Community Projection: Freddy Garcia
by The Cheat on Mar 2, 2010 3:05 PM CST
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Community Projection #2, Freddy Garcia.
You fill out the form after the jump. I take a few days to let a spreadsheet populate, and, eventually, crunch some numbers.
| Year | Age | W | L | ERA | G | GS | IP | H | R | ER | HR | BB | SO | WHIP |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| 2006 | 31 | 17 | 9 | 4.53 | 33 | 33 | 216.1 | 228 | 116 | 109 | 32 | 48 | 135 | 1.276 |
| 2007 | 32 | 1 | 5 | 5.90 | 11 | 11 | 58.0 | 74 | 39 | 38 | 12 | 19 | 50 | 1.603 |
| 2008 | 33 | 1 | 1 | 4.20 | 3 | 3 | 15.0 | 11 | 8 | 7 | 3 | 6 | 12 | 1.133 |
| 2009 | 34 | 3 | 4 | 4.34 | 9 | 9 | 56.0 | 56 | 27 | 27 | 4 | 12 | 37 | 1.214 |
| 11 Seasons | 121 | 81 | 4.08 | 275 | 274 | 1772.2 | 1725 | 849 | 804 | 210 | 566 | 1301 | 1.292 | |
| 162 Game Avg. | 15 | 10 | 4.08 | 34 | 34 | 220 | 214 | 105 | 100 | 26 | 70 | 161 | 1.292 | |
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Yep, I didn't even notice. Oops.
If it matters, I had him at 140 ip, 23 gs, a 4.40 ERA, and the rest I can’t remember.
I noticed after as well.
Otherwise, I wouldn’t have entered it. If we have to do it again though, eh. Didn’t take long.
127 IP, 25 GS, 30 HRs, 120 Ks, 35 BBs, 4.38 ERA
In Seattle, a resigned sigh escapes the lips of a foul-mouthed angel. ~wu
by homesickalien on Mar 2, 2010 3:47 PM CST up reply actions
I should have scrolled down...
23 starts, 24 games pitched, 4.10 ERA. Not sure about the rest.. Was a bit optimistic for him to go near career averages outside of K’s.
by Grinder in Training on Mar 2, 2010 3:51 PM CST up reply actions
Yeah, I went optimistic for Freddy because he's got H-E-A-R-T. Pierre...I wasn't as generous with his.
In Seattle, a resigned sigh escapes the lips of a foul-mouthed angel. ~wu
by homesickalien on Mar 2, 2010 3:56 PM CST up reply actions
So!
In Seattle, a resigned sigh escapes the lips of a foul-mouthed angel. ~wu
by homesickalien on Mar 3, 2010 9:36 AM CST up reply actions
Rusty.
Use it or lose it, CM.
I just don’t feel like killing anyone else for as long as I can help it.
i am optimistic on freddy as an innings eater
i had him down for 27gp, 24, gs, 150IP, 101ks, 50bb, 132 hits and a 4.67 era. I admit I am being optimistic on his ability to stay healthy.
and as you can see
I expect him to have zero stuff, just getting by on location and guile at this point. Really wouldn’t be surprised to see him fall out of the rotation with a 5+ era even if he’s healthy.
I don't think anybody would be surprised by that.
The only thing that would truly surprise me from Freddy is over 30 starts.
Location and Perspiration,
the keys to Sweaty Freddy’s ’10 success.
2010 WhiteSox Baseball: "even if it works it's still stupid"
Nice outing for Hudson
Cabrera facepalms.
unless his fastball is back up in speed
I don’t give a damn about him right now.
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
by Tdogg on Mar 2, 2010 4:26 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Nobody here, I presume.
Considering they’re sympathetic toward SoxNet.
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The creativity is lacking in my opinion.
Location NotSaneLand
2010 WhiteSox Baseball: "even if it works it's still stupid"
That shit's not even remotely funny, imo.
In Seattle, a resigned sigh escapes the lips of a foul-mouthed angel. ~wu
by homesickalien on Mar 2, 2010 5:45 PM CST up reply actions
Somewhat heated argument between Boers and Bernstein over Beckham.
Terry thinks Beckham can and will be just as good as Pedroia, and at one point said he thinks Beckham could be a Hall of Famer.
I think he can be better than Pedroia and as for the hof, we will see
RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010
an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry
i think that's a solid comp given what we know
Beckham got to the league one year earlier, Pedroia’s defense may be better though.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
pedroia isn't that great.
not exactly a ridiculous bar to clear. .375 OBP and .450 SLG is certainly attainable for beckham. he already has more power than pedroia, methinks. maybe pedroia is a better defender. it’s not like he’s being compared to chase utley.
what he said
utley is the comp I like, Beckham’s floor seems like pedroi, his cieling seems like a healthier utley.
wait wait wait a second, if beck's floor is like pedroia and his ceiling is like a healthy utley
then kdub is an idiot for not trading him for adrian gonzalez already
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Mar 3, 2010 1:55 AM CST up reply actions
the year Pedroia won the MVP was a very down year for the AL Sluggers.
2010 WhiteSox Baseball: "even if it works it's still stupid"
Terry also said he wouldn't trade him for Pujols,
WTF Terry!
2010 WhiteSox Baseball: "even if it works it's still stupid"
I do appriciate his Bacon-love,
its about the only love the Sox ever get on that show
2010 WhiteSox Baseball: "even if it works it's still stupid"
Bernstein is a lot harder on the Sox than he is on the Cubs.
I presume it comes from growing up a pessimistic Sox fan, but it could be because he’s a bastard.
I attribute it to his lack of a sex life.
2010 WhiteSox Baseball: "even if it works it's still stupid"
This
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 2, 2010 11:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
20 games played 17 started 4.2 era 70ks 30 bbs 25 hrs 120 innings pitched
RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010
an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry
rest at ease, he learns from the best
RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010
an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry
Freddy starts the season as servicable.
He slowly tapers off and attempts to derail a run at the division, then is replaced by Hudson in the rotation who shines as a 5th starter.
When do you predict this tapering off?
Id say mid-June.
2010 WhiteSox Baseball: "even if it works it's still stupid"
On the DL May 15.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Mar 2, 2010 5:59 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
I have nothing significant to add to this.
But I think even this is optimistic.
Then again, I detest the mother fucker for his antics after a player commits an error behind him. It’s not like they weren’t trying, and it’s not like they show him up after he gives up a long one.
Phuck Phreddy.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Mar 2, 2010 5:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
This is one long-assed grudge
Going back to April 16, 2006.
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If that's the Iguchi play it was only the first that year.
He threw his hands up in disgust at a play in CF later, probably in June.
I know we ALL did that then, but who the he’ll was Mr. HR to do it?
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Mar 2, 2010 6:54 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
And yes, he made quite an impression on me.
This is probably my 10th rant about his attitude in the 5 years I’ve been here.
Whatever.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Mar 2, 2010 6:58 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No, I was admiring it.
I haven’t heard anybody else speak up about it. I remember ’em well, but Game 4 of the World Series goes a long way in my book, for better or for worse.
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Agree totally w/Game 4.
My problem comes with the aftermath and his forgetting the “team” that was also responsible for his ring.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Mar 2, 2010 7:32 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
However
Freddy will be the one chosen for the post season rotation…. and be brought in with bases loaded and nobody out… and proceed to get 2 popups and a strikeout… what a magical performance it will be.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Mar 2, 2010 6:49 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
No, I think you are forgeting the un-retirement of El-Duque.
2010 WhiteSox Baseball: "even if it works it's still stupid"
ooh, that's my favorite part too.
In Seattle, a resigned sigh escapes the lips of a foul-mouthed angel. ~wu
by homesickalien on Mar 2, 2010 10:12 PM CST up reply actions
ive been looking for a link to this inning for a while now
If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA
i will never forget that shit
one of the lowest points of my life, dead end job after college and 20k in dept, making peanuts, depressed as shit, winter coming in n. michigan already…living at the folks’ home….
i had gotten into a huge fight with my pops earlier that day, like epic 22 year old post college moron vs a guy who actually got it…just young and dumb on my part…anyways afterwards he drove back downstate for a tough work assignment and I went to the bar to watch teh sox in petoskey mi…i walked out after the bases got loaded…it was pouring rain…i sit down in my car, tuned to am 1000 of course, and i hear rooney go AND HE STRIKES OUT THE SIDE….i scream EL DUQUE!!!!!!!1 and start honking the horn wildy. only sox fan within 50 miles easy. pouring ice cold rain, petoskey fucking michigan, downtown. no future except sox baseball.
I’ll never forget sitting there in that shitty car in that shitty town in that shitty weather and thinking how much I loved my dad for bringing baseball into my life, specifically sox baseball.
i might have hated him earlier that day, but damn if that october run didn’t highlight for me alot of things I was missing about life and family.
thanks guys, I’ll pass out drunk now and wait for this to go green.
by madvillian on Mar 2, 2010 11:22 PM CST up reply actions 9 recs
Epic.
In Seattle, a resigned sigh escapes the lips of a foul-mouthed angel. ~wu
by homesickalien on Mar 3, 2010 9:38 AM CST up reply actions
I think one of the keys to the season is making sure Hudson remains the 6th starter until he is needed as the 5th
the whole, we’ve got to turn to the Carlos Torres’ of the world because our next best option “isn’t stretched out” is kinda ridiculous. So I’m kinda rooting for Hudson to remain in the minors to start the season — even though he clearly belongs on the team in some form — and for Freddy to fail swiftly and spectacularly when he eventually does implode (but also be good until that point)
It’s a delicate balance, this wishing and hoping stuff
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From "Delicate Balance" by Tom Dundee
“Expectations we have can lead down that path where the Devil discouragement lives”.
Too lazy to fetch all the lyrics, but most apply here if you’re so inclined to google it.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Mar 2, 2010 7:03 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Another great line from the song:
“To worry does nothing but steals from the loving and robs from the pleasure that’s there”.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Mar 2, 2010 7:07 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Ah fuck it.
Deep within there is a vision
That time is nothing but space,
And between every minute and mile that is in it
Somehow there is a beautiful face.
And its all such a delicate balance
That the sport of infinity gives,
Expectations we have can lead down the path
Where that devil discouragement lives.
I dreamed I was barer than naked
And it scared me so bad that I called,
“Help me back to the prison, with the chains of the living”
Although nothing had hurt me at all.
And its all such a delicate balance
As it turns through the circles of air,
To worry does nothing but steals from the loving
And robs from the pleasure that’s there.
To worry does nothing but steals from the loving
And robs from the pleasure that’s there.
Deep within there is a feeling
That love and understanding’s the door,
And honesty is the key that was given to you and me
To open it and so many more.
And its all such a delicate balance
Takes away just as much as it gives,
To live it is real, to love it is to feel
You’re a part of what everything is.
And its all such a delicate balance
As it turns through the circles of air,
To worry does nothing but steals from the loving
And robs from the pleasure that’s there.
And its all such a delicate balance
Takes away just as much as it gives,
To live it is real, to love it is to feel
You’re a part of what everything is.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Mar 2, 2010 7:08 PM CST via mobile up reply actions 3 recs
hehehehehe
In Seattle, a resigned sigh escapes the lips of a foul-mouthed angel. ~wu
by homesickalien on Mar 2, 2010 10:14 PM CST up reply actions
its clear where hsa gets here genes
RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010
an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry
no daniel cabrera love?
i see him getting maybe half a win this season,considering the way the al central the last 2 years half a win could be huge
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What is this ERA that you speak of?
I only understand FIP, xFIP, and WAR.
by MrBungle on Mar 2, 2010 6:44 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
bwahhahaha! I like this.
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by homesickalien on Mar 2, 2010 10:15 PM CST up reply actions
i think freddy is going to do pretty well.
so far i’ve predicted nice seasons from freddy and pierre. what a whore i am.
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Well someone must be dragging down the Sox.
“I play the season a million times … and the White Sox come away with about a 27 percent chance to make the playoffs and the Cubs 23 percent,” says Clay Davenport, in his first season of running the PECOTA projections for Baseball Prospectus deep inside his secret bunker two miles below the Rockies.
I suppose not having a DH might be part of it. I added the bold part in case you couldn’t tell.
is anyone else having trouble with the 'narrow' and 'wide' views of the site?
it keeps going back to narrow for me everytime i change it back to wide.
Nothing funky on mobile.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Mar 2, 2010 7:10 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Nope, just with narrow and wide views of Andruw Jones.
by South Side Expat on Mar 2, 2010 7:14 PM CST up reply actions
More chins than a Chinese phone book.
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
by Chiburb on Mar 2, 2010 7:17 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
No.
I am having trouble mustering enthusiasm and time to project our retreads’ year-end stats. Pierre and Garcia. Christ Almighty, let’s start the fucking season already.
;)
I just don’t feel like killing anyone else for as long as I can help it.
let's keep the criticism down, okay?
it took a whole lot of german scat porn and comp visits to butt cancer doctors to get the cheat back posting.
by larry on Mar 2, 2010 7:25 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I have no idea why I find that so funny, but I do.
by The Actual El Guapo on Mar 3, 2010 3:36 PM CST up reply actions
yeah
Narrow is defaulting… they’ve got a fix in the pipes, but it’s gonna be fucked for the rest of the night
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Maybe it hates you like everyone else, you nogood noodlearmed alleged lawyer retarded boy-fucking un-rec'ing cat's asshole!
In Seattle, a resigned sigh escapes the lips of a foul-mouthed angel. ~wu
by homesickalien on Mar 2, 2010 10:24 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Sorry in advance for offending any retards or friends and loved ones of retards.
In Seattle, a resigned sigh escapes the lips of a foul-mouthed angel. ~wu
by homesickalien on Mar 2, 2010 10:26 PM CST up reply actions
oh noes!
In Seattle, a resigned sigh escapes the lips of a foul-mouthed angel. ~wu
by homesickalien on Mar 2, 2010 10:28 PM CST up reply actions
You miss my posts and pictures of my cat, don't you.
In Seattle, a resigned sigh escapes the lips of a foul-mouthed angel. ~wu
by homesickalien on Mar 2, 2010 10:31 PM CST up reply actions
OT
if i get the mlb.com at bat app, would i need a subscription to mlb.tv to watch/listen to live games?
If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA
makes sense i guess.
but neither does charging an additional $15 after someone pays $90, ya know?
If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA
and by neither does i mean
it doesnt by.
If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA
ive got faith in you,
you can figure it out!!!
If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA
dont they give you video of a couple games a week on there?
and as long as you have a 1st or 2nd gen i phone you should just jailbreak that sucker.
More OT - South Side Reality show?
Lord help us all.
by South Side Expat on Mar 2, 2010 9:01 PM CST reply actions
That's like asking if they take Diners Club.
by RWShow on Mar 2, 2010 9:42 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
MB jersey canme today!
i think i shit my pants. twice
If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA
There are three players for whom I will admit holding almost entirely irrational opinions.
One is Ivan Calderon, who I believe to be a deity (but, you know … a dead one).
One is Javier Vazquez, who I despise like poison. Buehrle Man is to Nick Swisher as I am to Javy Vazquez.
The third is Freddy Garcia. With apologies to Chiburb, I … uhhh …. don’t despise Freddy Garcia like the opposite of poison. Kenwo is to Ron Kittle as I am to Freddy Garcia. At the risk of being mocked, the guy just seems to win a lot of games for teams that win a lot of games. His top comp. per Baseball Reference is Jack Morris, which seems apt on many levels.
by The Actual El Guapo on Mar 2, 2010 9:32 PM CST reply actions
I love Ivan Calderon.... RIP.
you must really love Freddy Garcia…. thats all good. I am a big fan. Vazquez was ok though.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Actually, it's Matt Morris, not Jack Morris.
Oops. I stand by the Jack Morris comp, tho. Pitched for a number of very good teams, very high winning percentage (higher than peripherals would otherwise indicate), a great deal of post-season success, etc.
by The Actual El Guapo on Mar 2, 2010 10:07 PM CST up reply actions
another comp (both fans of herbs)
His name is Rios and he dances on the sand
by Nordhagen on Mar 2, 2010 10:39 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I liken Vazquez to Bert Blyleven
Everyone who say him play with their eyes says hes just not that good of a pitcher and will cite his win loss record and stuff like that, but I can foresee an argument in 15 years where people will pull out stats like the fact that he averaged 200.1 Ks per season for this whole decade and deserves to be in the hall, especially if he is successful in this second stint as a Yankee.
I agree, he's a pussy
Jav had great stuff and a world of potential, buy there were so many times he was literally one strike away from finishing the 5th or 6th inning, the ump would miss a call, and he’d just fall apart. And that happened consistently. This was very anti-climactic and such a let down.
I was glad to see him go so I wouldn’t have to watch that shit anymore.
by paul_ on Mar 3, 2010 4:43 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
my MB black jersey
arrived today! this shit is awesome.
If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA
awesome.
In Seattle, a resigned sigh escapes the lips of a foul-mouthed angel. ~wu
by homesickalien on Mar 2, 2010 10:56 PM CST up reply actions
one of the lowest points of my life, something something and so on
thanks guys, I’ll pass out drunk now and wait for this to go green.
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by billyok on Mar 2, 2010 11:42 PM CST reply actions 8 recs
Needs more animated turtle vomit?
by South Side Expat on Mar 3, 2010 7:00 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
You will understand this sooner rather than later.
Unless you lurked through the gamethreads after ugly losses.
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by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 3, 2010 10:35 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
no user name for me too
i had 130 IP, 4.72 era, 30 BB…
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Mar 3, 2010 1:51 AM CST reply actions
i'm with billy on this one. this is boring!
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Mar 3, 2010 9:36 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
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Garcia
Man I have a tough time projecting him. It appears that he is healthy. Pair that up with the Sox medical staff and its tough for me to just predict an injury so he has x amount of starts. I mean it really wouldn’t be that surprising for him to take the ball 30 times. Not to mention (all jokes aside) this dude is family to Ozzie. Performance? Almost every projection system puts him in the 4.5 – 4.6 range. A number 5 starter doing that? Who the fuck could complain about that? I’m excited about Hudson but if Sweaty can do that for peanuts why rush him and how much work does he get in relief?
Im going to be an outlier here and predict 180 innings.
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
Good rundown.
One other thing. It may be that he isn’t just pure guile and location this year. If he is healthy maybe he picks up a notch or two in velocity. And, it’s not like he was Jamie Moyer speed. He was 87-89 last year, so, if that happens, I would hesitate to call him a mere junkballer.
i haven't projected him
he’s a huge question mark. rhp with fastballs below 90 need impeccable control and sweet offspeed stuff. freddy COULD do that. i really don’t have a feeling about him though.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
Id like to see him gain a half tick on the FB
but the good news is he did seem to exhibit some of the old pitcher skills last year.
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
BP's team health report for white sox
Almost no one comes back from plantar fasciitis. The one big exception? Pujols. Of course, he’s not human, and Quentin is. The effectiveness of the medical staff at keeping Quentin productive could be the difference between first place and fourth. One new therapy that’s being used is called lithotripsy. Originally developed to help with kidney stones, it consists of pulses of sound being carried into soft tissue to break up the small osseous spurs that cause the inflammation. If you’ve ever stood in front of a speaker at Prive on a Friday night, you still have no idea what this is like. Pujols described his experience as “like being hit on the feet with sticks.” We’ll see if the advanced techniques of sports medicine and a great staff can make Quentin like Pujols in at least one way.
usual plaudits for herm and staff, as well.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=10137
so who hasn't come back from PF?
i had it for a year and was later running 6 miles/day on roads and it was fine. of course it put a nasty hitch in my swing.
Yeah, PF is pretty unpredictable.
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by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 3, 2010 11:46 AM CST up reply actions
Yeah that seems to be unusual statement
Perhaps Im just ignorant.
"You're lucky I'm retired"
Jack Bauer
i'm guessing this tidbit is from
noted orthopedic foot surgeon will carrol
i didn't get it either, because there have been other players who have had PF and "came back"
it may just be poor wording because i can’t think of a whole lot of players who came back and were as good as they were before. of course, most of the players i can think of were older. he has way more info regarding who has had PF than me, though, so i want to hear more.
his replies
McGwire missed a chunk of his career and eventually ended bc of it. The one I remember most clearly is Marty Cordova. I’m not near my database and I dont have the 90s, when it first got diagnosed properly.
Ten years ago, never. Getting possible now.
Didn't Thome have it early in his career?
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by KarkoviceIsHawt on Mar 3, 2010 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
supposedly
but as will alludes to there, i’m not sure i’d trust a diagnosis from then (if that was even the diagnosis). many people like to say now that foot injuries that they had twenty years ago were “probably” PF. who knows. similarly, some doctors started saying any foot issue was PF. which is the genesis of many a discussion on this board about how there are simple solutions to PF like “just stretch it” and that carlos should just man the fuck up already and play because PF “isn’t that bad”.
Sticking it in a big ol' tub of ice for twenty minutes at a time would probably help more than stretching
but I guess pro athletes are just wimps.
You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan
by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 3, 2010 7:06 PM CST up reply actions
Most of the runners I know, myself included, who have had PF
say it goes away for no fucking reason within 6-12 months. Absolutely mystifying.
I just don’t feel like killing anyone else for as long as I can help it.
Well how timely is this:
Chicago Bulls center Joakim Noah will miss three weeks because of plantar fasciitis in his left foot that has been bothering him since mid-January — a blow as his team starts a brutal stretch of games against some of the NBA’s better teams.
I wonder if PF is to foot injuries is like autism is to children’s behavioral issues, a dumping ground for undefined problems.
http://cbs2chicago.com/sports/Bulls.Noah.hurt.2.1534570.html
I just don’t feel like killing anyone else for as long as I can help it.
"man the fuck up"
That sounds like something I would… Hey waitaminute! A real wiseguy eehhh?
"You actually talk about me to your wife??? I love it.!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 3, 2010 10:40 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
needs to stretch that shit out reeeeeal nice...
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 3, 2010 12:50 PM CST up reply actions
What an odd statement for one of the most unpredictable afflictions a person can get.
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Mar 3, 2010 3:01 PM CST up reply actions
MLB At Bat 2010 iPhone app updated and ready for download as of yesterday.
33 days til Opening Day.
I am now officially technologically equipped, strapped down and ready to go.
Fuck the WBC!
In Seattle, a resigned sigh escapes the lips of a foul-mouthed angel. ~wu
welcome.
how long ago did u get the iphone?
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 3, 2010 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
now i don't need to lug my laptop to the shitter when i need to post something real important.
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 3, 2010 12:51 PM CST up reply actions
This is why I never touch anyone else's iPhone
Because apparently they’re all buried in fecal bacteria
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Affirmative.
The iPhone has revolutionized the work poop.
In Seattle, a resigned sigh escapes the lips of a foul-mouthed angel. ~wu
by homesickalien on Mar 3, 2010 1:03 PM CST up reply actions
girls poop?
"You actually talk about me to your wife??? I love it.!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 3, 2010 1:07 PM CST up reply actions
I put it in my pocket before I wipe.
"You actually talk about me to your wife??? I love it.!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 3, 2010 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
Same here. Not for fear of getting shit on it, but for fear of dropping it in the can.
That would certainly ruin my day.
A living nightmare, I imagine. I'd cry and curse the day.
In Seattle, a resigned sigh escapes the lips of a foul-mouthed angel. ~wu
by homesickalien on Mar 3, 2010 1:23 PM CST up reply actions
I dropped my last one on a particularly unforgiving floor. damaged the side, and the volume rocker broke off.
I was pissed, of course, but it was still quite usable.
My iPod Nano going through the washing machine, however…
I'll never forget the day I dropped my first iPhone
It was at the Cell, the day the Sox hit four homers in a row against Kansas City. When I pulled the phone out of my pocket, it slipped out of my hand and flew six feet.
I just dropped mine this past week heading to take another bar exam
Seemed fine, 2 hours later in the car it just went dead. Ended up exiting and found an AT&T store, had to renew my contract to get the bargain price.
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
had a discussion about this the other day,
if dropped, would you reach in and grab it? what might affect your decision? the murkiness of the bowl? clear = go, muddied = no-go? what if it was in direct contact with fecal matter?
Jack M asking the hard-hitting questions! :)
No really, this is a good thing to plan out in advance, and discuss with your loved ones and elderly.
I cannot imagine ever putting my hand into a bowl that has fecal anything in it.
The phone would already be effed, so I’d probably find a tool to fetch it, or just flush with the expectation that the phone would remain in the bowl while the rest flushed, providing me a clean go at retrieval.
What was your own conclusion, Jack?
In Seattle, a resigned sigh escapes the lips of a foul-mouthed angel. ~wu
by homesickalien on Mar 3, 2010 1:54 PM CST up reply actions
somebody's got to!
i reached a similar conclusion. i would think that the in a majority of toilets, the phone would slide down to the bottom and be in contact. i might contact building staff before doing anything to see if they could lend their expertise from past phone-in-shitter events. but yes, regardless of murkiness, i would not reach into a full toilet to try to retrieve it. that hand would never be clean again!
not everyone is so squeamish
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
I hear the plot of Saw VII is nothing but hipsters having to reach into dirty toilets to retrieve their mobile devices
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by billyok on Mar 3, 2010 2:03 PM CST up reply actions 5 recs
Are they murdered by the sudden self-awareness of all the irony?
Taj Gibson is the face of Bulls basketball!
by Trey23 on Jan 5, 2010 6:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
by Ozzie Montana on Mar 3, 2010 3:02 PM CST up reply actions
Nope, worse
When they emerge from the warehouse, they realize they’re no longer in Wicker Park, but Green Bay, and all the bridges are out
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Hey, wait a second.... I'm in Wicker Park.
And I like many of the things you mentioned.
White Sox fan; Jeppson's Malort man
by KarkoviceIsHawt on Mar 3, 2010 4:12 PM CST up reply actions
Actual WP
Although I work in Bucktown
White Sox fan; Jeppson's Malort man
by KarkoviceIsHawt on Mar 3, 2010 4:31 PM CST up reply actions
I would think that the size of a mobile device...
…would prohibit it from going down along with a flush. After that, take it out and wrap it in something, take it someplace and somehow steam it to be sterilized? I’d imagine if the water damage from being submerged didn’t kill it, a steaming wouldn’t either.
I dunno. I just got my first smarty-pants phone like two weeks ago.
Never thought about this shit before I bought it. Thanks.
by South Side Expat on Mar 3, 2010 6:53 PM CST up reply actions
Somewhere in the final quarter of 2009.
In Seattle, a resigned sigh escapes the lips of a foul-mouthed angel. ~wu
by homesickalien on Mar 3, 2010 1:04 PM CST up reply actions
nice!
i just got the ipod adapter for my car. never have to burn another cd again!
"You actually talk about me to your wife??? I love it.!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 3, 2010 1:05 PM CST up reply actions
Calm down e-gus
How much longer am I going to be the center of your universe?
"You actually talk about me to your wife??? I love it.!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 3, 2010 10:45 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Camelback Ranch Question
Do the white Sox sit at 1st base dugout or 3rd base dugout for games not involving Dodgers?
Going to buy tix for Sunday’s white sox – cubs game and want to sit behind sox dugout
The White Sox dugout is on the first base side. Always is.
I’m going to the Dodgers/Sox game on Friday as well as the Cubs/Sox game on Sunday.
"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen
"I'd rather have Rios hit 50 home runs than steal 50 bases. I want to win." - Servant2LordBeckham
by Servant2LordBeckham on Mar 3, 2010 12:28 PM CST up reply actions
I sat on 3B line last year just past 3B
Looking toward the plate was right into the bright AZ sun and I had trouble picking up the ball off the bat. Wasn’t just me, Fields butchered like 5 different seemingly gloveable liners (against Cubs, horrible game).
When I moved under the canopy to the 1B infield seats in the 8th the difference was amazing.
3B line infield under the canopy probably okay though, but I didn’t experience it directly so can’t say.
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game in 2008. Thanks John Danks and Jim Thome.
by NorthSidePaulie on Mar 3, 2010 3:08 PM CST up reply actions
Seating chart
http://camelbackranchbaseball.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/camelbackseating2010.png
"his ballerness could not be stoped which rose his era to 5.42 "
Who the FUCK do you think you are Chiburb?
Arizona and more specifically Camelback Ranch is MY territory!!!
"I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production." - Ozzie Guillen
"I'd rather have Rios hit 50 home runs than steal 50 bases. I want to win." - Servant2LordBeckham
by Servant2LordBeckham on Mar 3, 2010 12:34 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for first cuss word.
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 3, 2010 12:48 PM CST up reply actions
projections are tom foolery
predictions is where it’s at.
"You two need to get a room filled with condoms and calculators!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 3, 2010 12:47 PM CST reply actions 1 recs
what?
have you had enough of soxnet.net’s, false hustle, adrian gonzalez trade rumors?
"You actually talk about me to your wife??? I love it.!"
by Where Triples Go to Die on Mar 3, 2010 1:08 PM CST up reply actions
does anyone know how they are going to do the last names on their jerseys?
J. Danks and Danks? Joh. Danks, Jor. Danks?
bird law in this country is not ruled by reason
by soxshenanigans on Mar 3, 2010 3:21 PM CST up reply actions
numbers help
RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010
an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry
i get that,
but didn’t the laroche brothers have Ad. LaRoche and An. LaRoche when they were together on the pirates. I thought they wanted to avoid having the same exact name on the backs of jerseys.
bird law in this country is not ruled by reason
by soxshenanigans on Mar 3, 2010 3:43 PM CST up reply actions
go with J. Danks for jordy then and leave johns alone because many people already have one
but that may not be for a while
RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010
an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry
I hope that they actually just give the younger a jersey with "Jordy" on the back.
White Sox fan; Jeppson's Malort man
by KarkoviceIsHawt on Mar 3, 2010 8:00 PM CST up reply actions
that would be sweet too
RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010
an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry
That would be stupid.
Like a fucking Mouseketeer.
I just don’t feel like killing anyone else for as long as I can help it.
just do it like the Giles brothers did in San Diego
as in, if you can’t tell a lefty-throwing pitcher and a righty-throwing outfielder apart it’s your fault.
You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan
by Daniel Berlyn on Mar 3, 2010 7:08 PM CST up reply actions
you can't argue with that.
you are certainly one of the more ridiculous people on this board. ~ larry
Did somebody hack larry's account?
The last few animals he’s posted have been alive ones.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
if you dont let'em develope, you dont have to deal with pubes.
If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA
i've internalized society's norms on that point.
though i hear child molestation is a satisfying hobby.
like i say, and im sure you know, and yeah, im referring to you,
if they’re old enough to crawl, theyre in the right position.
If the woman is offering an opinion, you are doing it wrong. - HSA
I imagine by the end of the season, we'll all have Ozzie tweets as sigs, a la 'cip.
In Seattle, a resigned sigh escapes the lips of a foul-mouthed angel. ~wu
by homesickalien on Mar 3, 2010 2:12 PM CST up reply actions
I like this goal
RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010
an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry
I can't see ever letting go of POOTY GO
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
GOO
I miss Thome.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Mar 3, 2010 4:24 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
heheh. I felt that way about depressed fucked-cake eating. But signatures....they can always come back at a later time...
In Seattle, a resigned sigh escapes the lips of a foul-mouthed angel. ~wu
by homesickalien on Mar 3, 2010 4:31 PM CST up reply actions
BP on Masset
10. Nick Masset (3.32, 1.92)
White Sox fans, look away. Masset was part of the deal that sent Griffey, Jr. to the South Side, and has emerged as a very valuable reliever. He complements a mid-90s fastball with a curveball and cutter that is capable of generating ground balls. He benefited from a fluky-low BABIP and high LOB percentage last year, but his peripherals and stuff suggest he will be above average for several years.
by Off the bus running on Mar 3, 2010 2:30 PM CST reply actions
masset theory is a living thing, always changing and improving.
i don’t see anything that disproves. there is still always masset in your system.
only mid 90's fastball?
i heard it was 100+. anyway, i don’t believe in massett.
you are certainly one of the more ridiculous people on this board. ~ larry
Lou Gehrig did not die of Lou Gehrig's disease.
Oh wait … yes he did.
Disregard.
by The Actual El Guapo on Mar 3, 2010 3:10 PM CST up reply actions
interesting article on the leadoff position
starring luke appling, luis aparicio and bill james.
http://www.hardballtimes.com/main/article/philosophy-of-batting-leadoff/
interesting article indeed, especially the graph of leadoff men OBP vs MLB OBP
I grew up in baseball culture through college, and one thing that stuck with me is even in the late 90’s and early 00’s when I played the idea of a speedy leadoff hitter as the only type worth putting there was still completely ingrained in every manager I ever played for. High school, summe