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White Sox Stop Road Skid Against Boo Jays

Man, did the White Sox really need that one. The difference between 3-4 and 2-5 feels much larger than it actually is. At one game under .500, it feels like the White Sox are right where we thought they'd be, whereas at 2-5 it feels like they have to play well for a week just to scratch their way back to the .500 mark.

Oh, and there was that little thing about not being able to win north of the border (0-fer their last 10). To put things in perspective, the last time the White Sox won in Toronto, Jerry Owens led off, Tadahito Iguchi had 2 RBI, Rob Mackowiak and Alex Cintron started, and Javier Vazquez got the win. So yeah, the Sox really needed that win any way they could get it.

Star-divide

  • Jake Peavy wasn't sharp for the second straight start, and it might be time to start getting worried about his longer term effectiveness; not because of two straight sub-par starts, but because his fastball velocity is down. I wasn't expecting the guy who sat at 94 MPH from his Cy Young year, but I did expect a guy who would have a max velocity greater than that of Freddy Garcia (link). I'm not panicked yet, but I've got the antacid on hand for his next start.
  • I was expecting Alex Rios to get a not-so-friendly welcome home, but I was blown away by the commitment to stupidity by the Toronto fans. Not only did they boo him every time he was introduced and came up to bat, but when he caught the ball in center. They even had a "You Suck, Rios!" chant going during his at-bat in the 10th.

    I tried to come up with a White Sox corollary for the vitriol spit at Rios, and thanks to your help, came up with two options (maybe 3):

    • Jose Contreras, who was good, got a large contract then underperformed expectations with mostly frustrating starts and a few trips to the DL. He was shipped out for essentially nothing. But his status as a World Series hero probably negates any ill-will over his poor performance.
    • Nick Swisher, who cost the Sox 3 prospects then underperformed expectations -- though he was still a decent player, albeit a frustrating one -- and clashed with personalities in clubhouse. He is hated, especially around here. But I know I hate him more for putting the Sox in the position to get next-to-nothing in return when they hastily traded him. There were boos for him last year on his return, I'm sure, but it wasn't anywhere near as universal as the jeers raining down at Rogers Centre. Our hearts just weren't in it.
    • Jon Garland, who was quietly very effective for the Sox, but received far too much media and fan scorn for his perceived California surfer, couldn't-give-a-care attitude. This mirrors the perceptions of Rios in Toronto, but we gave Garland a standing ovation on his return (World Series influenced, no doubt). Plus I think of Garland as a true White Sox in that he came up through our system (even if he was drafted by the Cubs) and was with the White Sox organization for 10 years.
    There's no reasonable recent example to compare to Rios' situation in Toronto thanks in large part to the recent World Series victory. But if you head back to universally reviled players from before the Series, your Billy Koches and Royce Claytons, you'd still struggle to find a player capable of eliciting a similar response. Jose Paniagua is the only one I can come up with, but he doesn't count. He's a footnote in White Sox history, not a chapter.
  • On any other day, Andruw Jones would be the offensive hero of the day with 2 homers, an RBI in his first three trips to the plate, reaching base 4 times. But Mark Teahen earned his way out of the doghouse with an incredibly clutch, don't tell me what you hit, tell me when you hit it performance. Teahen tied the game at 6 in the 6th with an opposite field bloop single, then tied it again in the 9th with an opposite field homer, THEN drove in the game-winning run with the Sox first triple of the season in the 11th. According to Fangraphs, Teahen's performance was worth .764 WPA (Win Probability Added), which is like a win-and-a-half all in one game. I don't know how to query WPA data to be absolutely sure, but that strikes me as a clutch performance the likes of which the White Sox haven't seen in years
  • Mark Kotsay's pinch hit to lead off the 11th was the Sox second pinch-hit in as many games. I'm not about to give Ozzie's "DH flexibility" credit for the capable bench work, because, frankly, I like Kotsay as a bench bat. He simply demonstrated how effective he can be in his role.
  • Oh and the bullpen was really good too.... Once RAAAAAAAAANDY got out of the game. (5.1 IP, 0 H, 9 K) Sergio Santos has officially earned high-leverage work over guys like Tony Pena and Scott Linebrink. But not Matt Thornton, because Thornton is just ridiculously awesome.

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recd for the title

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Apr 12, 2010 11:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Seconded.

I am more prone to be inquisitive to promote discussion.

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2010 6:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

3

The season of Oz is upon us, be afraid.

by OznCoop on Apr 13, 2010 8:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

4

"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe

by Ahillock on Apr 13, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

boo who?

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Apr 12, 2010 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

you're drunker then me.

"I could give two (bleeps) about it," Buehrle said. "I think this whole Facebook, Twitter, all this stuff is ridiculous, if you ask me."

by BuehrleMan on Apr 12, 2010 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

All the Bs are drunk. WTF

Moose Skowron: "I would be dying to have faced you."
Steve Stone: "First of all, I would look at you and start laughing because you're the smallest moose I've ever seen in my life, and second of all you couldn't hit a curve ball with a canoe paddle, so let's not talk about it."

by RWShow on Apr 13, 2010 12:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think the Wes Whisler era might kick back into gear shortly

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Apr 12, 2010 11:46 PM CDT reply actions  

he's the lefty getting IP in charlotte so i went with him

it was mostly just a comment on raaaaandy

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Apr 13, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

allow me to be the first.

recd

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Apr 13, 2010 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

yah i'll rec this too

the guy was an all star there and a pretty damn good player… he didn’t leave through free agency or demand a trade… i don’t get the boo’ing. it was pretty dumb.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Apr 13, 2010 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

carlos lee as a comp?

I’m not sure if he has even come back as a visitor… but this would be the closest comparison i can think of. Lee was traded- didn’t leave on shady business like magglio… however i think some people may (or did) boo him if/when he returned. Not sure on that scenerio…but I think he is the closest comp. I’d cheer him if he came in as a visitor.

by the way i love the giants. molina, sandoval, uribe…. this is my kinda team!

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Apr 13, 2010 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

fielder papi liz jenks mijares

kenwo likes the fatties

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Apr 13, 2010 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

you forgot Colon, the Shooter and CC

Jenks bugs me sometimes though… like tonight. fucker knocked off 5 months of my life with that performance.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Apr 13, 2010 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

do you think ron santo is a legs man?

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Apr 13, 2010 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure if stated already, but a video was leaked of Rios denying a kid an autograph

and he proceeds to swear at an idiot Jays fan who repeatedly calls him a bum afterwards.

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Apr 13, 2010 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

that's a pretty old story.

"I could give two (bleeps) about it," Buehrle said. "I think this whole Facebook, Twitter, all this stuff is ridiculous, if you ask me."

by BuehrleMan on Apr 13, 2010 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

NEVER FORGET

It is Canada’s version of 9/11 and Pearl Harbor rolled into one

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Apr 13, 2010 7:50 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Chubby chaser.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Apr 13, 2010 2:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ben Gordon turned down a contract though.

Rios signed to stay with the Blue Jays, it wasn’t like he asked to leave Toronto. Completely different.

"A common mistake made by baseball fans is to call a pitcher unhittable when that pitcher is not Matt Thornton." - Hardball Times

by Grinder in Training on Apr 13, 2010 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not that I think that makes Ben Gordon boo worthy

But I’m sure it does among the meathead crowd.

"A common mistake made by baseball fans is to call a pitcher unhittable when that pitcher is not Matt Thornton." - Hardball Times

by Grinder in Training on Apr 13, 2010 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

it reminded me of Eric Gordon booing at Assembly Hall

unrelenting

This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training

by Jack M on Apr 13, 2010 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

What was the situation there?

I’m not a big college basketball fan.

"A common mistake made by baseball fans is to call a pitcher unhittable when that pitcher is not Matt Thornton." - Hardball Times

by Grinder in Training on Apr 13, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

It was definitely different

Eric Gordon, the #1 recruit of the 2007 class, had commited to Illinois, then decommited last minute and went to Indiana. His decommit put Weber in a tough place recruiting wise, and was considered a very, very shady move, with some Kelvin Sampson-ness involved.

When Indiana came to Illinois he was boo’ed by nearly everyone in the stadium, any time he touched the ball, no matter for how long or in what situation. It was pretty incredible.

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/college/mensbasketball/bigten/2006-10-13-indiana-gordon_x.htm

This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training

by Jack M on Apr 13, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fair enough, college crowds are always a bit rough

And basketball in general has a much louder atmosphere, I’m not so surprised to see something like that happen.

"A common mistake made by baseball fans is to call a pitcher unhittable when that pitcher is not Matt Thornton." - Hardball Times

by Grinder in Training on Apr 13, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

especially in champaign

a very, very odd fanbase

Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.

by Illini0509 on Apr 13, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Odd fanbase indeed.

Between the students and the local population who views U of I teams as “theirs,” despite the fact that none of them or their offspring will ever be able to actually attend U of I.

i don't fuck corned beef.
which is why i don’t eat at subway. by larry on Mar 17

by South Side Expat on Apr 13, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

i was down there for ugrad/grad school (7 years)

i haven’t encountered a more sensitive fan base- the gordon/self/pearl/chief stuff continues to this day. i couldn’t be a bigger supporter of uiuc athletics, but those people need to get a grip.

Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.

by Illini0509 on Apr 13, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess when you live in a community where

the biggest attraction is the college and their sport teams, you tend to embrace it a bit too tight. Not much else to do down there besides golf and drink beer.

This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training

by Jack M on Apr 13, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's true

i’d imagine knoxville is the same way… the aftermath following kiffin’s departure would tend to support that. i guess this can be applied to any SEC school. a good amount of them are located in states that don’t have any professional teams and just about all of them are the only game in town.

Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.

by Illini0509 on Apr 13, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

The hatred of Self was overwhelming.

I worked at the Champaign Country Club for a few years. The “Big money” folks in that community all like to use that place to get cozy with the coaches, and wow, after Self took off, it was fun being in the lounge bar tending for those guys. Based on how they talked about him, You’d think Self fucked all of their wives, mothers, daughters, and small animals. And then ran the small animals over.

i don't fuck corned beef.
which is why i don’t eat at subway. by larry on Mar 17

by South Side Expat on Apr 13, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

haha i can only imagine

Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.

by Illini0509 on Apr 13, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I.HATE.BILL.SELF.

PERIOD.

larry. A kind word for everyone.

by ballyb on Apr 13, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Apr 13, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Knoxville is the best town in Tennessee.

Although I wasnt there during football season.

"the worst thing about this team is going to be the manager." - Ozzie Guillen, USA Today Sports Weekly

by e-gus on Apr 13, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've only passed through

but I’d be surprised if its better than Nashville.

Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.

by Illini0509 on Apr 13, 2010 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

chattanooga scoffs at this.

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Apr 13, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

i went to ole miss.

those issues don’t hold a candle to ours.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Apr 13, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha yeah

i guess relatively, then. my experience is mainly with big ten, east coast grads.

Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.

by Illini0509 on Apr 13, 2010 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

... the grads that keep their full set of teeth well past their thirties.

i don't fuck corned beef.
which is why i don’t eat at subway. by larry on Mar 17

by South Side Expat on Apr 13, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

no, but i expect more than teeth jokes.

there’s like a million things you could make fun of for that school.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Apr 13, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fair enough.

i don't fuck corned beef.
which is why i don’t eat at subway. by larry on Mar 17

by South Side Expat on Apr 13, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh please

Like all us Champaign-Urbana townies are f__king hill people.

Plenty to do in Champaign-Urbana.

Fuck nick swisher

by sti3 on Apr 13, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

are we supposed to fill in the blank?

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Apr 13, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

1. drink
2. chase college tail.
3. repeat

"the worst thing about this team is going to be the manager." - Ozzie Guillen, USA Today Sports Weekly

by e-gus on Apr 13, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

You forgot country cruisin'.

i don't fuck corned beef.
which is why i don’t eat at subway. by larry on Mar 17

by South Side Expat on Apr 13, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

relax dude

This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training

by Jack M on Apr 13, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

of course you're all not. it's central illinois, there are no hills.

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Apr 13, 2010 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please explain.

larry. A kind word for everyone.

by ballyb on Apr 13, 2010 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

its pretty much exactly what SSE said

people in central illinois view u of i as their sports franchise more than anything else. townies are viscous.

"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik

He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST

by U-God on Apr 13, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

?

"I could give two (bleeps) about it," Buehrle said. "I think this whole Facebook, Twitter, all this stuff is ridiculous, if you ask me."

by BuehrleMan on Apr 13, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

fuckin a

you sir, are very very viscous

"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik

He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST

by U-God on Apr 13, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

mobile rec

I am more prone to be inquisitive to promote discussion.

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2010 12:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

prolly not

but i don’t live there so i can’t comment

"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik

He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST

by U-God on Apr 13, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Columbus 100%

"the worst thing about this team is going to be the manager." - Ozzie Guillen, USA Today Sports Weekly

by e-gus on Apr 13, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

They don't

view THE Ohio State University as their sports franchise more than anything else?

larry. A kind word for everyone.

by ballyb on Apr 13, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

100% hillbillies who think they are OSU

"the worst thing about this team is going to be the manager." - Ozzie Guillen, USA Today Sports Weekly

by e-gus on Apr 13, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

They shouldn't be allowed to wear the merch.

Upper middle class suburbanites only!

Fuck nick swisher

by sti3 on Apr 13, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Deserved, also.

larry. A kind word for everyone.

by ballyb on Apr 13, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

FEG

and FKS

"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik

He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST

by U-God on Apr 13, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Derek Fisher

getting booed by Utah after he was traded to the Lakers was the worst. The dude had to relocate because his daughter got sick and he needed to be near a specialist. The worst thing I have ever seen.

by chiefgint09 on Apr 13, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm usually all for the irrational hatred

but something about the number of people booing him struck me as extra crazy.

"I could give two (bleeps) about it," Buehrle said. "I think this whole Facebook, Twitter, all this stuff is ridiculous, if you ask me."

by BuehrleMan on Apr 13, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Canadians are so hot-blooded and intense

They have trouble containing their rage

His name is Rios and he dances on the sand

by Nordhagen on Apr 13, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

You are extra crazy.

larry’s point is well made, you lunatic.

I am more prone to be inquisitive to promote discussion.

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2010 12:30 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I initially thought the same thing (re: Peavy)

but according to fangraphs, his highest average fastball velocity for a season was 92.5 MPH in 2007. The RSN gun had his fastball consistently at 91-92, so that doesn’t seem too far down.

His slider looks pretty bad right now, though — seems to be hanging a lot more than biting.

Also — I was all for Jenks becoming more of a ‘pitcher’, but it seems to have gone too far in that direction. I think Jenks is throwing five or more distinct pitches — four-seamer, two-seamer, cutter, slider, curve, change-up… It seems like he tries to show the hitter each and every pitch. Closers, I think, are better off trying to perfect two dominant pitches and a “show me” third pitch and don’t really need five or six pitches. Any thoughts on this, or am I just talking nonsense?

by CWSKeith on Apr 13, 2010 12:24 AM CDT reply actions  

i pretty much agree

i want jenks to throw a 4 and 2 seamer, and pitch the fuck out of that change up. higher speeds on his fastballs, and you have to admit, that change is pretty wicked

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Apr 13, 2010 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

His curve is what made him an all star.

4 seamer, curve, change…. and i do like him out of the windup…. it has seem to have given him a few extra MPH.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Apr 13, 2010 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just went by Pitch F/X data

his max fastball was slower than Freddy, who had the slowest RH fastball in the AL last year

by The Cheat on Apr 13, 2010 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Hawk and Stony nailed it.

He had all hard stuff.
Nothing off speed.

"the worst thing about this team is going to be the manager." - Ozzie Guillen, USA Today Sports Weekly

by e-gus on Apr 13, 2010 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought Hawk and

stony had their heads up their asses on that one. The gun on comcast had Peavy at 89-90. Gameday had him the same (click below). Same for pitch f/x. The same guns had Putz 92-93, Bobby 93-94 and thornton 94-95 so they were on target for everybody else.

 http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/index.jsp?gid=2010_04_13_arimlb_lanmlb_1&mode=gameday

So I would say he got rocked for the exact opposite reason, he didn’t have any “hard stuff”. Peavy got rocked because he had an 89 MPH fastball and a hanging slider. I’m a lot more concerned about the 89 MPH fastball than the slider (especially since he was 91-92 in the opener). Hopefully it’s just a dead arm but I find it rather ominous.

Where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do, you can't be any part of.

by bhoov on Apr 13, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats what I get for taking the Hawkeroo seriously.

"the worst thing about this team is going to be the manager." - Ozzie Guillen, USA Today Sports Weekly

by e-gus on Apr 13, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think that was just the gun then

Thorny has been reading 96-97 elsewhere and Bobby was 95-96 against the Twins. You really have to be careful with differences between parks when it comes to this stuff.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Apr 13, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the wgn gun is the one thats off.

its always higher than csn , mlb and espn.

"the worst thing about this team is going to be the manager." - Ozzie Guillen, USA Today Sports Weekly

by e-gus on Apr 13, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Actually

accoridng to gameday every single fastball Thornton has thrown his last two outings has been either 95 or 96. Not a single one was 94 or 97. So I was wrong about 94-95 and you are wrong about 96-97. His last 2 outings he has been 95-96. So the gun last night was almost exactly what it was in the cell on friday.

You can chose to ignore it if you like, but Peavy’s fastball velocity was sig. decreased yesterday.

Where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do, you can't be any part of.

by bhoov on Apr 13, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

i ain't ignoring

just going off what i remembered. if he’s at 91-92, that’s cool by me. less than that, it’s worrying.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Apr 14, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuckstick.

Never question Dr. Hoov!

I am more prone to be inquisitive to promote discussion.

by winningugly on Apr 14, 2010 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

So in other words, this was NOT the game to fall asleep in the 4th inning of.

Got it.

Moose Skowron: "I would be dying to have faced you."
Steve Stone: "First of all, I would look at you and start laughing because you're the smallest moose I've ever seen in my life, and second of all you couldn't hit a curve ball with a canoe paddle, so let's not talk about it."

by RWShow on Apr 13, 2010 12:31 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

No, I enjoy watching the whole game.

But sometimes a man has to sleep.

Moose Skowron: "I would be dying to have faced you."
Steve Stone: "First of all, I would look at you and start laughing because you're the smallest moose I've ever seen in my life, and second of all you couldn't hit a curve ball with a canoe paddle, so let's not talk about it."

by RWShow on Apr 13, 2010 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

you'll sleep when you die

party like Jim Morrisson and his lizard king

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Apr 13, 2010 7:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

Domes make me sleepy.

Wait’ll we get to St. Pete. I’ll be in a coma.

Moose Skowron: "I would be dying to have faced you."
Steve Stone: "First of all, I would look at you and start laughing because you're the smallest moose I've ever seen in my life, and second of all you couldn't hit a curve ball with a canoe paddle, so let's not talk about it."

by RWShow on Apr 13, 2010 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

If I'm at home on the couch

I take a nap during commercial breaks and pitching changes in the 6th/7th inning. Its hard for an almost old man like myself to stay up on a Sunday afternoon.

by coffeepac on Apr 13, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I break the rules. BOK. It's what I do.

Moose Skowron: "I would be dying to have faced you."
Steve Stone: "First of all, I would look at you and start laughing because you're the smallest moose I've ever seen in my life, and second of all you couldn't hit a curve ball with a canoe paddle, so let's not talk about it."

by RWShow on Apr 13, 2010 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

OPOS.

I am more prone to be inquisitive to promote discussion.

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2010 6:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

is it still the 4th inning?

RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010

an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry

by blackoutsox on Apr 13, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

heh.
Rios was booed or jeered every time he came to the plate or made a play. He grinned and slapped hands with manager Ozzie Guillen when he was booed during the pregame introductions, then turned from side to side and tipped his cap as he took his place along the first base line. He finished 3 for 5 with a stolen base.

``Can Chicago people start booing Rios, please?‘’ Guillen asked jokingly. ``They boo him here and he got three hits. They were clapping for him in Chicago and he was hitting .180.’’

link

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by thatshortkid on Apr 13, 2010 1:32 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Love Guillen

"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe

by Ahillock on Apr 13, 2010 2:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

since some of you all are younger than i am....

and without wives and children… I am wondering if there is anywhere in the southside or southwest side (suburbs or like western area) that is “hot” on a wednesday night. my little brother turns 21 at midnight and I am hoping to take him out somewhere fun with some hot babes. back in the day i used to go to the blue iguana in tinley but that is long gone and i think durbins hot night is now thursday…

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Apr 13, 2010 1:32 AM CDT reply actions  

try Beverly

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Apr 13, 2010 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

No.

i don't fuck corned beef.
which is why i don’t eat at subway. by larry on Mar 17

by South Side Expat on Apr 13, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I got carried out the backdoor there once for backing my buddy in a fight.

Expected a severe beating.
Didnt get one.

Good times.

"the worst thing about this team is going to be the manager." - Ozzie Guillen, USA Today Sports Weekly

by e-gus on Apr 13, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Back in the day, yeah, I can (vaguely) remember having a number of near run ins there.

One time it wasn’t near though. My buddy ended up waking up the next day with a broken wrist..“What the hell happened?”
“Brewbakers.”

i don't fuck corned beef.
which is why i don’t eat at subway. by larry on Mar 17

by South Side Expat on Apr 13, 2010 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Brewbakers is hell on earth.

Moose Skowron: "I would be dying to have faced you."
Steve Stone: "First of all, I would look at you and start laughing because you're the smallest moose I've ever seen in my life, and second of all you couldn't hit a curve ball with a canoe paddle, so let's not talk about it."

by RWShow on Apr 13, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

i agree with that.

ive done some partying at joe baillys, cork and kerry and sean rhino… and have been to brewbakers…but not too often. terrible.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Apr 13, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mons Venus

in Tampa.

larry. A kind word for everyone.

by ballyb on Apr 13, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

no way, Scarlets!

there ‘live’ sign says evil in the mirror when trolling.

Good times.

"the worst thing about this team is going to be the manager." - Ozzie Guillen, USA Today Sports Weekly

by e-gus on Apr 13, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

their

"the worst thing about this team is going to be the manager." - Ozzie Guillen, USA Today Sports Weekly

by e-gus on Apr 13, 2010 4:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

yah thats probably the spot...

Cork and Kerry’s most likely… i used to like joe baillys….. you all probably never heard of it!

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Apr 13, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

was that the place recessed in the corner of the strip mall/shopping center?

"the worst thing about this team is going to be the manager." - Ozzie Guillen, USA Today Sports Weekly

by e-gus on Apr 13, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right down from where I grew up... I caught the tail end of the Baileys era before they got rid of it.

That place was going down quickly… the neighbors were quite please when it went.

Rhino is (was?) okay for some music if you like the Jam Band stuff at times… but actually I hear Harte’s is the place for that now.

Cork and Kerry’s and Bourbon street are probably your best shots.

i don't fuck corned beef.
which is why i don’t eat at subway. by larry on Mar 17

by South Side Expat on Apr 13, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think the last time I was there was to watch a game in the afternoon.

For that, it’s not bad (The HUGE projection wall is nice.) But yeah, that was about 3 years ago. No real desire to go back.

i don't fuck corned beef.
which is why i don’t eat at subway. by larry on Mar 17

by South Side Expat on Apr 13, 2010 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

i remember the food being ok, turned 21 after not living in beverly anymore and rarely went back barhopping, so i got no idea

as an aside, in the early 80s my folks ran whatever that bar is now across from milano’s. and thus ends my inferior knowledge of western ave. bars.

i hear the cork & kerry guys are taking over jimbo’s?

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Apr 13, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Make sure the place will let him in.

I think a lot of places run with the rule that you have to be 21 at the start of the business day to get in. Sounds lame, but I have had friends who have run into it and had their birthday plans ruined.

Besides, if you wait til Thursday you could probably find a “hotter” place.

by CatBrains on Apr 13, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I was encouraged by what saw the Sox doing at the plate today,

they weren’t being overly aggressive but they took advantage of mistake pitches and made them count.

The season of Oz is upon us, be afraid.

by OznCoop on Apr 13, 2010 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am in a run pool

where everyone gets a team, and your team needs to score runs 0 through 14. First team to do it wins the pot. I got the rockies…so I can’t complain.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Apr 13, 2010 7:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

fibonacci scoring.

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Apr 13, 2010 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

this peavy character needs to step it up.

He’s not doing anything for my fantasy team.

by Akronsoxfan on Apr 13, 2010 6:51 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Could Peavy just be a slow starter

like CC Sabathia generally is regarded to be in April? What was Peavy’s velocity in his starts last September?

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Apr 13, 2010 7:16 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Career April ERA results

2009 – 5.75
2008 – 2.50
2007 – 2.06
2006 – 5.17
2005 – 1.77
2004 – 1.86
2003 – 3.99

The season of Oz is upon us, be afraid.

by OznCoop on Apr 13, 2010 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

He must have started off on the road

in 2003, 2006, and 2009

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Apr 13, 2010 8:27 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

ditto that my friend

This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training

by Jack M on Apr 13, 2010 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

FPR

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Apr 13, 2010 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

You need a pair of pilers to remove a greased Phil Rogers’ head from Selig’s ass

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Apr 13, 2010 7:47 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

You guys might not like it,

but the logic is correct, IMHO.

larry. A kind word for everyone.

by ballyb on Apr 13, 2010 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly what is correct?

The Twins are now superpowers moving forward? No, they will spend money just like everybody else now.

"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score

by Tdogg on Apr 13, 2010 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly.

More $ = Better Players = More wins = More Titles

Everything else being equal.

larry. A kind word for everyone.

by ballyb on Apr 13, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Right

That model has sure followed for everyone.

"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score

by Tdogg on Apr 13, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agree to disagree.

larry. A kind word for everyone.

by ballyb on Apr 13, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are you serious?

Just because some teams have mishandled their finances, doesn’t mean the idea isn’t sound.

And he said everything being equal. Bad management / injuries – Not equal.

"A common mistake made by baseball fans is to call a pitcher unhittable when that pitcher is not Matt Thornton." - Hardball Times

by Grinder in Training on Apr 13, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Of course I am

I didn’t say the idea isn’t sound. I said the Twins will not be a superpower.

"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score

by Tdogg on Apr 13, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am down with the Twins seeking players who developed

outside their organization. Look at the gaffes and misplays Orlando Hudson and J.J. Hardy committed the first week of the season. Yes I know they have only lost two games but I can think of atleast four circumstances where I shocked that a Twins players committed such an unsound error but then remembered…“Oh yeah they didn’t come up through cmap Gardy.”

by Rhubarb on Apr 13, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I definitely like what I am seeing from the bullpen

but I dont want to get too giddy about their start. I remember the talk about all the flamethrowers we had in 2007 and the only thing that got torched was us.

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Apr 13, 2010 7:41 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Well Peavy needs to pitch better and we need to stop these extra inning games

or the bullpen will be shot by June

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Apr 13, 2010 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

can somebody please explain to me

Why andruw has that shit eating grin on his face every time he bats?

by Akronsoxfan on Apr 13, 2010 7:51 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

I don't give a shit what he does at the plate

As long as he keeps hitting the ball.

"A common mistake made by baseball fans is to call a pitcher unhittable when that pitcher is not Matt Thornton." - Hardball Times

by Grinder in Training on Apr 13, 2010 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm almost there, but not quite yet for me

If I get there though, and Jones keeps hitting this way, love me some $500K DH!

This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training

by Jack M on Apr 13, 2010 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

How about the "full-time LF" title?

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Apr 13, 2010 8:11 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Im fine with that as well,

My though is that it certainly couldn’t hurt to give him a title, a defined job, on this team. Baseball is a mental game as you all well know and confidence is a huge key to success.

The season of Oz is upon us, be afraid.

by OznCoop on Apr 13, 2010 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you really do buy into that sort of stuff

then you should want him playing in the field, as he has explicitly stated that he wants to (he actually wants to play center, but that is not happening full-time). If he isn’t he might be grumpy and lose traction on the “mental” part of the game.

Personally I want him be the full-time left fielder because it makes the team better defensively, and probably means less AB for Pierre, who I have no faith in.

by CatBrains on Apr 13, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

i buy into it b/c i played for 4 years in highschool,

it was true for me.

The season of Oz is upon us, be afraid.

by OznCoop on Apr 13, 2010 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think that's true for most people

I felt the same way when I played sports, but I think that holds true for any walk of life. For most people they will be more comfortable when they have a defined role, and that leads to a higher performance. Be that in an office job or as a professional athlete.

I think regardless though, he’s the best option we have for left field, so that stuff doesn’t even matter. He should be starting every day, batting 5th, righty / lefty line up be damned.

"A common mistake made by baseball fans is to call a pitcher unhittable when that pitcher is not Matt Thornton." - Hardball Times

by Grinder in Training on Apr 13, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

correct.

how much of this is selection bias? “I have been more comfortable playing CF, and my stats all show I am more valuable when I’m there and comfortable!”

more likely:
a. player plays better when comfortable
b. player was allowed to play more because he was was better in the past

hint: its b every time. Of course you’re uncomfortable, you’re old and creaky and your instincts are failing you.

by coffeepac on Apr 13, 2010 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not saying it doesn't exist... just hard to quantify...

while there are in fact quantifiable reasons why he should be playing in the field over Pierre (and why he does when he is in the game).

by CatBrains on Apr 13, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think it's more like

does your opinion of your talent match your responsibilities

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Apr 13, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

what in the fuck is the matter with these toronto motherfuckers?

We didn’t get a response from the White Sox blogger for a View From the Other Side (likely he knew I was going to ask about Rios) so I thought we’d take our own look at the 2-4 Pale Hose.

here’s a link to the “preview” from which this sentence came. it is garbage though and wouldn’t bother if i were you.

i mean, i understand rios is viewed as an underperformer, especially by jays fans, but good god. it’s not like the sox picked up the contract of alfonsno soriano.

"I could give two (bleeps) about it," Buehrle said. "I think this whole Facebook, Twitter, all this stuff is ridiculous, if you ask me."

by BuehrleMan on Apr 13, 2010 8:09 AM CDT reply actions  

certainly not on the same level as Soriano,

and if he can hit like he did last, he will be worth the money.

The season of Oz is upon us, be afraid.

by OznCoop on Apr 13, 2010 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am more bothered by the first part of the quote

obviously Cheat doesn’t care and is as lazy as Rios is

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Apr 13, 2010 8:19 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

What the hell did Rios do?

Do they know we don’t hate him, and have suffered through Anderson, Wise, Mackowiak, Owens and General Soreness before we got Rios? You would think he’s Milton Bradley.

"A common mistake made by baseball fans is to call a pitcher unhittable when that pitcher is not Matt Thornton." - Hardball Times

by Grinder in Training on Apr 13, 2010 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

also from the preview: whither sweaty?

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Apr 13, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh please!!
"You see guys like Jermaine Dye without a job," Minnesota Twins second baseman Orlando Hudson said Monday…."We both know what it is. You’ll get it right. You’ll figure it out. I’m not gonna say it because then I’ll be in [trouble]."


Hudson hints at racism for blacks in free agency

The season of Oz is upon us, be afraid.

by OznCoop on Apr 13, 2010 8:37 AM CDT reply actions  

I blame the racists behind UZR, killing his value in the market.

Doesn’t even make sense anyways, it’s been reported he had offers to sign with teams, (Brewers are one I saw), he just wanted to be sure he got to start every day. It’s not like he was blackballed by the league.

"A common mistake made by baseball fans is to call a pitcher unhittable when that pitcher is not Matt Thornton." - Hardball Times

by Grinder in Training on Apr 13, 2010 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

blackballed?

flagged, racist

bird law in this country is not ruled by reason

by soxshenanigans on Apr 13, 2010 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

um

juan pierre is black, right?

by umidontknow on Apr 13, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

no.

The season of Oz is upon us, be afraid.

by OznCoop on Apr 13, 2010 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Speaking of black players currently out of baseball
Better late than never: Reliever Sergio Santos nearly received his first promotion to the majors with the Blue Jays three years ago as an infielder after shortstop Royce Clayton fouled a pitch off his foot.

“They let me know it might happen,” said Santos, who hit 20 home runs for Double-A New Hampshire in 2007.

But a toenail was removed from Clayton’s foot, alleviating pressure and enabling him to avoid the disabled list.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/ct-spt-0413-white-sox-bits—20100412,0,6943180.story

by Sox-35th on Apr 13, 2010 8:59 AM CDT reply actions  

Little Baseball Player

As Craig Calcaterra said at HardballTalk, “Nothin’ creepy about this video”:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rr6HwEJLSKs

by palehose67 on Apr 13, 2010 9:01 AM CDT reply actions  

that kid can ball!

This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training

by Jack M on Apr 13, 2010 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wonderful recap, Chat. as per usual.

My favorite part:

“At one game under .500, it feels like the White Sox are right where we thought they’d be, whereas at 2-5 it feels like they have to play well for a week just to scratch their way back to the .500 mark.”

larry. A kind word for everyone.

by ballyb on Apr 13, 2010 9:05 AM CDT reply actions  

nice recap.

i wish i wouldve seen this one. glad to hear teahen finally came through. i dont expect that to happen too often, but if he can work his way back to his average self, and become clutch, then id be happy.

Look I just want to pass my last Microsoft exam and sleep with white women.
by Tdogg on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 PM CST

by Grinder Rule #42 on Apr 13, 2010 9:28 AM CDT reply actions  

fun fact.

andruw jones has already been worth almost three times the value of his contact.

by larry on Apr 13, 2010 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Blue Jays have two more lefty's

That should help, I figure another week and Ozzie will have him starting full time and we can get past this platoon nonsense.

"A common mistake made by baseball fans is to call a pitcher unhittable when that pitcher is not Matt Thornton." - Hardball Times

by Grinder in Training on Apr 13, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Make sure his sponsor

keeps him away from those 6K calorie burritoes.

larry. A kind word for everyone.

by ballyb on Apr 13, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

that is a very fun fact!

This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training

by Jack M on Apr 13, 2010 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think your comment was more gushing than mine!

This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training

by Jack M on Apr 13, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Andruw swings really really hard

With that uppercut he takes, He’s gonna hit some bombs.If he can stay healthy.

currently sigless

by oahu420 on Apr 13, 2010 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

FSB.

FHITA.

I am more prone to be inquisitive to promote discussion.

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2010 11:30 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

is this really fact?

Please find Jay Cutler some help...

by Jbasic89 on Apr 13, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

you can dispute fangraphs.

but query whether you can dispute the existence of something proven by something which itself may not exist.

by larry on Apr 13, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

That was a "fun" game

Anybody else look at Santos (again) and say to themselves “where the phuck did you come from?” Seriously the thought that there was any question on him making the team vs whoever and getting lost is kind of insane now. The bullpen was just nasty! And the Jones stuff was a cherry on top PPB!

"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score

by Tdogg on Apr 13, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Santos does look awesome

He even has decent off-speed pitches. It’s about time the Sox minor league system generated a player like him :)

by hitlesswonder on Apr 13, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah santos'

fastball came as advertised. His ability to throw breaking balls for strikes, even when behind in the count has been nothing short of amazing. Fastball, changeup, slider. Forget closer. If he keeps this up I try him in the rotation next spring training.

Where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do, you can't be any part of.

by bhoov on Apr 13, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Remains to be seen if he has the mental toughness long term.

“Professional athletics is played on a 2 1/2 X 2 1/2 inch between the ears.”

larry. A kind word for everyone.

by ballyb on Apr 13, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

easy now

lets not get greedy.

"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score

by Tdogg on Apr 13, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

the appropriate qualifications

were made! : if he….. and try him in spring training

Where I'm going, you can't follow. What I've got to do, you can't be any part of.

by bhoov on Apr 13, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

that was my thought

he’s got three pitches, so he’s got a chance.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Apr 13, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

So effing fun.

To think I was going to turn in early.

The sky IS falling.

by Teahenny Penny on Apr 13, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Anal with my future wife?

One could be so lucky.

The sky IS falling.

by Teahenny Penny on Apr 13, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

A date with Rosie Palm, perhaps?

If not, just wait until you ARE married.

"We have to say the American public overwhelmingly voted for socialism when they elected President Obama." - Rev. Al Sharpton

by tailgater on Apr 13, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah why are they so sensitive to that shit?

First, try playing spaceship with her asshole… *bloop, bloop, bleep". If that doesn’t work try a towel dipped in chloroform.

" except for the in depth discussion of African-Americans

without like African-Americans. - Tdogg"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 13, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dunno what's gotten into Jermaine

but I am very impressed with #23 so far.

by No It All on Apr 13, 2010 10:14 AM CDT reply actions  

OCab doesn't make the list?

I could never really hate the guy, but I know a lot of fans disagree. Maybe I should call Chat in the booth and complain.

The sky IS falling.

by Teahenny Penny on Apr 13, 2010 11:13 AM CDT reply actions  

You were drunk and tired last night.

I had him on my list. OM said anyone who booed him is an idiot.

I am more prone to be inquisitive to promote discussion.

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2010 11:34 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Like I said.

I never booed the guy. But I could see him coming to Chicago and getting some Bridgeport cheers (can that be a thing?). Of course it happened, what, 9 times last year? And I don’t remember if he got booed. I thought this was more of a list of hatred that general fans might harbor, not just the elite fans here at SSS. This lack of sleep lately is killing me.

The sky IS falling.

by Teahenny Penny on Apr 13, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I would cheer ocab.

we made the playoffs with him.

" except for the in depth discussion of African-Americans

without like African-Americans. - Tdogg"

by Where Triples Go to Die on Apr 13, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

OCab punched his ticket out of town early in the season...

…by calling the pressbox to have an error charged to Toby Hall. Then he met Mrs. Cowley, and the rest is history.

Swish and Javy melted down in September.

by 67WMAQ on Apr 13, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

haha

awesome

Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.

by Illini0509 on Apr 13, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is fantastic

even if untrue.

I am more prone to be inquisitive to promote discussion.

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2010 12:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

this is how i imagine

mark sanford’s wife pre-divorce.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Apr 13, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point about Swish.

Though, despite his late season impressions of Argonne Forest, Javy doesn’t inspire hatred. Although, to be sure, I did hate him at the time. Time makes me care less, I suppose. I would boo the Yankees as they took the field, not Javy in particular.

The sky IS falling.

by Teahenny Penny on Apr 13, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

What it just me...

or did the overall crowd just sound noisy/distracted last night? Although, it is not surprising that Canadians would be easily distracted.

There just seemed to be a lot of murmuring/chanting/cheering at odd times when nothing in particular was happening.

By the way, that Scotty Pods sure is a dog, huh? Worthless…just worthless.

"We have to say the American public overwhelmingly voted for socialism when they elected President Obama." - Rev. Al Sharpton

by tailgater on Apr 13, 2010 11:45 AM CDT reply actions  

while we're at it

we should have signed alex gonzalez to play short. what were we thinking?

"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik

He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST

by U-God on Apr 13, 2010 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

The time I went there

They spent an inordinate amount of time doing the wave.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Apr 13, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

"They".

Uh huh.

I am more prone to be inquisitive to promote discussion.

by winningugly on Apr 13, 2010 5:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

it was (home) opening day and labatt's was probably on sale.

i doubt they get half the crowd (or maybe just half the rowdy) tonight.

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Apr 13, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Some fun stuff from the recap on BB-

On Brain Tallet-

Jake Peavy was worse, or our offense was very good.

On Rios-

Alex Rios had a good day, other than being booed every time he came into view, going 3 for 5. I have a feeling the booing him is counter productive. Might shock him into actually paying attention to the game that is going on.

i don't fuck corned beef.
which is why i don’t eat at subway. by larry on Mar 17

by South Side Expat on Apr 13, 2010 12:01 PM CDT reply actions  

hahaha vg

This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training

by Jack M on Apr 13, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

laff :)

His name is Rios and he dances on the sand

by Nordhagen on Apr 13, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Kiss.

Of.
Death.

larry. A kind word for everyone.

by ballyb on Apr 13, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

i dont see a pig snout

Look I just want to pass my last Microsoft exam and sleep with white women.
by Tdogg on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 PM CST

by Grinder Rule #42 on Apr 13, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Inquiring minds want to know...

Is Bobby Jenks capable of a 1-2-3 9th inning?

"We have to say the American public overwhelmingly voted for socialism when they elected President Obama." - Rev. Al Sharpton

by tailgater on Apr 13, 2010 12:44 PM CDT reply actions  

is bobby jenks capable

of a 1-2-3 9th inning?

fixed

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Apr 13, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Last one I could find on Google:

Saturday, October 22, 2005 vs. Houston Astros

larry. A kind word for everyone.

by ballyb on Apr 13, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Levine on Rios
There is a YouTube video that shows Rios blowing off a little kid who asks for an autograph when he was in Toronto. These little kids are often hired by memorabilia collectors to get players to sign. According to some people, this was such a case.

Please find Jay Cutler some help...

by Jbasic89 on Apr 13, 2010 12:56 PM CDT reply actions  

God knows people are clamoring for that Alex Rios autograph

On a similar note, when I was a young lad, Harold Baines almost ran over my toes with his Porsche as he sped out of the players’ lot, as I tried to get his autograph. I’ve never really gotten over the feeling of rejection…(sniff).

"We have to say the American public overwhelmingly voted for socialism when they elected President Obama." - Rev. Al Sharpton

by tailgater on Apr 13, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Early on he had a 3XX BMW.

Probably back there now.

larry. A kind word for everyone.

by ballyb on Apr 13, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Orlando Hudson does not find this funny.

"A common mistake made by baseball fans is to call a pitcher unhittable when that pitcher is not Matt Thornton." - Hardball Times

by Grinder in Training on Apr 13, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

orlando hudson can suck my white dick,.

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Apr 13, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

How about Orlando Bloom? Orlando Jones? Tony Orlando?

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by tailgater on Apr 13, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

orlando, fl?

that’d be wu blowing him.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Apr 13, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

no, thats every chick blowing tiger

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Apr 13, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tiger went into rehab because he really likes sex

Really…if that’s the grounds for needing help, shouldn’t we all be checking ourselves in?

"We have to say the American public overwhelmingly voted for socialism when they elected President Obama." - Rev. Al Sharpton

by tailgater on Apr 13, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

this

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Apr 13, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because he's a victim of domestic abuse?

"We have to say the American public overwhelmingly voted for socialism when they elected President Obama." - Rev. Al Sharpton

by tailgater on Apr 13, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or Lando Calrissian

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Apr 13, 2010 2:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

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i don't fuck corned beef.
which is why i don’t eat at subway. by larry on Mar 17

by South Side Expat on Apr 13, 2010 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, I will...and just wait until that bum Jim Thome shows up at The Cell.

"We have to say the American public overwhelmingly voted for socialism when they elected President Obama." - Rev. Al Sharpton

by tailgater on Apr 13, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions