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What Is and What Never Would Be: Former White Sox OF Prospects

Never forget.

Never forget.

I liked justjc's idea of taking a look back at former top prospects that the Sox traded away.  I decided to start with the outfielders and limit it to the past half-decade.  I also left Aaron Cunningham out, since I feel its still too early to say anything much about his trade and future.  That left me with six young men (in absolutely no specific order): Chris B. Young, Ryan Sweeney, Jeremy Reed, Brian N. Anderson, Jerry Owens, and Joe Borchard.

Chris B. Young: The Sox drafted Young in the 16th round (493rd pick) of the 2001 draft out of Bellaire High School in Bellaire, Texas.  He took two years to ge tgoing, but began dominating the minors in 2004 with a .261/.365/.503 line in Kannapolis.  This resulted in BA naming him the 6th best prospect in the farm system, as well as the fastest baserunner and best athlete.  Shortly after posting a .922 OPS and 32 steals in 38 attempts at Birmingham, he was shipped to Arizona with Orlando Hernandez and Luis Vizcaino for Javier Vazquez on December 12, 2005.  He continued his hot hitting in 2006, being named the 12th best prospect in baseball entering the 2007 season.  He played 148 games for the Diamondbacks, hitting .237/.295/.467 with 32 homers and 27 steals.  His performance earned him fourth place in the NL RotY voting.  He followed that with a more productive 2008, improving his OBP and defense enough to be worth 2.2 WAR.  The wheels fell off last season, as his defense crapped out, ISO dropped yet again, and K% spiked to a career-high 30.7%.  He had a better second half, but it seems like being an averageish player is his ceiling.  Career line: .235/.307/.438.

Ryan Sweeney: Sweeney was the Sox second round choice in 2003 (52nd) out of Xavier High School in Cedar Rapids, Iowa.  He was awarded a $785,000 signing bonus.  He took well to the minors, showing a strong arm and a decent batting eye, but lacking more than doubles power.  He garnered high praise his entire minor league career: 2005-42nd best in MiLB, 2nd in CHW as well as best hitter for average and best outfield arm, 2006-92nd best MiLB, 3rd in CHW as well as best outfield arm, 2007-55th best MiLB, 1st in CHW as well as best hitter for average and best outfield defense.  He was sent to Oakland with Fautino de los Santos and Gio Gonzalez for Nick Swisher on January 3, 2008.  He was worth 4.1 WAR last season, splitting time between right and center while playing plus defense in both.  This is the only outfield prospect we traded away on this list that looks like it may bite Kenny Williams in the ass, mostly due to the second Swisher trade getting us back nothing from the Yankees.  Career line: .284/.341/.387.

Star-divide

Jeremy Reed: One of the first prospects I remember watching fail, Jeremy Reed was drafted out of Long Beach State University in the second round (59th) of the 2002 draft and given a $650,000 signing bonus.  Reed was absolutely fantastic in 2003, hitting a combined line of .373/.453/.537 with 45 steals at Winston-Salem and Birmingham.  Going into the 2004 season, he was our best prospect and the 25th best in all baseball.  We then traded him to the Mariners with Mike Morse and Miguel Olivo for Ben Davis and Freddy Garcia June 27, 2004.  The centerfield job was his to lose in Seattle in 2005, and he did just that by posting a .254/.322/.352 line, though he did lead all centerfielders in range factor.  He may have turned it around, but he broke his wrist on the outfield wall, starting an upsetting injury trend.  He was sent to the Mets in the massive three-team trade that involved Cleveland as well on December 11, 2008.  Thanks to Omar Minaya signing a team of glass figurines, Reed actually played in 126 games last year.  He was awful.  He has been worth .5 WAR for his career, with 2005 being the last season he wasn't in the negatives.  He now dwells in the minors of Toronto.  Career line: .255/.312/.357.

Brian Anderson: And onto our most recent disappointment.  Brian Anderson is the first player on this list to actually play more than two seasons in the majors for the White Sox.  Brian was the 15th player picked in the 2003 draft.  He went to the University of Arizona and received a $1,600,000 signing bonus.  He hit well enough in the minors, especially when coupled with his incredibly promising defense.  He was the best defensive outfielder in the system in 2005 and 2006.  He was also labeled the 37th and 51st best prospect in baseball in 05 and 06, as well as our 1st and 2nd best respectively.  Anderson's "readiness" allowed the White Sox to trade Aaron Rowand away for Jim Thome, giving Brian his chance to start in center.  His bat simply never translated to the major league level, and eventually his defense merely became average.  He was never more than a back-up after he lost his starting job to Darin Erstad in 2007.  Kenny Williams finally gave up on the golden boy on July 28, 2009 when he was shipped up to Boston for Mark Kotsay.  He recently signed a major league deal with the Royals, wasting one of the spots on their 40-man roster.  Thanks Dayton!  Career line: .227/.290/.370.

Jerry Owens: Jerry Owens is the only player on this list who wasn't drafted by the Pale Hose.  Owens was selected by Montreal a mere four picks after we chose Sweeney in 2003.  He played college ball at The Master's College.  On Valentine's Day in 2005, the Sox sent Alex Escobar to the newly renamed Montreal Expos to obtain Jerry.  He was named our 5th best prospect for the upcoming season, along with being annointed the best hitter for average, fastest baserunner, and best athlete.  His best season came in 2007 on the strength of his 32 stolen bases and above-average defense in center.  We'll just ignore his .267/.324/.312 for now.  He tore his right adductor muscle early on in 2008, allowing Carlos Quentin to play in the outfield.  WE all know how that worked out.  Like Anderson, the organization's patience ran out this last season and Owens was released.  He latched on with Seattle and played in Tacoma for the rest of the season.  He recently signed a minor-league deal with the Nationals, potentially bringing him back to his first franchise.  Career line: .262/.319/.305.

Joe Borchard: So much suck, it's not even funny.  Joe was the 12th pick in the 2000 draft.  He played at Stanford, where he also played quarterback.  He was given a $5,300,000 signing bonus, the largest in baseball history until Justin Upton signed for $6.1 mil in 2005.  This is obviously still a White Sox record.  He was heavily hyped right out of the gate, being called the 23rd best prospect in baseball and the 2nd best in the system.  He had his best minor league season that year in Birmingham, hitting 27 bombs to go with his .295/.384/.509 line.  This resulted in mroe praise, being called the 12th best overall and our top prospect.  Then things began to go south.  His numbers all dropped, but no one was too worried as he had moved up to AAA.  2003 would be the last season he would enjoy being called a top prospect (28).  2004 marked the most time he ever spent on the major league roster.  During this time, he launched a 504' homer off of Brett Myers, setting a U.S. Cellular Field record.  It still stands to this day.  When it seemed like he would never figure it all out, he was traded to Seattle for Matt Thornton.  Thornton was another failed prospect at the time.  Seattle would cut Borchard, and he wound up in Florida for a season and a half.  The Braves signed him in 08, but he needed Tommy John and was released.  He is currently with San Francisco, in AAA.  Career line: .205/.284/.352.

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Amen Brother

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain

by phastphil on Feb 4, 2010 5:31 PM CST up reply actions  

woosh

RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010

an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry

by blackoutsox on Feb 4, 2010 5:38 PM CST up reply actions  

yah, way to bring up some old shit

but it doesnt seem like any of the trades have hurt us directly too bad (yet).

i do remember being at that game in 04 when borchard cracked that one. that was my second game since having moved back

Hell Yesss

by Grinder Rule #42 on Feb 4, 2010 6:19 PM CST up reply actions  

LOL.

I swear to Christ that was my thought. LOL.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Feb 4, 2010 7:23 PM CST up reply actions  

no Chris Carter?

Yes.. if a foul ball comes to the dugout, someone will be able to save Harold Baines. That’s great, but I don’t see how that helps us win games. x3 - Grinder In Training

by e-gus on Feb 4, 2010 6:02 PM CST reply actions  

he's not an outfielder

We just need to execute better - Lovie Del Negro

by Illini0509 on Feb 4, 2010 6:22 PM CST up reply actions  

good point

Yes.. if a foul ball comes to the dugout, someone will be able to save Harold Baines. That’s great, but I don’t see how that helps us win games. x3 - Grinder In Training

by e-gus on Feb 4, 2010 9:42 PM CST up reply actions  

I'll never forget you Joe Borchard

I was at that game against the Philies when he hit the 500 foot homer. That and the Glenallen Hill homer at Wrigley are the two most impressive homers I can think of.

Although none of these guys can touch Scott Ruffcorn for prospects who I completely believed the hype about.

by dtv on Feb 4, 2010 6:16 PM CST reply actions  

McKay Christensen

Better be the last time this franchise screws around with Mormons.

by Sox-35th on Feb 5, 2010 8:40 AM CST up reply actions  

vg

We just need to execute better - Lovie Del Negro

by Illini0509 on Feb 5, 2010 8:47 AM CST up reply actions  

So many prospects that fell out...

I wonder when we will start drafting players that won’t fall out.

by sal007 on Feb 4, 2010 6:41 PM CST reply actions  

Thats not exactly easy to do.

Sometimes it works out and sometimes it doesnt. The Sox have changed the way they draft the last couple seasons and we’re starting to see some of the benefits already. I think we’re heading in the right direction.

The Boogeyman cometh

by omnipotent grab on Feb 4, 2010 7:00 PM CST up reply actions  

I agree

wasn’t really considering the last couple drafts when I wrote that. We have been moving in the right direction.

by sal007 on Feb 4, 2010 7:04 PM CST up reply actions  

ya ya ya...

I know beckham, but he’s a once in a while talent that can go so fast in the minors and be good in the majors.

by sal007 on Feb 6, 2010 9:32 PM CST up reply actions  

Our farm has truly sucked for a long time.

And KW has done a great job of getting good value in trades.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Feb 4, 2010 7:25 PM CST reply actions  

Full disclosure

I had a Joe Borchard jersey — Cheat can confirm. Oddly enough, someone actually stole it from me — it’s been gone for a few years now.

by CWSKeith on Feb 4, 2010 7:45 PM CST reply actions  

Nice buzzkill, Keith.

Still pissed off? The glass definitely is half-empty. At least you had Joe wrapped around you for a little while.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Feb 4, 2010 7:47 PM CST up reply actions  

Zuh?

No anger here, WU, except for those guys with the air-horns at the Hawks game last night.

by CWSKeith on Feb 4, 2010 8:57 PM CST up reply actions  

Woe, you just took the first and twelfth steps in recovery...

Im not sure, you’ll have to ask rythm, but I think youre curred…

Good Luck and Keep up the good work Keith

Hell Yesss

by Grinder Rule #42 on Feb 5, 2010 11:23 AM CST up reply actions  

it's rhythm, and there is no recovery without Jesus.

;)

FUCK EVYTHING BACON RULZ WEER GONNA WIN TEH CHAMPSHIOP
...colintj, Nov8, 2009

by rhythm on Feb 5, 2010 11:59 PM CST up reply actions  

So that Twins' signing is now official....

They are going to be pretty much impossible to beat this year.

You wonder if Kenny should just go ahead and start on 2011…….I really like KW but without a doubt he was taken to the shed this off-season.

by stanchar on Feb 4, 2010 10:29 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

congrats.

you win the award for first to declare the 2010 season ova. bravo.

by larry on Feb 4, 2010 10:30 PM CST up reply actions  

Could say the same for you

Still waiting for some decent analysis from you at some point on something……could learn something from colin/cheat.

by stanchar on Feb 5, 2010 7:13 AM CST via mobile up reply actions  

Now that was unnecessary

and inaccurate. How can you learn from colin? ;)

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Feb 5, 2010 7:50 AM CST up reply actions  

getting touchy over a joke about a meme on a message board.

wow. settle it down, stan. i’m certain your life has more important things in it than that.

by larry on Feb 5, 2010 10:10 AM CST up reply actions  

I'm not so certain.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 5, 2010 10:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions  

while doing unmentionables on facebook i noticed

theres not a lot of attractive women who are fans of SSS and for i wasn’t too surprised

Praise Him!!

by Hawk is God on Feb 4, 2010 10:42 PM CST reply actions  

I imagine that's because they know

That creeps like you will be going through their pictures if they join a random sports group…

by Grinder in Training on Feb 5, 2010 8:37 AM CST up reply actions  

meh

enjoyed the read, so props for that, but im just too tired and there was nothing that would excite me for this coming season.

B-

If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA

by BoeJouma on Feb 5, 2010 4:35 AM CST reply actions  

Ahh, BA and JO....makes me feel better about this season.

Remember when Brian Anderson and Jerry Owens were considered major leaguers who can make the major league roster and play major league baseball?

Say what you will about the Crap Taco, it’s not nearly as bad as seeing BA or JO on the opening day roster.

BTW – would you feel better about the Crap Taco if it involved Andruw Jones/Quentin/Dye?

I know JD wants to play defense…but right now he’s going to be playing golf on April 5th.

by 67WMAQ on Feb 5, 2010 6:33 AM CST reply actions  

The Twins are looking mighty good.

hopefully their pitching falls apart…but i am not liking the way this looks. Not that I am declaring the season dead… but this is the worst i’ve felt about our chances since 1999.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 5, 2010 7:41 AM CST reply actions  

You thought 2007 was full of good tidings in ST?

Minny’s SP are average at best. If pitching and defense win ballgames we’ll be in games all year.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Feb 5, 2010 7:52 AM CST up reply actions  

dave cameron says your stoopid.
With Hudson, Hardy, and Thome, the Twins have improved their offense significantly. By retaining Pavano and watching Francisco Liriano return to form in winter ball, their pitching rotation has the chance to be among the best in baseball. Their bullpen is still good, anchored by a relief ace and some quality arms in front of him.

It’s hard to imagine the Twins could have had a better winter. They used this off-season to upgrade the team, and while the roster isn’t perfect, they are clearly the class of the AL Central at this point. Adding Hudson is just the cherry on top of what was already a very good winter.

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/hudson-and-the-twins

by larry on Feb 5, 2010 10:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Vastly overstating their chances for the staff among the best this season

But totally agree they had a fantastic offseason.

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Feb 5, 2010 10:34 AM CST up reply actions  

This.

Especially compared to our “haul” this offseason.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Feb 5, 2010 11:20 AM CST up reply actions  

KW did his offseason shopping last July.

If he got Peavy, Rios, and JJ Putz during the offseason he’d be hailed as a genius.

by 67WMAQ on Feb 5, 2010 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

But if you compare the holes left on the White Sox roster to the holes on the Twins roster

it becomes obvious who has done a better job of preparing their team for 2010

by joewho112 on Feb 5, 2010 1:39 PM CST up reply actions  

srsly? best staff?

Liriano wont make it through the season and their second pitcher is Blackburn

RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010

an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry

by blackoutsox on Feb 5, 2010 3:50 PM CST up reply actions  

but he looks so good against the bums from Mexico and Puerto Rico!

Yes.. if a foul ball comes to the dugout, someone will be able to save Harold Baines. That’s great, but I don’t see how that helps us win games. x3 - Grinder In Training

by e-gus on Feb 5, 2010 5:46 PM CST up reply actions  

I dont think the Twins have enough pitching to "fall apart",

this season could come down to the bullpens. Because by looking at the rosters as is the Sox have a far better rotation while the Twins counter that with a far better lineup.

Jones,Kotsay,Vizquel < Thome

by OznCoop on Feb 5, 2010 8:07 AM CST up reply actions  

Has anyone ever looked into the statistical impact of moving ballparks?

Is there an effect from going from a dome to an open field? Or is this just some deeply manufactured wishful thinking?

by Sox-35th on Feb 5, 2010 8:43 AM CST up reply actions  

Target Field = Progressive Field

The dimensions are practically the same.

by 67WMAQ on Feb 5, 2010 8:56 AM CST up reply actions  

Target Field = Metrodome

Dimensions are basically identical. Less foul ground in the new park. Old park: garbage bags on the walls. New park: garbage in the dugout.

The field will also be heated, interestingly. You wonder if any of the ambient warmth might cancel out some of the cold in the air.

by Sox-35th on Feb 5, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Or in the heart of Teh Twinn.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Feb 5, 2010 11:28 AM CST up reply actions  

That's a cold that no flame can ever thaw

The frost ‘pon the Punto’s soul is ice’d as it is black’d

by Sox-35th on Feb 5, 2010 12:01 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Heated field?

Really. I didn’t realize that. Is this to melt the snow from the early April games?

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Feb 5, 2010 11:29 AM CST up reply actions  

No. Early June.

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Feb 5, 2010 11:30 AM CST up reply actions  

you are really missing out my friend.

Yes.. if a foul ball comes to the dugout, someone will be able to save Harold Baines. That’s great, but I don’t see how that helps us win games. x3 - Grinder In Training

by e-gus on Feb 5, 2010 5:46 PM CST up reply actions  

No, I'm not

That’s why all the minuses.

(Although my two year old has started beat boxing after watching the segments with Biz Markie. I guess that bumps it down to minus 10,000,000).

by Sox-35th on Feb 5, 2010 6:04 PM CST up reply actions  

I feel for ya

My two year old is hooked on yo gabba gabba and dora the explorer too

Confucious say "Baseball wrong. Man with four balls cannot walk."

by fiskfan on Feb 6, 2010 9:17 AM CST up reply actions  

Rec'd

My son’s favorite show. I get “I like bugs” stuck in my head all the time

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Feb 6, 2010 12:29 PM CST up reply actions  

No shit

I didnt know that either… I was also checkin out their schedule and they dont play at home till mid April so it should be 21 degrees outside instead of 18 (fingers crossed)

Hell Yesss

by Grinder Rule #42 on Feb 5, 2010 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

they had garbage in the dugout at the old park too.

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Feb 5, 2010 1:13 PM CST up reply actions  

should be similar to the white sox offense arc

if I have time, I’ll try and do some month splits of terror dome vs the cell to guess differences. or, uh, milwaukee’s stadium. questions:
 1. when did they move ( i know its recent )
 2. current is retractable roof, right? what was the old stadium?

meeting now, will be back for this later. I’m suddenly excited!

by coffeepac on Feb 5, 2010 11:02 AM CST up reply actions  

answer my own questions

switch was for opening day 2001 and County was open air. We’ll assume for our discussion that miller stadium is a dome.

next steps:
  identify mil players that played significant amounts of time in both stadiums
  aggregate numbers on month boundries, check for differences

by coffeepac on Feb 5, 2010 11:49 AM CST up reply actions  

Really?

There is no doubt the pre season favorite is the Twins. So what? In the last 5 years the Sox have probably been the consensus preseason favorite once (2006) and they missed the playoffs that year. Its really just is the Twins and the White Sox and at least the Sox’s biggest strength is one which can actually overcome other weaknesses. Battling one team bodes way better.

In season deals CAN happen. Its great for us to project off current rosters but they rarely remain that way. I really don’t get feeling the worst since 1999. That’s just being a drama queen.

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Feb 5, 2010 9:10 AM CST up reply actions  

'99 wasn't that bad

Young Magglio, young PK, young CLee, decent Chris Singleton, Frank….

You pair the 1999 offense with this year’s pitching staff, and you’ve got yourself a team.

by 67WMAQ on Feb 5, 2010 9:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Is our pitching THAT good?

I like it too. But my general feeling is that we’re overrating it some. Maybe that’s natural to do when it appears to be your best asset(s), I don’t know. If I knew for certain that Floyd and Danks would take that next step up, then my level of enthusiasm might match what I think I’m experiencing here.

by dantesox on Feb 5, 2010 10:27 AM CST up reply actions  

Agreed

But I’d like to see them take that next step up anyway. SuperBHB and MegaDanks would be pretty awesome.

White Sox fan; Jeppson's Malort man

by KarkoviceIsHawt on Feb 5, 2010 3:56 PM CST up reply actions  

Good enough for what?

To overcompensate? Sure. Of course that doesn’t mean the Twins can’t do other things to further improve but you could very well see a staff with 5 above avg starters. So yeah a Top 3 staff has to be considered as such.

"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer

by Tdogg on Feb 5, 2010 10:32 AM CST up reply actions  

I guess with the Twins lineup improvements

I feel like there will have to be some major overcompensation goin’ on. That plus our own lineup doing better than expected. I think Floyd and Danks are going to have to give us the same or more innings and keep their ERA’s below 3.7 or so.

by dantesox on Feb 5, 2010 10:37 AM CST up reply actions  

2007

Until the White Sox add another bat, the Twins are the favorites to win this division.

BUT

Lets go back to 2007. They had Mauer, Morneau, Hunter, Kubel, Cuddyer, Luis Castillo, AND Johan Santana….and won 79 games. I would say that team, on paper, was is just as good or even better than the 2010 version.

by 67WMAQ on Feb 5, 2010 10:48 AM CST up reply actions  

much better offense now and better rotation overall (on paper).

by larry on Feb 5, 2010 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

.

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Feb 5, 2010 10:01 AM CST up reply actions  

Thanks for posting this U-God

I feel much better now seeing we haven’t given away much at all

The Cubs are not a baseball team. They are a baseball-themed marketing company that hosts frat parties for post grads and tourists.

by justjc on Feb 5, 2010 9:29 AM CST reply actions  

That's one way to look at it..

I wouldn’t think it’s all that positive though.

When you don’t pay over slot, rarely have a high draft pick, don’t pay for international prospects (often) or you have people skimming money to sign non-prospects, you aren’t going to have much to give away. I can say I’ve never lost billions of dollars like Bernie Madoff, but the thing is, I never had a billion dollars to lose, so who cares?

I’d rather be in a situation where we had a bunch of talent come through our system, gave some away, and kept some, instead of a situation where we basically had none. I guess it says something for KW that he was able to get something for these guys.

by Grinder in Training on Feb 5, 2010 10:07 AM CST up reply actions  

do you consider freddy garcia, javier vazquez and matt thornton to have been or be good players for the white sox? because that’s for whom some of these guys were traded. one reason that i find this sort of analysis to be a bit unhelpful is because it’s important to remember how these guys were viewed at the time of the trades in question. the whining that accompanied some of these trades certainly belies the notion that these players weren’t “much to give away.” i’m sure it’s not a newsflash but it bears repeating that a shitload of prospects don’t pan out.

by larry on Feb 5, 2010 10:14 AM CST up reply actions  

I do consider them to be good

Which is exactly why I said: “I guess it says something for KW that he was able to get something for these guys.”

by Grinder in Training on Feb 5, 2010 10:33 AM CST up reply actions  

I stand by both points

Our farm system was awful. Yes, a large % of prospects fail, but that doesn’t mean we didn’t have more fail than most. Overall our system did not developed many major league position players the last 10 years.

I also believe KW did a good job of getting the most he could for the prospects we did have outside of Anderson. Sold high on Reed & Young, Borchard for Thonton obviously a good move, and Owens was never good, so that doesn’t matter. Anderson was the only one that didn’t really work out in the best interests of the Sox.

That doesn’t change the underlying problem though. We had a very poor system in place, had a guy stealing money from the team, and a philosophy that did not lend itself to getting a lot of young talent into the system.

His post was about how it was good we didn’t lose any talent. All I was pointing out, is that it’s hard to lose good talent if you don’t have any. If his post was about the good talent we brought in, I’d have spent more then one sentence on it.

by Grinder in Training on Feb 5, 2010 11:15 AM CST up reply actions  

and here i thought my post was just catching up on some old outfielders

"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik

He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST

by U-God on Feb 5, 2010 11:22 AM CST up reply actions  

Did HSA help you with the wordiness?

Nice read, thanks.

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Feb 5, 2010 9:54 AM CST reply actions  

so is cheat going to be fired

and be replaced by a bunch of milquetoasts that won’t let you curse so they can sell ads like what happened at the bears SB site?

by Hatchetm on Feb 5, 2010 12:55 PM CST reply actions  

you mean contributing authors?

no, just a couple. the original guy didn’t post much, but he was pretty critical of the bears. these new guys are all “rah rah” and the posts are like “True Fans Don’t Criticize the Team.”

and now comcast sponsors the site. coincidence?

by Hatchetm on Feb 5, 2010 1:07 PM CST up reply actions  

are the new guys cub fans?

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Feb 5, 2010 1:18 PM CST up reply actions  

Bears, Cubs. Same family.

WSB: Where Free Speech is Spoken.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Feb 5, 2010 1:20 PM CST up reply actions  

i said that same thing and got roasted!

bears=cubs! agreed WU… maybe we’ll go for a beer or 2 and celebrate this next time you venture up to chicago!!

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 5, 2010 6:45 PM CST up reply actions  

Get your ass to the spring meet-up that HSA is surely

(Shirleigh?) organizing as we write.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Feb 5, 2010 7:58 PM CST up reply actions  

WSB: Free Speech, SSS: CHINA! ??

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Feb 6, 2010 12:45 AM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Especially since you and I have been summarily banned

from fantasy baseball. It extends all the way down to lowly e-gus.

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Feb 6, 2010 5:19 PM CST up reply actions  

no, i meant visitors.

advertisers like page hits, right? i just wonder how much more successful traffic-wise this site is than that one was before the switch. don’t fix it if it ain’t broken, right?

he better hope i don't get his aim, bro.

by Toonderstrook on Feb 5, 2010 1:19 PM CST up reply actions  

seems to be a lot more traffic now

but that could be due to all the news related to new coaches, etc.

of course all the new contributors doing a lot of th new comments.

let me just say you don’t want SSS to go in that direction.

by Hatchetm on Feb 5, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

dear god

look at all the contributing authors

"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik

He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST

by U-God on Feb 5, 2010 1:03 PM CST up reply actions  

Maybe billyok should apply there?

"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "

by Chiburb on Feb 5, 2010 1:11 PM CST up reply actions  

I always knew you two...

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Feb 5, 2010 1:36 PM CST up reply actions  

Blog-a-Bull is sponsored by T-Mobile, and the editor is just about the most depressed and self-loathing Bulls fan out there.

I think it’s more due to the fact that people turn into incomprehensible baboons when discussing the Bears.

Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

by Ozzie Montana on Feb 5, 2010 5:39 PM CST up reply actions  

BAB isn't exactly a salon of high rhetoric, either

I just lurk there but there’s only so many “lets trade henrick fo4 kobe and labron” posts that one can stomach.

by Sox-35th on Feb 5, 2010 6:05 PM CST up reply actions  

I enjoy reading the Second City Hockey blog

That’s about it

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Feb 6, 2010 12:32 PM CST up reply actions  

I bet

we look to trade for Adam Dunn by mid-May. That could work out well, actually.

by dantesox on Feb 5, 2010 3:34 PM CST reply actions  

acceptance

This final stage comes with peace and understanding of the death that is approaching. Generally, the person in the fifth stage will want to be left alone. Additionally, feelings and physical pain may be non-existent. This stage has also been described as the end of the dying struggle.

by larry on Feb 5, 2010 3:47 PM CST up reply actions   1 recs

Oh lar, I'm not that beat up.

You should have recognized my resilient nature by now.

by dantesox on Feb 5, 2010 3:58 PM CST up reply actions  

heard your podcast... Travis sounds like a down syndrom baby!

except for a few hiccups with stuttering… good job. “kudos”? only gays give the Twins kudos LOL.

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 5, 2010 10:34 PM CST up reply actions  

Made In The Usa

by the gays!

"I don’t know how you guys measure worth…but I do know you idiots need a graph to show you that Josh Fields sucks…"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Feb 6, 2010 3:10 PM CST up reply actions  

A sad tweet from Jon Morosi

Of Fox Sports

Asked a scout about Jermaine Dye today. His response: “I forgot about him.” Just to clarify: Yes, he’s still available. #MLB

by 67WMAQ on Feb 5, 2010 4:31 PM CST reply actions   1 recs

we should sign him.

he’s better than Kotsay and Jones.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Feb 5, 2010 6:46 PM CST up reply actions  

Agreed.

He may be a righty, but I bet he recovers from last season’s slide, and it doesn’t look like we would have to bet much now. Teahan would have to give back the number though.

The Cubs are not a baseball team. They are a baseball-themed marketing company that hosts frat parties for post grads and tourists.

by justjc on Feb 5, 2010 9:39 PM CST up reply actions  

And the horse's asses are...

(name your favorite posters!).

I couldn’t figure it out yesterday, but it came to me at 4am. Then I understood the FOGhat, laughed so hard I farted, and went back to bed.

by winningugly on Feb 5, 2010 8:00 PM CST up reply actions  

...not me?

I hope.

FUCK EVYTHING BACON RULZ WEER GONNA WIN TEH CHAMPSHIOP
...colintj, Nov8, 2009

by rhythm on Feb 6, 2010 12:09 AM CST up reply actions  

So where are the other posts

Not to come off as unappreciative, but would love to see the other position players and pitching. I still wish we could have held on to Poreda and gotten Peavy.

The Cubs are not a baseball team. They are a baseball-themed marketing company that hosts frat parties for post grads and tourists.

by justjc on Feb 16, 2010 5:23 PM CST via mobile reply actions  

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