Reinsdorf: Put Thomas in HOF
"I never saw Joe Jackson, he was a little before my time," Reinsdorf said by phone following Thomas' retirement from baseball. "I started following baseball in 1945 and the only right-handed hitter I've seen since then that I would put in the same class as Frank is [Cardinals' slugger] Albert Pujols. I can't imagine he doesn't get into the Hall of Fame right away."
As for Thomas' legacy as a slugger never suspected of steroid use, Reinsdorf added, "He should have won a third MVP," referring to 2000, when Thomas was edged out in the balloting by Jason Giambi, who later admitted to using performance-enhancing drugs that season.
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Jerry needs to put his focus on finding some extra cash to get this Damon deal done,
not worrying about former players.
Jones,Kotsay,Vizquel < Thome
I think he can spare a moment for the greatest player for whom he's ever signed a check on the day of his retirement.
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by billyok on Feb 13, 2010 12:07 AM CST up reply actions 5 recs
this!
It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted
by Scotty Ballgame on Feb 13, 2010 1:04 AM CST up reply actions
*baseball player
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by thatshortkid on Feb 13, 2010 5:09 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
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he better hope i don't get his aim, bro.
by Toonderstrook on Feb 13, 2010 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
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Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 13, 2010 12:13 PM CST up reply actions
paychecks, alimony checks to Thomas's wife, preventative bankruptcy checks,
failing side business checks, etc.
many checks.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Feb 13, 2010 9:04 AM CST up reply actions
hater.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 13, 2010 11:40 AM CST up reply actions
classless shitbag he may be
but he is the best basketball player of all time. As Reinsdorf owns both the Sox and the Bulls I was just saying he’s probably the greatest player he’s ever signed…it was tongue in cheek as you were certainly referring just to the baseball side of things
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
One nation's treasure is billyok's trash
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by billyok on Feb 13, 2010 6:11 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
agreed BO has officially lost his mind.
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 13, 2010 6:15 PM CST up reply actions
Frank Thomas exuded class when he cussed out little children.
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 13, 2010 6:27 PM CST up reply actions
its your boy ozzie that needs to get on board.
Reinsdorf has already said they need a lefty as did williams.
Kenwo4life=ratings
The funniest part is you think Reinsdorf needs to "find" extra cash.
Should he check under his bed?
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 13, 2010 11:45 AM CST up reply actions
Lineup
Lf pierre
Dh damon
2b beckham
1b konerko
Rf q
C aj
Cf rios
3b teahen
Ss ramirez
You could flip damon/beckham and rios/ramirez I guess….I still think a jones would get some ab’s and ozzie would also find some for kotsay. Signing damon would create that “buzz” that I think would give a nice boost to ticket sales. Besides, let’s say it’s july 10 and the twins are running away with it and we are out of the wc the sox have some pieces that could help recoup the 5-7 it would take to sign damon. Damon himself, konerko, jenks, putz, etc. Again, the “under the radar” nature of how this thing is playing out might be a good sign for those hoping it happens which should be everybody.
by stanchar on Feb 13, 2010 6:46 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Ahead of Konerko.
"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"
Hmm where should your likely best hitter this year be in the lineup?
Im guessing 3rd or 4th.
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
And L,L at the top? Nope.
Damon hits 3rd, Beckham 2nd. Oz is obsessed with LRLR
"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"
pierre
rios
becks
Q
damon
paulie
aj
crockpot
ramirez
RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010
an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry
Regardless of how much I like Beckham, why on earth would we bat him third?
I can understand if he comes out of the gate strong and hits like a beast why they would move him there, similar to the way they handled Q! in 2008. But batting him third based on a little more than half a season’s stats, factoring in the move to second, and factoring in that we are hoping he doesn’t have a sophomore slump…that’s a lot of pressure on the kid and a HUGE assumption about the kind of production he’ll contribute. Almost as huge as the assumption Ozzie is making about the rotating shit-storm at DH. And I’m assuming when you say “crockpot” you mean Teahen. And why would Teahen hit in front of Ramirez?
Damon
Beckham
Quentin
Konerko
Rios
Pierzynski
Ramirez
Teahen
Pierre
or
Damon
Rios
Quentin
Konerko
Beckham
Pierzynski
Ramirez
Teahen
Pierre
or
Pierre
Beckham
Quentin
Konerko
Damon
Rios
Pierzynski
Ramirez
Teahen
"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen
"I'd rather have Rios hit 50 home runs than steal 50 bases. I want to win." - Servant2LordBeckham
by Servant2LordBeckham on Feb 13, 2010 5:31 PM CST up reply actions
look at Ramirez's splits at 9th compared to everywhere else
the numbers shoot way up
and I like beckham at third because he can be our most consistent rbi producer, so why not put two people in front of him
however, ozzie will probably put him at fifth and Q at sixth until the second week or so before moving them up
RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010
an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry
Should we bat Teahen 5th because his splits indicate that is where he performs best?
Ramirez’s homerun and RBI totals more than double when batting 8th. Now given, a big part of that is because he’s played almost twice as many games batting 8th. Ramirez played 30 of his 40 games batting 9th in 2008…when he was filling in for Uribe at 2nd…when he got hot. What sounds more realistic: That Ramirez is roughly a .270 hitter when batting 8th or that Ramirez is roughly a .380 hitter batting 9th? All I’m saying is that I think Ramirez deserves more RBI opportunities than Teahen. If Alexei played 33 more games batting 9th there would be more conclusive evidence. And I’m almost certain that those 33 games would drop his numbers significantly.
"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen
"I'd rather have Rios hit 50 home runs than steal 50 bases. I want to win." - Servant2LordBeckham
by Servant2LordBeckham on Feb 13, 2010 6:20 PM CST up reply actions
from 6-9 in the order it really doesn't matter that much who hits where.
ozzie’s left right lineup at the bottom of the order makes as much sense as anything.
Doesn't it matter in games that are close or tied late and in extra innings?
Every time the lineup turns over don’t you want to have the right guys in place who have a better chance at driving in guys from the top and middle of the order?
"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen
"I'd rather have Rios hit 50 home runs than steal 50 bases. I want to win." - Servant2LordBeckham
by Servant2LordBeckham on Feb 13, 2010 7:17 PM CST up reply actions
I concede on Teahen Ramirez
you obviously took a longer look than I did
but then whats the difference between second and third for beckham?
RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010
an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry
That's a very fair question.
Beckham was hitting second in the lineup quite a bit in 2009. I would just prefer to keep him where he’s comfortable. Suppose the leadoff guy fails to get on…there’s a big difference between hitting with one out and hitting with two outs. Beckham has a bright future, no doubt. But I think the less pressure that’s put on him early on the better the results will be. That’s just my theory on the game. It has to be terrifying for any young player in the major leagues to come to Chicago and have the expectation of being the next big thing who will hopefully deliver a championship.
Seems like people around here forget just how good of a rookie year Alexei had in 2008, but it didn’t warrant being moved up to third in the lineup. It’s perfectly cool for us to have different philosophies on how the lineup should look. That’s what makes baseball so much fun. Speculation is a blast from where we are at. But I think we can both agree that a healthy Q! would have a major positive impact on the rest of the lineup.
"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen
"I'd rather have Rios hit 50 home runs than steal 50 bases. I want to win." - Servant2LordBeckham
by Servant2LordBeckham on Feb 14, 2010 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
first lopez, then damon....then we can sign him, but not until. (according to KW nephew's gardner)
Felipe Lopez Fires Scott Boras
By Mike Axisa [February 13 at 8:27am CST]
Disgruntled because he’s still without a job this late into the offseason, Felipe Lopez fired agent Scott Boras according to ESPN’s Jayson Stark. He is now represented by the Beverly Hills Sports Council.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
how can the tigers have offered damon 2/14?
there’s no way. he’d have jumped at that.
Cashing checks and having sex.
i believe the reports
indicate that ilitch has authorized a 2/14 offer
We just need to execute better - Lovie Del Negro
and you think he's weighing his options?
if that’s out there, he takes it. done. perhaps he thinks he can sign a 1 year deal and then get a longer term deal next offseason. if that’s the case, then he’s already signed for 1/8 or something. i think it’s pretty clear that the offers aren’t that good. i’m not saying i think the sox sign him, but i wouldn’t be surprised if he signs for 1/5-6. there doesn’t seem to be a market.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Feb 13, 2010 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
authorized and offered are two different things
but i agree, i dont think he’s signing for 2/14
We just need to execute better - Lovie Del Negro
That'll make for an interesting 163.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 13, 2010 12:16 PM CST up reply actions
It'd be the first below .500 team to make the postseason, I imagine.
Cards tried hard in 06 though.
"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"
I take it back.
They’d need to play two tiebreaker games, and the team that won both would end up 82-82.
"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"
Wait a minute
Would it not be where a team gets a bye while the two others face off and if that team with the bye wins the following game(164?) could get in with a 81-82 record?
It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted
by Scotty Ballgame on Feb 14, 2010 5:15 PM CST up reply actions
Last year, theSox gave up 4 less runs than the Red Sox.
They added Peavy and will have a much improved defense.
Red Sox are projected to give up 60 less runs than the Sox.
Fuck computers.
They did add Lackey.
But that’s not remotely enough to make up that difference.
"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"
There is a serious stat overload going on right now.
We just need to get these games started.
Jones,Kotsay,Vizquel < Thome
Adding Cameron and Beltre to your defense can have that effect.
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 13, 2010 8:25 PM CST up reply actions
Three teams over 90 wins, all AL East
No teams under 71 wins
Not buyin’ it.
I think BP is just trying to lower the standard deviation and not get it pegged the least accurate projection system again.
by Daniel Berlyn on Feb 13, 2010 8:16 PM CST up reply actions
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"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
by U-God on Feb 13, 2010 12:09 PM CST reply actions 6 recs
Right, not the GM.
The Boogeyman cometh
by omnipotent grab on Feb 13, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions
what did you think GM stood for?
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by thatshortkid on Feb 13, 2010 1:46 PM CST up reply actions
Batman is rather ill tempered these days
by 67WMAQ on Feb 13, 2010 2:08 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not a recent development
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Feb 13, 2010 2:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
awwwww..... what happened to the visiting FP?
took his ball and went home? or china?
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
didn't think it was likely, but didn't know for sure.
how lame of him.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Feb 13, 2010 5:22 PM CST up reply actions
heh
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Feb 13, 2010 7:11 PM CST up reply actions
it was incredible
I read through nearly the whole thing. The one guy just refused to listen to any reasoning.
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
yeah
he just kept repeating the same thing over and over, it was remarkable… i got almost 3/4 of the way through it
We just need to execute better - Lovie Del Negro
i didnt get that far
poor guy. dunno how he had the patience to keep it up
We just need to execute better - Lovie Del Negro
it was amazing
he somehow kept finding ways to A.) insult the reading comprehension of the OP and B.) Rephrase his main point
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
it's been there, in its copy/paste state
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by thatshortkid on Feb 13, 2010 7:02 PM CST up reply actions
it's the citing of WSI i like the most.
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by thatshortkid on Feb 13, 2010 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
I wanted so bad to comment on that, but I can not bring myself to join such a forsaken site.
Jones,Kotsay,Vizquel < Thome
I stopped reading when some one had ghe temerity
to suggest Eddie Collins was the greatest Sox ever when he wasn’t even voted our best 2nd baseman of all time on this site. Idiot Cub fans.
;)
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
the
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
I voted for him
RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010
an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry
hilarious.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 15, 2010 8:58 AM CST up reply actions
hehe
I wish I didnt miss the comments when it was posted on here
RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010
an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry
His reputation preceded him.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
Tyler Flowers made the All-Time Valentines Day Team. What an honor...
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100213&content_id=8074488&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen
"I'd rather have Rios hit 50 home runs than steal 50 bases. I want to win." - Servant2LordBeckham
by Servant2LordBeckham on Feb 14, 2010 12:42 AM CST reply actions
Inorite
"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen
"I'd rather have Rios hit 50 home runs than steal 50 bases. I want to win." - Servant2LordBeckham
by Servant2LordBeckham on Feb 14, 2010 3:40 AM CST up reply actions
They refuse to honor the German-American players
It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted
by Scotty Ballgame on Feb 14, 2010 5:18 PM CST up reply actions
Anti-Semites.
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
Omar loves the arts and probably got a season pass to the Field Museum
Hey, Hoynsie: Why did the Tribe not make an effort to sign Omar Vizquel? They had a need for a veteran utility infielder, the money was not unreal, and he would have obviously provided a marketing boost. I get that Jim Thome and Manny Ramirez aren’t coming back, but this one really is a head scratcher. — Steve Cornelius, Avon Lake
Hey, Steve: Talked with Adam Katz, Vizquel’s agent, at the winter meetings. Yes, the Indians were interested in re-signing Vizquel, but Vizquel made it clear that he wanted to go to a big-city team that had a thriving art community and lots of museums. Honest. Cleveland was on his list, but Chicago held a bigger allure. It had nothing to do with what the Indians did or didn’t do.
http://www.cleveland.com/tribe/index.ssf/2010/02/hey_hoynsie_paul_hoynes_answer_66.html
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
art and lots of museums, not "art museums"
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Feb 14, 2010 10:11 AM CST up reply actions
i wouldn't expect "hoynsie" to actually get things right.
vizquel is a contemporary artist. i doubt he’s all that interested in a stuffed elephant. and galleries strike me as the correct word choice there, not museums, but, again, why would hoynsie know. he probably thinks vizquel is gay, too.
I get the feeling "hoynsie" probably looks and acts a lot like Drew Carey
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Feb 14, 2010 10:24 AM CST up reply actions
Vizquel saw the tourism video
It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted
by Scotty Ballgame on Feb 14, 2010 5:25 PM CST up reply actions
I thought Robbie was the gay one...no wonder they were such a great DP combo
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Feb 14, 2010 10:12 AM CST up reply actions
i can stand a gay middle infielder i suppose.
but a gay dh doesn’t cut the mustard. needs improvement.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 14, 2010 10:17 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I used to think Joey Cora was gay
he came you our HS when I was a sophmore with Hawk and Black Jack. He sat there on the stage with his legs crossed and hands over his eyes because he thought it was too bright. He also bounced a little too much in his walk for a man. I think he is married with children, but that could be an Elton John front.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Feb 14, 2010 10:22 AM CST up reply actions
you think he's gay? i just thought he's a douchebag. and a pretty poor announcer for someone who's been doing it that long.
Cashing checks and having sex.
Thus, gay.
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 14, 2010 1:29 PM CST up reply actions
i find it pretty homo that the man
never wears socks. ever. he’s stated this at soxfest.
Kenwo4life=ratings
good point.
i rate not wearing socks right in between sucking another man’s cock and taking it in the ass on the homo scale.
by larry on Feb 14, 2010 2:25 PM CST up reply actions 12 recs
If I didn't love my sig so much..... mercy.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 15, 2010 10:30 AM CST up reply actions
now that right there. that's funny.
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by thatshortkid on Feb 15, 2010 10:55 AM CST up reply actions
Hawk certainly spends a lot of time on his knees
Taking in Ozzie and Kenny and name any player’s sausages.
The Cubs are not a baseball team. They are a baseball-themed marketing company that hosts frat parties for post grads and tourists.
Robbie isn't gay
He got AIDS from fishing in Cleveland see above link
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by Scotty Ballgame on Feb 14, 2010 5:26 PM CST up reply actions
OMG GUYS! THE LATEST WRIGLEY RENOVATION PHOTOS ARE UP AT BCB!!!!
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2010/2/14/1310153/watching-paint-dry-at-wrigley-field#storyjump
i’m sure you guys are waiting with bated breath for SSS’ series on the toilet renovations at the cell – don’t worry, colin has those photos on his iphone and they’ll be up next week.
i love all the pictures
of scaffolding taken at awkward ankles.
bird law in this country is not ruled by reason
by soxshenanigans on Feb 14, 2010 2:28 PM CST up reply actions
I love that people comment on pictures of scaffolding every single day.
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 14, 2010 2:53 PM CST up reply actions
Verducci weighs in:
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/tom_verducci/02/12/verducci.thomas/index.html
He’s been a Frank advocate for awhile.
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
Frank Thomas
Never saw anyone hit the ball so hard, so consistently. He’d wait back till absolutely the last moment and then shift his weight to the front foot and just mash the ball with absolute ferocity. His home runs weren’t his most impressive hits, it was those knee-high outside fastballs that he would hammer on a line into right center that I considered his artistry. He’d take the pitcher’s best pitch and just absolutely destroy it. Tried to find an image of him on his front foot and laying into it into right center, this is the closest I could find:
When he was younger he’d crowd the plate and when they came inside he’d back off with histrionics and get the walk. For whatever reason, the umps started calling the inside strike on him once he turned 29 or so. He wasn’t nearly as fearsome once he had to protect the inside of the plate, the inside strike was his kryptonite. But when he was young and able to fearlessly lay into that low outside fastball he was fucking magnificent. Frank Fucking Thomas, it was a pleasure – thank you.
No animals were harmed during the making of this comment.
by ChicagoPete on Feb 14, 2010 8:25 PM CST reply actions 4 recs
that's spot on
i think the umps finally got fed up with his constant griping. note how well he is balanced in the pic above. late in his career he tried to upper cut everything, i guess he was trying to ensure the 500 homers and a HOF ticket.
It seems like they started disrespecting him for whatever reason
Jordan always got the calls, even when he lost a step. But with Frank, it just seemed like the bastards just decided once offseason that they were going to start calling that on him and that’s it. When they started calling that inside strike, for a couple years he always had that bewildered, “Oh God, why hast Thou forsaken me?” look on his face.
On the outside pitch he was so strong, he could check his swing no matter how much he’d committed to the pitch. He never really adjusted to that inside fastball. Once they started calling that a strike on him he looked mortal.
No animals were harmed during the making of this comment.
I'd guess the uppercut came with his ailing feet
If he didn’t hit homers, he wasn’t of much value. The guy couldn’t run.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
reminds me of a post game interview in 05
the reporter asked him how he managed 10 HR and only 5 singles (whatever it was at the time)… said something about his foot and (half joking) that nobody wants to see him on the bases anyways.
I'm pretty sure they could dig up a couple of mil. for Damon if they really wanted to.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Well if they don't, Delgado's phone will be ringing off the hook by late April.
"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen
"I'd rather have Rios hit 50 home runs than steal 50 bases. I want to win." - Servant2LordBeckham
by Servant2LordBeckham on Feb 14, 2010 10:19 PM CST up reply actions
like it says in the article
they recalculate the bottom line for every potential move. and you don’t buy up a bench like that and not have money left over unless kenny really missed the market.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
He might have misjudged the market.
Other than Andruw Jones (because we got Jones on a bargain), wouldn’t you say that it’s a possibility we overpaid for Vizquel and Kotsay? And KW must be seeing something that I don’t judging by the way we’re paying Teahen.
"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen
"I'd rather have Rios hit 50 home runs than steal 50 bases. I want to win." - Servant2LordBeckham
by Servant2LordBeckham on Feb 14, 2010 10:42 PM CST up reply actions
minimum salary is .5M and wins are going at 3.5M per
on a per player basis, it’s hard to argue any one of those guys is overpaid by an amount that matters. none of them are being paid for even a half win above replacement. it does seem like he wasn’t trying hard to find value though. even if they don’t buy nix as a starter, he is certainly capable of filling in where needed at the league minimum. what does Vizquel add exactly? and why Kotsay over any of the random lefty 4th OFs? if you’re trying to avoid a salary ceiling, this isn’t the way to do it. and you definitely don’t get to say “oh, Johnny Damon wanted 7 but we could only give him 5 per.”
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
Omar brings a veteran presence at shortstop-
he has won gold gloves before and speaks spanish to help tutor ramirez….. oh wait i thought that is what Ozzie is for? I didn’t get that signing when they made it. Ozzie fell in love with kotsay the 2 months he was on the sox last year…. which is fine i suppose… but it is no reason to not sign Thome, Damon, Dye etc
Kenwo4life=ratings
I don't mind the Vizquel signing.
Anything that keeps Lillibridge from being on the 25-man roster works for me. Vizquel still plays excellent defense, so when Alexei needs days off it won’t hurt our pitching staff when the bench player fills in. I loved our bench for what I originally thought it was…and then our bench became a DH. And that’s what I have a problem with.
"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen
"I'd rather have Rios hit 50 home runs than steal 50 bases. I want to win." - Servant2LordBeckham
by Servant2LordBeckham on Feb 15, 2010 3:37 AM CST up reply actions 2 recs
"…and then our bench became a DH"
would be an outstanding sig. Well done.
by The Actual El Guapo on Feb 15, 2010 2:37 PM CST up reply actions
Sounds like a real estate firm.
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
I think you can look down at Texas's Elvis and see what Vizquel adds
I really don’t have a problem with any of the bench signings. As Servant said below I don’t want them to be the DH but that’s an entirely different matter. Yes it was only 200 something at bats but Kotsay seemed to fit in on the ball club. That’s something the White Sox value. You can’t quantify it but I think far too often saberheads dismiss it. Somehow Jones and Kotsay have become the whipping boys for all this garbage. If the Sox really want Damon they’ll get him.
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
i see this as a bit of a test
especially since Damon represents all those things that Thome supposedly wasnt. good baserunner, can still play the field, etc.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
"Can still play the field"
Maybe re: the ladies. Not in the OF.
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by winningugly on Feb 15, 2010 11:58 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
he didn't say play it well
physically, he can still play in the OF, whereas Thomer can’t physically play 1B anymore
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by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
and he can physically play it well enough (or not badly enough) that the other parts of his game make him a useful player.
unlike, say, dye.
You, too?
Would you rather have Johnny Angel or Branyon/Delgado, et. al. as your DH for the $?
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
I would have rather had Thome for $1.5 million.
But since that option is off the board, and since I would prefer not to wait until late April or May for Ozzie to realize that his DH strategy sucks worse than calling Mike MacDougal into a close game, Damon seems like the best fit for $5 to $7 million.
"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen
"I'd rather have Rios hit 50 home runs than steal 50 bases. I want to win." - Servant2LordBeckham
by Servant2LordBeckham on Feb 15, 2010 3:05 PM CST up reply actions
They are where they want to be with this.......
“under the radar.” Ozzie isn’t talking, KW is saying next to nothing, JR said “it’s remote,” and they have even paid off Cowley to pretty much keep his mouth shut.
there hasn't been much of anything
from the beat writers since Thursday according to mlbtr, so i would say it looks better now…but you just jinxed the shit out of it.
either way, i’m glad Cheat went with the headline he did for the fanshot, regardless of what if any impact SSS has on the fans/front office.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
I also
did not see Shoeless Joe play.
South Side Hitman... employed and on assignment.
by The Hooligan on Feb 15, 2010 9:56 PM CST reply actions
In the article
Jerry mentioned finding a way to get Frank in the organization. Hello new hitting coach and goodbye Walker.
The Cubs are not a baseball team. They are a baseball-themed marketing company that hosts frat parties for post grads and tourists.
that will never happen.
why on earth would frank do that. At most he’ll be a spring training guest instructor/ team ambassador.
Kenwo4life=ratings
He wants to be around the game, perhaps.
I could see it for a season or two if they were unhappy (as we are) with Walk. Which they are not.
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
Frank was too good to be a batting coach.
when he was at his best he very rarely slumped. when he was older very few players possess the same power that he had. i think he’d get fed up pretty easily. plus batting coaches make what 800K? he doesn’t need to work that hard for that little.
Kenwo4life=ratings
well whatever.
i didn’t bother to look it up. the point is it is less than a mil. Thomas isn’t going to do that much work for that little pay.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Why not?
And how much work is it? He gets to stay engaged in the game as an active participant. I’d do that.
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
i wouldn't want to travel that much, at least not anymore.
you know, that whole actually spend time with your kids in a period outside october through january.
Quit pretending you have a heart.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 18, 2010 11:25 AM CST up reply actions
I'm sure frank wants to take a beating for not turning around alex rios downward slide
or paul konerkos slump. or alexei ramirez inability to hit in april. highly doubtful.
Kenwo4life=ratings
I dis. Agree.
Much. The family is used to the grind. And Frank is not used to being without baseball. You watch.
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
so he'll be hitting coach at UNLV where his son is going to play next year.
the list of superstar players, particularly from the more moneyed generations, who become coaches isn’t exactly lengthy. and with good reason. stick with the broadcasting and the spring training instructor gigs.
I equate Frank to Donnie Ballgame.
I think if he can be “likeable” he’ll be part of a team. Not a broadcasting team, either. He’s a ballplayer.
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
donnie ballgame?
maybe like donnie baseball he’ll take eight years off and spend time with his family.
Teddy Ballgame, Donnie Baseball.
The concept is the same. Guys don’t leave their job to spend time with their families in their early 40’s. But maybe Frank will do just that.
I’m just sayin’.
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
To be with family?
Or because their physical skills are not keeping pace with their desire to continue playing? How old was Walk when he became hitting coach? Baines has 4 kids and by all accounts is a happily married guy. Coop is probably the oldest coach on the team. Most guys are fairly young when they start coaching.
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
i find it odd that you don't see why someone wouldn't want to spend february through september away from their family not playing baseball and not making much money.
i sure wouldn’t do it. plenty of other pursuits and plenty that are baseball related.
I see why.
I’m saying I also see why not – for the love of the game. And many guys have a very, very hard time letting go of their vocation, especially if it defined them. Ask your folks/relatives who are retired, especially the men. Add “fame/celebrity” and treble those feelings.
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
would you and larry just fuck or fight, fer chrissakes?
you can’t open a thread on this site without the 2 of you going back and forth on some hypothetical.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Feb 18, 2010 10:47 AM CST up reply actions
Haven't had a good back-and-forth
for awhile, MM. You want in?
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by winningugly on Feb 18, 2010 10:56 AM CST up reply actions
He should be a security guard.
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
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by Ozzie Montana on Feb 17, 2010 7:44 AM CST up reply actions
Can't you let me dream?
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