Watch Out for De Aza
De Aza certainly isn’t as good as his spring line so far, but he’s a very interesting player. He didn’t play at all in 2008, but he had a decent season in Double-A as a 22-year-old in 2006 and then had an excellent season in Triple-A upon his return in 2009, putting up a 130 wRC+ in 300 PAs. Thanks to this minor league performance, De Aza is projected to be a near average hitter this season. He has a good defensive reputation and is extremely fast. As such, De Aza is probably a +5 or better defender in the corners and near average as a CF, and that’s a conservative estimate.
With that offensive and defensive profile, De Aza projects as a roughly average player for next year. This kind of player certainly doesn’t grow on trees, and the fact that they were able to steal him for the Florida Marlins is surprising. CHONE projects De Aza for 1.2 wins in only 325 PAs, or 2.2 wins in a full season of work.
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Alejandro... he exists!
Thanks.
"April showers bring May flowers and May flowers bring mathematical elimination day to Kansas City".--- Joe Pos
fangraphs, it exists.
If Chone (Figgins) projects DeAnza to be worth 2.2 wins over a whole season, and Juan Pierre projects to be1.6 WAR, what am I missing here? In a rhetorical sense, why the hell is Juan Pierre on the club?
If DeAnza, he fast. And Pierre, he fast with crappy defense. I like them stolen bases. Why we have both?
Get me a masher!
FUCK EVYTHING BACON RULZ WEER GONNA WIN TEH CHAMPSHIOP
...colintj, Nov8, 2009
haha, i checked pierre's projection too before reading this
pretty lame
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Mar 18, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
I just hope KW knows something I don't
and this all becomes moot when the Sox win the division.
Otherwise…I will continue to root for them, but be spiteful of what I think are poor transactions. That’ll show them!
FUCK EVYTHING BACON RULZ WEER GONNA WIN TEH CHAMPSHIOP
...colintj, Nov8, 2009
i know he knows something about brandon mccarthy's girlfriend
and joe cowley’s wife
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Mar 18, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Well then, there's TWO things that I don't know!
All is forgotten, KW, all is forgotten. ;)
FUCK EVYTHING BACON RULZ WEER GONNA WIN TEH CHAMPSHIOP
...colintj, Nov8, 2009
Well for one
A projection is well a projection. I get your point but teams don’t exactly operate on Chone projections….
"Have fun with those stats buddy"
"I still don’t see where what I said in my comments isn’t true. But hey a man gotta have his stats."
by Dils
Is it really a stretch to say that De Aza wouldn't be able to match the .290/.330/.350 line that Pierre is going to put up this year?
Even if you don’t buy him being able to match Pierre’s numbers, he’s likely better base runner and fielder than Pierre.
So far in his career.
Yes. I’m not saying he can’t. I was just answering his point as it relates to how most teams operate. I like the kid and would love for him to make the team but its way too early to be calling him Pierre’s equal, even at his advanced age.
"Have fun with those stats buddy"
"I still don’t see where what I said in my comments isn’t true. But hey a man gotta have his stats."
by Dils
Correct me if I am wrong (don't have a BP subscription)
but isn’t Pierre a plus base runner? I know he has lost a step or two, but as long as he isn’t getting caught stealing a ton I thought he was still valuable on the base paths even if not racking up the SB.
not sure about overall baserunning
but his stolen base success rate for his career is about 75%, or right at break-even. 77% over the last 3 years, but only 71% last year. given his age and the permanent green light ozzie will undoubtedly give him, i’d guess pierre comes up on the wrong side of 75% this year.
He has been
though Ryno is probably correct to worry about this year. His Eqbrr scores from the past few year (2006 4.7), (2007 12.1), (2008 2.1) and (2009 .3)
Its a cumulative stat however, so Pierre could accumulate enough good baserunning to overcome a slip in stolen bases.
"Have fun with those stats buddy"
"I still don’t see where what I said in my comments isn’t true. But hey a man gotta have his stats."
by Dils
Again
One man’s crap is another’s gold. Its not like his career .590 OPS screamed “oh we sure as hell can’t let him go!”
"Have fun with those stats buddy"
"I still don’t see where what I said in my comments isn’t true. But hey a man gotta have his stats."
by Dils
For us it sure did!
see, Anderson, Brian and Owens, Jerry as examples.
;)
FUCK EVYTHING BACON RULZ WEER GONNA WIN TEH CHAMPSHIOP
...colintj, Nov8, 2009
Reading this
It made it sound as if there is a competition going on for the 5th outfield spot. I had assumed Mark Kotsay was a given there. Does De Aza actually have a chance to make the team?
by Grinder in Training on Mar 18, 2010 9:55 AM CDT reply actions
q gets hurt game one
so deaza will not “make” the team in the traditional sense.
by Hatchetm on Mar 18, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
you should be strung up by your balls for mentioning q and hurt
by Shakey on Mar 18, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
there aren't enough trees in the world to string all of us up.
by Hatchetm on Mar 18, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
see i don't get this....
“all of us refers to all the people who expect him to get hurt.” ie millions and millions. that’s the joke. extreme exaggeration.
where do you get “how many balls do you have?”
that’s not even proper joke construction.
You sound like an OPOS.
Remember Steve Martin? My parents thought his jokes made no sense, and I fell off the chair laughing at “Excuuuuuuse meeeeeeeeeeee!”.
Every generation is different. Go with the flow.
He's a cunning Jew. by Ozzie Montana on Mar 13, 2010 3:30 PM EST
I don't see why not.
They don’t need 12 pitchers, and, the way I see it, there’s a 25th spot open. He seems like a good 25th man….fast, good defensively, “in his prime.” I see him coming north.
Nix is on the team.
Santos….as a 12th pitcher? That’s ok if they really want to keep him, but then they should seriously consider discarding Williams. It may all be moot….I think Jenks is gonna finally crash and burn this year.
They should also seriously consider discarding their thumping lefty DH...
I jest. I jest. And don’t call me Shirley.
Jenks has had horrible spring trainings now pretty consistently
Then he comes out doing just fine. He’s declined, but he is still one of the most steady closers out there. As an example, the Pirates are turning to our old friend Octavio Dotel.
"Quantify my balls."
- KenWo
Chicago White Sox
Signed: RHP Orber Moreno
Outrighted to Triple-A, removed from 40-man: RHP Brandon Hynick
Moreno cracked a couple of our Top 100 Prospects lists back when he appeared to be the Royals’ closer of the future. But his capsule in our ’01 Prospect Handbook seems ominous in retrospect: “The Royals might not have had to turn to Ricky Bottalico and Jerry Spradlin as closers if Moreno hadn’t been hurt.” Moreno missed all of the ’00 season and never would get a chance to pitch for the Royals from that point forward. He saw any amount of big league time only once, with the Mets in ’04, when he appeared in 33 games, struck out 7.5 per nine innings and didn’t allow a home run. He pitched in 14 games for Triple-A Memphis in ’06 and in 34 games in the Mexican League last season, but that’s the whole of his pro experience in the past five years. Well, that’s not entirely true. Moreno, 32, has pitched for his local Caracas club in the Venezuelan League in each of the past four winters, pitching very well each time.
though his conclusion may be right
he stumbled upon it accidently.
The "beating" he took on Flowers
is amusing. :-)
"Have fun with those stats buddy"
"I still don’t see where what I said in my comments isn’t true. But hey a man gotta have his stats."
by Dils
they generally do not do a great job when attempting these in-depth articles.
both of the ones linked so far leave something to be desired. i suppose that’s what happens when you’re probably not getting paid a lot and simply aren’t going to spend the time required to do a great job. of course, it wouldn’t hurt to ask people who have a bit better understanding of the topic being written about for some assistance. for example, he originally had ely still on the team in his article.
god I can't stand Dave Cameron
Perfect example of the myopic spreadsheet cruncher. He can string coherent sentences together, but his analysis often leaves me shaking my head.
I have no idea in what world the Indians or Tigers or Padres would be ranked above the Sox, just three teams I pulled out of my ass that I saw will be ranked ahead of the Sox.
they obviously value payroll flexibility and farm systems
neither of which the white sox are very well-rated in.
and, as cameron points out right at the start, lists are silly. don’t get worked up over them.
yea, fair enough, something about Cameron just rubs me the wrong way
I was reading USS Mariner back 6 years ago when it first started, never thought he’d make it this far, but he is very prolific writer.
the padres aren't
but the other two will be
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
who to believe?
RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010
an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry
seeing as the padres already appeared on the list
i’d bet on me
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
i think this is an example of
folks getting angry at writers for no reason.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
"the dependable Mark Buehrle"
9 straight years easily over 200 IP and only 1 season below a 119 era+, poor choice of adjectives there IMO. Dependable is a John Garland, MB actually has the added bonus of being very good, while also dependable.
eh just realized MB had two seasons under 119 era+ and one year he "barely" made it over 200 innings
Just goes to show most of these articles would need an very large time sync to do properely, like Larry said, probably not going to happen when you’re asked to do 10 of them by next tuesday and you’re getting paid a couple hundred bucks.
also, I'd argue they have tried to trade Bobby, it's that everone else sees the same thing the fans the Sox do
he’s getting by with a lot of smoke and mirrors, and while still a pretty good closer, could fall off a cliff at any time and it would surprise nobody.
Like what I see
I hope the De Aza makes the team. He certainly seems to have the tools to play everyday in the Major Leagues, but even if he is used off the bench, he will provide a left handed bat. From what I have seen this spring, the Sox are playing Kotsay at 1st. IMHO, the decision is clear, De Aza makes the team.
I just don't see how...
12 pitchers
8 starters not including crap taco
kotsay
jones
vizquel
castro
and either lillibridge or nix.
There’s your 25 man. We’ll probably see him during the season, but barring injury to someone above, it’s hard to see him making the team…even though he probably deserves it at this point.
by paul_ on Mar 18, 2010 12:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
in time
Even in 05 they began and stayed with 12 pitchers for awhile.
"Have fun with those stats buddy"
"I still don’t see where what I said in my comments isn’t true. But hey a man gotta have his stats."
by Dils
How about the Sox picking up Casey Fien and seeing what Coop's magic can do?
"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe
this line in the comments:
The problem is that if De Aza makes the team, then he is probably taking Nix’s spot on the roster leaving the Sox with only Vizquel to backup 2b, SS and 3B.
aaaaaand the problem with that is? de aza, please.
If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA
what if beckham and ramirez are both killed during a game?
then you’ll be sorry.
by larry on Mar 18, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
you are confusing the White Sox with the Blackhawks
"Have fun with those stats buddy"
"I still don’t see where what I said in my comments isn’t true. But hey a man gotta have his stats."
by Dils
by Tdogg on Mar 18, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
ugh. what an ugly game.
seabrook looking KTFO, crawford leaving the net for no damn reason, sopel getting posterized right before the go-ahead.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Mar 18, 2010 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions
ha!
http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=521875
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Mar 18, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
My doomsday replacement player is Dominican.
And was signed for a bag of chips.
i don't fuck corned beef.
which is why i don’t eat at subway. by larry on Mar 17
by South Side Expat on Mar 18, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
BCB might be in a frenzy atm
http://sports.espn.go.com/chicago/mlb/news/story?id=5006316
Might put a Toyota sign over the left field bleachers! The humanity!
I think it should be a Sears sign...
Then the bleacher denizens could be called Sears Suckers.
"April showers bring May flowers and May flowers bring mathematical elimination day to Kansas City".--- Joe Pos
by Chiburb on Mar 18, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
As long as there's a Midas sign next to it...
"April showers bring May flowers and May flowers bring mathematical elimination day to Kansas City".--- Joe Pos
experts in sign placement, they are...
His name is Rios and he dances on the sand
by Nordhagen on Mar 18, 2010 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
This will help...
…Whenever one of my idiot Cubs fan friends tried to argue about how much the Cell sucks versus Wrigley – “But We don’t have ads everywhere! It’s pure!”
i don't fuck corned beef.
which is why i don’t eat at subway. by larry on Mar 17
by South Side Expat on Mar 18, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Really? Where do you think the term "pure as a beer-swilling, floppy-hatted frat boy" comes from?
by The Actual El Guapo on Mar 18, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
fake boobs and tramp stamps, oh and STDS
" except for the in depth discussion of African-Americans
without like African-Americans. - Tdogg"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 18, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2010/3/17/1377617/yikes-left-field-minitron
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2010/3/18/1379640/more-adversiting-may-be-on-the-way
http://www.bleedcubbieblue.com/2010/3/17/1377236/cubs-proposed-lf-billboard#comments
by Ozzie Montana on Mar 18, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah. The Toyota sign looks bad too.
by The Actual El Guapo on Mar 18, 2010 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 10 recs
that has to be one of the worst photoshops ever
I hope the cubs paid that guy enough to put a dent in their payroll.
by madvillian on Mar 18, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It was a backloaded contract.
Jim Hendry – Genius.
HI I HAVE BEEN DRINKING BEVERAGES
by billyok on Mar 13, 2010 5:22 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
by omnipotent grab on Mar 18, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
They could have the "Runaway Prius" dork ...
throw out the first pitch at the opener.
by Dewey LaMarr Hoyt on Mar 18, 2010 6:01 PM CDT reply actions
17 days, 3 hours, 51 min.
of more waiting.ugh.
2010 WhiteSox Baseball: "even if it works it's still stupid"
you can always hang out at gay bars while you wait.
by Hatchetm on Mar 19, 2010 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Never hurts to learn about the enemy..
And btw, I will reply to your email, I just haven’t got to it yet. I feel it deserves a full response.. not just a “your an idiot.”
by Grinder in Training on Mar 19, 2010 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah..
I’ve never been hit on at a gay bar either, they have straight-dar as my friend likes to joke. I had assumed guys would try to buy me drinks.. bit disappointing.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 19, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I've been into a gay bar, and had guys buy me drinks. Then I say "Thank you, but I have to get back to my friends."
It’s fun to be a woman sometimes.
i don't fuck corned beef.
which is why i don’t eat at subway. by larry on Mar 17
by South Side Expat on Mar 19, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I once won a Wheel of Fortune contest in a gay bar before accidentally walking in on what I first thought was the line to the bathroom before discovering it was a circle jerk
The good news: No line to the bathroom!
signature
by billyok on Mar 19, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
This is a geometrically-relevant question.
Like putting a round plug in a square man’s ass.
by RWShow on Mar 19, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The Ghost of Jose Contreras!!
“As far as Jose goes, he hasn’t gone anywhere,” Ramirez said. "He’s always with me. He’s always present. He’s always someone who is going to be there for me.
2010 WhiteSox Baseball: "even if it works it's still stupid"
From Olney's daily blog on Twin's bullpen, with a comment from JT:
“As far as the bullpen goes, Nathan and Matt Guerrier are the best of friends. Jesse Crain is not too far behind and always together with them. Jose Mijares is quiet and does his own thing. I can’t quite get a read on Clay Condrey. In years past it was this way as well. We like to run and lift together and do things as a group and I’m pretty sure this doesn’t happen with other teams. Jim Thome was commenting the other day to Kevin Slowey that this was probably the nicest atmosphere and bunch of guys he has been around, it was cool to hear coming from him.”
Say it ain’t so, Masher!
i also like the onion's use of planets in a parody of the scopes trial
Scopes Defended By Super-Intelligent Chimpanzee-Man from Future
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Mar 19, 2010 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions
blog in the Strib even uses term "mashed taters"
A cloying and cutesy blog, at that. Apparently written by a human bobblehead with an exclamation point in her name.
His name is Rios and he dances on the sand
FJT.
I TOLD YOU. A Caucasiod OrCa – mercenary. FJT. No rings.
He's a cunning Jew. by Ozzie Montana on Mar 13, 2010 3:30 PM EST
apparently, the nats
are considering to extend adam dunn?
another motive the author doesn’t consider is perhaps management is saying that to the press in hopes of increasing dunn’s trade valude this season. although trading for dunn is more realistic than say AG, i don’t think kdub will actively pursue until dh by committee stinks it up.
i’m with ozncoop, i can’t wait for this season to begin..more joe cowley drama in the clubhouse please
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Mar 19, 2010 8:40 AM CDT reply actions
that whole time you were talking just now, i was thinkin about somethin else
titties
If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA
by BoeJouma on Mar 19, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I read that as titles, first....
God, I need to go to a strip club before the season starts….
Pre-SSS outing outing?
Just a Rip-off of the Actual El Guapo, but a fake not funny one.
by DrEmilioLizardo on Mar 19, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
My morning Ozzie:
OzzieGuillen Back to work loved is hard very hard but loved
less than a minute ago via txt
His name is Rios and he dances on the sand
Must ... resist ... urge ... can't do it ... THAT'S ... nooo ... WHAT .... stop this stop this must stop ... SHE ...
by The Actual El Guapo on Mar 19, 2010 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
SAID.
That’swhatshesaidthat’swhatshesaidthat’swhatshesaid.
I feel much better now.
by The Actual El Guapo on Mar 19, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Ive been dead on all my upsets!
RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010
an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry
So when do we get DeAza-ed in the Aza?
That is the one burning quesion I need to have answered.
He's a cunning Jew. by Ozzie Montana on Mar 13, 2010 3:30 PM EST
no- we get Andersoned in the Aza...
Just a Rip-off of the Actual El Guapo, but a fake not funny one.
by DrEmilioLizardo on Mar 19, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions
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