White Sox Pen Isn't Leaky Because There Is No Ship Yet
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 10:19 AM CST
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PrintThe heaviest of Kenny Williams' lifting has been done; resigning AJ Pierzynski/Paul Konerko and inking Adam Dunn. The most glaring of faults from 2010 has been fixed, as Williams has added a left-handed, 40 home run threat to the lineup as a DH. Having seen his brawn, we must now see Kenny’s brain. Hawk is fond of saying that a bullpen makes or breaks a contender and there is no doubt ours needs work. For the first time in 5 years, Bobby Jenks will not be our closer, but his return isn’t impossible.
As I've written elsewhere*, the AL figures to be absolutely stacked in 2011. Relievers are going to be critical for success and the White Sox have a really good foundation in Tony Pena, Sergio Santos and the best reliever on earth not named Mariano. Thornton can’t go after those candy-ass M&M boys up north, the new two-headed monster in Boston and the Yankees by himself. Tony Pena is just a guy and I don’t have any reason to think that Santos will be as effective again.
Below are some of the free agent relievers. There are some interesting names, but I have abandoned my previous ranking system. Bullpens from year to year are the most difficult thing to make in major league baseball (unless you’re Kevin Towers) because sometimes relievers have great years (2005) and sometimes they just suck (2007). I'm not going to think up trade scenarios, but feel free in the comments.
Chris Sale: Kenny says he envisions Sale as a starter, Ozzie says a reliever and Cowley sensationalizes the whole thing into a steel cage match (not really, I just wanted to get in a Cowley shot). Chris Sale was really impressive last season and Joe Mauer was quoted on Joe Cowley’s twitter as saying that Sale made him "uncomfortable" (Cowley’s twitter handle is @cst_sox)**, but I have my concerns about rushing him [Sale was recently weighed and came in at less than an iPhone power cord]. I do not question his talent, determination or ceiling, just his readiness for a full 162 game MLB season.
Tim Byrdak: a local guy from Oak Forest, Byrdak is the definition of a loogy (lefty one-out guy). A career OPS+ of 125 against righties, 71 against lefties for Houston, Detroit, Kansas City and Baltimore, he could be effective. Ozzie has a history of preferring guys who can just get guys out as opposed to just certain guys (no one really wants to remember Mike Myers stint here, do they?) so we’ll see. 2010 pay: $1.6 million.
Scott Downs: he’s been in Canada for a while and was rumored to have elicited interest from the Yankees at the trade deadline and I can’t imagine that interest has decreased given what both we and Boston have added***. He put up some really good numbers in 2010, given that he was going up against the best of AL East often. $4 million in 2010, probably looking for a Linebrink or Benoit type deal (GMs are almost as down about that deal as Keith Law is) of around 3 years, $15 mill. Outside of our budget, unless we keep backloading, and a type A free agent.
Randy Choate: crude nickname opportunities aside, he’s ‘my guy.’ Spent last year with the Rays and was good for the Rays, but he is another loogy. 35.1 IP against lefties.... only 9.1 IP against righties (along with a difference of over 5 FIP) in the ’10. Made only(heh) $700,000 last year, so he might be a fiscal fit.
Joe Beimel: he only pitched 45 innings in 2010, but was the Nationals set up guy in 2009. Another lefty, he’s less of a loogy than some of the above mentions, but better against lefties (with 6 more IP against them than righties). A lower BABIP, by .018 than his career, and a higher LOB%, by 6.4% would seem to indicate he’s due for some regression, but if you can survive your home games in Coors Field... 2010 pay: $850,000.
Brian Fuentes: came back to earth the past two years in LAA after a storied run with the Rockies. Acquired by the dreaded Twains to be part of their Three Stoogies Closer act, he was good for all of 9 innings. Boston is interested, and his 2010 salary of $10 million probably means we won’t be calling. I’m fine with that, I’m not really interested in a fly-ball reliever at U.S. Cellular.
Kerry Wood: despite the injury/Cub history, I’m interested. Some here would get more pleasure from a former Cub legend coming to the Sox and being successful than others; I just think the guy is a good reliever. The contract numbers being floated are around 2 years, $9 mill which is great, but doubtful. He made $10.5 million last year and dominated as Rivera’s set-up man. Still lives in Chicago, obviously likes it here, may be tempted to come to either side of town. Or stay in New York, since the Yankees new pitching coach is Larry Rothschild. Talent says, "Yes." Money says, "No."
Grant Balfour: well, he certainly won the ‘dirt-kicking’ match-up a few years ago. But, I digress. The Aussie right-handed somewhat surprisingly turned down the Rays arbitration offer and seems to think he can get a multi-year deal. (Shrugs). Maybe he can – he certainly had a good enough ’08, ’09 and ’10 to justify a 3 year, $12 mill deal. He's a type A, so you'll lose a draft pick. Part of his increase in success was cutting down on walks, but he did get a bit of a boost from BABIP and LOB. Solid option.
Rafael Soriano: Oh, the same ol’ song and dance. And he’ll cost you a draft pick, part of the reason the Rays are letting him go. The best "closer" on the market, the Sox will most likely pass.
Bobby Jenks: We all know the resume. And the frustration. And the success. Obviously, if the money makes sense, you bring him back. Williams hinted that the market might not get Bobby what he wants so if you could get Bobby to drop some weight, you’d be okay. And we’ll always have this, this and this.
[Baseball-related] thoughts, everyone? Kenny is obviously thinking trade market, but they clearly signed AJ, Donkey and Kong to deals that would allow them to have some dollars left.
* = And I wrote that before Cliff Lee and Carl Crawford signed, so adjust accordingly.
** = My work computer blocks twitter, so I am unable to link it directly.
*** = Let’s dispense with the idea that Boston and New York operate in a vacuum. Every AL team keeps close tabs on what every other AL team does. BOS/NYY may hate each other, but their mutual interest in lefties is as much about Carl Crawford/Adrian Gonzalez/Mark Teixeira/Curtis Granderson as it is about Josh Hamilton/Joe Mauer/Justin "My Head Hurts" Morneau/Adam Dunn and Victor Martinez].
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I really wasn't trying for that.
It was more attempting (ATTEMPTING) a pun on the ‘leaky pen’ headlines you see around ’pen implosions.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 10:29 AM CST up reply actions
They want you, they want you!
Where can you find pleasure
Search the world for treasure
Learn science technology
Where can you begin to make your dreams all come true
On the land or on the sea
Where can you learn to fly
Play in sports and skin dive
Study oceanography
Sign up for the big band
Or sit in the grandstand
When your team and others meet…
In the navy
Yes, you can sail the seven seas
In the navy
Yes, you can put your mind at ease
In the navy
Come on now, people, make a stand
In the navy, in the navy
Can’t you see we need a hand
In the navy
Come on, protect the motherland
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In the navy, in the navy, in the navy
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 9, 2010 10:30 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
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Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
A gay man posting a photo of Kylie Minogue, I am shocked.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 9, 2010 11:39 AM CST up reply actions
I break as many stereotypes as a I can.
But I has my limits.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 11:44 AM CST up reply actions
Tell me you wouldn't blow one of them to intercourse her.
by TasteeFreeze on Dec 9, 2010 12:09 PM CST up reply actions
Uhhhhhh.... Hm.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 9, 2010 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
it's an expression
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Dec 9, 2010 1:08 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Clearly an expression said by closeted homosexuals
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 9, 2010 1:16 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You've never heard the expression:
“I’d blow him to fuck her.” Meaning the girl is so hot, you’d do something abhorrent (for yourself) in order to get with her.
i havent either
but i have heard ’i’d eat through a mile of shit to suck the corn out of her a-hole.’
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
I gotta shower now, thanks...
".... and in closing, lick. my. balls." - U God
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 10, 2010 12:14 AM CST up reply actions
No. I never have.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 9, 2010 6:07 PM CST up reply actions
I like Beimel and Choate
I just want to say “Choate licker!” a few times next season.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
When I looked at the list Colin provided in the other thread
Beimel was the name that made the most sense to me too.
Thanks for doing the legwork 2ndhalf.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 9, 2010 10:37 AM CST up reply actions
Cheap, lefty
Doesn’t require Dayan Viciedo changing uniforms. I’m not suggesting he should be our closer or set up man by any means, but to fill out the bullpen, I’m fine with him.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 9, 2010 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
The White Sox have allowed Viciedo to not change clothes?
What happens when he gets food all over the alternative black top?
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
i'd rather just give that job to leesman
if it’s a who cares spot, let’s not pay twice what he’s worth.
Fireworks: Bang?
soriano will only cost a team one draft pick
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
I know the Rays will get two draft picks when he signs somewhere else
but will the signing team only be giving up 1?
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 10:42 AM CST up reply actions
yeah
the way type a’s work is the signing team loses their first round to the former team. the former team also gains a sandwich pick. if the signing team is in the protected group (first half of the first round), the former team gets boned and gets the sandwich pick and the signing team’s second rounder.
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
Knew the first part, not the second.
Thanks.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
cliff lee signed?
i’d go for choate or beimel as well and hopefully carter can win a spot…i really hate watching tony pena in the 7th or 8th innings….
Not yet, but the yankees have offered a 7 year deal
and he won’t be on the table for long. I think he’s going Yankees.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
I didnt see there was a front pager on this
Im basically just moving my thoughts over.
I don’t have any reason to think that Santos will be as effective again.
sure you do. He throw freaking hard 9.75k/9 and has a year more experience pitching.
identify some strength and take some cheap shots. Folks like Belisle or Clippard. I want 2-3 hard throwing, high leverage guys and some cheap filler chances.
No need to spend a fortune on bullpen.
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
by Tdogg on Dec 9, 2010 10:46 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
totally agree
Why wouldn’t Santos get better?
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
It's not that he won't get better
and I don’t hope he fails, obviously. It’s that he has no track record before last year so as to predict what his development may be. He could have been a one year wonder. I hope not, but unlike the other guys, I don’t have any real way of evaluating him going forward. That’s all I meant.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 10:49 AM CST up reply actions
I think he just got worn down in his first full year of pitching at the ML level.
He’s eaten alot of beef this offseason, so he’s probably stronger.
by TasteeFreeze on Dec 9, 2010 10:50 AM CST up reply actions
You usually don't until they get the chance to show they can consistently
Does Santos have the tools? Yes. This is similar to folks saying “I don’t know if he can close”. In reality every closer had the question until they were given sufficient chances.
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
so equally you could have said
“i don’t have any reason to think that santos won’t be as effective again”
Yes, my phrasing was admittedly poor.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 1:12 PM CST up reply actions
Pardon if this has been discussed to death
but is there some statistical basis to the concept of a pitcher who starts out effective and then the scouts get wise to his tendencies and he fails to adjust (for example because his repertoire is limited)?
Without knowing about such a quantifiable basis, could this possibly account for the relatively less awesome Santos we saw in the later part of the season? Is it something to be concerned about?
"Hawk Harrelson: Annoying even the hearing impaired": Teahenny Penny paraphrasing Chisoxfan1473
by NorthSidePaulie on Dec 9, 2010 3:44 PM CST up reply actions
The White Sox have a manager
who isn’t afraid to use a bullpen but in reality doesn’t have to use it as much as other teams. One of the benefits of a strong rotation. The last 3 years the team has finished 4 or less from the bottom in RP innings.
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
From 04-07
The Sox were 1st in least innings used from the bullpen in the AL
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
and ozzie is not dusty baker
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Dec 9, 2010 11:57 AM CST up reply actions
I just met Dusty 2 nights ago.
Nice guy.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
i don't doubt that, was it more than just small chat?
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Dec 9, 2010 1:09 PM CST up reply actions
That's all it was.
Next time I’ll ask him the serious stuff. And then not be able to tell you.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
i'd ask him questions about hank aaron
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Dec 9, 2010 1:52 PM CST up reply actions
Ask him if players were into anal back in the 60's.
A buddy told me a story that he was in LA for business, once. Sparky Anderson was being interviewed on the TV by the local news-lady. They were taking call-in questions.
The first caller asks, “Sparky, who was the best hitter you ever managed, and how often do you eat pussy?” Sparky just starts going, “What?!?!” and without flinching or missing a beat, the news-lady just goes, “Okay lets go to the next caller, what’s your question, sir?”
by TasteeFreeze on Dec 9, 2010 1:59 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
haha, great story
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Dec 9, 2010 2:04 PM CST up reply actions
I want them to sign Uehara.
He’s throws darts with good results(8.38 k/9inn, 1.38 bb/ 9inn, 6.06 k/bb) and destroyed the Sox last year.
Lets leave the gong out of it though when he comes out of the pen.
Then I want to trade Teahen and Viciedo together for another decent arm. I dont necessarily want to lose Viciedo, but see this as the only way dump him for some more addition by subtraction Linebrink style. Do it quick and there will still be some decent FA relief arms out there. Bobby?
Im also curious to see what kind of deals the starters coming off injuries will be offered like Webb, Francis, Bedard, etc. That might be a possibility as well.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
yeah i know i know
everyone knows teahen sucks.
couldnt even give me 5 minutes alone with my irrational fantasy.
sheesh.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
woohoo
fantasy alive.
shit did koji sign too?
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
Yes, 1 year, $5 mill.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
thats higher than I wanted to go anyway.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
*Scuse
It’s a one year deal with a vesting option for ’12. $3 mill for sure, $2 mill in incentives.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
bedard is a member of the mariners
resigned him last week
But injured pitchers are kind of a found entity. I don't see too many guys...
like Harden and Webb signing cheaply. They’ll get 8-10 mil just to rehab at AAA for a couple of months.
by TasteeFreeze on Dec 9, 2010 10:53 AM CST up reply actions
The new ad campaign....
The guy at the bank doesn't care how many trophies you've got!
by 67WMAQ on Dec 9, 2010 10:47 AM CST reply actions 5 recs
This is the real thing?
And not a SSS photo-shop piece of glory?
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 10:48 AM CST up reply actions
is that for real?
nice.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
screw you bob costas, poker rules
-the chicago white sox
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
Lets put Paul and Adam on an Ace and King and call them "Big Slick"
Kenwo’s nightmare hand – Danks and Floyd on A’s – “pocket rockets”
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
Sets up "WE FOLD" jokes nicely later in the year.
They did not think this through.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Dec 9, 2010 10:54 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
"Ozzie got sucked out on the river"
and “Floyd got the nut flush”
It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted
by Scotty Ballgame on Dec 9, 2010 12:13 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Show 4 players, like Robbie Alomar, and 3 others reputed to "hit from both sides"
and an open spot in the middle. “Trying to draw the inside straight.”
It seemed funnier when I started typing.
by TasteeFreeze on Dec 9, 2010 12:17 PM CST up reply actions
So, are we setting a limit
on the number of Lady GaGa references we can make, as per the nu regeme?
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 12:22 PM CST up reply actions
Depending on the poster, I believe the formula will be (n-1)
If one is unliked, one’s too many.
by TasteeFreeze on Dec 9, 2010 12:26 PM CST up reply actions
So that means WTGTD is out
What about that jesse guy from TT?
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 12:45 PM CST up reply actions
Its Regime:
Purity Of Language is one of the Founding Principles of the Noose.
".... and in closing, lick. my. balls." - U God
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 9, 2010 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
This gives me a bit of a stiffy.
"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb
by South Side Expat on Dec 9, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
Haven't heard the word stiffy since the Beavis and the Butthead days.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 9, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
Man, AJ looks thin
in that photo. Must not be new.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
Also, four of my six poker chips are White.
"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb
by South Side Expat on Dec 9, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions
and i like to arrange them in order
light, light, dark, light, light, dark
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
I'm probably looking to deeply into things
when I notice, and start asking questions about why, Floyd, Danks and Jackson aren’t there. Paging Prince Fielder/Jose Lopez/Adam Du…oh, wait….what?
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 11:06 AM CST up reply actions
Surely you're not talking about Mark "sausage" Kotsay!
by TasteeFreeze on Dec 9, 2010 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
a bobby the brain heenan reference
(if thats what was intended i don’t know…but it was accomplished)
Kenwo4life=ratings
Craaap!
Image disappeared
Here’s the link:
The guy at the bank doesn't care how many trophies you've got!
by 67WMAQ on Dec 9, 2010 11:11 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Sox Machine's "We've Folded" meme probably just dawned on them
They’re resurrecting a retro hybrid, something like “Are you ready? Because these Grinders can Play, like we did last summer”.
by TasteeFreeze on Dec 9, 2010 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
Good Guys Wear White Sox Traditions
White Sox Baseball: Because you got a B.
The guy at the bank doesn't care how many trophies you've got!
Grinder Rule 86: Back to the Grind or Grind Grinding
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Dec 9, 2010 11:33 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Grinder Baseball: something, something, World Series.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 11:35 AM CST up reply actions
Got it - that is fantastic.
Glad Che is one of the featured guys.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
that's awesome
Sox aren’t fooling around at all this winter. JR must really love that starting pitching staff, I wouldn’t be surprised if the medical reports are very encouraging re Peavy.
"We are strong enough as we are and everything fits together in such a way that the only thing we were going to add would be something of an impact guy," KW
what is the latest word on peavy? is he in rehab yet?
"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10
I dunno
Last I heard he was ahead of schedule. I doubt they’d be this aggressive if they didn’t think he’d be a major contributor this season.
"We are strong enough as we are and everything fits together in such a way that the only thing we were going to add would be something of an impact guy," KW
looks like we won't know until feb.
What Peavy was told Wednesday was everything is in place and there is no reason why he can’t "go full-bore’’ come February.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/2750633-419/peavy-sox-looks-guy-shoulder.html
"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10
Just a guess on my part
I just don’t think JR would be going $20mm over budget if there was a lot of uncertainty about Peavy’s ability to give them a lot of quality innings.
"We are strong enough as we are and everything fits together in such a way that the only thing we were going to add would be something of an impact guy," KW
Ouch
Didn’t think of that, total buzzkiller. He did say in the article that his lat is so atrophied it looks like a shriveled up raisin didn’t he? It’s probably one or the other, that’s a $20mm bet they’ve got riding on it.
"We are strong enough as we are and everything fits together in such a way that the only thing we were going to add would be something of an impact guy," KW
I read "shriveled raisin"
"The biggest issue is that you can tell right now that the right lat muscle is still smaller than the left one because of non-use,’’ Peavy said
"We are strong enough as we are and everything fits together in such a way that the only thing we were going to add would be something of an impact guy," KW
that's to be expected
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
Tell me doc
What’s the timetable for a muscle that’s atrophied for 6 months to catch up to its healthy opposite? 4 months to opening day seems reasonable, especially if he’s throwing already.
"We are strong enough as we are and everything fits together in such a way that the only thing we were going to add would be something of an impact guy," KW
it does seem reasonable
especially since his entire job is to get that muscle better, unlike a normal person undergoing physical therapy.
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
I would think so too
The front office must be pretty excited, that’s a fierce rotation if he’s healthy come April. I haven’t heard a peep about re-signing Freddie Garcia either. If they were worried about Peavy being useless they probably could’ve gotten Freddie cheap by now I would think.
"We are strong enough as we are and everything fits together in such a way that the only thing we were going to add would be something of an impact guy," KW
an athlete's muscle who is in the prime of his/her athletic career".
Fixed.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
Personally, I would like the same picture, but the blurb reads:
“Hit this in the face, motherfuckers!”
by TasteeFreeze on Dec 9, 2010 11:17 AM CST up reply actions
Paulie does look almost a little menacing there.
The best part about it… even though they probably told everyone to pose all serious like, Alexei STILL looks like he’s smiling.
"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb
by South Side Expat on Dec 9, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions
Whenever that happens to me, I right-mouse-button click on the "pitcure" and tell it to download pictures.
by TasteeFreeze on Dec 9, 2010 12:39 PM CST up reply actions
Thanks, smart ass.
When I mention it ain’t opening I’ve already tried numerous ways to open it.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
Thanks for your help, DB.
Craaap! Image disappeared
Here’s the link:
http://twitpic.com/3ednjl
The guy at the bank doesn’t care how many trophies you’ve got!
by 67WMAQ on Dec 9, 2010 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
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uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
It's clear from this ad Dunn still doesn't have a jersey number.
Which surprises me, cause you’d think they’d be busting their asses trying to sell t-shirts and jerseys.
Today's lesson in Guillenese: "Da Chicaja Juaiso."
he's still in negotiations with Peavy about it.
They are close, but he doesn’t want to budge on the ‘no more personal attacks’.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
by e-gus on Dec 9, 2010 2:02 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Vicideo
the fat cuban (as opposed to the anorexic cuban SS) is our best trade chip especially because 1B and DH are clogged for at least 3 years. We should be able to get a decent arm for him?
and at what point will people
realize trading real assets for bullpen arms is not a great idea?
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
yeah the only way im on board with that is if we shed teehans.
flowers and viciedo should probably stay here otherwise.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
Seriously, Viciedo goes to Arizona, or Baltimore, or Oakland...
and he comes out of spring training the starting 1b or DH. He gets 600 PAs, hits 30 HRs, .290/.295/.475, and is a serious contender for ROY. Why is he only worth Tony Pena Jr.?
If Viciedo was in the Yankees system, Keith Law, Baseball America, and anyone who even knows that the minor leagues exist would masturbate their dicks raw over him.
Viciedo is arguably a top hitting prospect who should get 2 bullpen arms and a good prospect in return, for starters.
by TasteeFreeze on Dec 9, 2010 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
so what do we do with him?
he cant play 3B, so keep him for insurance for dunn/konerko or just get the best package of pitchers?
lf in 2012
"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10
between LF, DH, 1B, 3B, there's probably 200-250 ABs for him.
He’s a Sunday starter, plays LF or DH against some lefties, or takes 1b while Konerko DHs.
His role expands in 2012.
by TasteeFreeze on Dec 9, 2010 11:11 AM CST up reply actions
exactly. the kid is 21 will be 22 by opening day.
we have invested enough $ into him and yet haven’t given him enough playing time in the majors to show himself. i would rather keep him then get a “decent” arm in return. pass
"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10
Im scared...
of the day Ozzie trots out Dunn and Q in the corner OFs, “Juan for 4” in CF, Vicideo at 1b, and T-bag at 3B.
Now you are on to something
Instead of worry over the bullpen. The Sox should be concerned with a legit 4th outfielder.
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
by Tdogg on Dec 9, 2010 11:24 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Well, Carl Crawford's off the market.
by TasteeFreeze on Dec 9, 2010 11:25 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Back to back rec's.
Well done.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
I heard about this guy
His name is Dewayne Wise….he’s never been given much of a chance to play but is a grinder, can play CF, and would be perfect in the leadoff spot
might as well throw jerry owens in the mix
"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10
Would I be an asshole to mention John Cangelosi
harry Chappas and Dave Gallagher?
by TasteeFreeze on Dec 9, 2010 12:41 PM CST up reply actions
gag, no thanks
"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10
TW2HAS.
Wait, that said “no, thanks”. Heh.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
OPOS is relentless. Have some mercy on the kid.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 9, 2010 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
At a certain point, they just reach an age where you smile, nod and move on.
It’s sad to watch people age disgracefully (shakes head). Oh well.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
disagree
i very much look forward to being a ‘dirty old man.’
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
Oh, so do I, because by that point i won't care and I won't know it.
But right now, it’s sad to watch it in others. Okay, ‘sad’ isn’t the right word. ‘Hilariously funny’ is.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 12:53 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I still have my cloak, dammit,
and I know how to use it. “Ageism” will not be tolerated on this site!
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
Well, so who the hell can we make fun of?!
I’m a gay, but I’m still a white male. I demand the right to mock some group for no reason!
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
I hate Illinois Nazis
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
by e-gus on Dec 9, 2010 1:37 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
x
"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb
by South Side Expat on Dec 9, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
This.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 9, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions
Why not?
I think there’s a dirty old man inside of all of us (too easy, let’s just move on).
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 12:58 PM CST up reply actions
Hmm.. I was wrong wu.. commence with the jokes.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 9, 2010 12:54 PM CST up reply actions
That safety word
was done without thought to you, just for the record.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 12:56 PM CST up reply actions
Ha, I assumed that, I was just making a joke.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 9, 2010 12:57 PM CST up reply actions
ASS/U/ME
Poor 2 1/2 Men. Always the donkey comment.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
I find my inner bigoted jagoff dies a little more and more the older I get.
We all have it in us, it’s just our life’s work to exorcise the shit our parents and surrounding adults poured into our head as a child.
Although the ironic, “make-fun-of-the-prejudice” racial jokes become harder to negotiate.
Funny.
I find my outer Democrate getting murdered everyday by other Democrates.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
Not real crates; just demos.
biceps-deep in fungible pumpkins.
by homesickalien on Dec 9, 2010 1:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Yes. Mannequins.
biceps-deep in fungible pumpkins.
by homesickalien on Dec 9, 2010 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
"20. Many who commit the basest actions often exercise the best discourse."
some good stuff here: http://www.sacred-texts.com/cla/gvp/gvp05.htm
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 9, 2010 1:20 PM CST up reply actions
Alright, so I've proven I'm not a complete idiot.
Now I just have to prove I know how to spell. But I’m still working on that.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
I've stopped reading liberal blogs
they drive me up a wall with all the “Obama stabbed us in the back” bullshit.
l’m a Keynsian, but the whole world seems to want austerity. Me being a pouty little bitch isn’t going to change it. Get a 2nd job.
Well, I wasn't trying to turn this into a political discussion
I’m the sort of White Sox fan that makes fun of myself for being a White Sox fan, Democrat for being Democrat, etc.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 1:53 PM CST up reply actions
Sorry for the confusion. Me neither
just tagging onto your “I like being a democrat except for other democrats” meme.
Back to baseball. I like baseball-y stuff.
Seems like there is a sufficient number of appointed moderators around here already.
This conversation began innocently and ended innocently quickly thereafter.
Probably best to avoid the beating of the dead horse whenever possible.
biceps-deep in fungible pumpkins.
by homesickalien on Dec 9, 2010 4:05 PM CST up reply actions
Caption this photo
Chris Singleton hunting with Gordon Beckham
The guy at the bank doesn't care how many trophies you've got!
If it's Chris Singleton
They’re probably hunting for souls to save.
by TasteeFreeze on Dec 9, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions
crusading for christ is he?
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Dec 9, 2010 12:04 PM CST up reply actions
Haven't seen this here anywhere but Dan put up his zips for Konerko
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
higher
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
A.K.A "Ko", or "erko" or "aul" or "Ul Ko"
we can just make up nicknames, too.
by TasteeFreeze on Dec 9, 2010 12:42 PM CST up reply actions
reminds me of when my friend tried to get 'Co-Blo' to stick as a nickname for Corie Blount.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
by e-gus on Dec 9, 2010 12:58 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Wondered the same thing
Has anyone ever called him The Nerk before?
by Grinder in Training on Dec 9, 2010 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
My dad calls him "Ko-nucks" for no particular reason.
So I do too, sometimes.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
Not to his face without immediately sustaining blunt impact trauma.
".... and in closing, lick. my. balls." - U God
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 9, 2010 4:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i call him konerk
and if he plays like shit he is konerk the jerk…. if he hits a homer its “he konerked one”
Kenwo4life=ratings
It would be worth the contract. But I think he does better. Would lay money on that.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 9, 2010 1:17 PM CST up reply actions
I know this appeases you stat guys
but I think it sucks because it always assumes the regression is linear. Performance does not move in a straight line.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
Im pleased from the standpoint that if PK stays healthy
and has normal abs, the team is in good shape.
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
What if he has abs like these though?!?!?
"I don't give a flying f**k who you think I look like"
non-parametric models exist too
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Dec 9, 2010 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
obviously not
hence his 2010. but it’s nice to have something to baseline as your expectations.
Fireworks: Bang?
twins trade hardy for mediocre relievers
thanks minnesota!
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
those were the mediocre relievers we were supposed to trade for!
damn those freckly bastards. damn them to heck.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
woohoo!
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Dec 9, 2010 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
and i hope kenny doesn't follow suit
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Dec 9, 2010 1:56 PM CST up reply actions
I wonder if they're trying to stock up
to swing for Grienke.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 1:57 PM CST up reply actions
and i call bullshit until proven otherwise.
They may say that, and they may be loathe to do it. But if the Twins wow them for him, they’ll flip his ass to them no question.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 10, 2010 1:19 AM CST up reply actions
usually when teams say this they mean it
There is little reason to trade him in division. There are plenty of other suitors. MLB has its obvious unbalanced schedule so it means a little more.
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
I know that.
And of course they wouldn’t want to, but I’ll never believe any team when they say, “We won’t do X.” Just look at Kenny, one year Josh Fields is going to be a valuable part of the ’organization’s future’ and then he’s getting us Mark Teahen. Gordon Beckham is an untouchable, until he’s the centerpiece of a deal for Adrian Gonzalez.
2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG
'I'd let her slob my knob but I’m a teacher' KenWo.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 10, 2010 9:40 AM CST up reply actions
Josh Fields and Zach Grienke are very different.
You don’t trade a superstar in your own division if you have other comparable options.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 10, 2010 12:07 PM CST up reply actions
Not quite what I meant, but yes, I agree.
Like 11 hundred horses when I switch that gear
Swerve on them sorta like I missed that dear
Then I press that little button on the sit back chair!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 10, 2010 12:10 PM CST up reply actions
I realize your point
Is that teams change their minds all the time, I just don’t like the example you used. Teams are a lot more likely to change their mind about a prospect than a Cy Young winner in his prime. Had Josh Fields won an MVP award, you can assume they would be more likely to stick to their guns.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 10, 2010 12:19 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know. If the Twins pledge to start a bromance with the Royals like they have with us
where they compliment us, we compliment them, they hit us in the face with baseballs and mock us while sweeping us at home in a key series, we compliment them, that could be worth Greinke and a prospect.
by TasteeFreeze on Dec 10, 2010 10:19 AM CST up reply actions
Will they also start trading for crappy KC players too?
Cause I’d like that…
Like 11 hundred horses when I switch that gear
Swerve on them sorta like I missed that dear
Then I press that little button on the sit back chair!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 10, 2010 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
I've never quite understood the logic of not trading within your division.
Isn’t the objective in every trade to benefit your own team and to get the best of your trading partner in the process?
If is is one handed shitting. by winningugly
Well, let's see, micktoclick.
Trading feels like “firing” to most folks who then want to make it their career mission to “prove those bastards wrong” for cutting them loose. And the fact that you get to see those persons more often because they are in your division makes that experience even more joyous.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
doesn't work as per a trading example,
but on the same division “prove those bastards wrong” front see:
thome, jim. aka s-jmf
the royals would have to have aspirations to compete within the next few years or else they may as well just pack it all in.
dealing greinke in-division would make that more difficult.
and, as tdogg points out, there are plenty of other suitors to get prospects from.
Brendan Harris too
And “He has just been a thorn in our behinds.”
Today's lesson in Guillenese: "Da Chicaja Juaiso."
i'm trying to understand why they would do this?
and am failing.
Hope he’s not writing the 2011 White Sox Anal too. -Sox Machine
TT speculated yesterday
trade material for Grienke. Also possible that the Twain scouts have identified guys they think could be effective. People snickered when we traded for Thorton, too.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 2:08 PM CST up reply actions
Hard to hit into a DP if you're rounding the bases
after a 500 foot home run.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 2:10 PM CST up reply actions
but what about thornton
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
x
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 2:14 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
If I see that dog one more time.......I'm gonna......
smile again…I hate noose.
by Rhubarb on Dec 9, 2010 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
You don't remember this argument earlier this year?
The Twins are a saber-metrically inclined team!
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
they lost a good amount of relievers to free agency
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
yeah i get that,
it just seems they gave up more than they’re getting back, unless like 2ndHalf opined above either of these two guys are their Thornton.
i’d assume you all have seen this but if not: http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/the-j-j-hardy-trade-minnesotas-side/
Hope he’s not writing the 2011 White Sox Anal too. -Sox Machine
Clarification: this deal is not their version of Matt Thorton.
I made the comment, stupidly in retrospect (icus), because I’ve just reached the point where I don’t criticize any move the Twins make, because they don’t ever seem to make a wrong move.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 2:26 PM CST up reply actions
Well, I agree that deal certainly benefited the Rays more
the Twins did get something in return. They didn’t get nothing from the deal.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 2:43 PM CST up reply actions
I read your name "Kierkegaard".
Because I want to.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
blowin' minds, player.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
Don't forget
If they hadn’t demoted Hardy for a month or so back in 2009, he would’ve compiled enough service time to be a free agent this year. And I doubt they would have re-signed him, especially since it looks like they’ll sign Nishioka. So they kind of got something for nothing in that regard.
I hope they put Nishioka at SS
That’d be great for us.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 2:32 PM CST up reply actions
He was/is this one
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 2:38 PM CST up reply actions
I thought it was the general who commanded the Yamato.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
Nevermind he was cut from the 2009 WBC roster
Wiki says he is injury-prone and I see why…he looks like a stick figure.
You guys will probably enjoy his wife though.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 2:42 PM CST up reply actions
In this crowd
If you aren’t a perfect photo-shopped 10, you will get ripped apart. I was stunned to show up at the meth up and not see every guy there with a super model on his arms, the way some of these discussions go.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 9, 2010 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
Why in the hell would I bring my super models to see you assholes?
"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb
by South Side Expat on Dec 9, 2010 2:50 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, these fuckers might crinkle the pages!
by RWShow on Dec 9, 2010 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Or worse.....deflate them!
biceps-deep in fungible pumpkins.
by homesickalien on Dec 9, 2010 3:30 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
sorry i didnt bring mrs.e-g this year.
the stubby thumbs thing was hilarious.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
Pervert
Started reading that “Savage Detective” – wtf, this is soft-core porn disguised by a thin veneer of highbrow babble. I’m sitting there reading in bed making a pup tent and my wife is asking what the hell I’m reading.
"We are strong enough as we are and everything fits together in such a way that the only thing we were going to add would be something of an impact guy," KW
I gotta tell ya, this Yahweh guy sure seems like a dickhead.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 9, 2010 3:14 PM CST up reply actions 6 recs
hes trying a lot harder now that he saw his embarrassing stats
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
by e-gus on Dec 9, 2010 3:23 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Are you kidding me? I'm the most rec'd minority here.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 9, 2010 3:24 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
once new SSS gets rid of the affirmative action program, let's see how that goes.
"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb
by South Side Expat on Dec 9, 2010 3:26 PM CST up reply actions
It's a real feel-good story.
biceps-deep in fungible pumpkins.
by homesickalien on Dec 9, 2010 10:29 PM CST up reply actions
Ahem,
“Started reading…”
"We are strong enough as we are and everything fits together in such a way that the only thing we were going to add would be something of an impact guy," KW
The book is roughly 900 pages so 100 pages in could mean 'started reading'
I didn’t get any wood from the book, perhaps you’re the perv
Whatchu talkin bout Willis?
That Maria is a total slut!
"We are strong enough as we are and everything fits together in such a way that the only thing we were going to add would be something of an impact guy," KW
Quite right
I actually like the book a lot, certainly different from what I expected – thought it might be dry as dust like Borges, that got dispelled very quickly.
I’m juggling this with some Mordecai Richler, going to Montreal in a few weeks. Just finished, “The Apprenticeship of Duddy Kravitz” , loved it. Also in the picaresque/Bildungsroman genre.
"We are strong enough as we are and everything fits together in such a way that the only thing we were going to add would be something of an impact guy," KW
Bolano has obviously read Borges...
but he might be a reaction against Borges’ style. As you continue through the book, which is loosely based on Bolano’s life obviously, you’ll see he and his buddies hate the established norms of Latin literature and rebel, whenever they can and however they can, against ti.
something something wu's wife something something cialis
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
by e-gus on Dec 9, 2010 3:29 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The first section of the book about Juan Luis Madero or whatever
is written just like a naive 17 year-old would have written it…on purpose. After that section the narrator takes over and Madero does not come back into the story until the last section.
I know, bummer
"We are strong enough as we are and everything fits together in such a way that the only thing we were going to add would be something of an impact guy," KW
I think your observation was dead-on.
And I am far from appreciative of “perfect 10s” – men or women.
A little ugly is good for a person.
biceps-deep in fungible pumpkins.
by homesickalien on Dec 9, 2010 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
Too much, though,
and you should stay indoors.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
That explains your Lincecum thing.
"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb
by South Side Expat on Dec 9, 2010 3:04 PM CST up reply actions
I prefer my women with rotten souls.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 9, 2010 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
this.
keep the ugly on the inside.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
Please tell me you didn't quote a Staind song...
pleasepleasepleasepleaseplease
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
seriously.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
at least i don't quote staind.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
Definitely Maybe
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
I'd much rather own up to referencing an Oasis album than anything ever crafted by Staind
But to each their own. I was just giving the OPOS a hard time.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
I was only paraphrasing
I have exceedingly neutral feelings on both.
I shant be misled a second time
I was also defending her.
But that was mainly what I was referring to. Clearly you didn’t fit in that group I was talking about, but the point stands. It’s a rough crowd in these parts.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 9, 2010 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
American media has made people this way. I'd go out on a limb and say it's not just "these parts."
biceps-deep in fungible pumpkins.
by homesickalien on Dec 9, 2010 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
I don't know..
I mean take Lillibridge’s wife for example. How many guys here would turn her down at a bar? I mean maybe I don’t participate in enough internet blogs, but come on.
by Grinder in Training on Dec 9, 2010 3:17 PM CST up reply actions
KenWo was the one who dissed her.
He pulls in better talent than the rest of us.
by 3E8 on Dec 9, 2010 3:18 PM CST up reply actions
id let her slob my knob
but i’m a teacher and not a ballplayer. as a ballplayer i would think you’d surround yourself with dimes at all times.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Dec 9, 2010 5:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
you gotta be more specific. nobody can see you pointing to your chestlumps while you wrote that.
by Trooper on Dec 9, 2010 3:17 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
You're a marvelous bastard.
biceps-deep in fungible pumpkins.
by homesickalien on Dec 9, 2010 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
BUKKAKKE!
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 9, 2010 3:01 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You are an awful, awful person.
lol. That’s just….awful…
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
perv - might have known you'd be into that
by hoodlight on Dec 9, 2010 3:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
asian business partner.
"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb
by South Side Expat on Dec 9, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
This is not surprising at all after seeing pics from the meth up
Also the fact that WU was in the second big one and they did that to ‘stranded’ and ‘unsuccessful’ kamikaze pilots.
"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."
by BobbySouthSide on Dec 9, 2010 5:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
(Sets the trap...)
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
by winningugly on Dec 9, 2010 2:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not that I know of, but the scouting report on him questions if his arm is strong enough
to be an MLB ss. He figures to be Ryan Theriot-esq.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
they consider him their alexei ramierez
good luck with that
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
the twins must be really good at this kind of thing
if they got the brewers to demote a guy
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
from baseballanalysts.com
mentioned in their hot stove edition back and forth.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
My EKG if the White Sox fall short of the playoffs in 2011
by Rhubarb on Dec 9, 2010 3:03 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
I get lotsa dimes for this green.
I set ’em up. You knock ’em down.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
Recgraphs.
It doesn’t exist. But it should.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
Yeah, complete with the Latin literature discussion room.
Pass. This blog makes you better. Iron sharpens iron.
uncertainty is a bitch. by larry on Dec 8, 2010 11:51 AM EST
Runs between O'Hare and Forest Park on the city's west side.
Stops in Logan Square, etc.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Damn, black dudes are being measured in years now?
I’m still using a ruler. Okay, a half-ruler. (sigh) Broken protractor.
by 3E8 on Dec 9, 2010 3:15 PM CST up reply actions
Alright
this is clearly a reference to an older thread/meme. Please explain.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 3:16 PM CST up reply actions
Maybe this is a good time for you to pop your search function cherry.
biceps-deep in fungible pumpkins.
by homesickalien on Dec 9, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
Psht. I'm exhausted from just typing 'fangraphs'
and ‘baseballreference’ last week.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
And I'd really rather not search
‘Jared Mitchell’s penis’, thanks.
Your 2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG!!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 9, 2010 3:20 PM CST up reply actions
Baltimore is raiding our farm system! I would think we would most, if not all, back.
Triple-A Phase
PIT: Bradley Chalk, OF, San Antonio (SD)
ARI: Jose Rivera, OF, West Tenn (SEA)
BAL: Dale Mollenhauer, 2B, Birmingham (CWS)
KC: Lewis Rollins, RHP, Montgomery (TB)
WAS: Michael Allen, RHP, New Britain (MIN)
NYM: Ronny Morla, RHP, Tennessee (CHI)
FLA: Jaime Ortiz, IF, Chattanooga (LAD)
LAA: Daniel Sattler, RHP, Midland (OAK)
OAK: Jeiler Castillo, RHP, Corpus Christi (HOU)
TOR: Ivan Contreras, 2B, Arkansas (LAA)
STL: Jean Mijares, LHP, New Britain (MIN)
SD: Jacob Blackwood, 3B, Richmond (SF)
TEX: Fausto Mier, C, Chattanooga (LAD)
ATL: Eliecer Cardenas, RHP, New Britain (MIN)
SF: Justin Dowdy, LHP, Montgomery (TB)
PHI: Christopher Frey, OF, Tulsa (COL)
PIT: Travis Scott, C, Arkansas (LAA)
BAL: Casey Lambert, LHP, Tennessee (CHC)
NYM: Richard Brooks, RHP, Birmingham (CWS)
TEX: Starling De La Rosa, LHP, Northwest Arkansas (KC)
ATL: Rowdy Hardy, LHP, Northwest Arkansas (KC)
SF: Dashennko Ricardo, C, Bowie (BAL)
PHI: Justin Friend, RHP, Midland (OAK)
SF: Matthew Sartor, RHP, Chattanooga (LAD)
Double-A Phase
BAL: Jacob Rasner, RHP, Winston-Salem (CWS)
NYM: Quintin Berry, OF, Lake Elsinore (SD)
FLA: Brent Allar, RHP, Frederick (BAL)
TOR: Roan Salas, IF, VSL Rays (TB)
"There's too many (bleeping) guys on the computer. It's simple. I say that. Pete Rose never watched a computer. Rod Carew never did. All those hitters, they go out and see the ball, hit it and move on." - Ozzie
son of a...
I would think we would get most, if not all, back
"There's too many (bleeping) guys on the computer. It's simple. I say that. Pete Rose never watched a computer. Rod Carew never did. All those hitters, they go out and see the ball, hit it and move on." - Ozzie
For a team like the Orioles
it’s probably not asking alot to bury a pitcher in the bullpen for a season. Or to send a box of steamed crabs, the wsox release their claim, and they all go home happy.
lol true
I do like Jacob Rasner, and I want him back.
"There's too many (bleeping) guys on the computer. It's simple. I say that. Pete Rose never watched a computer. Rod Carew never did. All those hitters, they go out and see the ball, hit it and move on." - Ozzie
need quality arms
I'D LIKE TO APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE FOR MY BEHAVIOR!! I DAYDREAM WITH THE BEST OF THEM.......
by pierzynskirules on Dec 9, 2010 10:34 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
we are really front paging this trite shit?
man, what a change from 4 year ago.
by madvillian on Dec 10, 2010 2:15 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
i like how you sold sss, bought soxmachine, and then hang around here telling everyone to go to soxmachine.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
speaking of which, jim, i think i've got the new tagline for your site.
’there’s always soxmachine.’
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
Ouch
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 11, 2010 12:35 AM CST up reply actions
Your fingers work, apparently.
Feel free to submit content if you want.
2011 White Sox: DONKEY KONG
'I'd let her slob my knob but I’m a teacher' KenWo.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 10, 2010 10:01 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
I honor and revere all front page content
especially as I have no ambition to write front page content, and am too fragile to be criticized for it.
I’m proud of you, like the friend of Debra Winger who made the guy kill himself because she didn’t want to marry some Okie, and he just got kicked out of the Navy, while Winger is getting carried out of the factory at the end of Officer and a Gentleman, and the friend yells out, “you go, girl” or some reasonable facsimile.
BTW, all of my front page content would read like that.
by TasteeFreeze on Dec 10, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions
im ready for more
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
by blackoutsox on Dec 10, 2010 10:28 AM CST up reply actions
lol thanks, Freeze.
Like 11 hundred horses when I switch that gear
Swerve on them sorta like I missed that dear
Then I press that little button on the sit back chair!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 10, 2010 10:32 AM CST up reply actions
i for one appreciated the article.
you brought up a few guys that i hadn’t considered yet.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Thanks, ken.
Like 11 hundred horses when I switch that gear
Swerve on them sorta like I missed that dear
Then I press that little button on the sit back chair!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 10, 2010 6:37 PM CST up reply actions
This is true.
http://www.southsidesox.com/2007/12/8/23141/4741
The pissing match between Keith and Toonder (rip) is quite hilarious.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 10, 2010 10:57 AM CST up reply actions
lol, do you think that was colins 4th or 5th junior year?
“y’all know where it’s at
i don’t need to say it. "
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
im just jealous.
if i could afford it(and didnt have a wife and kid) I’d love to be a life long college student.
cheat style.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
i'd say it's more of a worry that people think posting "this is trite shit", or recommending that, is useful commentary.
if you have a problem with something, articulate it. you know, with something more than fifteen words.
hmm. seems like that might take actual effort.
just finished exams, so it is time to turn the brain off for a bit.
i’ll get around to it in three weeks or so.
actual effort. yes. like the effort that was put into writing this, i'm sure. much harder than your recommending madvillian's comment or writing your comment.
taking potshots may be amusing. but it’s rather useless. i’d rather you just didn’t offer anything if it isn’t constructive. the content isn’t going to get any better if you don’t explain what your problem with it is.
by larry on Dec 10, 2010 3:00 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I agree with larry
this guy writes a nice piece that informed me on a few things and added value to my understanding of some available relievers I knew nothing about. Then, lo and behold, these pricks pop through here and denigrate the effort just to be cynical and elitist fucks.
It will take some time to change the culture.
These pricks that pop up learned their trade from the very same group who are now chastizing them. Go back a couple months to a few years and see how new contributers were treated by these noble folks.
If is is one handed shitting. by winningugly
I hear ya, I was chastised when I first came here
apparently to keep even a semblance of the way things were, the noble folk have to change the culture somewhat, at least they realize that. I don’t claim to know the history of this site though and I’m sure you salty dogs see hypocrisy.
the difference being that us 'pricks' were getting worked over on the RR, not the front page.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
true.
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 11, 2010 12:21 AM CST up reply actions
more eyes on the front page.
means more criticism. means you sink or swim faster.
there isn’t any “hypocrisy” here. if you say stupid shit about baseball, you’re going to get skewered. if the primary issues people have with someone is that the lede was weak or they didn’t go through all 67 of the available relief pitchers in a single article, seems like that’s an easy fix.
are FPed RR articles picked up by the webcrawls?
or is it just articles written by masthead writers?
to me the argument seems to be about the merits of putting the “audition” up as the public face of SSS.
I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.
by thatshortkid on Dec 13, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
i can distribute them if i choose.
i’m just abiding by the final directive of the cheat, that “solid” material be front-paged. as for people complaining about the quality, if those people aren’t bothering to produce anything, quality or not, i really don’t want to hear it.
Seconded.
".... and in closing, lick. my. balls." - U God
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 13, 2010 11:10 PM CST up reply actions
I'm just going to continue posting picture of CW and rally cars during game threads
Its gotten me this far.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
I rec'd it too
for its ‘the old way is better’ curmudgeon-ny flavor.
2h is a little rough around the edges with his writing style, doesn’t know all that much about baseball, and uh, where was I going with this?
The fact is he’s putting stuff on the right rail and it keeps getting front paged because something has to get front paged while we are on cruise control in limbo. if anything it should be a sign to everyone else that this is the time to write something if you have front page sss aspirations. 2ndhalf obviously does, he’s producing something, and is getting rewarded for it.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
Praising with faint damning.
Thanks, e. ;-)
Like 11 hundred horses when I switch that gear
Swerve on them sorta like I missed that dear
Then I press that little button on the sit back chair!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 10, 2010 3:27 PM CST up reply actions
one of the reasons i want you to post
is because i know that you can take the criticism, both because you’re thick-skinned enough and because you’ll actually internalize the criticism (at least the useful criticism) and improve.
awwww. larry, the father figure.
"I was the nicest Hitler ever, pulling out chairs for old women and what not." -Rhubarb
by South Side Expat on Dec 10, 2010 3:45 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
He can get in line like the rest of us...
and no cuts, Mick!
".... and in closing, lick. my. balls." - U God
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 10, 2010 9:57 PM CST up reply actions
its so weird, right?
but larry does have a good point, he can seemingly handle the criticism and actually does internalize to try and improve. I can see craig’s point about him getting ‘rushed to the bigs’, too.
Im a little torn on the issue honestly. I tend to lean to the quality over quantity side, but there are sbn quotas that have to be met. Who else is stepping up to the plate?
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
To the 'quality' end
(and I’m not saying I’ll step up to do any of these) but what sort of content would people like? 10 days ago, we had no DH, no 1B and no C. So, it seemed pretty easy to step up and try and do something on those positions. Kenny sort of took care of them, leaving only the bullpen/5th starter.
I didn’t want to do a ‘Bless You Boys’ style recant of Winter Meetings transactions passed, so I picked this. The good Dr went to the Sale at the Cell function, but there’s not a lot to write about now. Is there?
Like 11 hundred horses when I switch that gear
Swerve on them sorta like I missed that dear
Then I press that little button on the sit back chair!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 10, 2010 4:09 PM CST up reply actions
he's not referring to topics
at least not per se. he means he doesn’t think your writing is of sufficient quality.
the topic is perfectly relevant
I dont mind the rp suggestions either. I looked at Cot’s too, there’s just not any must have guys out there, especially ones they can afford. These are as good of suggestions as any.
You’re writing leaves quite a bit to be desired as far as the precedent that’s been set here is all. As rhubarb mentioned, the journalism basics need to be tightened up, as hsa mentioned, the headlines need work, etc.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
Comments are more colloquial by nature.
Posts should be tight. My question to 2HA is how many times do you edit your own piece? Alot of times people could be too excited to get their shit out there and not take the requisite time to tighten it up. Wait a few hours, go back over your writing and things will pop out at you. One of your recent posts was done and published an hour after the news hit the tweets, IIRC.
this is a good question.
I edited that last piece I FP’d at least 25 times. The first person who read it saw a muchweaker post than the last and it wasn’t even close.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
yeah no shit. my photochops and ms paint skills are AAAA too.
The bottom line is that there’s a lot of people who got A’s in lit classes that post on here and cheat’s writing set a really high standard.
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
Agree on Cheat- it is a high standard.
Having said that, I enjoy 2HA’s writing- while it is somewhat rough, I agree with larry that he is properly processing the feedback- we as readers just need to give him quality feedback as well, which you have done.
".... and in closing, lick. my. balls." - U God
by DrEmilioLizardo on Dec 10, 2010 10:02 PM CST up reply actions
it's less about the quota.
than i’ve found someone who writes for other sites and, based on his numerous comments on the site, presumably would be interested in writing for this site. no one became a quality writer by not writing. and no one became a quality writer without input. i’ve been holding an open audition. sink or swim.
The Force is strong in this one...
Like 11 hundred horses when I switch that gear
Swerve on them sorta like I missed that dear
Then I press that little button on the sit back chair!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 13, 2010 4:25 PM CST up reply actions
Praising with faint damning could be the new 'White Sox Baseball: You got your World Series now F&#% off!'
i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws
i put it on the front page because i haven't bothered to look into the free agent relief possibilities and he did. i learned something. i figure someone else would, too. at least rhubarb did.
sure it’s rough. i’m aware of that. one doesn’t get better without experience. or, perhaps more importantly, feedback.
Below are my constructive criticisms
1. Why did you choose these particular relievers? It seems you only chose the ones familiar to you, for analyzing…for example Beimel because you dig the Rays, he’s your guy…it might have taken MORE effort to evaluate relievers you knew nothing about but may have been more helpful to you and to your readers had you done the research on more unfamiliar names. Your readers don’t care if Beimel is your guy.
2. The first two paragraphs are a little rough, you need to work on your lede. A lede is supposed to give readers the main points of the story and get readers interested in reading the story. You attempted to do so and did an okay job but you could get better.
3. Have larry or egus or U-God or someone edit your stuff, sometimes your sentence structure and punctuation boggles my mind. You especially want this to be clean in your lede because it establishes your credibility as a serious writer and will help you not seem ‘trite’.
i do normally edit things i front page.
but, except for some minor things, i’ve just let these things stand on their own. sink or swim.
Fair enough.
1. I refered to Choate as ‘my guy’ not because he’s a Ray or anything so arbitrary, but because of the listed names, he would be my preference to be signed. I think he will be the least expensive and potential to be more effective than Brydak, et al. These particular relievers were chosen after going through Cots Baseball Contracts, as was the form I used from my previous posts. These names specifically were picked because a number of guys listed on the site already signed (Contreras, Putz) or are totally worthless (Bautista) and I wasn’t going to list those names.
2. Noted.
3. Yes.
Like 11 hundred horses when I switch that gear
Swerve on them sorta like I missed that dear
Then I press that little button on the sit back chair!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 10, 2010 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah I went through Cots too and decided, as Colin did, that I didn't know enough about the relief market to intelligently discuss possibilities
The article would have been more useful if you had dug deeper on the names you did not recognize but once agian I appreciate the article and implore you to soldier on through criticism. I wouldn’t have wanted to write this article because I didn’t want to take the time to do the research.
When I wrote for my college newspaper I ALWAYS took the stories no one else wanted because it made me a better writer, having to struggle with the unknown, the inane and the uninteresting.
And interestingly, the only names I 'knew' going in
were Wood, Jenks, Downs and Fuentes. I arrived at Choate after looking at the numbers and had never looked more closely at Balfour’s stats.
Like 11 hundred horses when I switch that gear
Swerve on them sorta like I missed that dear
Then I press that little button on the sit back chair!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 10, 2010 4:01 PM CST up reply actions
That's not meant as a defense of their inclusion,
just an explination of motivation.
Like 11 hundred horses when I switch that gear
Swerve on them sorta like I missed that dear
Then I press that little button on the sit back chair!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 10, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
Ok, as long as the topic is fresh....
The title is cumbersome.
biceps-deep in fungible pumpkins.
by homesickalien on Dec 10, 2010 4:00 PM CST up reply actions
yeah, I gotta work on those.
Like 11 hundred horses when I switch that gear
Swerve on them sorta like I missed that dear
Then I press that little button on the sit back chair!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 10, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
yes, once he'd written a few more pieces, he was going to get my list of issues.
but one is that it’s usually better to be direct and simple with headlines, as opposed to clever. i would have simply titled this “Possible White Sox Reliever Options” or some such thing. clever is nice. but, in the internet world, simple headlines are the ones that get picked up by google news and are clear to people viewing the article title when it is linked at one of our “partners”. but i wouldn’t expect him to know such things at this point.
I might add that clever can also be direct
I wasn’t sure if he was talking about a leaky pen or a leaky boat. Was he punning on the writing utensil and the bullpen or that our ship would sink if we didn’t shore up the bullpen or if we had a ship at all. Perosnally, I wouldn’t have been satisfied with “Possible White Sox Reliever Options” if I wrote this but would have crafed something that made more sense, was clever and still would have picked up by newsfeeds. You are an attorney, therefore more literal, but there is still room for colour.
I was just saying that an outline can be clever but still direct.
For example I interviewed Woody Harrelson once at a tavern and the headline was, “Harrelson on tap at Lunkers.”
That was the first headline that came to mind.
I horrible piece of journalism. Our chief-editor laid it on thick after that piece snuck through.
good thing you said that because
I was going to say it didnt compare at all to anything you wrote on here
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
Most of the stuff I wrote there was awful
stories on quack chiropractors who adjusted firemen’s backs at ground zero, road extensions, student government garbage…I did get to meet Ghandi’s grandson, the mayor of Houston, Harrelson and a famous biological warfare expert though. I wrote the Harrelson piece on a blunt hangover, atleast I had the balls to get a quote but forgot to get quotes from anyone else there so had to ask my roommates, which is a no-no.
I'd be cool with helping with editing
Starting a week from now.
by Daniel Berlyn on Dec 10, 2010 6:02 PM CST up reply actions
I was going to say, if the guy has trouble with editing his own content someone might want to offer a helping hand.
Everyone knows how to use e-mail, Google Docs allows for multiple users to edit the same document, this shit doesn’t have to be hard.
by Ozzie Montana on Dec 10, 2010 6:12 PM CST up reply actions
Is this partly why I was chastised so much for criticizing the need for Colin's commentary on the downside of backloading contracts?
Take your whosh like a man, dammit.
by RWShow on Oct 28, 2010 10:33 PM EDT
by Shoeless In SC on Dec 11, 2010 12:38 AM CST up reply actions
fine then. fair point.
two to three months ago the guy was getting slaughtered for his ignorance and stupidity. now he is writing front-page posts.
in all fairness to him he seems to have taken onboard much of the criticism he took, but it’ll take more than a few semi-decent posts for me to accept that he has forgone the stubborn ways in which he stuck to the things he was wrong about. it is quite the flip. i don’t really believe in epiphanies.
he is stepping carefully round here now, but i seem to recall noticing earlier in the week that he was saying things of a sillier quality over on twinkietown, so i am wary.
two soon of a jump methinks from punching bag to front page.
so your problem is not the article.
it’s the author. one should learn to separate the two. if you didn’t think the article was worthwhile, that’s fine. i’d like to know why, and i imagine the author would, too. if you just don’t like the author, perhaps just keep that to yourself.
it isn't that i dislike him
i have no strong feelings one way or the other. sometimes i’m annoyed by something he wrote, other times amused.
and yet you recommend a comment calling this "trite".
since i fail to see what is trite about it, and no one has yet explained to me how it is, one would normally reach the conclusion that you recommended it because you favor any criticism, whether it’s accurate or not.
i could argue about the definition of the word "trite"
but that would be pointless.
i felt it deserved some criticism, but you’re right. it is pointless if there is nothing constructive in it. i’ll endeavour to be fairer and less petty in the future.
i haven't seen a post on here about relief prospects that would fit the white sox.
hence, it’s not trite. the fact that you may have considered this yourself, and didn’t bother to share, or have read up on it someplace else, doesn’t make it trite.
Some of the stuff about Dunn/Konerko signing and the fact that we need relievers for our pen is kind of trite
so probably madvillain didn’t read past the first two paragraphs. That is why above I recommended writing stronger ledes. The general stuff and previous signings have been discussed ad nauseum.
I'm used to writting for a bit more of a general audience
so this is all really useful. And I only mentioned Dunn and Konerko once, was that too much in context?
Like 11 hundred horses when I switch that gear
Swerve on them sorta like I missed that dear
Then I press that little button on the sit back chair!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 10, 2010 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
Look, that is just my opinion, others may disagree
and since you haven’t received much constructive criticism, I am offering some. It is for you to decide whether or not to utilize it, I am not always right. I wouldn’t have wasted the first two sentences of a piece about relief pitching on Dunn or Konerko, just my opinion.
Ah, okay.
Makes sense.
Look, I don’t take any of the non-baseball stuff here seriously. I don’t come here for political or cultural discourse, I’m here for baseball. This is all very useful information and should help not only here but my other column too. Appreciated.
Like 11 hundred horses when I switch that gear
Swerve on them sorta like I missed that dear
Then I press that little button on the sit back chair!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 10, 2010 4:03 PM CST up reply actions
I'll continue to do so if you want
i thought I knew alot about baseball before I started frequenting this place. Most of my discourse here is probably a little off base; satire, literature, cultural quips, highly inappropriate meanderings etc etc etc…but I am here for baseball news/analysis I don’t get elsewhere(and probably never will) and to be involved in a community with a similar interest, so keep it up.
Well, you don't have to list
everything that needs work at the time, lol.
It’s as WU said: I come for the baseball. I stay for the sarcasm.
Like 11 hundred horses when I switch that gear
Swerve on them sorta like I missed that dear
Then I press that little button on the sit back chair!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 10, 2010 4:16 PM CST up reply actions
Hows this sound. I'll allow the comments to roll in and after the post has been viewed by most
I will then offer my criticisms. I will not make them instantaneous.
basically what i thought.
thanks for doing the heavy lifting rhoob, for my part i’ll try to be similarly constructive in the future.
and what he "was getting slaughtered for"
at least by me, was that he thought he should comment on every single topic, including things he knew nothing about. i think you’d be hard-pressed to argue that this article was written by someone who didn’t bother to do his research.
i'm not arguing that,
as pointed out above, it isn’t that well-written. it isn’t awful, but it isn’t up the usual standard of front-page threads round here.
maybe if he reads it over a few more times and is more careful about his phrasing he will get better.
if i am guilty of over-reacting, which, upon reflection, i probably am, i’m sorry about that. i’m a literature student so i occasionally have trouble separating the writer from the work.
They probably took the offer they were going to present to Crawford
whited out the name, money and terms and just represented it to Downs.
by TasteeFreeze on Dec 10, 2010 5:38 PM CST up reply actions
yeah just what i want
to give up draft picks and 15 million for Scott Downs
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
I didn't say i would have done it
just gave the update that he’s off the market. take a chill pill dude!
Kenwo4life=ratings
I read shit here for either the baseball info or the laughs.
neither of which requires me to even consider if something was well written or not.
by Trooper on Dec 10, 2010 11:39 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Byrdak
Oh how I remember in the Spring of 2003 Tim Byrdak being my pitching coach at South Suburban College in South Holland. His resemblence to Steve Carrell is quite remarkable.
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