, it's viable,

and I think at least as much so as taking lumps in the short-term. You’re entitled to disagree.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 3, 2010 4:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Against running your team like a regular

Pardon me if I disagree a tad.

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 3, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

regular business.

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 3, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

it's already somewhat different

JR isn’t profit maximizing, he wants to break even. unless he wants to bite the bullet and take an actual loss, it’s not hard to see this keeping the Sox from some number of wins in the future.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 3, 2010 4:29 PM CST up reply actions  

This.

Sports is not a “regular” business. If you are in it to maximize cash flow/profit you are in the wrong business. You hope the asset grows in value. Movies also are not a typical “business”. Sports and other entertainment are a different financial animal.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 4:33 PM CST up reply actions  

We call that "kicking the can down the road".

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

Yup, the Cubs are paying for it now big time.

But theyve always fucked shit up so whatever.

We only respectable members of the blog to any kind of standard. - Grinder In Training

by omnipotent grab on Dec 3, 2010 6:42 PM CST up reply actions  

My favorite Scott Linebrink memory is when Scott Linebrink was traded to Atlanta

My second favorite Scott Linebrink memory is the thread when SSS came to the consensus that Scott Linebrink sucks. I believe HSA posted it above.

My third favorite Scott Linebrink memory is that we only had to give 1.5 million away with him, which essentially makes AJ Pierzynski free for us this year.

The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.

by blackoutsox on Dec 3, 2010 2:13 PM CST reply actions  

my favorite memory

was that flinchy thing Linebrink did whenever the batter swung. Where he’d duck his head and put his hands up to deflect the rocket he always assumed (for good reason) was going to hit him in the melon.

Everything else is foggy, and its better that way.

nordy

I shant be misled a second time

by Nordhagen on Dec 3, 2010 2:13 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I think Hawk alluded to this once or twice.

You have to wonder if it was a cause or effect of his performance.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 3, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions  

peavy! manny! rios! jackson!

I don’t think he ever left. He gambles.

by coffeepac on Dec 3, 2010 2:33 PM CST up reply actions  

better question is: where has Jerry's wallet been the past few years

not that we haven’t spent money, but man, this is special.

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Dec 3, 2010 2:37 PM CST up reply actions  

You're kidding.

Peavy and Rios alone in 2009 were huge contracts.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 2:38 PM CST up reply actions  

OC

is not that bright if you have yet to notice.

skeletons don't like closets.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 3, 2010 4:40 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

What a fantastic few days we have going on here.

2011 White Sox are gettin’ everyone all giddy, SSS seems to be back from the, uh, brink, and it’s no-pants Friday in Chicago.

Too bad about Santo, though.

The sky IS falling.

by Uribe Down on Dec 3, 2010 2:28 PM CST reply actions  

Haven't won anything yet.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 2:31 PM CST up reply actions  

So are we over being bored yet?

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 2:29 PM CST reply actions  

yes, very much so

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Dec 3, 2010 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

That is still one of the best sigs on the planet, OnC.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 2:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Liney...

never really knew how to win (though that wasnt his position), but sure as hell knew how to lose

"Statistics are about as interesting as first base coaches" Jim Bouton

by Grinder Rule #42 on Dec 3, 2010 2:30 PM CST reply actions  

Lol

Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 3, 2010 2:32 PM CST up reply actions  

in '10, Ozzie let Linebrink come in with leverage over 1 in just 11 of his 56 appearances

in those 11 appearances, WPA says he lost us full win and a quarter.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 3, 2010 2:46 PM CST reply actions  

OPS against in 10 by leverage

low .758
med .917
high .833

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 3, 2010 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

but lets be honest. We hate him for 09

low .820
med .957
high .939

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 3, 2010 3:00 PM CST up reply actions  

Sweet Thorndog in 2010

low .539
med .604
high forget about it .518

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 3, 2010 3:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Leadshrink was a colossal disappointment, but

at least for the first 10-12 weeks of 2008 he was pretty darn good as a set up man for Jenks and was one reason why they got out of the gate strong that year. As for the rest of it, that Linebrink never returned. May they find him in Atlanta.

by VAChisox on Dec 3, 2010 2:51 PM CST reply actions  

right, until his shoulder problems

we talk about it

larry was prophetic there of course

thanks for the half season, scott.
by larry on Jul 26, 2008 10:55 AM CDT

I shant be misled a second time

by Nordhagen on Dec 3, 2010 2:58 PM CST up reply actions  

this

i remembered this comment

"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Dec 4, 2010 5:04 AM CST up reply actions  

Adam Dunn presser

Anyone know if there is a video of it online.

Oh, and something to dream about tonight. When Dunn was walking on USCF earlier today, he asked the media if anyone has it the Miller Light sign in right field yet.

by nsam93 on Dec 3, 2010 3:20 PM CST reply actions  

Speaking of memorials: Sheehan on Santo:

A long time ago, I wrote a piece for ESPN.com advocating Ron Santo for a spot in the Hall of Fame. Depending on what day you ask me, I’ll tell you that Santo or Bert Blyleven is the best player in baseball history eligible but not enshrined. At the time I wrote it, that was the extent of my knowledge of Santo — as a player, a performance record, really.

The thing is, I still get two to four e-mails a year from people who come across the piece, and the reactions always get to me. People in Chicago absolutely love this man, not even for who he was on the field, but for who he has been off of it. I didn’t know this when I wrote the piece, but once every couple of months, right as rain, I’ll get a missive from some Santo fan up in arms about the Hall’s failure to welcome their hero, and thanking me for making the case for him. The e-mails never mention OPS+ or the 1960s or defense. They always make reference to Santo’s deep and abiding love of the game and of the Cubs, his ongoing fight with diabetes, and his character. They identified with Santo not as a great baseball player, but as an extension and expression, in the radio booth, of their own passions.

I don’t know the man. I know Ron Santo entirely through his work and these e-mails. Based on that, however, I think he was too good for the Hall of Fame. It’s their loss.

To those e-mailers, and the millions of Cubs fans just like them who miss their voice today, you have my sympathies.

Intoxicated with the wine of cloaking powers and the gin of banning authority since 2005.

by Chiburb on Dec 3, 2010 3:30 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

I hate to admit this -

but my baseball glove in Little League as a SS was the Wilson A2000 – because Santo used it. What can I say – he was stout in the mid-’60’s, Italian, and the whole family loved the Cubs (except me).

I also met him at a few Lion’s Club father-son dinners. Very engaging, always had time for us pain in the ass kids. I liked him. It would almost be like Looie Aparicio passing on for me, so I can empathise with the Cub fans’ pain.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 3:36 PM CST up reply actions  

don't ever compare santo to leeeeetle looie

If is is one handed shitting. by winningugly

by mick10 on Dec 3, 2010 6:29 PM CST up reply actions  

Cubs/Sox fandom is tough to compare.

But there are fan loyalty similarities.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 6:30 PM CST up reply actions  

fan loyalty similarities

maybe so up through the 70’s

"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Dec 4, 2010 5:06 AM CST up reply actions  

You troll here enough here in the first place anyway

OMFFGWTFLEMONGRASSONABBQ!!
Marian Hossa is Marian Hossa and we are not. Class dismissed.
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by chisoxfan1473 on Dec 3, 2010 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

if you are going to try and burn me

at least get it right.

skeletons don't like closets.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 3, 2010 4:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Heard Dunn on ESPN 1000 while on the Kennedy a few minutes ago

Basically said he is confident for 45 homeruns and said he could hit the Miller sign. He has never played in the Cell. Edward Norton is his favorite actor, country is is favortie music. He ate an Al’s beef today and he thinks he could QB better than half the QB’s in the NFL. Also his #1 priority was coming to Chicago this offseason. He said Chicago…not the Sox.

by Rhubarb on Dec 3, 2010 3:32 PM CST reply actions  

should have went to portillos.

if he wanted the best beef in town… I finally decided to try the taylor st. location, meh.

skeletons don't like closets.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 3, 2010 6:14 PM CST up reply actions  

that is awesome!

i mean don’t get me wrong, al’s is good but overall taste and value… I mean $14 dollars for a big beef, soft drink, and potatoes? CMON MAN! I can grab an actual BIG beef with fries and drink for $11 and change and get 2 meals out of it…

skeletons don't like closets.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 4, 2010 12:01 AM CST up reply actions  

aj

I’m hearing 2 / 6 for how the money is broken up in his contract.

by shaftr on Dec 3, 2010 3:34 PM CST reply actions  

from whitesox.com
The White Sox also have agreed to terms on a two-year, $8-million contract with catcher A.J. Pierzynski. Under terms of the deal, Pierzynski will earn $2 million in 2011 and $6 million in 2012.

The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.

by blackoutsox on Dec 3, 2010 3:38 PM CST up reply actions  

i received it in an email from whitesox.com

The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.

by blackoutsox on Dec 3, 2010 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

I don't recall any of us saying it wouldn't happen necessarily.

Just that it was risky practice, especially for the White Sox.

by 3E8 on Dec 3, 2010 4:16 PM CST up reply actions  

that's my recollection too.

DB, otoh, was arguing for it as a wise strategy.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 3, 2010 4:18 PM CST up reply actions  

I was arguing for it

because I thought it was the most practical way to accomplish the goals of the offseason given the obstacles. Normally I wouldn’t advocate it as it is risky and usually unnecessary.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 3, 2010 4:22 PM CST up reply actions  

you set that goal for the team.

the alternative is to punt on that as a goal. deciding to get cute is exactly how these things turn problematic. loss aversion and all that.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 3, 2010 4:39 PM CST up reply actions  

that makes more sense.

still, the only way this is a decent deal for the Braves is if his HR/FB has been bad luck for 4 straight seasons. it’s possible, but i don’t know why you’d pick him to bet on.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 3, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Still, it's a great deal.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 3:44 PM CST up reply actions  

definitely.

KW can find a suitable reliever with the money leftover.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 3, 2010 3:47 PM CST up reply actions  

So we are paying him to go away.

Fine. The Braves are not idiots, so we didn’t pants them. But the ol’ “addition by subtraction” works at minimum. The joy can continue unabated. I, for one, didn’t think we COULD pay anyone to take him.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

How?

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

The Sox saved half of what was originally reported.

They’re still paying Linebrink $3.5 million. If that’s the best they could do, cool, but reality is a harsh mistress.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 3, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

He gone.

That counts for a lot.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

it's not underwhelming

if they’re doing better than they were before.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 3, 2010 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

That two million..

might be what makes them just able to afford bringing Konerko back.

"There he was!!! Dirtying his shiny Sox helmet!!!" - homesickalien at the brief glimpse of Manny Ramirez

by Servant2LordBeckham on Dec 3, 2010 4:23 PM CST up reply actions  

THIS.

FOR THE LOVE OF CHRIST, THIS.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 6:31 PM CST up reply actions  

I thought maybe at the deadline. Not now.

Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT

by Shoeless In SC on Dec 4, 2010 11:26 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm still whelmed

I shant be misled a second time

by Nordhagen on Dec 3, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions  

maybe less whelming

but still quite whelming

Hope he’s not writing the 2011 White Sox Anal too. -Sox Machine

by Jack M on Dec 3, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions  

So who is the new designated brick-shitter now

Or is that being retired with the departure of Linebrink?

OMFFGWTFLEMONGRASSONABBQ!!
Marian Hossa is Marian Hossa and we are not. Class dismissed.
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by chisoxfan1473 on Dec 3, 2010 3:40 PM CST reply actions  

teahans

The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.

by blackoutsox on Dec 3, 2010 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

let's talk payroll

if AJ is at 2 / Dunn is at 12 / Linebrink is 2.5

According to my estimates + the amazingly handy payroll info available here, that puts the current payroll at 91.55. What are the estimates for Danks/Pena/Quentin? How much would Konerko be?

by shaftr on Dec 3, 2010 3:43 PM CST reply actions  

Paulie is at least 3 years, $14MM/year.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 3:51 PM CST up reply actions  

Ick -- I hope not

I think folks here are getting sentimental and overrating PK quite a bit. Konerko is 35 on opening day 2011. I think I’d rather take the Konerko money and invest it in Lee/LaRoche/Pena/Cust/Manny + legit 4th OFer + bullpen/6th starter.

by CWSKeith on Dec 3, 2010 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Well I dont know if he wants 14 million

but those guys didnt defer money for you to bring in Jack Cust and company

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 3, 2010 4:38 PM CST up reply actions  

is PK the best hitter on the market?

and those guys signed their deals looking for a good faith effort. i’m sure they’ve been apprised of the situation.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 3, 2010 4:41 PM CST up reply actions  

Says the guy who didn't defer cash.

I know what you saying but……

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 3, 2010 4:44 PM CST up reply actions  

i'm not saying that KW can afford to pocket any of that money

i’m sure his reputation as a GM who will go for it gives you a chance to sign these guys in the first place.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 3, 2010 4:49 PM CST up reply actions  

Perception versus reality, I get that...

in the end, I just don’t think Konerko is going to be worth what the Sox pay him. I know KW isn’t one for patience, but the Sox might be better suited to wait a bit on Konerko. The reason I say this is because I’m not sure there are any attractive teams that are going to offer much more than 2/$20. Sure, Baltimore might get crazy and offer 3/$30, but does Konerko really want to spend his last big contract sitting in the AL East’s cellar? Maybe I haven’t been paying attention, but who are the teams who are risks to offer Konerko big money?

by CWSKeith on Dec 3, 2010 4:48 PM CST up reply actions  

i thought i read Boston on mlbtr

but i’m guessing they won’t get into a bidding war over an aging 1b.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 3, 2010 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

That is my private worry

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 3, 2010 4:50 PM CST up reply actions  

yep

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 3, 2010 4:52 PM CST up reply actions  

I'm not seeing it

rather, I think a lot of shit would have to happen in the next few weeks for that to occur, like, they miss out on Beltre and value Konerko over the other comparable 1B options and they don’t see another fit for that $10 million. The sum of those does not strike me as particularly likely, but YMMV.

by CWSKeith on Dec 3, 2010 4:56 PM CST up reply actions  

agreed, there are too many decent alternatives

for them to get hung up on Paulie.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 3, 2010 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

you would have to think they'd be in play

for fielder or gonzalez either this year or next, so it wouldn’t make much sense for them to offer paulie the sort of long-term contract he’d be looking for.

by craigws on Dec 3, 2010 5:12 PM CST up reply actions  

If they wanted, they could move Paul to DH

ad let Ortiz leave. I’m not sure why they would plan that, but I’m not sure why they would need Konerko, either.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 3, 2010 5:13 PM CST up reply actions  

good catch.

the Sox could be in on either, too. it wouldn’t be surprising to see Viciedo and whoever traded for either of them.

if the Sox have committed to backloading, the way you get out of that is to have your cheaper young guys break out, so i’ll say i prefer signing a big name FA.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 3, 2010 5:22 PM CST up reply actions  

alternatives...

Berkman’s still out there. i think he makes as much sense as Paulie, perhaps more since he’s coming off a down year.

really though, there are a ton of cheaper alternatives that would be pretty decent alternatives but don’t mean somewhat less symbolically:

Maggs, Hawpe, Manny, Pena, Vlad, Damon, etc.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 3, 2010 5:00 PM CST up reply actions  

berkman would be my plan B if paulie signs elsewhere.

u know how ozzie loves those switch hitters

skeletons don't like closets.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 3, 2010 5:04 PM CST up reply actions  

It would be interesting to know how the Sox view Dunn versus PK defensively at first

do they see Dunn at 1B as historically bad, as in the only time he should be out there is for the occasional day off and interleague game? Or is it something less, like he’s worse than Konerko, but no more than a win difference (if that)? If it’s the latter, the Sox obviously give themselves a ton more leeway.

by CWSKeith on Dec 3, 2010 5:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree I don't want them in any bidding war over PK

But I do think at even 80% of his numbers for the next 2 year window it puts the Sox in a fantastic position to compete.

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 3, 2010 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Keith, I respect you,

but you are a fucking lunatic if you think Paulie is taking <$14MM when Dunn, who has brought ZERO rings to town and is deferring $, is getting $14MM. Dunn being 31 mitigates his 4 years vs. my thoughts of PK getting 3 at 35 y/o.

If I’m Paulie I settle for nothing less. And it’s a good signing. He is our Jeter. (Chokes mentioning a Yankee.)

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 6:33 PM CST up reply actions  

Read carefully, Mr. WU

I have no idea what Konerko is going to end up taking. Actually, I have a ballpark figure, but he could get anywhere from $10-14 and it wouldn’t really surprise me. I’ll leave the prediction stuff to experts like yourself (said with a smile).

by CWSKeith on Dec 3, 2010 6:52 PM CST up reply actions  

Heh.

Point taken.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

Our Jeter is Jeter.

Everyone’s Jeter is Jeter. Even Jeter’s Jeter is Jeter.

by The Actual El Guapo on Dec 3, 2010 11:07 PM CST up reply actions  

6/2/5 are good estimates

so that’s 105.

btw, the way to do best guesses for arb: you get 40% of what you’re worth in year 1, 60% in year 2, 80% in year three. so divide by .4 for all three to get what their market value is. multiply by 1.1 to account for yearly inflation, then multiply by .6 to get their year 2 arb value.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Dec 3, 2010 3:51 PM CST up reply actions  

kenny says we get to enjoy another year of riding the Qnicorn.

Williams basically ruled out right fielder Carlos Quentin as a possible trade piece on Thursday.

“Quentin is playing right field,” he said. “[Manager Ozzie Guillen] will decide where he hits somewhere in the lineup.”

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101202&content_id=16245462&vkey=news_cws&c_id=cws

by craigws on Dec 3, 2010 3:52 PM CST reply actions  

glad to see him back

RF mess of course but have to live with something.

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 3, 2010 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

Hope he's paid no more than $4-4.5MM.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 3:59 PM CST up reply actions  

seems like repetition

at a position + training can make a difference to a player in the infield – see alexei’s continued improvement.
is it any different for the outfield? or are we just buggered because joey cora only ever played the infield?

by craigws on Dec 3, 2010 4:02 PM CST up reply actions  

or is it the argument

that alexei had the ability all along, he just had to concentrate?

by craigws on Dec 3, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Che had to adjust to a new culture, climate, and peer group re: performance.

Had little to do with “concentration”. And (laugh if you must) I believe Omar helped his maturation AND protecting his right side by playing 3B.

Q has had to adjust to marriage.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 4:06 PM CST up reply actions  

i was just thinking that it seems that every winter

you read about someone taking groundballs with joey cora, but you don’t read about anyone smashing flyballs at Q – or Dye before him for that matter.

by craigws on Dec 3, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions  

It seems like the Sox outfielders are usually capable defensively

or slow. Dye was probably a decent outfielder at one point-he won a gold glove, fwliw- but you can’t teach speed. Alexei always had the physical gifts to play shortstop very well.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 3, 2010 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

Ahem: Pods? And Q in LF was capable?

Other than his arm Q is horrific in the field. And he’s not slow.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions  

would good routes

be something you could learn through experience as opposed to innate talent? seems like it would.
though i don’t know how much i really want Q to be running around an outfield during the offseason.

by craigws on Dec 3, 2010 4:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, I'd think he should get a shitload of fly balls hit to him.

But I also think some guys are better at recognizing curvature/arcs better. Rogers Hornsby said you can train fielders, but hitters are born to hit.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 4:35 PM CST up reply actions  

Yes

but there probably is some inherent ability involved. Some guys, like Mike Cameron, seem to just have it.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 3, 2010 4:36 PM CST up reply actions  

He isn't very agile, then.

Whatever is limiting Q—injuries, marriage, whatever—it’s slowing him down. Pods was poor enough with his reads that his great speed made him tolerable. Alexei has the tools to be a good defensive player now, and it appears Quentin does not.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 3, 2010 4:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Q is better looking.

Has to say “no” lots more or feel guilt.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

I like this a lot.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 4:21 PM CST up reply actions  

As do I.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Dec 3, 2010 4:54 PM CST up reply actions  

lmao!

+1

skeletons don't like closets.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 3, 2010 5:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Hardware issues.

Should have never built him with components from RadioShack.

by 3E8 on Dec 3, 2010 7:17 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

You had better be at next May's methup, sir.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 7:22 PM CST up reply actions  

funny!

i am a bark for buffeting. i am a hound for thornypaws. i am a doe for swiftness. i am a tree for wind-siege. i am a windmill. i am a hole in a wall.

by BuehrleMan on Dec 3, 2010 9:50 PM CST up reply actions  

I totally just ran that through the Apple Basic emulator I keep up in my head.

"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb

by South Side Expat on Dec 3, 2010 9:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Why would we laugh? That seems entirely plausible.

Q’s taking the term “ball and chain” to heart. Er, processor.

The sky IS falling.

by Uribe Down on Dec 3, 2010 5:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Concentrate may not be the right word

Alexei is definitely more apt to play defense. Quentin at one time was supposedly a very good outfielder. Outfielders improve often, especially if they have not been an outfielder in the past.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 3, 2010 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

i didn't necessarily think it was the right word,

it is just something i have seen said about alexei in the past.

by craigws on Dec 3, 2010 4:10 PM CST up reply actions  

He sucked in left, too.

Plus he’s quite injury-prone. I’m not happy and thought he might make a decent DH. Not a happy moment. Maybe he finally bounces back.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 4:04 PM CST up reply actions  

it'd obviously be wonderful

if he did what he did in ‘08 again, but i don’t think he needs to.
slight improvement hitting-wise on last year without any injuries and that’ll suffice (taking the incredibly bad defence as a given).

by craigws on Dec 3, 2010 4:07 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll take a .850 OPS

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 3, 2010 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

this.

with what tdogg said is basically what i had in mind.

by craigws on Dec 3, 2010 4:11 PM CST up reply actions  

prob.

more like 550

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 3, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Barring...

OUCH!

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah

He’ll play some DH but prob not enough. Either way if Dunn and Konerko are in the lineup with him….

Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?

by Tdogg on Dec 3, 2010 4:08 PM CST up reply actions  

slow

even slower than my smart phone – if he can get out there and do average RF that will be a miracle – and with his feet that is very unlikely.
So he better start hitting

by hoodlight on Dec 3, 2010 7:09 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

It's ok to suck in LF more than in RF ala Kittle and Luzinski.

I’d rather see Q there than Pierre and have Beckham lead off. I’m expecting many doubles from him this year.
You say we’re stuck with Pierre? After the last couple days it wouldn’t surprise me to see Kenny move him.
As long as we’re dreaming.

Intoxicated with the wine of cloaking powers and the gin of banning authority since 2005.

by Chiburb on Dec 3, 2010 5:30 PM CST up reply actions  

We didn't get really far with Kittle and Luzinski.

Not my idea of a template. Jim Rice didn’t win a lot of rings in Boston, either, as their LF. Etc.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 6:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah. '83 didn't mean shit.

But you get my point: I’ll take a bat in LF over defense any day.
Especially these days.

Intoxicated with the wine of cloaking powers and the gin of banning authority since 2005.

by Chiburb on Dec 3, 2010 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

Yeah, a division title.

I want a higher bar set for success.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 7:03 PM CST up reply actions  

To whom?

Because we had no success for 24 years doesn’t mean it’s a great standard to have set for ourselves.

GET HUNGRY, KENWO. AND STAY THAT WAY.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 7:50 PM CST up reply actions  

It did to me. It was a good taste for a 5 year old.

"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb

by South Side Expat on Dec 3, 2010 7:55 PM CST up reply actions  

Favorite moment-

Having a shitty day at work today where I actually had to work and couldn’t lounge around on SSS all day, only to come home, crack a beer, and have this be the top thread. Oh glory of glories.

"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb

by South Side Expat on Dec 3, 2010 4:14 PM CST reply actions  

My best memory..

.. is that this news made me ecstatic enough to actually make a post on here for once.

Go Kenny!

by okconnection on Dec 3, 2010 4:49 PM CST reply actions  

You picked a good time. It's open enrollment right now.

First 100 new posters get a free coupon to TP’s mom.

"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb

by South Side Expat on Dec 3, 2010 5:21 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

doesn't somebody here write copy for them?

and are they planning a move to mountain view?

I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.

by thatshortkid on Dec 3, 2010 5:37 PM CST up reply actions  

I know a tech guy for them. The Goog talk is strong, but nothing yet.

"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb

by South Side Expat on Dec 3, 2010 6:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Hey, I finally get to break some news around these parts!

Google rejects the offer to buy Groupon.

I can’t imagine why, given the fantastic deals they have these days!

"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb

by South Side Expat on Dec 3, 2010 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

For now on I am going to be the welcome wagon at the front door and take the neo-newbs under my wing

you salty dogs aren’t welcoming enough but I don’t blame you…now let me kindly usher you out the backdoor for your own safety

by Rhubarb on Dec 3, 2010 5:51 PM CST up reply actions  

How did I miss this?

Rec’d.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 7:01 PM CST up reply actions  

my favorite memory of linebrink?

was when jenks got hurt in 08 and I proclaimed they should use dotel as the closer and not linebrink…. linebrink went on to fuck up a few games in a row to prove me right.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 3, 2010 5:46 PM CST reply actions  

HEY GUYS HOLY BALLS

i’m gone... bye bitches. - wtgtd

by BoeJouma on Dec 3, 2010 6:40 PM CST reply actions  

happy?

I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR MY BEHAVIOR!! I DAYDREAM WITH THE BEST OF THEM.......

by pierzynskirules on Dec 3, 2010 6:51 PM CST up reply actions  

bonerbonerbonerboner

i’m gone... bye bitches. - wtgtd

by BoeJouma on Dec 3, 2010 6:56 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

mushroom mushroom

"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb

by South Side Expat on Dec 3, 2010 6:59 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

its a snaaaaaaaaaake

"There's too many (bleeping) guys on the computer. It's simple. I say that. Pete Rose never watched a computer. Rod Carew never did. All those hitters, they go out and see the ball, hit it and move on." - Ozzie

by usualsuspect on Dec 3, 2010 7:00 PM CST up reply actions  

oh no put it down

I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR MY BEHAVIOR!! I DAYDREAM WITH THE BEST OF THEM.......

by pierzynskirules on Dec 3, 2010 7:05 PM CST up reply actions  

oh ozzie, you wag

“Oz very excited to have AJ back but shared a text he sent to catcher last nite: "I told him: Why did Kenny do this to me? ""

http://twitter.com/InsideTheSox/status/10815268590718976

by craigws on Dec 3, 2010 7:50 PM CST reply actions  

Ah, good times already.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 7:51 PM CST up reply actions  

AJ is known to be high maintenance

and has OCD. A great teammate but not an easy guy to hang with.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 7:54 PM CST up reply actions  

Give the man a new nintendo ds game and he'll be fine.

"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb

by South Side Expat on Dec 3, 2010 7:56 PM CST up reply actions  

I have a pal with the OCD

it’s a nightmare getting him out for a drink – left the gas on, the taps are still running, the cat is out, forgot to wipe the toilet seat; and on and on. We just arrange to meet him two hours before the time – and he will be still late – worrying about the electric meter or some other nonsense.

by hoodlight on Dec 3, 2010 7:58 PM CST up reply actions  

So now you see.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 8:01 PM CST up reply actions  

yes - thank you

how is the wine going?
I am drinking very nice Cotes Du Rhone, Villages – very tasty
It’s fuc=king freezing in Leeds snow all week – I gashed my face last night slipping over it’s that icy

by hoodlight on Dec 3, 2010 8:05 PM CST up reply actions  

Sucks for him

but I wouldn’t socialize with this guy, sounds too annoying. I’ll e-mail him and attend his funeral but that’s about it.

by Gentleman Jim on Dec 3, 2010 9:15 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Excellent.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Dec 3, 2010 9:17 PM CST up reply actions  

Remember that time years ago, when Ozzie said something along the lines of....

You hate AJ if you’re playing against him.
And you hate him a little less if he’s on your team.

...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.

by homesickalien on Dec 3, 2010 9:16 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe Q needs to attend these meetings:
NEW YORK—In what has become the foremost annual conference of baseball-glove-wearing theory, major-league players past and present once again gathered at the Jacob K. Javits Convention Center in Manhattan this week to discuss the advantages and disadvantages of wearing their index fingers on the outside of their baseball mitts.

http://www.theonion.com/articles/baseball-players-hold-annual-meeting-to-discuss-be,18574/

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Dec 3, 2010 7:58 PM CST reply actions  

interesting to see that hahn was the one that called aj

and to see how close aj was to leaving:

http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20101203&content_id=16250624&vkey=news_cws&c_id=cws

i would have liked to see flowers given a chance, but it does endear you to a player when you read the sort of things that aj was saying there. we’ll see how endearing he is come next june.

by craigws on Dec 3, 2010 8:23 PM CST reply actions  

flowers will get a chance in AAA

for years to come

I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR MY BEHAVIOR!! I DAYDREAM WITH THE BEST OF THEM.......

by pierzynskirules on Dec 3, 2010 8:26 PM CST up reply actions  

yuck
In the world of manager Ozzie Guillen, Dunn will see action in the field at both first and left field, while also anchoring the designated hitter slot.

by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 3, 2010 8:43 PM CST up reply actions  

AJ's contract proves the sox read him right on arb.

I was leaning toward offering arb thinking he would get better offers elsewhere. Turns out the sox saved a few million dollars by playing it this way. It’s also evident and good to know AJ wants to be in Chicago.

If is is one handed shitting. by winningugly

by mick10 on Dec 4, 2010 1:15 AM CST up reply actions  

this

"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Dec 4, 2010 6:42 AM CST up reply actions  

priceless (via twinkietown):
Saw Adam Dunn this summer at Nationals Park against the Reds (Bachelor Party)
From what I heard from both fanbases is that he can be described in these AL Central terms:
He swings at pitches out of the zone, like an older Carlos Gomez and is Brandon Inge-esque in the field.
by Yabbs on Dec 3, 2010 12:51 AM CST reply action

by Andronicus on Dec 3, 2010 8:41 PM CST reply actions  

hes gotta be kidding

comparing dunn to gomez lol

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 3, 2010 8:42 PM CST up reply actions  

Or a younger Ron....

… crap, too soon.
(I don’t care. I come to bury Santo, not to praise him.)

"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb

by South Side Expat on Dec 4, 2010 12:02 AM CST up reply actions  

that guy beat me to posting my short list of adam dunn comparables:

carlos gomez (an older version)
brandon inge (defensively)

Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.

by MarketMaker on Dec 3, 2010 11:37 PM CST up reply actions  

$13.5 million for 3-years is what the Sox paid this hillbilly turd

and throwing in some additional cash as well. If my memory serves me correctly, he was worth a shit for half a season.

I thought Ben Wallace was a bastard….

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 4, 2010 12:11 AM CST reply actions  

Ben Wallace was worth it for a full seasons worth.

"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb

by South Side Expat on Dec 4, 2010 12:17 AM CST up reply actions  

bye bye sig line.... :(

"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 4, 2010 12:15 AM CST reply actions  

:(

EH whatever, he failed us a ton (pun intended) the last few years…

skeletons don't like closets.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Dec 4, 2010 12:17 AM CST up reply actions  

i r drinkkssss and like da sowx

The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.

by blackoutsox on Dec 4, 2010 12:20 AM CST reply actions  

competing execs = ??? what a source Heyman
Execs Think Konerko Will Stay With White Sox
By Mark Polishuk [December 3 at 11:14pm CST]
“Competing execs” think Paul Konerko will ultimately re-sign with the White Sox for around $13MM per season, tweets Jon Heyman of Sports Illustrated. Konerko’s close relationship with owner Jerry Reinsdorf is cited as a main factor.

The Cubs, Orioles and Rangers have all been mentioned as suitors for Konerko this winter, and the Orioles have made Konerko an offer. Still, moving elsewhere could be a tough call for Konerko given his ties to the White Sox and the fact that the team seems to be doing all it can to find payroll space for him. Adam Dunn and A.J. Pierzynski deferred money from their contracts just so the Sox could have more cash available in 2011 to re-sign Konerko. “They literally put their money where their mouth is so we can put a better offer on the table for Paulie,” GM Kenny Williams told MLB.com’s Scott Merkin.

"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 4, 2010 12:20 AM CST reply actions  

Thanks for the memories, Liney, and good luck in Atlanta.

(comment edited for content)

It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT

by rhythm on Dec 4, 2010 12:29 AM CST reply actions  

I look forward to Linebrink giving up late-inning home runs to the Phillies.

"We're going to try and knock the crap out of everybody." ~ Brian Urlacher

by HappyHuman on Dec 4, 2010 12:39 AM CST reply actions  

what about the sox????

The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.

by blackoutsox on Dec 4, 2010 12:48 AM CST up reply actions  

Scott - best wishes in Atlanta - rhythm

I was at the Sox vs. A’s game in Sept. this year when BHB left in the first inning and Pena pulled a rabbit out of his hat to provide what amounted to a quality start.

Linebrink shit the bed that game, obviously, and seeing him walk back into the clubhouse was quite sad. His face was completely red, like egus when he’s lit, and his head hung low.

I yelled something like “Good effort out there Scott, you’ll get ’em tomorrow”, knowing full well that it was a complete lie. If he pitched the next day, he would still suck.

Anyways, thought I’d share.

It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT

by rhythm on Dec 4, 2010 1:52 AM CST reply actions   1 recs

that actually was me.

i just didnt have it that day.

i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws

by e-gus on Dec 4, 2010 2:03 AM CST up reply actions   2 recs

thank god you're off the team

The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.

by blackoutsox on Dec 4, 2010 2:08 AM CST up reply actions  

rec'd

"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Dec 4, 2010 6:44 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm a little crossed eyed this morning

And I thought you said ‘fuck melt’. Wondering what you had against ‘beltin bill’. Did he sleep with you sister or something? Then I reread and felt better. UNTIL I saw that PUNTO and the Indians have mutual interest. WHAT?! Can we please get this beast out of the division?!

Oh and Gonzalez to the red sox. One less suiter for Paulie. But, I don’t like that he’s going to the AL.

"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."

by BobbySouthSide on Dec 4, 2010 6:52 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

I vaguely recall attempting to read many of these comments 7 hours ago.

I too was drink, in celebration of our glorious White Sox.

X__Adam Dunn_________________

by RWShow on Dec 4, 2010 9:15 AM CST up reply actions  

Snow football!!!

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Dec 4, 2010 8:45 AM CST reply actions  

SouthSideSox is hearing that Adrian Gonzalez is being traded to the Sox.

red sox, of course.

Hearing that #RedSox package for Adrian Gonzalez includes: Casey Kelly, Anthony Rizzo and Reymond Fuentes.

http://twitter.com/SI_JonHeyman/status/11076386257108992

by larry on Dec 4, 2010 9:29 AM CST reply actions  

also a PTBNL, i believe

Hope he’s not writing the 2011 White Sox Anal too. -Sox Machine

by Jack M on Dec 4, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions  

2009

linebrink gives up 3 run homer in 8th to blow 3 run lead to the royals. Sox score in the bottom of the 8th and linebrink gets the win.

i loooooooove cotton candy

by 23chisox14 on Dec 4, 2010 2:08 PM CST reply actions  

haha

greenberg is funny

Williams should get a plaque at Cooperstown for getting the Braves to pay Linebrink $3, let alone $3 million. Nice guy, but he’s about through.

"Statistics are about as interesting as first base coaches" Jim Bouton

by Grinder Rule #42 on Dec 6, 2010 11:27 AM CST reply actions  

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