Recap: Twins, Jones, Kotsay Strenuously Object To Stereotyping
The game was close throughout after Buehrle managed to get himself back on track following a rough first three. The Sox kept it close enough with both strange and familiar contributions, including a solo shot from Mark No Seriously Kotsay. The Savior did the same and an early Konerko 2 run blast meant the game was tied heading into the 8th. Buehrle set down Hudson, Mauer and Morneau: ground out, ground out, line out.
The bottom of the eighth showed again what the Sox can do with real hitters hitting 2-5, if only for a half. A predictable Pierre ground out preceded a less anticipated Beckham weak roller, but Quentin and Konerko followed with singles. Gardenhire gave Blackburn the hook after 7 2/3 IP and 98 pitches. Can you somehow be economic and give up 3 bombs a game? Evidently. Gardy went to the lefty Jose Mijares and Ozzie called on Andruw Jones to regain the platoon advantage.* Jones, continuing the Real DH impression, singled and everything looked sewn up until J.J. Hardy singled off Bobby Jenks to bring up Jim Thome** with a chance to tie or win with two outs.
Bobby was throwing gas and nothing but. All four pitches came in at 96 mph. The Masher tipped the first, took the second high, swung through the third and sent the fourth flying to the opposite field wall. It looked like he guessed away and Bobby put it right there for the ol' slugger. But he wasn't clutch enough to stop Hardy from trying to score from first. Juan Pierre and his Designated Thrower Mark Teahen set up a solid relay to easily get Hardy. 5-4 game over, crisis averted and series salvaged. A coin flip of a win goes to the Sox and it's off to Toronto. But not before laughing at the ever professional grindaholic Twins for their costly vision and base rounding problems.
- Apparently if you call out Mark Kotsay in a game recap, he'll hit a home run the next day. Same with Gordon Beckham, but I'm less worried about him failing to hit more HR than '09 Pods. Yeah, that's me calling out Mark Kotsay in a game recap twice in two games. Maybe it seems harsh, but it's days like this that make the lack of DH so evident.
- I watched this first through gameday/radio and then went back and watched some clips. Looking at Buehrle's location, it didn't look that rough. Mauer got to him, but that's just what he does sometimes. Aside from that the walk to Harris was pretty bad, but the one to Young was the end of a long at bat featuring a surprisingly good take from Young. Just flipping through, here's what looked like the worst pitch I saw Buehrle throw. This is Denard Span's AB from the 3rd inning:
- The whole last sequence was just hilarious. It looked completely non-threatening, like we'd finally win again, until Thome went unclutch and launched on 1-2 off a 96 mph heater...and a split second later everything was fine again thanks to Juan Pierre's Second Right Arm. The baseball gods just want us to know they can and will fuck with us.
*Critical stat of the moment #1: pinch hitters managed a .665 OPS over the last three seasons. Critical stat of the moment #2: Mark Kotsay career vs. LHP - .726 OPS. That's a 15-20 run difference over 650 plate appearances, but Ozzie only makes a handful of these switches over the year. You can shoot from the hip every now and then, but there's a penalty for pinch hitting that eventually adds up.
**Of all the gin joints...
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Anyone know what the Sox recent record has been in the Rogers Center?
It seems like we’ve done poorly there of late.
The season of Oz is upon us, be afraid.
Ozzie likes Canada
“I like Toronto,” manager Ozzie Guillen said. “I don’t like when we go on the field and they kick our butts every day.”
Canada never second guesses anything
It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted
by Scotty Ballgame on Apr 12, 2010 8:31 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I heard on the radio that Gardenhire said
they sent Hardy because they thought there was no relay man. That made me chuckle!
This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training
Yeah agreed
not sure how legit it was, but somebody on the Score said it.
This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training
Never underestimate Che
Probably thought Thome hit it out and was combing the dirt in front of him when Pierre dribbled the ball to the infield.
It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted
by Scotty Ballgame on Apr 12, 2010 8:30 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
the twins are saying because there was a shift on thome, the relay was "unorthodox" and they thought they might be able to score.
(in other words, they thought the sox were going to botch it). it seems like alexei should be able to get out there for a relay and beckham should be able to cover second. i don’t know. also, as teahen was receiving the throw, what was ulger doing hopping onto the field? hardy was already past him. i’m suspicious about that.
here’s a link to gardy’s thoughts on the heads-up play.
"I could give two (bleeps) about it," Buehrle said. "I think this whole Facebook, Twitter, all this stuff is ridiculous, if you ask me."
*ullger.
"I could give two (bleeps) about it," Buehrle said. "I think this whole Facebook, Twitter, all this stuff is ridiculous, if you ask me."
awesome, thanks for the link and explanation
This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training
Hits to left field are usually the 3B's relay.
If it’s in the gap, you’ll see the SS go out for it, but LF to home relays are usually cut by the 3B.
"Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless" - Kenny Powers
by Choke Cubs Choke on Apr 12, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Hardy said:
“I’ve never been on a team where the third baseman was the relay man in left-center,” Hardy said. “That’s what’s weird about it.” Teahen left the bag to make a good play. That’s why he’s so highly regarded for his defensive ability.
The sky IS falling.
by Teahenny Penny on Apr 12, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Hardy does seem like a nice guy
Spent about 15 minutes talking to fans before the game right in front of me. Hudson was very generous as well.
I was also on TV during that Konerko foul catch… my little sister is cowering right next to me.
Thank god the Sox won… still wasn’t all that convincing of a win IMO.
He does appear to be laughing (or at least smiling) in the above photo
A likable, goofy yet apt response.
I was behind the Sox dugout. Looked like Beckham and Mauer were having a fun conversation at second base. Both talking and smiling.
Probably basking in eachother’s awesomeness. Or something like that.
Peavy would have punched him in the face.
“We’re at war!! Aaaaaarrrrgggghhhh!”
"Spare some change, Mr. Moneybags?
I’m making minimum wage over here."
The sky IS falling.
by Teahenny Penny on Apr 12, 2010 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Was not aware
that the Savior was paid to save. Just to play based-ball. Now I’m trying to think of other menial jobs he could excel at. Car washing?
The sky IS falling.
by Teahenny Penny on Apr 12, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Beckham has a black sister?
The more you know! rainbow
The sky IS falling.
by Teahenny Penny on Apr 12, 2010 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
The savior cares not for material possesions.
i don't fuck corned beef.
which is why i don’t eat at subway. by larry on Mar 17
by South Side Expat on Apr 12, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
cast off this taint and become taintless
/stormy waters
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
FJJH.
I am more prone to be inquisitive to promote discussion.
by winningugly on Apr 12, 2010 10:27 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
For the final out, My wife wanted Thome to get the Home run and I wanted the save.
We were arguing over whether it would teach Ozzie anything if Thome did go deep, whether it is ever OK to root agianst the team, whether Bobbie should lose his role as closer, etc. Then Thome got his hit. Then the relay to A.J. to catch Hardy was so bizarre we both shrugged, forgot our arguments, went outside to garden/play catch with the boy.
Here’s hoping Peavy can chill the Jays’ hot bats and that Kotsay’s passport is expired so he can’t play.
"Quantify my balls."
- KenWo
FYW.
FHITA.
I am more prone to be inquisitive to promote discussion.
by winningugly on Apr 12, 2010 10:28 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
sig worthy
"the worst thing about this team is going to be the manager." - Ozzie Guillen, USA Today Sports Weekly
You're a cranky OPOS this morning.
I’m enjoying it.
Moose Skowron: "I would be dying to have faced you."
Steve Stone: "First of all, I would look at you and start laughing because you're the smallest moose I've ever seen in my life, and second of all you couldn't hit a curve ball with a canoe paddle, so let's not talk about it."
So your master plan is for Thome to hit a homerun for a loss to teach
Ozzie a lesson. Sigh.(eyes roll)
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
no. that's his wife's plan.
white women aren’t all they’re cracked up to be, tdogg. treacherous. unreliable.
but they make sandwichs after sex.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
Something they will say to get you to stop and get off of them
It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted
by Scotty Ballgame on Apr 12, 2010 11:22 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Now only if Quentin
would learn to hit the cut-off man. Weeny arm Pierre has to and Carlos should learn to.
Earlier in the game when he bobbled the ball before trying the throw out at the plate he could have prevented the hitter from advancing to second. Fundamentals – this is the most abused one in baseball.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
or konerko should have cut it to get the out at second
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on Apr 12, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I believe
the throw was beyond Kornerko’s reach.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
i think it was catachable
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on Apr 12, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions
your right
Kornerko had to duck – Pierzynski should have telling him to cut it.
OK Carlos your forgiven – mea culpa
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
I was surprised at the throw by Pierre
I swear I didn’t think it will reach the cut off man without a bounce and a roll, but it somehow did.
Lupe, release the balloons!
I think a fair amount of unreasonable hand wringing went on this weekend over the DH hydra
Especially compared with many of the poor abs the savior had with little criticism.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
Some people get diplomatic immunity
Beckham is one, Pierzynski another. He swung at a lot of bad pitches this week.
Come on.
Beckham has has well forever,
The DH machine has hit like crap for the last few seasons.
larry. A kind word for everyone.
I don't understand your point.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
He's has well.
C’mon, Tdogg. Don’t act like you haven’t watched him has.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Apr 12, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
I have broad shoulders.
larry. A kind word for everyone.
“I think a fair amount of unreasonable hand wringing went on this weekend over the DH hydra”
I don’t think the criticism of the plan of trotting out mainly Kotsay / Jones as your DH is unreasonable.
Beckham has always hit, why criticize him?
larry. A kind word for everyone.
I heard that the first 800 times it was said.
Now let it play out. Give a reasonable amount of time, then fire away. And as to Beckham I’m not really into getting on anybody 5 games into a season but his performance at the plate Sat was just dreadful. Of course I expect him to hit, but I also expect a certain amount of production from Kotsay/Jones. The hilarious part is some of you won’t be happy whether they produce or not.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
I would love for Jones to produce so well, he plays every day
500,000 for a real DH. Awesome.
"Quantify my balls."
- KenWo
I'm letting it play out.
There’s a natural inclination for people to say I told you so about a “high profile” situation that goes in their favor, regardless of the time frame. Beckham deserves and is getting a pass. I won’t be one of those that you refer to in your last sentence.
larry. A kind word for everyone.
I would be happy if they produce, but it's kind of like Podsednik's production last year.
It was a pleasant surprise, but it was so unlikely to happen/continue that we were constantly waiting for the other shoe to drop.
It’s so obviously a flawed plan of attack to expect Kotsay to be an important contributor to the team that when fulfills the lack of expectations that we have for him – even in small sample sizes, and on an incremental basis – it only serves to slowly but surely justify our negative feelings on the plan in the first place.
The real loser – so to speak – in the situation is Kotsay, who is put in a position where it is virtually impossible for him to succeed. I won’t cry a river for a guy making $1.5m, but Ozzie’s bullshit plan isn’t Kotsay’s fault, yet he gets to play the asshole by weakly grounding out every goddamn at-bat.
Moose Skowron: "I would be dying to have faced you."
Steve Stone: "First of all, I would look at you and start laughing because you're the smallest moose I've ever seen in my life, and second of all you couldn't hit a curve ball with a canoe paddle, so let's not talk about it."
We'll see.
For me I think the disconnect is the argument of whether they will be productive or as productive as Thome would have been. The latter is certainly no, but the former I withhold judgement on.
I also don’t pin the hopes of the season on them anyway. No one else did either if I recall before we started.
It’s about starting pitching, a rebound from Quentin/Rios and growth of Beckham.
Kotsay and Jones have both to a degree been hampered in recent years by health (some of it fat induced:-)). There’s a chance the White Sox can extract production from them.
The roster is set for now. Get over it. Evaluate for what it is. Kotsay or Jones don’t somehow get “less” abs then a normal major leaguer because we’re pissed we didn’t get Thome. They’re not going to hit .200.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
Depends if you are a half empty or half full kind of guy
There was improvement last year in Texas. They was a 2nd half injury and he’s in better shape – for real. His expected BA and contact rate did rise last year so I feel pretty confident that he’ll be over .200. lol.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
because it is unreasonable to have a DH hydra
nothing unreasonable about an emerging star at second with a couple of off games. Besides we can also unreasonably blame Ozzie for throwing off Bacon’s rythym by asking him to bunt.
Hee hee hee.
"Quantify my balls."
- KenWo
toronto preview in the pipes
should be up in a little over an hour. had a test this morning, sorry for the delay.
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
i did waste a good deal of time trying to find things to link to instead of studying
proud of that
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
nice
I like the previews, I don’t have time (enough desire?) to look at all the teams we play and who their 5th starter is, etc, so it comes in handy. Of course I could play fantasy baseball, best way to learn the league players in any sport, but …
Lupe, release the balloons!
finally we win a coin flip game, lost the first few
Alright, time to right this offensive ship. Playing indoors in Toronto, shouldn’t have any “cold” excuses left.
Big start for Peavy, hopefully he can get the series off to a good start.
Toronto's been playing real well though and winning close games
They also outhit the Rangers and Baltimore’s stocked line-ups. I hope I’m wrong, but I am not optimistic tonight.
"Quantify my balls."
- KenWo
If you're not optimistic against the Blue Jays
You might as well throw in the towel and get ready for football season.
"A common mistake made by baseball fans is to call a pitcher unhittable when that pitcher is not Matt Thornton." - Hardball Times
by Grinder in Training on Apr 12, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
seconded
also Beckham won’t adjust to turf bounces, I didn’t see him on the camp Cora roster.
Lupe, release the balloons!
40 yard dash ... hahaha
unless there is a pie waiting for them at the end of it.
Lupe, release the balloons!
...
(Insert exceedingly negative “we lose faster than anyone” comment here)
The sky IS falling.
by Teahenny Penny on Apr 12, 2010 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions
youdaman
Moose Skowron: "I would be dying to have faced you."
Steve Stone: "First of all, I would look at you and start laughing because you're the smallest moose I've ever seen in my life, and second of all you couldn't hit a curve ball with a canoe paddle, so let's not talk about it."
Whoa.
Just saw Norm MacDonald in a Sox hat on WGN. Mind blown/day brightened. I love that guy.
The sky IS falling.
by Teahenny Penny on Apr 12, 2010 12:49 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
I always liked Norm.
"the worst thing about this team is going to be the manager." - Ozzie Guillen, USA Today Sports Weekly
"apparent" heart attack.
there are literally hundreds of deadly compounds that could mimic a heart attack. i smell twin treachery.
Kubel's gotten to the Bertucci boys
We’re goners
white sox baseball: death, apparently, is an option.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Apr 12, 2010 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs

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