April's (S)mall (S)ample (S)ize Review
Okay we get it. It's been hammered into this community all too well. It's been justified (sorry timberlake). It's been mocked and it's been plainly well-explained. If it weren't we'd know that:
-Paul Konerko will hit 80 homers this season - really he will.
-Robinson Cano is the best hitter in the game.
-Livan Hernandez will challenge Tim Lincecum and Roy Halladay for NL Cy Young
Now Kong will hit his dingers, Cano is actually very good and Livan maybe drank an elixir, BUT I'd give 1,000 to 1 odds right now that not 1 of those things above will remain true. Okay maybe not 1,000 to 1. Cano kind of scares me. Of course SSS doesn't erase or soothe the feelings of being 6 games back in the standings. Bet somebody 10 dollars a coin flip. Go down 60 bucks quickly and let them talk about sample size.
Over the next couple weeks I'm sure Cheat and Jim from Sox Machine will lay out in eloquent prose the mistakes of the roster. Things like "why the f*$# don't we have a DH" or "why is Pierre in the leadoff position?" The pieces will all be right of course. SSS however has a different purpose. It's to let us know that 6 games is not the end of the world, not some insurmountable objective. Lord knows the Sox have blown a couple of 6 game leads in recent memory. As before this wasn't created to serve as a new source of enlightenment. We have other rock star posts for that; rather its just a spot to put some quick numbers together for your viewing pleasure.Record 9-14
RS 92
RA 111
2009 (12-10 101 RS/101 RA)
About 10 runs scored and given up less than last year at this time.
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Offensive
.223/.308/.390 team wOBA .313
.698 OPS (9th in AL)
3.6 (11th in AL)
Yikes. Now we've talked a little about this just being a bit of bad luck. The team's BABIP stands now at .225 with the next closest at .263. I understand the trend can't continue but damn. Remember those coin flips? Waiting for regression to the mean can sometimes be both expensive and frustrating. Yes the team is 2nd in home runs but they're last in doubles. Dead last. I know hitting coaches don't blah blah blah. I don't care. Fire his ass. When the eventual turn around happens "insert name here" gets the credit, until we call for his head next year.
DH- Ummm. I give up and I'm confused.
1B- Konerko .293/.413/.784 wOBA .483. No, that's not a misprint. People his BABIP is .193. 15 walks - 8 ks? Well on his way to a decent last contract. Just not here.
2B- Beckham .235/.315/.321 wOBA .289. Gordon, where is the power?
SS- Alexei .221/.231/.312 wOBA .242. Another April + more struggles = promotion to the leadoff spot for lefties?
3B- Teabag .250/.357/.417 wOBA .340. Whew. That was close. Admit it you were scared as hell. 28.3 LD%
CF- Rios .277/.326/.470 wOBA .357. 5 swings. That's all it took. Remember that mumbo jumbo? Well Sox Machine showed us it was a lot more than that. Rios seems motivated and focused.
RF-Quentin .187/.319/.413 wOBA .323. Oh superman. I feel like Samuel Jackson killing his old partner Deniro in Jackie Brown. "What happened to you man? You used to be beautiful." The ring leader in low BABIP. Try .169 on for size. At the end of the month, he showed signs of life. I'm confident Q will be fine overall but 08 seems like a lifetime ago.
LF/DH-Pierre .193/.260/.193 wOBA .226. Did you ever think you would miss Pods?
C- AJ .169/.229/.200 wOBA .203. Somehow AJ managed to do WORSE than Pierre's month. Flowers waits in the wings and, with all this 10-5 talk, people dare to dream. Who the hell would trade for him? AJ's numbers will turn around but until they do, we have the great Donny Lucy (wOBA .509).
DH-LF-RF- A Jones .259/.394/.630 wOBA .447. Jim Thome? Seriously more than a nice surprise. The pleasant aroma of a chicken pot pie. Lots of Ks but we relish the power and he's paid for his contract 4 or 5 times already.
Bench- Kotsay, Visquel, Nix - Literally. Bench them. Nothing to see here move on. Kotsay has been bad (.497 OPS) and probably has taken more abuse than warranted in terms of the failures of the early season. Omar has no business ever hitting at the top of the lineup.
In all honesty, if Jones remains a real major league hitter, the lineup will probably have a good month in May. That doesn't mean they couldn't use another bat but it would be nice if your expected ones got going. A trade is unlikely before June anyway.
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Pitching
Team ERA 4.57 (10th in AL)/ FIP 3.81 (2nd in AL)
K/9- 7.99 very good.
B/9- 4.3 not very good
HR/9- .70 1st in AL
Can the pitching in April be summed up with 2 words? Walks and defense. Why walks first? A team that leads its league in strikeouts and limits HR is a good bet for a stellar ERA. Yes, defense can do you in, but that's the point of strikeouts. Give free passes and pair that up with the worse LOB% (66%) in the AL and you end up with a 4.57 ERA.
Starting staff
ERA FIP K/9 BB/9 Danks 1.55 2.81 8.07 1.86 Floyd 6.39 3.69 7.86 3.69 Buehrle 4.68 3.91 3.58 2.48 Garcia 5.87 5.69 5.48 9.70 Peavy 7.85 5.77 6.91 6.28
Danks- Gee John why not tell us what you really think about not signing a long term deal yet. All factors above average. If you look at his career arc it's been steady with the only bump being the 2nd half circulation problem which raised a few eyebrows. Still early but remember the debate on Danks progression?
Floyd- Well my pick for the best year has started a bit rough. A .369 BABIP against will do that to you. No worries. A few less walks would be nice but Floyd's numbers will soon correct themselves
Buehrle- Screw you Mark. You are the reason we feel the way we do. I mean 6-0 shut out to start the season and then the rest of April. Ks are down and walks are up. Oddly enough his FIP is "lower" than his ERA. That never happens.
Garcia- Ugly peripheral numbers but aided by a .216 BABIP. The Sox had a very good chance to win 3 of his 4 starts but he hasn't had much run support. Watch that 1.57 hr/9, it's not warm yet. I still feel 10x better about Garcia than Colon at this time, even if Colon's results were slightly prettier. Fine as a five.
Peavy- Oh boy. Well one of these kids has not done much right at all. He has almost as many walks as ks. That's fine if you're a knuckleballer but you're Jake freaking Peavy. Why couldn't he save those final 3 games of last year? We'll give him a mulligan for April but he has to shape up. The Sox have zero chance without him producing. Somewhere the central division foes laugh.
The Big 5
ERA FIP K/9 BB/9 LOB% Jenks 5.00 1.97 14.00 6.00 70.6% Thornton 3.09 0.77 13.89 1.54 63.6% Putz 3.52 2.43 14.09 2.35 81.4% Santos 0.00 1.93 11.42 4.15 100% Linebrink 1.13 1.46 12.38 3.38 83.3%
By the time I went to press (always wanted to say that) Linebrink was not Linebrink. This is April folks.
Look at the FIPs and Ks per 9. Easy to see why Ozzie is excited about the bullpen. Jenks has a .492 BABIP against so scary 9ths aside he's shown very good stuff. Leads should be safe with this group moving forward, even though they have had a bit of trouble early on. Thornton pitches a lot. I applaud that. I LOVE SERGIO SANTOS. Putz seems to have rebounded.
The rest
Pena- ERA 4.22/FIP 4.86- Been sort of forced into the extended role. 2nd to Thornton in relief innings. Tony is still maddening as he has all the tools for dominance but never seems to get there. 6.75 bb/9 tends to do that.
R Williams- ERA 4.66/FIP 5.56- Speaking of walks. 13.03 per 9. Not a fan. Ozzie won't be either if he continues walking the bases loaded.
Overall a very good bullpen. If the starting staff can get on a roll, pitching will be very fun to watch.
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Defense
All these numbers are subject to classic SSS and wild swings but there is a reason the pitching staff has the highest positive margin between real ERA and FIP (.75)
Defense efficiency was .701. Solid in the middle of the AL. You can't tell anything from UZR for a predictive nature but again there is value in knowing the results.
-7.8 UZR (last in AL)
-12.1 UZR (next to last)
Noteworthy: Rios is really good (2.1) and Quentin is really bad (-3.4). In fact Q has looked downright scary out there and I'm concerned he honestly will hurt himself. I'd change my opinion and demand he dh but that would put Pierre more in the field. Beckham (1.9) seems to be adjusting nicely and not letting his struggles at the plate carry over to the field. Teahen is predictably bad (-2.8). He cannot play 3b for 3 years. He may not want to hear it but the best solution is moving Teabag to RF, Jones in left and trading for a defensive 3b. I know the staff would like it. Okay I'll wake up now.
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Team Base Running
Per BP the team’s Equivalent Base Running Runs (EqBrr)
The White Sox rank 10th with an aggregate score of .5.
As promised, more running. The Sox swiped 26 bases. 1st in the AL besting the Rays. They were cut down 9 times for a 74% success rate. I can live with that, especially if the team refuses to hit more doubles. Looks like Rios prefers the 50 stolen bases instead.
Team leader is Quentin (+1.2). Am I the only one that noticed that he actually does look good on the bases? Alexei (1.0)
Team anchors Pierre (-1.0). In all fairness caught steals really hurt your score but it's been mentioned before Pierre looks a step slow.
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Well those are the quick highlights. Disappointing start. Kenwo even managed to shut me up for a bit. My grade would be a D+. Free free to add your own observations. This would all be worse if the Twins had not cooled down a bit, but for some strange reason everyone ignores the Tigers.
Another thing, look at the schedules. The Twins May and June I think is a bit tougher than the Sox and Detroit's May is brutal. An opportunity is there. At least to win the "within" 3 games back poll.
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Of course for May 1st
Linebrink did turn into Linebrink.
A Jones continues to make us wonder what all the fuss about.
And Yankee games do take too damn long…..
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
HR prevention
isn’t something we can rely on, particularly with that GB/FB rate. the team’s pitching looks like it’s in trouble to me and if that’s the case, you can kiss the playoffs goodbye.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
they did have the potential
RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010
an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry
did anyone actually expect that?
this team’s SP is in danger of not reaching 17 fWAR for the first time since 2004.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
if you thought the Sox absolutely had the best rotation in the league
that would be an okay prediction. and i assume there were a few on here who thought like that. but no i didn’t check out the community projection wins wise.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
Don't feel like searching, but I'm pretty sure someone challenged my assumption that it would be difficult for this rotation to match the ~ 1080 IP, 120 ERA+ of the 2005 staff
you're forgiven
since you were in the midst of a white women addled haze. you can’t expect a brain to operate properly with that much blonde beaver around.
by larry on May 2, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
lets not get carried away
Last year’s April staff
ERA 4.52 / FIP 4.12
Yes the hr rate will rise but it never got out of control last year.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
i'll say i spoke too soon
insofar as i haven’t seen enough games or done enough research to know for sure. but i’ve been keeping an eye on the starting pitching xFIP and it’s worrying.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
I understand.
Its not that far off 09 (we want much better), but the team will have more strikeouts and positive regression on its strand rate 66%. It way too low now.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
The games not even over and another article already gets posted to the FP
a small mercy
RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010
an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry
Well
Just because a sandwich has SOME fecal matter on one end doesn’t necessarily make it a shit sandwich.
It could be a delicious 8’ party sub, with one foot of shit for the coprotarians.
White Sox fan; Jeppson's Malort man
by KarkoviceIsHawt on May 3, 2010 8:12 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
The DER is fine, I noticed that last night when I looking at the Peavy data
Not worried about the defense, pitching and hitting however…
The walk rate on the staff is troubling, the home run rate is going to be around 10% of all fly balls when it’s all said and done, but the staff needs to keep the ball down because .10 times 40% FB rate or whatever is still a lot of homers.
Too many walks, too many fly balls, US Cellular, not a good mix.
Offense is going to come to life and sure the BABIP is bad luck, but bad luck happens and going forward even assuming neutral luck and I don’t think this team has enough firepower to overcome this start.
We are looking at a worse case scenario so far IMO, and that is even with relatively good health (knock on wood).
I would go ahead and DFA Pierre, move Jones to a DH/OF platoon with Q and have Flowers play every 1/3 day or so resting one of Rios/Q/Jones
not going to ever happen but I can dream
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lucy optioned, Castro joins club Monday.
Donny Ballgame!!!!!!!!
I actually loved him as the backup catcher. Next year he will be backing up whoever starts
VOTE GORDON BECKHAM INTO THE 2010 ALL STAR GAME
by nsam93 on May 2, 2010 3:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
I never received my fusilliDonny.
WTF? We’ll, he’l be crowding T-Flow now.
I am more prone to be inquisitive to promote discussion.
recd
you gonna do this every month? i vote yay.
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
believe he did last year
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
Mobile rec.
"April showers bring May flowers and May flowers bring mathematical elimination day to Kansas City".--- Joe Pos
by Chiburb on May 2, 2010 3:54 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
on the bright side Konerko might actually
Be worth a decent prospect in a couple months if he keeps this up. Jones as well.
by Duck99 on May 2, 2010 4:23 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Jesus Christ Larry!
accepted Kenwo. Until our next battle.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
is that a dick or a turd?
" except for the in depth discussion of African-Americans
without like African-Americans. - Tdogg"
by Where Triples Go to Die on May 2, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
"the best solution is moving Teabag to RF, Jones in left and trading for a defensive 3b"
Never thought of this, but I like it.
Still don’t know who to bat leadoff though, but I like Q as DH a LOT.
And DFA Pierre.
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game of 2008.
as i sit and watch the dodgers...
i am left to wonder why oh why can’t we ever get someone as good as Andre Ethier?
Kenwo4life=ratings
maybe they get injured like ordonez or quentin
or they trade them for leadoff hitters like carlos lee….. oh well we’ll get ethier when he’s 35
Kenwo4life=ratings
great play by ronnie belliard if anyone else is watching....
i’m sure it will be on web gems tonight.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Ned Colletti hates Matt Kemp, think he makes stupid one-sided trades based on personal preference?
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on May 2, 2010 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
I like ethier better than kemp.. but whatever is clever. id take kemp as well.
or Markakis, McCutchen… I do love Rios though. he is starting to prove me right!
Kenwo4life=ratings
Can we make a 2010 Ozzie Guillen version of these???

I cannot answer any more questions for you today. I has wickeds gas from drink too manys redbull.
by Marlafar on May 2, 2010 5:14 PM CDT reply actions 6 recs
i should have instagreen powers
" except for the in depth discussion of African-Americans
without like African-Americans. - Tdogg"
by Where Triples Go to Die on May 2, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
"Leadoff Ultra-low OBP Guy" doesn't fit on the side of a die.
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game of 2008.
by NorthSidePaulie on May 2, 2010 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions
great post t-dogg
"the worst thing about this team is going to be the manager." - Ozzie Guillen, USA Today Sports Weekly
Fucking Buehrle.
Since his OD win, and the subsequent “Buehrle-Meter” on ESPN, he is horseshit. Same as when he his his perfecto last year. Mark needs to get into the game and realize that the outliers do not make a season.
I am more prone to be inquisitive to promote discussion.
I'll bet $100 on each of #s 2 & 3,
if you’re interested.
Free Jermaine..............., but keep his mitt under lock and key.
$100?
why don’t you just take the bus from the senior center to harrah’s if that’s the kind of action you want. this is tdogg, white boy.
by larry on May 2, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm into edge.
Free Jermaine..............., but keep his mitt under lock and key.
100 bucks in 1934 was a lot of jack.
Remember bally’s frame of reference.
I am more prone to be inquisitive to promote discussion.
by winningugly on May 3, 2010 6:10 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Not even a no.
Free Jermaine..............., but keep his mitt under lock and key.
First under .500 April of the Ozzie era, and worst April record since 2001.
Which is strange, since literally no one saw this coming.
by The Actual El Guapo on May 2, 2010 7:49 PM CDT reply actions
Looking at the glass half full, maybe it means we will finally have a strong second half in the Ozzie era
VOTE GORDON BECKHAM INTO THE 2010 ALL STAR GAME
by nsam93 on May 2, 2010 8:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
and the day he slumps
the rest of the team is going to fucking explode
RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010
an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry
Good thing KW won his showdown with Boras
And didn’t cave to get Damon. Why would he with Pierre la douche in his back pocket?
Damon will have more total bases by June than Pierre will have the entire year, but Pierre gets to the park at 6am which is grindy, not good, but grindy.
And he’s versatile. He can be shitty leading off or hitting 9th. Ozzie can be very flexible with his shittiness.
by Duck99 on May 2, 2010 8:10 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
He has to get there at 6am
That way he can beat Walk to making the coffee
"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"
can ozzie take a dump so big even he would describe it as "horse shit"
such are the pressing questions of our time.
Even the clueless are curious of Ozzie's ways.
Just got back from coffee with my wonderful nephew. He’s very aware of my love of the Sox, but really has no interest in baseball and doesn’t know an ERA from a BA. At one point he says “Uncle Mike, the Sox really suck, don’t they”? I responded that they aren’t as bad as they’ve looked. He responds “But I was watching the beginning of the Yankee game yesterday and they had the lineups up and they don’t compare very favorably.” I said "well, it’s early and the Yankees payroll is about $80 million more than the Sox. He says “But the Sox’ leadoff guy was batting .084 and he’s 43 years old, and the Yankees’ guy was a ALOT higher”? To which I had essentially no response.
Free Jermaine..............., but keep his mitt under lock and key.
Easy response for the last comment.
FOG
HI I HAVE BEEN DRINKING BEVERAGES
by billyok on Mar 13, 2010 5:22 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
by omnipotent grab on May 2, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
To brighten everyone's day...
Hudson looked like his old self hurling 7 scoreless with 10 k’s
VOTE GORDON BECKHAM INTO THE 2010 ALL STAR GAME
by nsam93 on May 2, 2010 10:18 PM CDT via mobile reply actions
Sox pitchers' lead the AL in K's (194).
Sox hitters’ have the least K’s by far (127) in all of MLB.
We gotta be really fucking good.
Free Jermaine..............., but keep his mitt under lock and key.
WSB: King of the Pop up
RIP Jim Thome 1-25-2010
an AL team not having a DH is like a giraffe fucking a mule. - larry
I am very fond of,
“White Sox 2010: Really Good at Bad Baseball.”
AND
“Good” and “Bad” are interchangeable, mas o menos.
Free Jermaine..............., but keep his mitt under lock and key.
its white and black
"the worst thing about this team is going to be the manager." - Ozzie Guillen, USA Today Sports Weekly
See I don't get this
You write these things like they are bad or something. Leading a league in pitcher k’s is a good thing. A very good thing. Last time I checked a strikeout from a pitcher is an out. Kind of hard to for the ball to sail over the freaking wall in the catcher’s mitt.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
Odd
that a team would have those K statistics an have the 3rd worst record in MLB. That’s all.
Free Jermaine..............., but keep his mitt under lock and key.
Its April bally
Seriously. Nobody is saying they will win the world series, but if they continue those numbers odds are they won’t have the 3rd worst record. Every once in a while it happens but recent history is those teams have done well.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
Where's their position on the Can-o'-Corn leaderboard?
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on May 3, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions
100% off topic
The Phillies scored ten runs off of Johan Santana tonight. It was awesome.
The power play is still f**king clown shoes
Everybody...HIT SOMEBODY! ~ the Chicago Rush are back!
only 50% off topic- it was about baseball...
Just a Rip-off of the Actual El Guapo, but a fake not funny one.
by DrEmilioLizardo on May 3, 2010 12:00 AM CDT reply actions
Crapsticks! reply fail.
Just a Rip-off of the Actual El Guapo, but a fake not funny one.
by DrEmilioLizardo on May 3, 2010 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions
interesting if you are into baseball cards/autograph collecting
the national card show is being held in baltimore august 4-8… white sox are there august 6-8…. may have to take a trip!
Kenwo4life=ratings
lol blow me i am old and married.
much easier to set up a trip to the card show than it is to go party in vegas. you never know… there could be some hot card show groupies! ::hangs head in shame::
Kenwo4life=ratings
"Hey babty, I got a Griffey Jr. Rookie card... let's party."
i don't fuck corned beef.
which is why i don’t eat at subway. by larry on Mar 17
by South Side Expat on May 3, 2010 2:07 AM CDT up reply actions
i've never had a cheap vegas trip, even when i went for 24 hours last week.
but you can fly for $400 and get a nice room for <$150/night. makes it a little easier to justify going.
Cashing checks and having sex.
ive been there 7 times. am going in september for number 8.
ive come home with more money then i spent 2 times…. i only really went broke once. have had pretty good success there.
Kenwo4life=ratings
That's gotta be the first time ever
It’s been cheaper to go to Vegas than Maryland. I figured United would be giving those flights away. Just a step better than Cleveland or Detroit on the “crime-o-meter”.
Alex Burrows is French Canadian for "hair braid"
well the flight isn't...
but tickets to the card show + autograph prices + hotel + tickets to the sox game… it adds up to a really pricey weekend.
Kenwo4life=ratings
That at least makes sense.
What do prices run for at the card shows? It’s been ages since I’ve been to one.
Alex Burrows is French Canadian for "hair braid"
Ridin' high in April, knocked down in May
Or something like that.
The nice thing is that the Skydome/Yankee Stadium ass kicking road trips are out of the way.
Did you know the Sox are back in Texas in July? Have fun with that one, guys.
Three weeks until I get to see some of you crazy people in person!
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
One more thing
May is the time to find out if the numbers don’t add up…or if this truly is a bad team.
The May schedule is pretty favorable. Good a time as any to turn things around.
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
thanks for the edit fix
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
So how much longer before Omar is asked by Kenny to retire?
Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''
Very nice writeup
thanks for all the leg work!
This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training
BABIP;
I know it’s a good lucky/unlucky indicator, but BABIP seems to be a suck indicator for some of these guys. Pierre’s BA is the same as his SLG. No extra base hits. Not a solitary lucky ball down the line + SPEED turned into a double. The BIP’s seem extra P’able.
I could look up a Line Drive Rate, or something, but I just don’t have the heart of a Tdogg. (great work Tdogg)
You can have your religion. Baseball is my placebo.
For the team?
LD rate for the Sox as a hole: 16.3
Twins: 20.1
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
You mean
“LD rate for the Sox as ass holes: 16.3”?
Free Jermaine..............., but keep his mitt under lock and key.
Good God. The spelling, she's a-horrible
I went to college, and a reputable high school.
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
Nuns?
Free Jermaine..............., but keep his mitt under lock and key.
I wish I could blame it on them
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
here's some other numbers
sox lead twins (percentage wise) in scoring a runner from 3rd with fewer than 2 outs, 47% to 40%
but the twins have had 20 more chances at such a situation, 65 times to 45.
also, with a runner at 2nd and no outs twins have advanced runner 42% of the time, sox 31%. (57 chances for twins, 55 for sox)
hey swisher...........you know.
here's some other numbers
the twins have six more wins and six fewer losses in the same number of games played as the white sox.
link?
hey swisher...........you know.
by BuehrleMan on May 3, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
He's going back to Pierre leading off already.
Jesus Christ. What a joke. And I’ve missed some pre/post stuff the last few days….where’s Rios?
having a child
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
Seattle cuts Byrnes, Sweeney may be next.
So Seattle is re-assessing its off-season moves in the context of 3 runs scored in their last 32 innings, wasting excellent pitching. The guys who are not producing (save GS) are being jettisoned. It might be a good idea for the Sox to take a page from this.
I am more prone to be inquisitive to promote discussion.
by winningugly on May 3, 2010 11:32 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Really.
32 innings is a SSS?
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by winningugly on May 3, 2010 12:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
did you read about byrnes riding his bike out of the clubhouse?
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
I did.
What a goofball – maling about $11M this year. Arizona must be pleased.
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by winningugly on May 3, 2010 12:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
maybe Seattle saw that the sweep of them was the only series the Sox have won.
Cleveland L
Twins L
BJs tie
Cleveland L
Rays L
Seattle W
Rangers L
Yankees L
"the worst thing about this team is going to be the manager." - Ozzie Guillen, USA Today Sports Weekly
They suck more than us.
Hard to believe someone else’s offense is worse than ours. And we sit tight while others make decisions for the future.
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by winningugly on May 3, 2010 12:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
yea the sox got the sweep by the (channeling wayne larrivee) SLIMMEST OF MARGINS
wonder how often a team sweeps and does it +3 in RD.
It's only 5/3, WU.
Free Jermaine..............., but keep his mitt under lock and key.
And May includes road trips to MN, Detroit and TB...
…so good frickin’ luck with that.
"We have to say the American public overwhelmingly voted for socialism when they elected President Obama." - Rev. Al Sharpton
Minnesota? That's a two-gamer, and we don't know how the Sox play in the new place
Detroit? Sox tend to do well at Comerica.
Tampa? Always a toss-up.
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
one might place a bit more emphasis on the teams
and not the stadiums. kind of a more important factor.
minnesota also has a solid public transportation system, so i gotta think they'll be tough to beat.
Cashing checks and having sex.
don't forget the lingering effects of the bridge collapse.
gotta still be in the back of their minds.
They'll be playing for the victims and their families.... immeasurable heart advantage there.
You must be 'this' tall to ride the diastema.
by homesickalien on May 3, 2010 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
And Kirby Puckett is still dead.
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by winningugly on May 3, 2010 1:49 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Snikies! I agree with larry.
I’m marking my calendar.
The point is…regardless if it’s only May 3, hitting like crap and continually leaving guys on base is a formula for disaster. It will be July 3 with the Sox buried 20 games behind Minnesota…and Juan Pierre will still be in the line-up making automatic outs.
If the Sox could have just hit “OK” up to this point, they could probably be at least .500.
"We have to say the American public overwhelmingly voted for socialism when they elected President Obama." - Rev. Al Sharpton
difference is
byrnes was brought in precisely because he was eminently disposable. if he sucked, they had langerhans (etc.) and the hit was maybe league minimum.
Yep. SEA is responsible for only $400K.
We, however, have major commitments to Tea-bag, JP, etc. Jones was the best risk-reward play, costing us $500K.
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by winningugly on May 3, 2010 12:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
More ABs for Griffey!
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on May 3, 2010 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Are problem is
We’d have to cut guys like Jake Peavy & Gavin Floyd. I mean yes, Juan Pierre sucks, but even if he was playing well we would still be losing games.
"A common mistake made by baseball fans is to call a pitcher unhittable when that pitcher is not Matt Thornton." - Hardball Times
by Grinder in Training on May 3, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Great idea.
rec’d
Free Jermaine..............., but keep his mitt under lock and key.
let's not get carried away here.
the mariners have cut one player. and it’s not like that one player is the only one playing poorly for them.
Fine, just Peavy.
Sends a message to the other players and lights a fire under them. We’ll be unstoppable.
"A common mistake made by baseball fans is to call a pitcher unhittable when that pitcher is not Matt Thornton." - Hardball Times
by Grinder in Training on May 3, 2010 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
They did send down Tuisosopspsppo.
Also Sweeney does not seem long for Seattle.
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by winningugly on May 3, 2010 1:52 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
that's tuiasosopo's third optioning of the season. i guess they were shuffling the roster in mid-april, too.
sweeney is hurt. again. what else is new.
so the mariners have optioned a player. again. and released the guy who they had playing left field when bradley was DHing or hurt. ringing the changes those mariners are.
fuck it.
tuissappo wasn’t previously optioned. i didn’t think he was on their opening day roster. i guess i should actually read u-god’s stuff.
by larry on May 3, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
They at least see some writing on the wall.
I’d imagine you’d think they’d be acting hastily if they reacted too quickly/intensely to a SSS. We, however, just play 9 card monte with the same lineup.
Except for Donny. Fucker was hitting over .300. Send him down.
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by winningugly on May 3, 2010 2:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
not really.
they’re moving around highly fungible and disposable parts. teams do this throughout the season. while it’s certainly amusing and potentially viscerally satisfying, what does it really change? it’s not like they’ve replaced these players with anything good or even interesting.
while i’m sure many would love kotsay or pierre or whoever to go, all that is likely to accomplish is eating salary and replacing them with something similar, which, oh yeah, the white sox have to pay a major league salary, too. of course they’re playing with the same lineup. the die was cast in late 2009 for this roster. maybe we see flowers in a month. whoopee.
The reason the Sox might have less fungibilty
is they were knuckleheads in signing Kotsay and Teahan at above-market rates. I cannot believe you are defending the “dance with who ya brung” folks. I get that you didn’t want Pierre, wanted to sign Thome (FJT), etc. But why compound mistakes? Pierre? He’s a dead man. Kotsay? Dead! Niedermeyer????
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by winningugly on May 3, 2010 3:21 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
DH Flowers.
let Omar mentor Becks at SS, slide Che to 3rd, bring up CJ to play 2B. According to Gammons today we need a brother in CF so trade for Bourne.
Hell, I don’t know, but sometimes you cut your losses. Pierre, specifically. I am tired of hearing how great he was replacing Manny last year and how he will be OK. (I hear this from idiot friends.)
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by winningugly on May 3, 2010 3:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
You could theoretically cut your losses with the idiot friends, no?
"Who are you, Don Cornholeone??"
whole lotta trades occur in early may.
i don’t want to hear trade talk now because it ain’t gonna happen.
retherford is getting a rude awakening in AAA. i doubt even his ceiling is better than teahen’s, let alone now. and if you don’t like mark’s defense, wait until you see that infield defense.
flowers? maybe. i think he’ll have a terrible time adjusting to the majors. if you’re bringing him up for 2011, have at it, if it’s 2010 you’re concerned about, i’d wait.
dude,
the things you have just said sound an awful lot like stuff in mark gonzalez’s mailbag.
here’s one of my favorites
I’m a life-long Sox fan (65 years old). It’s been my observation that a team that does well in spring training usually does well in the regular season. The Sox finished near the bottom of the pack in spring 2010. Hopefully, this does not portend a poor finish to the regular season this year, but so far it’s not looking so good.
also, is your name rick?
Suck! That’s all I can say about this team. Cut your losses, trade some guys, bring up some of the young guys.— Rick Rannochio
hey swisher...........you know.
the Rockies won the cactus league and the NL in the same year.
thats all I got.
"the worst thing about this team is going to be the manager." - Ozzie Guillen, USA Today Sports Weekly
Jesus WU
I thought you were good with money? What kind of patience do you have. You’re giving Pierre 8 mill for 2 years. You spent money I think you give it more than 23 games.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
pierre isn't a dead man.
he’s probably a true talent 1 WAR player. guess what happens when below average players play even below that average. he obviously shouldn’t be leading off but we already knew that before the season.
again, while it’s amusing to dump players, you kind of need to have a plan to replace them with something that actually improves upon what you’re dumping. i’d like to hear the ideas for that. ozzie appears to be optimizing his playing time allocation some, most notably with jones getting the plate appearances kotsay was getting. if ozzie did more of that kind of stuff, the sox would gain far more than simply replacing one shit player with another. play your best players more and your worst players less. duh.
last night on the score
broken bat a cola or whoever was asking what one move would you make right now to fix the Sox. This isnt a one move fix situation. It is several compounded mistakes coupled with some rough pitching and bad luck sprinkled in there. Several people were pining for Pods.
we knew this would happen with Pierre a similar player more expensive version of Pods. we were justifiably pissed when they made the move and now the Sox are paying for it.
The leading vote seemed to be to just cut Omar. Duh. Not a bad idea. One guy said move Buehrle to the pen and he wasnt even joking which was great. I wasnt in the car too long so I only caught a little of it, but anyway this pretty much is still a dance with who you brought situation.
"the worst thing about this team is going to be the manager." - Ozzie Guillen, USA Today Sports Weekly
it probably wouldn't be characterized as one move
but just optimize playing time more. quit using kotsay so much. quit batting pierre leadoff. quit using vizquel as anything other than a defensive replacement for teahen and in a start once every eleven games. just quit doing shit that everyone knows is stupid.
by larry on May 3, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
This
Use the pieces for what they are meant to do. Vizquel is a wonderful late inning replacement that hasn’t changed. Bat Pierre 9th, blah blah blah.
I still don’t get all the uproar over the subpar moves as far as impact. I don’t approve of them but let’s be honest folks the “good” players have hurt the Sox a whole lot more this year.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
DEAD!!!
Wu’s right. Psychotic, but absolutely right. We gotta take these bastards. Now we could do it with conventional weapons, but that could take years and cost millions of lives. No, I think we have to go all out. I think that this situation absolutely requires a really futile and stupid gesture be done on somebody’s part.
Have at it, KW!
FUCK EVYTHING BACON RULZ WEER GONNA WIN TEH CHAMPSHIOP
...colintj, Nov8, 2009
dammit.. Our*
"A common mistake made by baseball fans is to call a pitcher unhittable when that pitcher is not Matt Thornton." - Hardball Times
by Grinder in Training on May 3, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
As bad as Kotsay and Pierre have been over the past few season, Byrnes hasn't even cracked an OPS+ of over 65 over his last 450+ PA
like I mentioned in the game thread, the Mariners are help up as a shining city on a hill of a saber club and yet they are making the same bad decisions the Sox have (in some ways). wrt to their offense and roster construction. Byrnes left Ichiro out to dry when he inexplicably pulled back the bunt on a suicide sqeeze. That and his bizarro act afterwords probably sealed his fate. Too bad Kotsay and Juan are true “grinders” and would never do such a thing.
Perception is a funny thing.
Check out some new updated Zips projections:
Kong : 275/368/547 (.397!!! wOBA) mercy paulie, must have taken two years to remove the stain of FNS.
Savior: 253/323/415 (.326 wOBA) yea, let’s hope that doesn’t happen. Zips doesn’t like savior though.
And finally, the man so good he can block the team’s best position prospect: AJ: 264/303/373 (.301 wOBA) FML.
4. CF Alex Rios (LM 11) - Is hitting, and more importantly, stealing bases.
Cashing checks and having sex.
Jones' makeup improved to the tune of 13 Player Power Poll Points
That’s really good.
His name is Rios and he dances on the sand
25. C Ramon Castro (LM NR) - Welcome to the mess.
needs more Lucy!
This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training
HQ notes
Kansas City at Chi. White Sox (8:10 PM)
Gil Meche (-70 BPV) has been both terrible and unlucky all year as suggested by his 10.12 ERA / 6.77 xERA. The 38% H% and 53% S% will eventually regress, but he’s not recommended now.
Jake Peavy (-35 BPV) hasn’t been much better or luckier than Meche. Aside from an unfortunate H% and S%, his biggest issues have been a 6.3 Ctl and 1.3 hr/9 offsetting a 6.9 Dom.
Notes: BA-challenged CHW is second in AL HR, though most of these have come on the road and summer has yet to arrive in The Cell. The combination of Meche and a KC pen with a 5.77 ERA suggests that Sox hitters could have a good day.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
KC just nearly swept Tampa.
At Tampa.Don’t count on it. And they just sent Gordon down. Some highly touted young guys just don’t work out quickly enough.
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by winningugly on May 3, 2010 1:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
its a little past quickly enough for Gordon
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
Anytime you get benched so Chris Getz can get regular PT
You know something has gone horribly wrong. Did they decide they pushed him back from injury too quickly or was this just a demotion for sucking at baseball?
"A common mistake made by baseball fans is to call a pitcher unhittable when that pitcher is not Matt Thornton." - Hardball Times
by Grinder in Training on May 3, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
he really hasnt been back that long too know
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
does seem to a bit of an unnecessary demotion. he wasn't struggling that much.
Cashing checks and having sex.
Not that the Sox could've fetched Gordon for Fields and Getz...
but I would have liked the Sox to try to grab him rather than Teahen (duh), depending on the price. The Royals have seemed a bit disenchanted with him going back to last season.
i think his value is still perceived higher due to his once lofty status.
"the worst thing about this team is going to be the manager." - Ozzie Guillen, USA Today Sports Weekly
Thanx for the monthly recap T
great post man.
Look I just want to pass my last Microsoft exam and sleep with white women.
by Tdogg on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 PM CST
by Grinder Rule #42 on May 3, 2010 1:59 PM CDT reply actions
The numbers show a nice little glimmer of hope.
But just a glimmer.
Alex Burrows is French Canadian for "hair braid"
Cowley tweets:
Pierre back atop the lineup, followed by Beckham, Jones, PK, Kotsay, Rios, AJ, Teahen, Ramirez.
"Who are you, Don Cornholeone??"
good to see Ozzie send a strong message. You know, go 2/3 (no xbh) with a cs and the leadoff spot is yours again
the soft bias of low expectations.
Are you crazy?
Pierre is two for his last three. Dude is on fire and the hot streak is right around the corner.
are we already full circle?
it’s only may 3.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
it wasnt a real change yet.
Ozzie usually does his I’ll give you a breather first to clear your head.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
damnit tdogg
when you’re right you’re right.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
where is my reward?
on the post that they are going to bat him 9th i called that he would be back leading off by the royals series….
Kenwo4life=ratings
Fairy tales CAN come true
For one night only, you get to see Justin Beiber…and Mark Kotsay
From the Twitter feed of Southpaw, who is one well informed mascot
BREAKING NEWS…Pop-singing sensation Justin Bieber is scheduled to throw a ceremonial first pitch @ the #WhiteSox game TONIGHT
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
canceling my plans!
This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training
my quip was that i was canceling my other plans to go to the game
alas, joke fail
This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training
It worked for me! I could practically see you hugging your Bieber doll with excitement.
You must be 'this' tall to ride the diastema.
by homesickalien on May 3, 2010 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
thank you, hsa!
This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training
I got your joke. It was fine. I took it in a different direction.
Apparently the fail is on me.
"Who are you, Don Cornholeone??"
Will be there tonight w/ 57 others.
Probably will be > 1% of actual attendance, with the Hawks playing also.
Free Jermaine..............., but keep his mitt under lock and key.
I've never heard of justin bieber.
Free Jermaine..............., but keep his mitt under lock and key.
However, it's interesting
that you know a lot about him, though.
Free Jermaine..............., but keep his mitt under lock and key.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ages_of_consent_in_North_America#Illinois
Look I just want to pass my last Microsoft exam and sleep with white women.
by Tdogg on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 PM CST
by Grinder Rule #42 on May 3, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
good article
http://www.sbnation.com/2010/5/3/1454657/2010-kentucky-derby-recap
This is a carnival: outfits are required by contract, something everyone save Midwesterners seemed to grasp. Instead, they seemed to think “Oh, it’s a sporting event, so I better let everyone at a horse race know I’m a Cubs fan.” Add in the requisite cargo shorts, white socks, and sneakers, and all you need is a beanie and sippy cup to make it look like giant mutant toddler day at Churchill Downs.
Look I just want to pass my last Microsoft exam and sleep with white women.
by Tdogg on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 PM CST
by Grinder Rule #42 on May 3, 2010 5:08 PM CDT reply actions 2 recs
Have to rec this
Even though my inclination would be to show up in a Sox hat. But not cargo shorts, sneakers etc.
Maybe the green one to match Churchill.
Who gives a shit after a few juleps? You think gold tie guy does?
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game of 2008.
by NorthSidePaulie on May 3, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I think I know that douche.
/shakes head in disgust.
FUCK EVYTHING BACON RULZ WEER GONNA WIN TEH CHAMPSHIOP
...colintj, Nov8, 2009
Transactions
Activated C-R Ramon Castro from the 15-day DL; optioned C-R Donny Lucy to Charlotte (Triple-A). [5/3]
It might seem strange to demote Lucy, since the man has done quite well by anyone’s lights, ripping three extra-base hits against lefties in his five starts spotting for A.J. Pierzynski. It isn’t his fault the team was 1-4 in those five games; you could note that he’s only caught one quality start in five if you had it out for him, but one of the four was Gavin Floyd’s blown QS against the Mariners on April 23, and that was the product of a decision by higher authorities than Donny Lucy. Instead, it’s a matter of the Sox knowing their guys and sticking with their plan, and not getting hung up on five games one way or another. Lucy’s a long-service soldier in his seventh year in the organization, a decent catch-and-throw type, and a fine third catcher in an era where few make space for such luxuries.
Now, he might be Tyler Flowers’ caddy next season (if they buy out Castro’s option), or he might scram as a minor-league free agent and wind up in a very similar situation as his current lot, waiting for some card-carrying member of the IBBB* to get hurt or fall out of favor and out of sight. Either way, the Sox know he’s not going to slug .900 against southpaws all season; they value him for what he is, not what he isn’t. Castro’s the better bopper, the more reliable alternative to AJP, and the man they signed to provide some right-handed pop from the bench; that doesn’t change because of a few nice games from Lucy. Instead, the Sox banked the results from their third catcher, thanked him for the effort, and can count it toward their future evaluations of who their catchers might be after Pierzynski’s contract ends.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
In other words
calm the fuck down Lucy lovers!
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
but how do you really feel?
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
"[t]hat was the product of a decision by higher authorities than Donny Lucy."
Flagged for implying that there is any authority higher than Donny Lucy.
by The Actual El Guapo on May 3, 2010 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions
FNS!!!!!
The wet bag of ass was just on an ESPN commercial. Im irritated now. Gonna go punch a baby.
HI I HAVE BEEN DRINKING BEVERAGES
by billyok on Mar 13, 2010 5:22 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
jesus christ, those royals review fags
are a bunch of pussies!!!
tried to make a small friendly wager on this series, and there are no takers! wtf?
Look I just want to pass my last Microsoft exam and sleep with white women.
by Tdogg on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 PM CST
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