White Sox Camp is Boring (for now)
by The Cheat on Feb 28, 2010 10:23 PM CST
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PrintSo spring training opened in earnest. Players got their pictures taken, some while holding musical instruments. But even though games start on Thursday (with a "practice game" Tuesday -- because you need to practice for the practice/exhibition games) I don't expect much action from the Sox this spring.
Ozzie has already given a more subdued We're Gonna Do Things My Way speech to kick off camp, and joined Twitter -- I can't be the only one who thinks he reads like a Spanish version of the Dugout's JI JIM THOME. But while most teams are heading into camp expecting to shake a number of things out (rotations, position battles, etc.) the Sox have a blueprint, arguably a faulty blueprint, but a blueprint nonetheless, of 23 players all-but-guaranteed to make the roster with only a question about the backend of the bullpen and maybe the last bench bat. The drama of spring training has been removed.
So, we're on to looking at next year/manufacturing our own drama.
- Jake Peavy confirmed Williams contacted him about Adrian Gonzalez, though the notion that Williams would be willing to include Gordon Beckham in such a deal seems suspect.
- Paul Konerko and AJ Pierzynski are already beginning to ponder their futures, and beat reporters are wondering where they'll be able to turn for a quote in '11. All-Beckham, all the time!
- And spring training wouldn't be complete without an issue with Bobby Jenks. The big boy has reportedly shown up to camp 20 pounds lighter, but he just couldn't find anything other than a pitchback to throw to in that cold Chicago winter. So his arm strength, and presumably his velocity, is "behind." Which leaves us to wonder, which shows up first to a White Sox dugout, a legitimate DH or Bobby Jenks 95+ MPH heat?
- Games start on Thursday, as will gamethreads here (Billy). They'll be posted only for the 18 games with some form of visual coverage (MLB.com, CSN, WGN, MLBN), usually a half-hour before game time. We'll kick off some community projections this week as well...
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Who is this?
Does he write for this site or something?
You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan
whooshed.
ima need some baljeet explanations.
If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA
larry's somewhat long running joke
is that we commonly outsource Cheat’s posts to India
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
He bought one of those slumdog kids.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Mar 1, 2010 4:05 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
nothing cheaper or more rewarding than buying a 7 year old
with college level programming skills
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
We outsource many posts to Bangalore.
shaftr, all of colin’s inane rants (about music, mostly), etc. TAEG’s recaps, unfortunately, must’ve been lost in the ether, and I might review that outsourcing if I were larry.
I just don’t feel like killing anyone else for as long as I can help it.
the practice game is tuesday.
you’re the managing editor now, baljeet. you have to keep up with such things.
Podsednik wanted to return to the White Sox with a two-year deal, which he didn’t get.
Any thoughts on your two tours of duty on the South Side?
“No,” Podsednik said.
hope none of them let the door hit them on their way out....
thanks for game 2 pods… the rest- thanks for nothing.
Kenwo4life=ratings
I've never understood the excessive hatred for Pods around here.
Yes, Podsednik ran into a lot of dumb outs and he was involved in a lot of frustrating White Sox moments. Watching him get picked off at third with less than 2 outs in 2009 really pissed me off. But a statement like “Thanks for nothing” is a little harsh. You can compliment the quality of the 2005 pitching staff until you are blue in the face, but it doesn’t change the fact that Podsednik was still an important part of that team.
You mentioned the World Series Game 2 walkoff homer. That was a HUGE win. Yes, it’s just one accomplishment, but it put the Sox in driver’s seat for the rest of the series and helped them towards the sweep. And considering the team hadn’t won a championship in 88 years I’d say that’s a big fucking deal. In fact that walkoff has a dramatic impact on how we look at Konerko’s grand slam in that same game. If we end up losing that game the grand slam isn’t as glorious. Sorry, but it’s true.
And despite the stupid outs Podsednik made in 2009, he was was one the highlights of the season like it or not. And he was coming back with everyone in the media joking about him being washed up and that he was a backup plan in case things got really bad. Well anyone would be lying if they said that Pods didn’t exceed all expectations last year.
I’m not a huge Podsednik fan, and quite frankly I’m glad that the Sox didn’t offer him a deal this coming year. I don’t trust his ability to stay healthy again, and I’d prefer not to see more stupid outs. I’d rather take our chances with Pierre. But that being said, I’m really grateful for what Pods did for the team while he was here. He WANTED to play here. Regardless of whether or not you wanted him to play for the team, the fact is that he wanted to come back. That’s a compliment. So at least be appreciative of that.
"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen
"I'd rather have Rios hit 50 home runs than steal 50 bases. I want to win." - Servant2LordBeckham
by Servant2LordBeckham on Mar 1, 2010 12:40 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
I was coming back to this thread to say something like this.
I wish I had the statistical kung-fu that some folks here have… I might be able to back up what I’m about to say with actual facts… But no doubt in my mind, the rollercoaster that Pods gave us last year was one of the things that made it fun. I think his surprising offensive contribution outweighed his idiocy at baserunning, all 2005 WS hero worship aside.
Two years though? Come on Pods… you KNOW that wasn’t going to happen….Not with us, not unless you wanted to take a heavily incentivized contract with an emphasis on 2010 and almost squat for guaranteed for 2011.
by South Side Expat on Mar 1, 2010 2:03 AM CST up reply actions
The problem with this is...
I think you’d have a really hard time using any “statistical Kung-Fu” to back up any argument pertaining to Podsednik’s relevance.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
there are definitely intangibles that can not be tracked.
not saying he possessed any of those but…they exist.
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 2:14 PM CST up reply actions
I really wish they could come up with some kind of stat that measures clutch hitting.
I’m not going to claim to be some kind of stats expert, and I wouldn’t know how to hammer out the details… but something other than RISP. Maybe you take take all the opportunities a player has to get hits that either tie the game or put the team out in front after trailing in a ballgame and calculate how many times that player gets hits in those situations. I don’t know… just tossing the idea out there.
"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen
"I'd rather have Rios hit 50 home runs than steal 50 bases. I want to win." - Servant2LordBeckham
by Servant2LordBeckham on Mar 1, 2010 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
fangraphs has one that's Tango approved
it’s WPA – WPA/LI
iirc, there’s little correlation from year to year. it’s just not a great effect.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
Gracias Colin
"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen
"I'd rather have Rios hit 50 home runs than steal 50 bases. I want to win." - Servant2LordBeckham
by Servant2LordBeckham on Mar 1, 2010 2:45 PM CST up reply actions
but is it WTGTD approved?
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 2:50 PM CST up reply actions
aside from massive plastic tits
what exactly is WTGTD approved?
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
plastic tits aren't really my cup of tea...
Yet, they are WTGTD approved. I see the inconsistencies that you speak of. What constitutes a WTGTD stamp? Well, I don’t even know the answer to that, it just happens.
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
This is what I imagine a WTGTD stamp to be
Not trying to stoke the flames, just going for a laugh.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
if liking skanks like this is wrong....
i dont wanna be right. I’m still on the bench due to pregnancies… please refrain from posting hot whores for another week.
Kenwo4life=ratings
She would be better without that TTS (tribal tramp stamp). U know its approved when u see the following!
here triples go to die
APPROVED
"You actually talk about me to your wife??? I love it.!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 3, 2010 1:01 PM CST up reply actions
Will you approve of this picture if I use it anytime our third baseman does something relevant during the season?
"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen
"I'd rather have Rios hit 50 home runs than steal 50 bases. I want to win." - Servant2LordBeckham
by Servant2LordBeckham on Mar 1, 2010 2:59 PM CST up reply actions
not that you asked
but i definitely will.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
Cocktease?
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Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Mar 1, 2010 3:06 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
I think you're thinking of Torii Hunter and Johnny Damon.
"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen
"I'd rather have Rios hit 50 home runs than steal 50 bases. I want to win." - Servant2LordBeckham
by Servant2LordBeckham on Mar 1, 2010 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
Rec'd.
Partially because this is hilarious, partially out of guilt for having read – and completely forgotten – the Bloody Sunday post linked above.
"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"
needs another glass
still good
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
if you say "go green" the comment should have at least 2 recs before you refresh.
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 3:33 PM CST up reply actions
or go from 0 to 4 recs before i refresh.
my apologies.
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 3:39 PM CST up reply actions
doubtful.
where’s the pickle?
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 3:09 PM CST up reply actions
pining for a midday bloody?
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
always
mine end up turning into small meals with as much shit as i put in them.
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 3:31 PM CST up reply actions
one of the many joys of sucking the government nipple...
midday boozing.
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 3:32 PM CST up reply actions
i thanked pods for game 2.
when i said the rest-thanks for nothing.. i was talking about the rest of the sox on the royals…. anderson, fields and getz…. especially anderson. Yes pods played well in the first half of 2005 for us… other than that he was pretty bad in his first stint…. last year he had a nice batting average and a few big hits… but was awful in the outfield and even worse running the bases. throw in the fact that the brewers robbed us in the trade that brought him here (and i don’t give a shit about the money so save it TDogg)…. and I never really cared for him from the day he became a white sox.
Kenwo4life=ratings
So..
You just don’t like the guy. That would have sufficed.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 1, 2010 8:54 AM CST up reply actions
But...but...
Something something sparkplug…!
Something something leadoff position…!
Something something Lisa Dergan…!
Something something Let’s go, Go-Go Whiiiiiiiite Sox…!
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
I gave up on you with this a long time ago
Newsflash we won the World Series in 2005 so I really don’t give a shit what you think. :-)
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
by Tdogg on Mar 1, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
i am ending all arguments today in that exact manner.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Mar 1, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
impossible
it’s only 2010.
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 2:16 PM CST up reply actions
he's the same as a crapload of other
tenuously above replacement players.
that said, it was pretty fun to watch him hit those homers. i was always totally shocked.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
The hatred is more a product of his situation
Then of Pods. Outside of KenWo I don’t think people here really dislike the guy. He’s just the epitome of all that is wrong about “Ozzie ball” or Small Ball or Grinding, whatever you want to call it. Making outs on the basepaths, poor fielding, things that the stats-influenced fans can’t stand.
More so, the fact we had to rely on him, was really just an example of how bad our season had become. You add that to the Hawk love-fest of Pods, that you listen to on the TV every game, and I think it snowballs. It’s one of those things, where if the guy is just able to go and do his job, and you don’t have to hear about it, you wouldn’t think to complain all that much. But you hear Hawk or the less knowledgeable fan on the street who just loves his Grinder attitude at the ball park, and it makes you cringe.
So no, I don’t think it’s fair the hate Pods gets, but in the end I think it is more a hate of what Pods stands for, not the man himself or what he’s done here.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 1, 2010 9:57 AM CST up reply actions
The concept of a Sox fan truly disliking any significant contributor from the '05 team is foreign to me.
Others’ mileage may vary.
by The Actual El Guapo on Mar 1, 2010 1:15 PM CST up reply actions
aside from kenwo
i don’t think anyone really dislikes sox players. these guys can’t help what Kenny and Ozzie do.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
I was seething every time I saw Rob Mackowiak take center in 2006
That and the Sunday line-ups turned me against Ozzie almost as much as Kenwo
The Cubs are not a baseball team. They are a baseball-themed marketing company that hosts frat parties for post grads and tourists.
it may well be that the sunday lineups
are responsible to some degree for the health of this team. not that i enjoy watching them.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
It still seems like conceding every sixth day.
What’s wrong with staggering those days off? That would be managing.
The Cubs are not a baseball team. They are a baseball-themed marketing company that hosts frat parties for post grads and tourists.
it's not conceding
an otherwise average team with a replacement level starter going 9 innings will still win 40% of the time.
and if you lose wins by taking normal starters out, it’s not clear that there’s any kind of multiplicative effect of having more than 1 replacement player in the lineup. linear estimates do very well.
what i’d rather he did is better leveraging. Vizquel should obviously never DH, but he makes sense to play in the field against a pitcher you don’t expect to score a lot of runs against. i.e. Teahen’s going 0-4 anyway.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
You see Vizquel manning third?
40 percent is still failing and while it may not be clear by the numbers, losing that many WAR on a given day, all at once has to be multiplicative.
If the manager is supposed to give his team the best chance to win each game, then scrap Sunday is unacceptable.
Also, from a sheer marketing perspective it is stupid. I could sometimes only attend weekend games, but after 2006, I stopped buying Sunday games which used to be my favorite day to go. Hence, the sox lost my money by about a 1/3 in 2007 and 2008 before I moved. So, it is stupid to lose revenue because you insist on fielding a sub-par product on one of the few days almost everyone could make it to the ball park.
"Quantify my balls."
- Kenwo
i'm pretty sure they've crunched those numbers
and found them to be acceptable. and seriously, linear estimations (i.e. if you take out 2 1 WAR players, you’ll lose 2 WAR) do very very well. that’s why wOBA works.
Also: there are 6 months, so let’s say 24 sundays and a true difference in winning percentage of .01 (that’s 16 wins difference over 162 games). That’s 2 wins lost given no other considerations.
The problem is that the Sox have consistently overperformed their projections, likely for health reasons. So it’s hard to say that there’s an actual issue there.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
hmm I wonder
I suppose your right but 09’s Sunday record was 8-19. Ouch. I wonder about previous years.
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
can you look it up for the Ozzie era?
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
http://soxmachine.com/soxmachine/2009/08/24/bloody-sundays/
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
lol
oh crap or you could go to Jim’s site who has discussed this before.
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
The horrible thing is I read that damn piece
when you first put it up.
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
Based off this
I’d say the bloody Sunday are worth it if it really is keeping the team healthy. 09 just sticks out.
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
has he consistently used Sunday lineups?
it seems like it, but i can’t remember.
but if so, how the hell has he posted a .526? not that small a sample either.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
Probably because some form of bloody sunday is
happening on the other side.
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
I know the Red Sox do it when Wakefield pitches
I can’t say I have seen another team do it though
"Quantify my balls."
- Kenwo
have you noticed that?
i may have been too busy weeping for our lineup. you think there’s a gentleman’s agreement between managers or something?
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
I really haven't
but nothing else really makes sense. The teams have been pretty good in this era overall.
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
well obviously luck could be
a possibility, but it’s nice to know we’re not pissing away games.
thanks for the research Jim
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
Now you know
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Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Mar 1, 2010 3:07 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
that's replacement level performance, btw
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
Our bench
Was pretty god damn awful. Lillibridge, Anderson, Owens, Wise, Fields, Betemit, all spent time there last year. I doubt those guys were “replacement level”, but Colin would be able to answer that better then I. I’m surprised we even won 8.
We may not have a DH, but at least our Sunday lineup should be improved this year.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 1, 2010 2:41 PM CST up reply actions
You are still paying full price for subpar
And I’ll take those two wins with the way the AL Central has come down to the wire over the past two years.
Again, wouldn’t staggering days off for key players still be the better bet? You would provide the same amount of rest without creating that two los deficit.
I’m sure there is a way to manage days off that will provide better than a 40 percent chance of winning.
"Quantify my balls."
- Kenwo
staggering players' days off results in the same loss of wins
over longer periods of time.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
this is me just thinking and not doing research.. because research is for nerds...
but weren’t the sox one of the most healthiest teams before ozzie got there? I’m going all the way back to larussa….
Kenwo4life=ratings
they've had consistent ownership
and Kenny worked under Schueler ,so it’s not out of the question that it goes back farther. we just don’t have the data (iirc).
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
i'm saying before schueler....
larry himes, hawk, hemond? If i’m not mistaken it goes back quite a while. when you were still swimming in your daddy’s nutsack the sox were pretty good on injuries
Kenwo4life=ratings
I'd love to know if they staeyd healthy without sacrificing Sundays
Even though I was impressed with .526. Still, so many of those games seemed preventable losses if we just would have had a real bat here or there.
"Quantify my balls."
- Kenwo
sometimes not doing further damage
is worth something.
Ozzie career win percentage as a manger.
.526
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
Good for him
There should still never be a day where I as a fan can confidently pencil in a loss due to the manager’s whims. Yet, Sunday’s have been that way, except when we get lucky, or are in the thick of contention.
"Quantify my balls."
- Kenwo
There's also no proof that playing the good bats
would result in further damage. See KenWo’s notes below.
"Quantify my balls."
- Kenwo
Herm's been there that whole time, I believe.
"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"
thats my point..
people give ozzie the credit… but i think its been going on before he was a twinkle in any sox fans eye
Kenwo4life=ratings
i didn't realize he'd been there that long
that’s probably only part of it though. the other part is deciding whom to give contracts too.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
But wouldn't this also suggest that it is not necessarily Scrub Sundays keeping us healthy
And therefore Ozzie is putting us through meaningless sacrifice.
"Quantify my balls."
- Kenwo
anyway, there's no reason
to think Ozzie is primarily responsible.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
When we got Mac it was applauded as a good utility move.
I just don’t feel like killing anyone else for as long as I can help it.
go green s2lbr2d2!
he will always be a world series hero for me. other than that, he sucked and if he wouldn’t have hit that home run, I would have always remembered that dying quail he threw home earlier in that game.
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 2:11 PM CST up reply actions
i think pods is getting the added pressure of marrying a playmate
dergan is going to dump his ass if he’s out of work
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Mar 1, 2010 9:45 AM CST up reply actions
Yep. Then instead of Dergan, it'll be the Jergens...
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
Youy are PW'ed.
No one ever admits that. No one.
I just don’t feel like killing anyone else for as long as I can help it.
OK, so he's right handed
But he’s been on the wire long enough to seriously consider DHing. Kenny, call Dye and send Nix to AAA.
The Cubs are not a baseball team. They are a baseball-themed marketing company that hosts frat parties for post grads and tourists.
why does your sig change every 5 minutes?
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 2:21 PM CST up reply actions
That is the first time I had changed my sig since joining SSS detective.
And quite frankly, “quantify my balls” made me choke on an almond. It is quote worthy.
"Quantify my balls."
- Kenwo
I think almonds perfectly quantify Kenwo's balls.
"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"
Now, don't makle me change my sig again
And give Trips another reason to bitch
"Quantify my balls."
- Kenwo
obligatory
HOW DO YOU WALK WITH THOSE THINGS
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
I know you've seen him walking around or riding his bike, legs bowed out...
Johnny Big Nuts ring a bell?
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 3:14 PM CST up reply actions
Remember he just had a kid, so the wife is on the bench a few weeks
The swelling and blue tints should subside KenWo once she’s back in action.
"Quantify my balls."
- Kenwo
by justjc on Mar 1, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah i forgot
that’s probably blown out for a little while.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
No wonder I couldn't figure it out. It was a goddamn dream!!!
But now that it’s over, I think I like the way this character is gonna evolve. I too like sunrises, especially with coffee, cigs, and no people around to crap on it.
http://www.saltwaterpickle.com/
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
Is there a special app you need to see those pics?
They are not coming up for me.
The Cubs are not a baseball team. They are a baseball-themed marketing company that hosts frat parties for post grads and tourists.
Two rumors:
Lowell possibly headed to Twins: http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/articles/2010/02/28/08_cinderellas_hope_the_shoe_fits_better_this_time/?page=full
Peavy talking up a A. Gonzalez trade that could send Flowers, Hudson, Floyd, and/or Beckham: http://www.cbssports.com/mlb/story/12985283/white-sox-camp-tour-peavy-fitting-in-making-own-pitch?tag=TeamNews
Probably just super rumor-ry, but there you have it!
Hi, I'm Jake Peavy.
Let’s trade all my new teammates for my old teammates.
Lurking since 2006
by boyonthedock on Mar 1, 2010 11:00 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
That is the dumbest rumor I've seen in a long time.
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
by Tdogg on Mar 1, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
The worst part if it happens will be that
SoxNet will claim they called it back in November.
Chicago White Sox Examiner — IT'S A JEEP THING YOU WOULDN'T UNDERSTAND
by UribeAuction on Mar 1, 2010 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
lol
Even cost set aside (which is ridiculously in the sox favor of such a trade) why would KW create those types of holes to end with a net loss for production? Here San Diego take an offensive catcher, an above avg starter, an above avg second basemen and probable productive 6th starter starter as a cherry on top? Hell consider what the Sox gave up for Peavy. This is beyond dumb.
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
you wouldn't trade Hudson, Floyd and Flowers for Gonzalez?
I would in a heartbeat. I don’t like the Beckham thing… but if it was these 3??? hell yah id do it. I love Floyd- but Gonzalez is a stud. Hudson and Flowers? Doesn’t bother me at all.. in fact throw in Jordan Danks and Brent Morrel.
Kenwo4life=ratings
for two years of a 1B?
no thanks. i’m sure you’d love that fifth starter situation without floyd or hudson, too. carlos torres is just the tops.
bartolo is still out there.
but yeah i’d do it. i’d hope to work out an extension before the trade was finalized though.
Kenwo4life=ratings
you mean Pedro...
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 2:23 PM CST up reply actions
I truly think the birth of your child
has changed you forever. This trade rumor is lunacy.
I just don’t feel like killing anyone else for as long as I can help it.
this is just for you larry....
maybe they could throw us jon garland back too. That’d be boss!
Kenwo4life=ratings
What?
You mean the difference between Konerko and AGonz is not bigger than Floyd-Hudson / Torres-who the phuck knows???
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
hitters play everyday... pitchers once out of 5 games.
i’ll take the better hitter every time.
Kenwo4life=ratings
starting pitchers face 28 batters every fifth game.
batters have 21 place appearances every five games.
good sample size
You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan
by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 1, 2010 12:12 PM CST up reply actions
Have I told you lately Im glad you don't run my team?
Better hitter than who? Not to mention again you somehow forget about the cost difference vs production.
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
all i know is i'd take
adrian gonzalez at first, konerko DH and Jon Garland as my 5th starter over Kotsay and Jones at DH, Konerko at first and Floyd in my rotation.
Kenwo4life=ratings
all i know is I'd take A Pujols at first
Konerko at DH and Carlos Silva over Kotsay and Jones blah blah blah. What has that got to do with the price of tea in China? I didn’t realize a deal for Floyd straight up AGonz existed. I think we get at this point in your fantasyland of trades you don’t use any money constraints so why stop there? Give us the whole Yankee roster!
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
gonzalez isn't even expensive.
and fuck prospects…. they are all just suspects. how many times have people cried that williams traded away a prospect… which one of those ever turned out to be anything? none that i can remember.
Kenwo4life=ratings
good grief
Kenwo pull your head out of your ass. No one is just bitching because of just 1 thing. Its the combination of it all. Floyd was a 4.5 WAR pitcher last year.
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
And is locked into a team-friendly deal for several years.
Big value.
"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"
You're cute.
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Mar 1, 2010 1:28 PM CST up reply actions
Ryan Sweeney
Chris Young… Kip Wells… and several young guys that are still emerging. Not that any of those guys are Hanley Ramirez, but some of them would have been really nice to have.
You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan
by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 1, 2010 5:52 PM CST up reply actions
kip wells?
i could see the other two…especially since Anderson was chosen as the heir apparent over both of them… but its not like they are all stars either. the one that makes me nervous is brandon allen. I am still very unsure of why that trade was made.
Kenwo4life=ratings
chris carter?
way more concerned about carter than allen.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
Carter got us Quentin....
who had an mvp type season….. Allen got us pena. I would have rather had Allen and Dotel than Pena and nobody.
Kenwo4life=ratings
I would take Ryan Sweeney over Juan Pierre
In our outfield, and no, Nick Swisher was not worth it.
"Quantify my balls."
- KenWo
1 WAR = 1 WAR
regardless if you get it in 30 games or 150.
White Sox fan; Jeppson's Malort man
by KarkoviceIsHawt on Mar 1, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions
quantify my balls....
if you think konerko is anywhere near gonzalez you are a crackhead.
Kenwo4life=ratings
well, we have not seen the scouting videos on your gonads, but..
considering your age, factoring in your new child, I would say they rate a 0.5 WART (Wins above replacement testees)
Just a Rip-off of the Actual El Guapo, but a fake not funny one.
by DrEmilioLizardo on Mar 1, 2010 12:43 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Make it Hudson and Flowers, and I'm in.
Oh yeah, and they have to take Linebrink back. We’ll still pay him, but they have to take him back.
"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"
BREAKING NEWS: Peavy still wants A-Gone! Smell that? Smells like it's time for another three-team trade fairytale rumor to run with SoxNot.
http://twitter.com/cst_sox/status/9834657199
turns the knife.
SoxNet has learned
What sadness feels like.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Mar 1, 2010 1:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Most recent post, BTW.
“SoxNet.net is hearing good things from one of its sources this morning in regards to the Johnny Damon situation. "
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
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by Sox Machine on Mar 1, 2010 1:45 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
no kidding
Floyd and Beckham were worth as much as Gonzalez by themselves in ’09 for less money.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
Now I do like Peavy's enthusiam in bringing players
One of the things I continue to hate Linebrink for (in addition to sucking) is his lame ass attempt to convince Peavy to waive his no trade clause the 1st time around. It was beyond poor and reading between the lines I think even toxic. My buddy jokes I really should let it go. Screw that. I hate him with a passion. I’m talking KenWO hate.
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
by Tdogg on Mar 1, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
we win the division if he waives it the first time around right?
gotta win at least 86 anyway.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
question
I understand that as a general way of evaluating this, you can compare the WAR values of Floyd, Beckham and Hudson versus Gonzalez. However, isn’t there some sort of inherent value in the WAR value of Gonzalez being more concentrated? Because while I understand that our 3 provide more value in aggregate, it does not take into account the opportunity of having other players in their spots that are not represented in the prospective trade.
I’m not saying this as a recommendation for making the trade in any way, it was just a question about evaluation prospective trades or past trades.
yes and you would also have to take into account the cost
there is no consideration whatsoever in a trade like that. You have players like Beckham, Hudson, Flowers and even Floyd so you CAN afford to sign players like Peavy, AGonz and other at their market rate.
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
Tdogg is correct, but he brought up cash
which I’d like to avoid for the moment but it is important to the discussion of Gonazles.
Yes, there is a bonus for having all your WAR in one basket, as it were, but that comes with two problems:
1. injury of your single source of WAR
2. finding someone to replace the multiple players you traded
I actually just thought of the first one so I have nothing else to say about that.
The second point involves a larger-in-scope analysis of the team giving up multiple players. In this case, to evaluate trading Beckham and Floyd we’d have to consider their replacements. (Their replacements would be, what, Nix/Vizquel and Hudson/Torres?) You sub in replacement level players who have a WAR of 0, which is roughly those two groups, so for the analysis of the individual trade, no. You don’t take the opportunity cost of eating up multiple roster spots for a certain amount of wins.
You need to diversify your WAR
White Sox fan; Jeppson's Malort man
by KarkoviceIsHawt on Mar 2, 2010 11:43 AM CST up reply actions
that stuff normally gets talked about when the actual deal goes down
for example you can’t talk about trading Javy without the money you no longer owe him.
the case here would be that we’re talking about one roster spot opened up with not a ton of cash, so the considerations aren’t that important.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
Unless Jake Peavy has changed his name to Jed Hoyer, and is also the Padres' GM
Then this discussion is moot.
Adam Dunn is a more realistic.
If KW is able to land A-Gonz without giving up Gordon Beckham, he will be immune from criticism for at least a year. Even if he signs Linebrink to a 10 year, $100m extension.
Nah, wait a year and get Prince Fielder
The Cubs are not a baseball team. They are a baseball-themed marketing company that hosts frat parties for post grads and tourists.
The Red Sox and Yankees can't get all these younger sluggers can they?
Oh wait, it’s only AGon and Fielder we’re talking about. So yes they can.
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game in 2008. Thanks John Danks and Jim Thome.
by NorthSidePaulie on Mar 1, 2010 5:43 PM CST up reply actions
The Yankees are pretty set with Tex, Red Sox have declared they are gunning for AGon
Fielder is ripe for our taking with Konerko and AJ coming off the books.
"Quantify my balls."
- KenWo
except he is a Boras client
and not FA eligible until after 2011.
You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan
by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 2, 2010 6:29 PM CST up reply actions
Ooooh. LH power bat.
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game in 2008. Thanks John Danks and Jim Thome.
by NorthSidePaulie on Mar 1, 2010 3:07 PM CST up reply actions
That's my bet
unless of course Jones mucks up the plan. In a good way.
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
Has anyone actually seen Jones' newfound svelte physique?
Pictures? Is this reality?
From all accounts
Yes. 25 pounds from last spring. On top of 20 last year from LA.
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
I do think he's worth a chance.
I’m looking forward to seeing him. It may not be crazy to think that if he keeps his weight down and regains some confidence, he could give 400 AB’s and a .245/.335/.465. I’d take that lickitysplit.
except in that case
he should probably be in the outfield.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
He's pictured above, and in the photo gallery that accompanies the story...
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Note the three chin cut-line
The Cubs are not a baseball team. They are a baseball-themed marketing company that hosts frat parties for post grads and tourists.
What is the general feeling about what Dunn would cost in a mid-season trade?
"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"
Substantially less
He’s expensive and at the end of the deal. If the Sox agree to pay…then it wouldn’t take that much in terms of prospects to get it done.
At least compared to what the Padres will be asking for Gonz.
I assumed that'd be the case. This is the route to go, in my world.
Extending Dunn will be less expensive than Gonz (or signing Prince, who is the ultimate prize in my book), and we could keep a few scraps in the farm.
"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"
fuck dunn...
give me gonzalez or the prince… dunn= a better version of danny pasqua
Kenwo4life=ratings
For what it's worth, it sounds like the Nats want to extend Dunn.
I’d love to get him, but who knows if he’ll be available. Personally, I think the Nats would be crazy not to grab pitching for him if they could.
he's done that a few times iirc
he’s part of the reason i know i’m terrible at fantasy
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
you can probably get him around the 8th round now...
I think Im more inclined to believe in older guys(mid 30s) now that I always was before because I am one and am in denial that its all down hill from here.
I've only grown more doubting as I've aged
Except for Dye. He resides firmly in my blind spot and I want him back.
"Quantify my balls."
- Kenwo
Herm/Sox secrets to be "shared"?
Starting this Spring Training, baseball’s trainers and doctors have a new tool at their disposal that eventually will provide an encyclopedia of knowledge on every professional player. It’s much like one being used in the National Hockey League the last three seasons, and like the NHL one designed by SuttonMed Systems, but customized to fit baseball’s specific injury dynamic.
The system, which also will be used for Major League umpires, is secure with tracking of access, which is limited to specific personnel within an organization. With it, Conte can remain totally apprised of a Double-A second baseman’s injury progress, and a general manager can track reports from a pitcher’s Minor League rehab assignment in real time. Where there used to be stacks and cabinets of files, there will be digital access to magnetic resonance imaging (MRI) scans, X-rays, reports and any other records. And, unlike in the past, there will be standardization, which will aid in team medical staffs knowing the history of a player arriving via trade or Minor League or Major League free agency.
“One of the things that’s going to happen with this system is that everybody’s going to be speaking the same language,” Conte said.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100228&content_id=8632528&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
surprised this hasn't happened already
processing power, data technology, mobile stuff, it’s all advanced so much in the last 10 years that putting a user friendly database together doesn’t require much nearly as much resource outlay as it used to.
now only if Omar Minaya knew how to use a computer…
Colin gets an acronym: YUCKIES
“It’s not quite the word I wanted to use to describe myself, but there it is, the latest acronym trotted out to denote what I am: a Young Unwitting Costly Kid, sapping my baby-boomer parents of all their hard-earned savings, and probably their will to live. New research released this week has found that an incredible 93 per cent of parents contribute to the finances of their Yuckies.
Previously I have been a Kipper – Kids In Parents’ Pockets Eroding Retirement Savings – while other members of my generation – I think that we are Generation Y, or perhaps I; one can never quite be sure – have been described as boomerang kids, returning to live at home when they really should know better."
http://schott.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/03/01/yuckies/
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Mar 1, 2010 12:09 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
i'm in the will
so at least i’ve got the right incentive
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
because YWCKIES isn't as catchy?
if you get to be resentful of old people jokes…
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
lol worthy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDTnzx01NtA
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
"He'd like to help build a team without having to balance the budget and negotiate contracts."
So, he’s like to get paid to point at guys and say, “he’d be good.” Yeah, who wouldn’t.
"Quantify my balls."
- Kenwo
by justjc on Mar 1, 2010 2:16 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
LaRussa's imput:
“How to win the occasional World Series on the backs of juiced players”
Which isn’t terribly dissimilar to the Dusty Baker approach:
“How to lose spectacularly/comically on the backs of juiced players”
"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"
Sidenote: it is one of the more regrettable facts of life that SSS gamethreads did not exist during the 2003 playoffs.
I can only imagine the hilarity that would’ve followed that 8th inning.
"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"
icky mettle is pretty great
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
were you two when that came out
after seeing a superchunk gig in fall of ‘93 at the blind pig / champaign, i was lucky enough to take advantage of jim wilbur’s sage advice “if you have $10 left in your wallet, buy icky mettle!”
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Mar 1, 2010 2:31 PM CST up reply actions
i was 8!
and i finally gave it another shot after disliking it in high school. i liked surfer rosa…but not icky mettle. go figure.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
take it easy, goddamn indie kids are so sensitive these days
but i’m puzzled how you could dislike and then like icky mettle.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Mar 1, 2010 2:47 PM CST up reply actions
my music tastes have changed
i had a friend who used to constantly rag on me for listening to “pussy music”
which was largely true, outside of a few exceptions. Hum, The Pixies, Failure, Nirvana, and Metallica all gained some degree of acceptance, but i listened to way more American Football, Neutral Milk Hotel, and Death Cab For Cutie. waaaaaay more.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
Metallica is dead to me.
Ever since they basically ruined free music I wont listen to any of their stuff.
i haven't really listened to them since 10th grade
but i’m pretty confident i’d still dig the old stuff.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
Metallica is dead to me.
Ever since they basically ruined music, I wont listen to any of their stuff.
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 3:01 PM CST up reply actions
MOTLEY FUCKING CRUE
is still great though.
Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Mar 1, 2010 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
to each is own...
until you bring up cockrock. fuck that shit with an aids dick.
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 3:05 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Fail.
Crue remains awesome.
So does Metallica, despite being a bag of dicks – “Death Magnetic”, the newest album, is fantastic.
"I call Dotel, got his ass kick. I call Linebrink, got his ass kick. Everybody I call is the wrong guy. I guess it's my fault!"
yeah... crue really brings the awesome.
:l
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 3:19 PM CST up reply actions
thanks for letting me off the hook
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
i might have liked you colin if you were still listening to that twee shite :)
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Mar 1, 2010 2:56 PM CST up reply actions
well if you guys nail me to the cross here
i’ll eventually learn and stop posting super embarrassing shit.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
c'mon, start a fucking music thread for chrissake
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Mar 1, 2010 2:57 PM CST up reply actions
you do it!
i just dled two huge singles collections, Stax and Atlantic R&B, along with Icky Mettle. so it’s been pretty good the last two days.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
didn't start until college
now i dig me some Sondheim
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
you listen to Hum?
thats pretty 3r337. They were on a Cadillac not too long ago, which shocked me.
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
The Downward Spiral remains a fave
Astronaut is alright
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
downward is heavanward?
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 3:02 PM CST up reply actions
ugh
of course.
downward is heaven.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
hold on, let me check.
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 3:03 PM CST up reply actions
cadillac commercial*
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 3:01 PM CST up reply actions
which song?
link maybe?
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
i have a really choppy internet connection right now but here sir.
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 3:23 PM CST up reply actions
ty
that was their big song for some reason. i’m only okay on it. there’s like a half dozen songs on DiH that are better.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
totally agree
i used to jam DIH on the bus during my freshman year of highschool… well them and screeching weasel.
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 3:34 PM CST up reply actions
Real puss rock involves Counting Crows, Cold Play, Ben Folds Five, etc.
"Quantify my balls."
- Kenwo
I don't think it's really about A-Rod. The Tiger hunt may be on...
TAMPA, Fla. — Alex Rodriguez said on Monday that he has been contacted by federal authorities seeking to interview him in connection with their investigation of the Canadian doctor Anthony Galea, who is suspected of distributing performance-enhancing drugs to various athletes.
Asked by reporters if he had ever been treated by Galea, Rodriguez responded: "I can’t really get into that. You’ll know within time all at the same time."
Galea, who is based in Toronto, has been charged by Canadian authorities with conspiring to smuggle human growth hormone and other drugs into the United States. He has not been charged in the United States.
He has denied that he provided professional athletes with performance-enhancing drugs but said that he had used human growth hormone for the last 10 years and prescribed it for some patients. Among the more notable athletes he has treated are the golfer Tiger Woods and the swimmer Dana Torres.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/02/sports/baseball/02arod.html
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
i always eat veal prior to court appearances.
washed down with the blood of children.
by larry on Mar 1, 2010 2:59 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I always knew you were a Member of the Tribe, larry
by Sox-35th on Mar 1, 2010 3:37 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Not so fast.
You don’t know how that veal was butchered.
when I worked in a meat dept. at a grocery store ages ago
it was SOP to throw some pork in with the ground lamb for the arabs at that place just to get ’em.
My soon to be bro-in-law said something about this over the holidays
Apparently its only a sin to eat pork knowingly. If anything, all you did was make their lamb a little more delicious!
Mmmm lamb/pork hybrid. Imagine the delicious possibilities!
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
holy crap
RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010
an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry
Yes I do. It was with his bare hands and teeth
Just like the rest of us.
Even if THAT's legit, aren't there docs/hospitals that do it in FLA?
Why would Tiger have to have a Canadian doc fly in?
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
healthcare in this country man.
it’s going to hell.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
The Canadian doctor will cut you a deal on generic calf's blood
"Quantify my balls."
- Kenwo
by justjc on Mar 1, 2010 3:04 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
this is the guy who invented the procedure.
whether it works or is illegal or whatever, he may very well have a proprietary method.
i don’t want to go too far down this road, but there is a reason that athletes go see dr. andrews even though there are doctors who do what he does where they are.
Blood-spinning is a method of providing therapeutic (and, some claim, performance) benefits to the human body through the removal, modification and reintroduction of the body’s own blood. Introduced at the University of Miami’s Miller School of Medicine in 1998, it involves removing a quantity of a subject’s blood and then subjecting it to centrifuge (hence ‘spinning’). The centrifuging process concentrates the platelets found in blood into a plasma which has a thicker constituency than normal blood. The red blood cells are usually discarded during the process.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
some tweets from strength coach Allen Thomas:
-team starting weights at 6 instead of 7 this year
-“best group of guys I’ve seen in 16 years” re. team’s shape
- everyone agrees one of best conditioned group we’ve seen, ozzie, baseball group, thomas
can’t reference them, but they’re from InsideTheSox
why is SSS jumping around after every comment?
this is why i don’t really participate at BAB.
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 3:25 PM CST reply actions
And what about the spiders all over the screen?
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Mar 1, 2010 3:26 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Are you implying I caught a virus or I dropped some acid?
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 3:28 PM CST up reply actions
if it ain't green, it ain't me
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 3:42 PM CST up reply actions
I'll go ahead and imply
That when someone posts a comment above the line you are reading, it will make the screen jump down to accomodate the new post.
"Quantify my balls."
- Kenwo
imply
or state explicitly?
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
i know what you're saying
but i’ll be at the top of the thread and it will scroll to the very bottom.
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 3:41 PM CST up reply actions
the most recent version of firefox/windows 7 ultimate.
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 1, 2010 5:10 PM CST up reply actions
Tried using Chrome?
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Mar 2, 2010 2:24 PM CST up reply actions
OSFIB placated
http://www.southsidesox.com/2010/3/1/1332040/world-wide-web-in-front-return-of
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
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