Strange, Way-Back Machine
by U-God on Feb 2, 2010 12:24 PM CST
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Since its another slow day (only 30 more til the first ST game), I wanted to bring up something I noticed a little while back. When SBN switched to the newest format, we got a neat little Roster toolbar that has players on the 40-man listed and has short bios of them. These have scouting reports on the right-side. Most of them are fairly accurate, but then some feel as though the scouting report was written by someone who only had access to MVP Baseball 2005.
When was the last time Mark Kotsay was honestly "a slightly above-average center-fielder"? I believe it was around the same time Andruw Jones was "a great defensive center-fielder" and Mark Teahen was listed as "an above-average thirdbaseman". The strangeness is not just limited to players on the White Sox roster, as these examples show. I do love the resource, it just seems kind of odd that some of the more high-profile drop-off players are still viewed as they used to be or still held in high-regard at positions they no longer play. Oh well.
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which one is liz?
It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted
by Scotty Ballgame on Feb 2, 2010 2:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Astride Chiburb.
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
No wonder I can't hear the stereo.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Feb 2, 2010 5:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I thought Liz has a nice ass?
Aka a badunkadunk
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2010 4:11 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Compared to those futuristic broads/broods.
Sorry kenWo if one of those grenades is your sister.
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2010 4:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
About that 10 year Mauer extension?
BNightengale
#mlb#twins Mauer says he laughed at report of his signing and got 50 texts asking if it were true. Mauer assured them it was false
There is no way the Twins let Mauer get away
The citizens of Hennepin County are footing the bill for Target Field.
The Twins ownership will be crucified if they let their biggest star (and hometown product) get away because of money..
he won't be catching for another 10-years
probably move to first or DH, depending on Morneau. I’d pay for that bat for 10-years.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Feb 3, 2010 7:30 AM CST up reply actions
pablo ozuna batting 9th for the DR.
on mlbn now. puerto rico looks like poop so far in the first.
you are certainly one of the more ridiculous people on this board. ~ larry
i prefer to view him
as a second lead off hitter.
you are certainly one of the more ridiculous people on this board. ~ larry
Is the pitcher hitting 8th?
It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted
by Scotty Ballgame on Feb 2, 2010 2:37 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
.
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 2, 2010 2:45 PM CST reply actions
Completely off-topic
but this seems like a decent place to ask. Does anyone have a high-quality source for fantasy baseball? It seems like a bunch of garbage out there. Or should I just use WAR/CHONE rankings. This is a auction based draft I’m involved with.
Take a look at this:
http://baseballanalysts.com/archives/touching_bases/
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
I haven't used it, but the guy who usually wins my toughest league...
uses baseballhq.com
thanks to both
Bloomberg sounds like it will be interesting. I’ll give both a look.
I’m surprised your friend gave out his source within the league. I wouldn’t give up my football site to anyone I play against.
yeah, he told me about it back when I was less of a threat
I won the league this past year though
I use Ron Shandler which is baseball hq and daily stuff and draft tool from roto wire.
I win frequently
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
speaking of which...
i want another shot at the SSS championship. egus you ran that last time no? hook it up.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Does anyone else think Alexei
looks like a ritarded Dave Chappelle
in this pic???
Hell Yesss
by Grinder Rule #42 on Feb 2, 2010 3:59 PM CST reply actions
This reminds me of that skit
where he walks through the club, then they show it in slow motion with much different results. I miss that show.
than last year,
here is too hoping Alexei has been in the weight room this winter.
Jones,Kotsay,Vizquel < Thome
Ironical
And no, not even a little bit.
by Daniel Berlyn on Feb 2, 2010 6:30 PM CST up reply actions
No grinder
Black people don’t all look alike, unless you see the world through Nazi glasses.
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2010 4:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
larry said "lead-off position"! (and then laughed for a second)
bwaha!
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
Hey someone called you a heffer up there ^^^^^^
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2010 4:19 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
link plz?
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 3, 2010 5:16 PM CST up reply actions
You gotta stop encouraging him!
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
Mark Kotsay was once an "above average cf?"
BS
RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010
an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry
Just had to gloat- I am going to the Comcast Sports Awards again...
Get to meet Frank Thomas, AJ, and Jonathan Toews!!!
Eat a candy bar outta my ass, beeeotches!
Drunk Tank Mace
by DrEmilioLizardo on Feb 2, 2010 11:15 PM CST reply actions
Isn't Toews taking on the Blues tonight?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Feb 3, 2010 7:32 AM CST up reply actions
MVP Baseball 2005
Was probably the best PS2 baseball game ever. And if you put Kotsay, A Jones, and Pierre on the Sox you get a pretty sweet line-up. Too bad it isn’t 2005 all over again
High school Gordon Beckham would have been pretty good in that game too.
At least better than D’Angelo Jimenez.
Chicago White Sox Examiner — IT'S A JEEP THING YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND
by UribeAuction on Feb 3, 2010 10:25 AM CST up reply actions
Melvin Mora signs with the Rockies for 1.3mil. for one year.
I pretty sure I would have rather had him than Teahen, both defensively and offensively. Cheap too.
Jones,Kotsay,Vizquel < Thome
teahen won the hutch award.
has plus camaraderie.
you are certainly one of the more ridiculous people on this board. ~ larry
Somebody tell a joke.
Christ, it’s boring in the sports world. I just spoke with a NY Post sportswriter who said he’s going to cover a Polish heavyweight’s press conference this afternoon somewhere in Jersey. Nothing going on nowhere.
We just might have to do a Zapruder-like analysis of larry’s Podcast the other night.
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
why are the streets of Paris lined with trees?
So the Germans can march in the shade!
Drunk Tank Mace
by DrEmilioLizardo on Feb 3, 2010 11:53 AM CST up reply actions
Hahahahahahahahaha
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2010 3:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I love you guys.
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
College football's big day..
I’d think that would be more interesting then some Polish guy for the average sports fan. I find it as interesting as the NFL draft (not at all), but it’s still a big day in sports.
by Grinder in Training on Feb 3, 2010 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
there are two muffins in a toaster oven
one turns to the other and goes “man, it’s getting hot in here.” the second one replies “HOLY SHIT! A talking muffin!”
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
by U-God on Feb 3, 2010 12:05 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I can direct you to Greg Oden's private parts if you are interested.
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 3, 2010 12:14 PM CST up reply actions
boring in the sports world?!?!
what, leeds v tottenham in the FA cup (at 1:45 central time) means nothing to you? it’s massive!
you are certainly one of the more ridiculous people on this board. ~ larry
After many years of illness, Mrs. Goldberg's husband died
She telephoned the newspaper to place the obituary notice. She was told the rate was $25 a word. “Then just write: Goldberg is dead,” she said. The man from the newspaper said he was sorry but their obits had a six word minimum. Mrs. Goldberg thought about it and said, “Goldberg is dead. Cadillac for sale.”
_
he better hope i don't get his aim, bro.
by Toonderstrook on Feb 3, 2010 12:21 PM CST up reply actions
potential HOF athlete or guy who works at the bike shop? You decide...
His name is Rios and he dances on the sand
What do a mechanic and a walrus have in common?
They both like a tight seal!
by paul_ on Feb 3, 2010 12:48 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Stop me if you've heard this one;
So a Priest and a Rabbi whom both tend to their flock in the same neighborhood have a tradition of meeting up for lunch on Fridays. Afterwards, they were walking back and crossed through the park that was full of kids enjoying the beautiful spring day on the playground. The Priest stops and turns to the Rabbi and says “Hey, why dont we go over there and fuck one of those kids?” and the Rabbi turns in astonishment at the Priests request, and says “Out of what?”
Hell Yesss
by Grinder Rule #42 on Feb 3, 2010 1:00 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
This is exceptional on many levels.
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
So a pediphile is leading a youth into the woods on a dark and stormy night...
The Youth says “Geez, Mister- it sure is scary and spooky out here”
The Pediphile says- tell me about it- and I have to walk out of here alone!
Drunk Tank Mace
by DrEmilioLizardo on Feb 3, 2010 2:24 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
if this is too offensive i apologize... what do you call a flying turtle
a shellicopter
Praise Him!!
How do you catch an unusal rabbit?
unique upon it
How do you catch a domesticated unusual rabbit?
Tame way, unique upon it
RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010
an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry
Late to this party, but:
Two hunters are out in the woods when one of them collapses. He doesn’t seem to be breathing and his eyes are glazed. The other hunter whips out his phone and calls 911.
He gasps, “My friend is dead! What can I do?”.
The operator says “Calm down. I can help. First, let’s make sure he’s dead.”
There is a silence, then a shot is heard. Back on the phone, the hunter says “OK, now what?”
by The Actual El Guapo on Feb 3, 2010 8:55 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
oh hell yes.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 4, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
MLB not very good at looking after players fitness shocker
compared to the advances techniques used in my fair land.
As for baseball, no, they’re way, way behind soccer. No team has anything approaching what EVERY SINGLE EPL team has for physical research and I can’t imagine a team that would go full-on Milan Lab. For an industry that lost $250 million to just pitching injuries last year, you’d think one team would spend a couple million on research and prevention.
somehow i think that EVERY SINGLE EPL team
is some classic carroll bluster. i don’t doubt the general point, though, that MLB teams are behind what many/most EPL clubs do.
Are you saying MLB players aren't in shape?
"One more game and then we can blow this son of a b@#$* up!" - Hawk Harrelson on his thoughts regarding the Metrodome
this isn't about conditioning per se.
it’s about injury prevention. perhaps conditioning is a component of that but it is rather odd that, in the 21st century, no one can tell you with any degree of authority specific factors that cause arm injuries in pitchers.
THE HUMAN ARM ISN'T BUILT TO THROW A 5 OUNCE BALL 100 MILES PER HOUR.
(all caps add a degree of authority)
by Mitch. on Feb 3, 2010 1:27 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I can tell you what causes arm problems.
Kids don’t throw enough these days. Most coaches don’t put little leaguers on throwing plans. I am convinced I got bursitis in my shoulder from playing long toss with water logged balls. Granted I wasn’t on a throwing program.
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2010 3:30 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Shit I posted before I was ready.
Also a huge factor in pitcher injuries is 12 year olds throwing curveballs with no professional instruction.
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2010 3:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
.
The Pediphile says- tell me about it- and I have to walk out of here alone!
Hell Yesss
by Grinder Rule #42 on Feb 3, 2010 3:36 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I LOLed
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2010 4:23 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
It doesn't take much to ruin a prospect's arm, look at kenWo.
All joking aside, I think it would be in the club’s best interest to hold more affordable training camps for youngsters, and have professionals teach instead of amatuer fathers/mothers. At the very least, supply these ranks with the knowledge we have and wait for improvement. If that doesn’t work, then keep trying. If the coaching improved the overall game would improve.
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2010 4:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i was past prospect status when i hurt my arm
i never had a sore shoulder throughout little league because I’m not a pussy like you.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 3, 2010 4:44 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
KenWo, I am lance broadway and you are dude on the dance floor.
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2010 4:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yes I see what you mean.
I look at arms like everything else. If you are healthy and fit you are less likely to get injured. If you are MB and drink beer all the time and not put the work in, your arm will ache the 2nd half. It’s probably pretty tough to scout that. I am sure that somewhere down the line this will become an issue like concussions in football and will be addressed in some fashion.
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2010 4:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
i don't think its going to get quite the attention concussions are getting
as arm troubles usually don’t result in an abundance of premature deaths and brain damage
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
the potential for death due to infection after tommy john surgery must be some around .001%.
even one life lost is too many, u-god.
lar cares.
...and then some depressed fucked-cake eating.
by homesickalien on Feb 3, 2010 5:18 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Yes I see what you mean.
I look at arms like everything else. If you are healthy and fit you are less likely to get injured. If you are MB and drink beer all the time and not put the work in, your arm will ache the 2nd half. It’s probably pretty tough to scout that. I am sure that somewhere down the line this will become an issue like concussions in football and will be addressed in some fashion.
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2010 4:44 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
haha - I though that too
I very much doubt that Burnley have a particularly advanced set-up – Leeds’ is probably more advanced and we are two leagues lower.
Thing is, and I’ve read this is that the teams have to have a reasonably advanced medical set-up else the players agents just will not deal with them. They have no interest in sending players to a team where there is a higher likelihood of injury due to poor conditioning regimes and or bad rehab once an injury occurs.
Wouldn't it make sense that soccer players in general are better conditioned?
They run around like maniacs for 90 minutes, rather than plant their ass on a bench for 3 hours eating sunflower seeds.
"One more game and then we can blow this son of a b@#$* up!" - Hawk Harrelson on his thoughts regarding the Metrodome
I would say it would make sense for any professional sportsman to be in shape
it’s about preventing and re habbing injuries, and I would think that being in good condition helps in this respect.
Of course soccer players are going to have a different level of cardio fitness, it’s how you monitor and individually tailor fitness programmes for different players depending on body type etc. that is the point being made
i think the advances to be made are not with conditioning per se but with pitching mechanics.
if you can figure out what causes pitching injuries, well, the first teams to figure it out will have a huge advantage over the teams that don’t and, when that dissipates, you’ll simply have cost savings throughout the league from guys not being injured. obviously the quality of the game should increase, as well.
Clone Coop
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2010 3:26 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
"It's boring in the sports world"
Why do I get the feeling we’ll be saying the same thing around mid-July?
"One more game and then we can blow this son of a b@#$* up!" - Hawk Harrelson on his thoughts regarding the Metrodome
anybody have an mp3 of this?
We are the White Sox Shufflin’ Crew
Shufflin’ on down, doin’ it for you.
We’re so bad we know we’re good.
Blowin’ your mind like we knew we would.
You know we’re just struttin’ for fun
Struttin’ our stuff for everyone.
We’re not here to start no trouble.
We’re just here to do the World Series Shuffle
Hell Yesss
by Grinder Rule #42 on Feb 3, 2010 12:45 PM CST reply actions
Sorry, you're stuck here 'till your contract is up.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
Geez
That slave master could have at least put the baby down before he started his whipping. He/she might end up with a case of shaken baby syndrome.
larry's hard drive must be a treasure trove
of images depicting racism, dead things and mentally challenged people.
"One more game and then we can blow this son of a b@#$* up!" - Hawk Harrelson on his thoughts regarding the Metrodome
by tailgater on Feb 3, 2010 2:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I imagine there's one giant database of offensive images that all lawyers borrow from.
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 3, 2010 2:38 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Right...your images are kept on a flash drive
Easier to hide from the authorities.
"One more game and then we can blow this son of a b@#$* up!" - Hawk Harrelson on his thoughts regarding the Metrodome
c'mon gater, it won't hurt a bit.
he better hope i don't get his aim, bro.
by Toonderstrook on Feb 3, 2010 2:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
My Commodore 64 and ZIP drive serve me well, thanks.
"One more game and then we can blow this son of a b@#$* up!" - Hawk Harrelson on his thoughts regarding the Metrodome
larry = attorney in touch with the times
WU = attorney frozen in time
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Feb 3, 2010 3:13 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Hey, DB, he's referring to gater.
I threw out my Zip drive a couple of months ago.
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
I know
but I thought the physical resemblance was too hard to pass up. ;)
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Feb 3, 2010 3:22 PM CST up reply actions
Feds storm your crib?
"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 3, 2010 3:36 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
something freaked him out
probably having to do with Pete Townshend coming to FLA the SB.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Feb 3, 2010 3:48 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Was killing time reading Royals Review and had to share this:
2B – Chris Getz: You can find people who like his game. He’s hitting a nice age for 2010, 26, and that’s mainly why he’s here. He only hit .261/.324/.347 in pretty regular duty last year, but he’s a second baseman, which helps. And Getz hit well at AAA in 2008.
CF – Brian Anderson: And now we’re into the questionable zone. Anderson is heading into his age-28 season and approximately his 4th chance to win a Major League job. It wouldn’t have been crazy to envision a career year at the plate and good defense for Anderson in 2010. Well, that was then. After the Royals brought in Scot Podsednik and Rick Ankiel, it’s hard to imagine Anderson getting much playing time at the Major League level. Just a weird acquisition all around, as he went from being an underwhelming but sorta-interesting-option-if-you-look-hard-enough to just being superfluous and puzzling in about a month. Is a former White Sox however.
3B – Josh Fields: Classify this as the most theoretical of upsides. The Royals won’t be the last organization to give Fields a shot. He was famous entering baseball because of his QB days at Boone Pickens State, and he hit 23 homers for the White Sox in his first full season. He’ll be 27 next year, and if you look past the fact that he was absolutely terrible in 2009. I have no idea what the Royals are really thinking with Fields, is he just a body or do they really want to find a place for his bat? But hey: I’ve only written about this team every day for five years and read everything that gets written about them. All in all, Fields is more likely to have a good 2010 than is Yuni Betancourt, so he makes the list.
BWAHAHAHA!
http://www.royalsreview.com/2010/1/31/1285896/royal-position-players-with-upside
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
Leave it to the Royals
To make me feel better about our offseason. It sure would be miserable rooting for the Royals.
by Grinder in Training on Feb 3, 2010 4:14 PM CST up reply actions
mark teahen better play 150 games next season
and the season after and the season after
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
ROFL!!
I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.
i was trying to convey
that Teahen’s only value above Getz is in his health.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
not that that's really defensible either, really
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
He cooks a mean steak asswipe.
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Feb 3, 2010 9:26 PM CST up reply actions
just cuz imaginary getz gave you an interview...supposedly...
don’t hate on teahen :)
Kenwo4life=ratings
cool linx
this one is old from july aught nine but nonetheless is an interesting q&a with buster olney from freakonomics, then i found this one and havent really checked it out in depth but seems pretty cool too
Hell Yesss
by Grinder Rule #42 on Feb 3, 2010 5:46 PM CST reply actions
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