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There are certain aspects of the baseball season that feel like a relationship. Opening Day is like a first date; you're excited, there are endless possibilities, and invariably you read too much into the fact that she didn't laugh at your grizzly bear joke (or that your DH will never, ever get a hit). In that way, Thursday's game was like year three of marriage -- or at least what this single guy imagines it to be -- you know, after the honeymoon period, nothing is new, and one morning you wake up to find your wife, 20 pounds heavier, wearing those hideous flannel pajamas, taking a dump with the bathroom door open, and bleating for you to grab her some more toilet paper from the guest bathroom. 

Yeah, Thursday was a lot like that.

The magic of Opening Day is long in the rear view mirror. I was feeling unmotivated today, so unmotivated the thought of cracking open a box of Mac and Cheese or making a sandwich seemed like too much effort. I wasn't going to cook myself dinner -- and yes, I cook, ALL THE TIME, which is probably why I was too unmotivated to even boil a hot dog -- so I called up a friend who suggested our favorite little Mexican dive. None of this is important, except said dive has only one TV that's always tuned to something in Spanish. I would miss at least the first hour of the game. "Freddy's pitching," I thought, "Yeah. Let's go."

Just over a week ago, I was skipping class to make sure I could watch games, and now I couldn't even bother to fit it into my dinner routine. 

So, yeah, I didn't see a single pitch by Freddy Garcia. And I didn't miss anything. At least Jake Peavy won't have to worry about his fastball being slower than Freddy's anymore; Freddy couldn't crack 90 and sat at 87 MPH according to Gameday.

I'm not going to comment on his repertoire, or give any other observations because I didn't see it, but I'd like to ask a bit of a rhetorical question: How long of a leash does Freddy get? I'm not suggesting Daniel Hudson should start game 15, but I think we'll all concede that Hudson is going to supplant Freddy (or, Q! forbid, some other injured starter) at some point during the season. So how many bad starts from Freddy does it take? How low do the radar readings need to go?

Star-divide

Listening to the CSN post-game show, as they were heaping well-deserved praise towards the non-RAAAAAAAANDY bullpen, they openly wondered who would be the long man? Who would fill D.J. Carrasco's shoes? I had to laugh... for a couple of reasons.

  1. With 4 starters projected to get near-200 innings, it's rare that you'd need a long man any more than once every two weeks.
  2. The D.J. Carrasco clone is on the staff right now. Hint: He started the game. 

And Randy Williams happens to be opening a spot in the back end of the bullpen right now, though Ozzie probably figures to turn to Eric Threets as he can't be without two lefties in his pen. 

The non-Williams part of the Sox pen has been amazing in the first 10 games -- even Scott Linebrink has been un-Linebrinkian. Sure, they took a few losses there in the first trip through the rotation, but that's gonna happen when you can't score any runs. I think their dominance in Freddy's absence is what really prompted the post-game mop-up man talk. I know I caught myself thinking that Sergio Santos' 1-2-3, three strikeout outing was wasted on a blowout (and that was followed by 6 more strikeouts by Putz and Linebrink in the next two innings). I suppose that's our reward for sticking with that game.

Because even though the wife may give you a rude wake-up call some mornings, she can still make it up to you with her signature banana pancakes. 

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MG.

After the dump.

larry. A kind word for everyone.

by ballyb on Apr 15, 2010 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blumpkin.

"Fundamentals are a crutch for the talentless" - Kenny Powers

by Choke Cubs Choke on Apr 16, 2010 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

agreed

I decided not to watch the game tonight. Watched Sunday’s Mad Men, checked the score, and then watched the new 30 for 30.

by shaftr on Apr 15, 2010 11:44 PM CDT reply actions  

phew, no.

nothing like a ‘tivo has finally failed me’ scare. it only takes once to lose the trust forever. and i need you now more than ever, little buddy.

by Trooper on Apr 16, 2010 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

i went and had a few beers at 6, got home at 8 then fucked.

so, good night for me i guess.

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Apr 15, 2010 11:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Do you mean "got home at 8 and fucked", or "got home at 8 and was fucked (up)"?

Moose Skowron: "I would be dying to have faced you."
Steve Stone: "First of all, I would look at you and start laughing because you're the smallest moose I've ever seen in my life, and second of all you couldn't hit a curve ball with a canoe paddle, so let's not talk about it."

by RWShow on Apr 16, 2010 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

the former!!

go go ginger powers!!!

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Apr 16, 2010 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

fact: gingers are violent extremists.

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Apr 16, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

his description is spot on, too

the fun part is you get to chuck the toilet paper at her. cuz its soft, see? 2 points if you knock her off the toilet

by Trooper on Apr 16, 2010 1:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are you married to a garden gnome??

Moose Skowron: "I would be dying to have faced you."
Steve Stone: "First of all, I would look at you and start laughing because you're the smallest moose I've ever seen in my life, and second of all you couldn't hit a curve ball with a canoe paddle, so let's not talk about it."

by RWShow on Apr 16, 2010 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

an apparently fertile one

who knew they could reproduce?

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Apr 16, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Cheat needs to stop watching so many Sitcoms

Marriage is awesome as long as you find someone you want to have around for more than just sex. (disclaimer, this in no way lowers the priority of sexiness) Get someone you can laugh with and enjoy watching every Sox game with and you won’t even care about fetching the toilet paper.

You know Cheat, you and HSA seem to have similar interests. Just saying.

"Quantify my balls."
- KenWo

by justjc on Apr 16, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

No intra-SSS relationships, please.

I can hardly stomach WU and Chiburb’s OPOS manlove.

Moose Skowron: "I would be dying to have faced you."
Steve Stone: "First of all, I would look at you and start laughing because you're the smallest moose I've ever seen in my life, and second of all you couldn't hit a curve ball with a canoe paddle, so let's not talk about it."

by RWShow on Apr 16, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

bromance

Look I just want to pass my last Microsoft exam and sleep with white women.
by Tdogg on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 PM CST

by Grinder Rule #42 on Apr 16, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

my money is on colin

and i’d have to bet triples… can probably get 40-1 odds

Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.

by Illini0509 on Apr 16, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

my pool entry is filled out with colin as maid of honor

with triples penciled in as valet attendant (high-end toyota division)

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Apr 16, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

sorry hun you missed the boat.....

KenWo is already hitched…. maybe if i get a divorce i’ll look you up ;)

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Apr 16, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

She said he should know baseball

;-)

"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score

by Tdogg on Apr 16, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

and after all those tests, too....

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Apr 16, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

i really hate that I won't be there on the 21st

I vote Colin though. Any fan of baseball and Adult Swim…

"Quantify my balls."
- KenWo

by justjc on Apr 16, 2010 5:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

wtf

you dont like adult swim?

dont accept the proposal colin

Look I just want to pass my last Microsoft exam and sleep with white women.
by Tdogg on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 PM CST

by Grinder Rule #42 on Apr 16, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I did not say that...

"You must be 'this' tall to ride the diastema." -Hazy

by homesickalien on Apr 16, 2010 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

i know you like surfing and frisbee golf.....

not because i pay attention to what women say… i just remember reading 5000 word essays on the subjects :)

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Apr 16, 2010 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stalker.

Moose Skowron: "I would be dying to have faced you."
Steve Stone: "First of all, I would look at you and start laughing because you're the smallest moose I've ever seen in my life, and second of all you couldn't hit a curve ball with a canoe paddle, so let's not talk about it."

by RWShow on Apr 17, 2010 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tdogg and KenWo to usher

Or be the main event at the reception

"Quantify my balls."
- KenWo

by justjc on Apr 16, 2010 5:13 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

"Well it's the Big Slow!"

Moose Skowron: "I would be dying to have faced you."
Steve Stone: "First of all, I would look at you and start laughing because you're the smallest moose I've ever seen in my life, and second of all you couldn't hit a curve ball with a canoe paddle, so let's not talk about it."

by RWShow on Apr 17, 2010 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

great recap!

i dont trust Freddy at all, he shut me up with his pretty good first start but i was fairly sure he wasn’t going to be able to do it again and well…

The guy no longer has major league stuff, he got by at the end of last year with smoke and mirrors and if he continues to throw like this i see no reason not to replace him with what seems like a very capable Hudson. If he gives us a rotating good start then bad start i would probably be ok with that but i just dont see it.

I say he doesn’t last 5 more starts. Him and Ozzie are close though so i think it’s going to take Ozzie longer to replace him than it should. Hudson obviously needs a few more starts in AAA as well.

by tourist178 on Apr 16, 2010 2:13 AM CDT reply actions  

i like the hint cheat made

move him down to middle relief!

Look I just want to pass my last Microsoft exam and sleep with white women.
by Tdogg on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 PM CST

by Grinder Rule #42 on Apr 16, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you. Yes, she is.

And as you imply, she has to be.

I am more prone to be inquisitive to promote discussion.

by winningugly on Apr 16, 2010 6:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

or crazy

"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik

He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST

by U-God on Apr 16, 2010 8:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

which is not remarkable for an American woman.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Apr 16, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

leaving this alone, leaving this alone, leaving this alone.

but seriously, do you know of anyone looking for three-day passes to p’fork? i’ve got two that i need to unload.

he better hope i don't get his aim, bro.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 16, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dude

You should be able to get $120 (at least) for those on craigslist easy.

Fuck nick swisher

by sti3 on Apr 16, 2010 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

bad music karma.

just want to get back what i paid and thought i’d check with a usual suspect.

he better hope i don't get his aim, bro.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 16, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

i could probably find some folks

i’ve got tix for Friday, but i didn’t get Sat or Sun since i thought i was gonna do Sasquatch. makes more sense (and still not that much) to do Bonnaroo and/or more Pitchfork.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Apr 16, 2010 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

haven't really checked out who's playing either sasquatch or 'roo.

this other band’s summer tour is sort of getting in the way of everything else for me.

he better hope i don't get his aim, bro.

by Toonderstrook on Apr 16, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

oy vey man

didn’t i hear phish was getting back together or something?

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Apr 16, 2010 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice of you to weigh in

on baseball issues. Is Facebook closed?

I am more prone to be inquisitive to promote discussion.

by winningugly on Apr 18, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the long view

We, as fans, have it pretty good.

Could you imagine following the Sox in the 70’s? The 1972 and 1977 teams are legendary because they had winning records. Bill Melton can’t buy a drink in some parts of town, because he was on a team that came in second.

Even though teh Twinn has won the World Series…the Wild Card is there for the taking.

Oh – and happy anniversary. Any man who finds a woman willing to put up with his shit is a lucky man indeed.

by 67WMAQ on Apr 16, 2010 6:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

TY.

And, I do remember the ’70’s. Follwed by the awful mid-late ’80’s. Good times, if you like anal rape with your baseball.

I am more prone to be inquisitive to promote discussion.

by winningugly on Apr 16, 2010 7:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Okay, are you forgetting that I was a professional twice over - an analyst and a therapist.

The world’s first analrapist.

"But a true champion, face to face with his darkest hour, will do whatever it takes to rise above. A man fights, and fights, and then fights some more. Because surrender is death, and death is for pussies."

by jimmyjr on Apr 16, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

those 2 innings were the only innings i've missed all year.

i am enjoying watching every game even though the results aren’t what i like. my son is starting to get involved and he likes watching the sox too. When they hit a bunch of homers the other night he was yelling “PUT IT ON THE BOARRRRRD YES!”… and he even found it in his heart to do it for Donny Lucy too.

If i didn’t have kids i would be watching anyway….but having a son (or daughter i suppose) that gets interested in it makes it that much better.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Apr 16, 2010 7:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Only the tenth?

Why would you get married in your mid 60s? Seems a few years early for a nursing home romance.

(Agreed on the making-someone-else-a-fan thing though. I was working from home yesterday [had a pleading I HAD to get done], and I looked at the Rockies schedule and saw that they won’t be at home again until the twins arrive, so I promptly said screw it, picked up my daughter from preschool, and took her to her first game that she’ll be cognizant of [she went to Sox Park a couple of times as a baby].)

by BridgeportJoe on Apr 16, 2010 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, forgot the best part.

She liked it so much that she had to go out in the backyard and take some cuts with the little toy bat souvenir I bought for her at the game. Made decent contact on about 20% of the swings. Two things about that: (1) That’s still better than Juan Pierre, and (2) it’s not bad for a 3.5 year old in any event.

And yes, even though she’s righthanded, I taught her to swing lefty.

by BridgeportJoe on Apr 16, 2010 8:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, where in CO are you?

We’ll be in Superior. I see it’s only a high of the 50’s today. Great running weather.

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by winningugly on Apr 16, 2010 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Denver

Live just north of DU (so about 4 miles SE of downtown); work across from the capitol. We couldn’t go straight to the ‘burbs after being Chicagoans for a decade. Though when the two-and-through kid turned out to be twins, that may have been a mistake in retrospect. Our quirky 100 year-old three bedroom converted bunkhouse (south Denver used to be a big farm) that’s walking distance to work and school for her and the kids and a short run/bus ride/train ride for me may not be big enough for a family of five.

The running weather here is unbelievably great. The best part is that there is a part of the day that’s in the high 40s/low 50s literally 330 or so days out of the year — the early morning in the summer, midafternoon in the winter, and pretty much whenever you want in the fall and spring. Snow is an issue in the late winter/early spring, but it’s melted enough to run on city streets by the afternoon most of the time. And, of course, there’s the altitude. Like injecting EPO when you come down to race at sea level. You can feel your legs churning and you know you’re running fast, but it doesn’t hurt from the waist up.

That said, I’m being lazy these days — 30-35 miles a week, all pretty much untimed. I’m going to have to take a month or so off when the kids arrive, so I figured no point in trying to stay in racing shape. If they are reasonably well-behaved, I may try to do Boston in 2011 — the boys will be young enough to travel for free but old enough for it to be feasible, and we have friends near Hopkinton that we could crash with.

by BridgeportJoe on Apr 16, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Adorable story

Helps that I’m expecting our first…

Fuck nick swisher

by sti3 on Apr 16, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

TY.

I am more prone to be inquisitive to promote discussion.

by winningugly on Apr 18, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Happy 10th, WU.

larry. A kind word for everyone.

by ballyb on Apr 16, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

picked a good dude to go with

speaks well of her.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Apr 16, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I appreciate that.

Especialy since you’d like me to go there soon. ;)

I am more prone to be inquisitive to promote discussion.

by winningugly on Apr 18, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks, bally.

I am more prone to be inquisitive to promote discussion.

by winningugly on Apr 18, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks, Guap.

I am more prone to be inquisitive to promote discussion.

by winningugly on Apr 18, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

holy rolling!! :D

"You must be 'this' tall to ride the diastema." -Hazy

by homesickalien on Apr 16, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ev'rybody funny.

Unfortunately, you are not funny, too. POS.

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by winningugly on Apr 18, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you.

I am more prone to be inquisitive to promote discussion.

by winningugly on Apr 18, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

First game I've missed this year as well.

Apparently all I missed was an uninspiring Freddy. The bullpen is very encouraging though, it would be nice to see Linebrink actually earn some of his salary over the next two seasons. I’m just pissed work is fucking me out of going to both of the weekend games in Cleveland.

by Akronsoxfan on Apr 16, 2010 7:31 AM CDT reply actions  

10 games in and we are already talking about Freddy's leash?

I am more worried about Peavy than the sweaty one. Bad start no question but he is a 5th starter for a reason so I am not going to start wringing my hands over one bad start. And all this talks about Linebrink not pitching like Linebrink – IMO he is pitching like his usual self. Through the course of his career he pitches real well during the first half of the season and shits bricks post All-star game

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Apr 16, 2010 8:02 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

normally i wouldn't fret too much about the 5th starter

but we have a pretty shitty offense, and our starting pitching has to give a chance to compete most games for us to be in contention

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Apr 16, 2010 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

If they are counting on the 5th starter

to win 20 games then we are screwed. I think if Freddy or whoever is in that slot finishes at .500 then that should be considered a success

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Apr 16, 2010 8:23 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

sorry I figured you were implying that

when you were saying that normally you dont like to fret about the 5th starter

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Apr 16, 2010 8:44 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

after reading this

my cereal tastes funny.

celebrate the 27th anniversary of the tirade with me on april 29th. my favorite holiday, lee elia day. a day filled with baseball and swearing.

by BuehrleMan on Apr 16, 2010 8:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Rob Neyer is a prick:
"I don’t want to get into the awesome logistics that would be involved here … but, ethically speaking, isn’t there an argument to be made for punishing Pierzynski?It’s cheating, and in some quarters there are rules against such things."

http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/should-a-j-pierzynski-be-punished-for-lying-to-an-ump

I hate this guy. If it was a Royal he’d be talking about what a gamer he is.

I am more prone to be inquisitive to promote discussion.

by winningugly on Apr 16, 2010 8:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Players do it all the time

Was it last year when Sizemore leaped and caught a ball off the wall against the Sox and they called the batter out? He knew he did catch it. Someone should tell Neyer to Youtube Mauer stealing signs and ask if the golden boy should be punished because isnt that cheating too

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Apr 16, 2010 8:33 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

*didnt catch it

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Apr 16, 2010 8:35 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Sign stealing is fine by me

And it’s fine by baseball, as long as you’re not getting your cues from the scoreboard or some other electronic device.

Cracking the code is part of the game.

by 67WMAQ on Apr 16, 2010 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Now doing things like peering at the catcher behind you

to figure out pitch location, signs, etc is arguably anti-gamesmanship. That’s a quick way to get beaned in the head.

"God knows I gave my best in baseball at all times and no man on earth can truthfully judge me otherwise."

by Shoeless In SC on Apr 16, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

I used to enjoy espn

that was before the endless mind-numbing brett, tiger and lebron coverage.

by Akronsoxfan on Apr 16, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

and bosox/yankee knob slobbing

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Apr 16, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

true

they would lead you to believe every bosox/yanks game is like game 7 of the world series. kinda sickening really

by Akronsoxfan on Apr 16, 2010 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Below made me laugh!
Still, I’m sympathetic to his point, especially because Pierzynski’s play is effectively the baseball equivalent of flopping in soccer and basketball: it’s bush league, it’s unsportsmanlike, it delays the game, and it creates a major moral hazard problem, because it incentivizes every other player to lie.

This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training

by Jack M on Apr 16, 2010 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

yep couldn't agree more

This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training

by Jack M on Apr 16, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

this is why the game has umpires.

it doesn’t rely on the players’ honesty at any part of the game. even their hats get inspected for grease and shit.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Apr 16, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

if only there was someone supervising games that could officiate the proceedings to enforce the rules.

an impartial observer using his best judgement to make decisions on such things.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Apr 16, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm not a fan of the cheating but i'm still not sure if that ball grazed aj's foot or not.

in soccer, after a game, they will go back and look at video to assist in determining any possible disciplinary action that was taken or should be taken. of course it’s not always conclusive but it could be used in baseball. (not to alter the outcome of the game but as an aid to take disciplinary action). for example, last week nate mclouth dropped a fly ball but pretended that he caught it. i understand there could be plays where a player may not be sure if he caught or trapped a ball but this wasn’t one of them.

celebrate the 27th anniversary of the tirade with me on april 29th. my favorite holiday, lee elia day. a day filled with baseball and swearing.

by BuehrleMan on Apr 16, 2010 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

i was wondering what your take was going to be

i remember the hand ball incident from a few months back

Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.

by Illini0509 on Apr 16, 2010 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Neyer is a good writer when he puts forth effort

and I’ve enjoyed him in the past but that article was just stupid.

"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score

by Tdogg on Apr 16, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

it is hard to always be on

when you’re writing a couple posts a day. that’s where he’s at, right?

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Apr 16, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, 2-6

one of them is a link fest. I really like Neyer, and Law for that matter.

Was AJ a jerk for ‘flopping’? Yeah. Did it work? Yeah. Shame on AJ and shame on the umps. This isn’t little league though, these guys aren’t learning important and valuable lessons about how to work with a team and fair play. its adults making millions of dollars to win.

Get after it.

by coffeepac on Apr 16, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Fangraphs comments were hilarious.

People complaining that they will now have to explain to their children that professional sports are not ethical.

Of all the evil shit we’ve seen famous people get into, apparently faking your way onto 1st base is the tipping point for morally outraged internet commenters.

by Ozzie Montana on Apr 16, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

The fangraphs comments are horrible now

They’re a huge pile of troll bait. Except some of the really nerdy ones, then its full of nerds and people calling each other nerds. Those are okay.

I do get why people react so strongly. Sports are intended to be fair and we have arbiters to maintain fairness. We don’t have these things in real life. ’Life’s not fair’ is what you tell your kids/friends when they don’t get something. Baseball is supposed to be the national pastime. Its supposed to be a way to relax and unwind from the real world. Its supposed to be black and white, you win or you lose. Now AJ has introduced a shade of gray to it. And now these people have to explain that to their kids. AJ has made their lives harder, instead of letting them relax.

So I get it, that’s a lot of why they’re so pissy. And if the rulers of the game decide to make AJ’s actions punishable, that will help these people show their children that there is justice in the world. And will let them relax again, comfortable that ‘someone is doing something’ about all of ‘this.’

by coffeepac on Apr 16, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

A.J. didn't introduce it.

He’s just mastered it.

"Quantify my balls."
- KenWo

by justjc on Apr 16, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

You got my point across

without leaving the subject line. Nice.

by coffeepac on Apr 16, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

In what Bizzaro World are we, where HSA is succinct?

What’s next, Ozzie speaking slowly, clearly and without profanity? larry being kind and gracious? Kenwo endorsing Ozzie for MOY?

Cats and Dogs, Living together!

Just a Rip-off of the Actual El Guapo, but a fake not funny one.

by DrEmilioLizardo on Apr 16, 2010 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's a real jerk.

I personally want nothing to do with him.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Apr 16, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

freddy looked worse than his line

baserunning idiocy got him out of the 1st.

dude appears to be done. how long does HGH take to be effective?

by Hatchetm on Apr 16, 2010 9:22 AM CDT reply actions  

excellent photo and caption!

This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training

by Jack M on Apr 16, 2010 9:32 AM CDT reply actions  

How bout the power to move you?

His name is Rios and he dances on the sand

by Nordhagen on Apr 16, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

mine only seem to work on yaks

"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik

He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST

by U-God on Apr 16, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Philly fan vomits on off-duty cop, 11 year old daughter, surrounding people

Mercy.

This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training

by Jack M on Apr 16, 2010 9:52 AM CDT reply actions  

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local-beat/Off-Duty-Officer-Daughters-Assaulted-at-Phillies-Game-90983739.html

don’t know why link disappeared…

This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training

by Jack M on Apr 16, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

wow bad

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local-beat/Off-Duty-Officer-Daughters-Assaulted-at-Phillies-Game-90983739.html

This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training

by Jack M on Apr 16, 2010 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

wow

If that were my daughter, it would take everything in my power not to put him over the railing.

"Quantify my balls."
- KenWo

by justjc on Apr 16, 2010 4:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I expected Freddie to throw clunkers here and there

so it does need watching. Im not freaking out too much over it though. The whole game was pretty crappy but at least redeemed from the bullpen performance which continues to round into shape.

Folks seem to be now calling the offense inconsistent, which if you think about it is an improvement over last week when all I heard was it sucked.

"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score

by Tdogg on Apr 16, 2010 9:59 AM CDT reply actions  

the team's kind of idling right now

it would be nice if they’d go on a tear to get some breathing room. but i’m not too put off by this kind of game. just needs to happen sparingly.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Apr 16, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I saw that.

What’s that mean for us little people?

"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score

by Tdogg on Apr 16, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

the knee jerk analysis is usually pretty poor.

i’d wait a few days before delving into anything that purports to be substantive.

by larry on Apr 16, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

naked capitalism has been following this one around for awhile

Yves got out of the industry to blog about the industry. she’s pretty pissed.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Apr 16, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

also: Geithner's NY Fed was involved in Lehman's book cooking

and i assume he’s not exactly setting precedent from the sound of it.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Apr 16, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

if even i know

then everyone who matters has to.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Apr 16, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Teabaggin it tonight?

Get you mind out the gutter or off politics….lol

From HQ:

Mark Teahen has hit quite well at Progressive Field, with a career .336 BA and .504 SLG in 125 AB.

"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score

by Tdogg on Apr 16, 2010 12:20 PM CDT reply actions  

BP weekly ranking- Sox 8th

Hitless Wonders? The White Sox offense gets off to a slow start, scoring just 31 runs through their first eight games before breaking out for 11 runs against the Blue Jays. The early returns on the newcomers are mixed; Juan Pierre (.194/.293/.194) has been a cipher atop the lineup, and Mark Kotsay (.158/.238/.316) hasn’t done much either, but Andruw Jones (.304/.429/.739) appears to be alive and well; his three homers in 28 PA match his 2008 output with the Dodgers in 238 PA.

"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score

by Tdogg on Apr 16, 2010 2:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Speaking of sss stats

Raise your hand if you thought the White Sox would lead the AL in homers after 10 games?

"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score

by Tdogg on Apr 16, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

........

nope

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Apr 16, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

really?

their ISO isn’t that great.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Apr 16, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats because they are next to last in doubles.

"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score

by Tdogg on Apr 16, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's been a weird season so far.

we’re dead last in BABIP by 30 points. everything else is in place though: ISO is above league average, so is BB% and K%. still not an incredibly fast team, but aside from yet more BABIP issues things look pretty sunny.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Apr 16, 2010 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

2006 was the last year we had even an average-ish BABIP.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Apr 16, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think we may have discussed this before (or something similar)

but at what point does below average babip stop being considered unlucky? isn’t it possible that we may have a collection of players that for whatever reason, whether its approach, swing, etc. makes them below babip types?

Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.

by Illini0509 on Apr 16, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Quentin sure is.

But it is at point right now where it is unlucky and should turn around.

"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score

by Tdogg on Apr 16, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Check the batted ball data

line drives are the most likely to be hits, followed by fly balls and grounders.

Unless the batter is hitting a lot of IFF, which are all outs.

If a dude is posting 20% LD% and has a babip of 260, he’s getting unlucky or his liners are so consistent that the opposing fielders can setup perfectly every time.

by coffeepac on Apr 16, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks

i get the basic concept of what type of trajectories are most/least likely to generate hits, but appreciate the LD% guidance.

Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.

by Illini0509 on Apr 16, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, the 20%-260 is a WAG on my part.

play around with fangraphs to get a feel for it. The ld sample for a season is small, so you’ll want to look at several years.

And several players. liners are not scored the same in every park. its getting better, but “fliners” are subjective and while BIS and stats are getting more consistent, their historical data is open to interpretation.

by coffeepac on Apr 16, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

would it be fair to put this on greg walker

because i’d love to place the blame on him

Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.

by Illini0509 on Apr 16, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

no.

it would be fair to put it on the sort of player KW acquires.

by larry on Apr 16, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

damn

i was afraid of that

Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.

by Illini0509 on Apr 16, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Um I think the method is

check the SD per season. ~68% of all teams will fall between 0-1 SDs. so if you fall outside two years in a row, the odds of that happening are 32/100*32/100 ~ 900/10000 —> 9% chance. If it happens again…you get the picture. if my math is right, the Sox have done this at least kind of on purpose. they’ve at least acquired players with BABIP issues.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Apr 16, 2010 6:25 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Meant to say

that’s the chance it happened purely by luck. I’m pretty sure what I showed is how to calculate a p-value.

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Apr 16, 2010 6:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

On the flipside of our sss stats

The pitching is also 1st in hrs allowed thru 10 games. (4)

"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score

by Tdogg on Apr 16, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think we have the highest disparity between xFIP and FIP in the league

I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.

by colintj on Apr 16, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

beat me to it.

jones must be lazy

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Apr 16, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

they just dont want to show the Indians our secret weapon yet.

"the worst thing about this team is going to be the manager." - Ozzie Guillen, USA Today Sports Weekly

by e-gus on Apr 16, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

hopefully we dont need his awesomeness

to beat a triple-a team.

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Apr 16, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

But he has almost mastered...

the ability to drive in one run by hitting into a double play with the bases loaded.

by palehose67 on Apr 16, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great Post Cheat

it was such a samantha thing to saywrite

Look I just want to pass my last Microsoft exam and sleep with white women.
by Tdogg on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 PM CST

by Grinder Rule #42 on Apr 16, 2010 3:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Aww, fuck

Here I was trying to channel my inner Carrie Bradshaw

by The Cheat on Apr 16, 2010 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

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