Buehrle Bumbles, White Sox Stumble
by The Cheat on Jun 1, 2010 11:29 PM CDT
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PrintMark Buehrle had the benefit of the added mojo from being graced with a few dozen SSSer's presence. He had the extra wide strike zone of John Hirshbeck. He had a 4-0 lead.
A White Sox Winner was on order, scheduled for delivery in a little over 2 hours. But Buehrle, as has been the case for most of the year, didn't have much of anything, and the Rangers pounded out 19 hits en route to 9 runs. Buehrle was bad, but he wasn't alone. Sergio Santos inherited Buehrle's mess and immediately made things worse with a wild pitch and a few hits.
Still, the Sox had a chance, albeit a slim one, in the 9th when they loaded the bases against Texas' fireballing closer Neftali Feliz. Alexei Ramirez tried to play hero with a walk-off grand slam, but instead ended up with a first pitch pop-out. Ozzie was given the chance to go to his bench for power-hititng Andruw Jones with Omar Vizquel representing the winning run (or 27th out) but I wasn't even too upset.
Jones probably isn't much of an option either. Jim noted that Jones really hasn't changed from his '09 self. And long after the SSS meetup had ended and I was just looking for a couch to pass out upon, Teahenny Penny insisted on drunkenly picking my brain on the Sox roster. When we got to Jones, I explained that he was going to come crashing down. He really wasn't any different than in the past, and he had a .206/.288/.396 line against RHP since the start of '07. Nevermind that he's not bloody likely to get around on a 99 MPH fastball.
The fact that we're even discussing this shows just how poor the Sox roster is. They've been the healthiest (?) team in baseball this year, and they've played every game looking like a team missing a few regulars.
The Sox flirted with mediocrity last week, winning two straight series and splitting one with the team with the best record in the AL. But their 6-4 over the 10 games prior to Tuesday's loss was only their second such stretch of the season. That is, if you pick any ten game stretch this year -- there are now 41, rolling from game 10 to 51. You can only come up with 2 such stretches with an above .500 record. 2 of 41. That's a team that's mediocre at it's best.
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One more reminder, there's an impromptu SSS meetup at the Captain Morgan Club at Wrigley Field this Friday. Come on out and watch the Blackhawks (possibly) make history in a building that will never see it.
The event is sponsored by SB*N and will feature some (unknown to me) drink specials and raffle prizes. All they ask is that you RSVP at this link.
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Its never over till... oh hell with it - they suck and will continue to
"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"
We come from France....
"mark kotsay had 9 LOB tonight. they should shoot him in the face in front of his kids." by MM June 1st
by South Side Expat on Jun 2, 2010 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I dont mean to alarm anyone, but I just saw a GIANT FORK sticking out of US Cellular Field.
Yeah, they’re done.
Four weeks in and I’m bitter as shit- Teahenny Penny
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jun 2, 2010 1:42 AM CDT up reply actions
You know what that means? Cheap tickets.
Drinking outside is still drinking outside.
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
The positive of the night... at least for me and my son
As we are walking over the 35th st bridge about 10 minutes late for the start of the game when one of Chicago’s finest grabs my son and me and tells us we are in trouble… knowing we didn’t do anything I play along… he says we are in trouble and points to my son (sporting his Hawks hat) and says especially you… one of the other cops (off duty) will explain it. The guy asks are we going to the game… yes… were did we get out tickets and where are we sitting… we tell him. He then says not tonight, we’ll be sitting behind the plate directly behind the scout section, then hands us 2 tickets. Stunned and excited we thank him – though it really takes about 5 or 6 steps away till it sinks in. My son is gets really excited – and when we get to the seats – they are awesome (directly behind the scout seats and home plate). Got there in time to see the end of the bottom of the 1st then Q hit the HR. Made for a cool experience… thanks again to those 2 – really made a great story my 13yr old son won’t forget
"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"
by Brush Back on Jun 1, 2010 11:49 PM CDT reply actions 7 recs
As the son of a copper who was 9th district and worked security at old and new ballparks,
I enjoy this BEYOND belief.
"mark kotsay had 9 LOB tonight. they should shoot him in the face in front of his kids." by MM June 1st
by South Side Expat on Jun 2, 2010 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Fantatastic story- Compelling and Rich
(Actually meant without sarcasm)
Four weeks in and I’m bitter as shit- Teahenny Penny
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jun 2, 2010 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions
I approve of this tale
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
It seems like this terrible horrid season is bringing out the best in us Sox fans,
nice story.
Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''
Nice story.
Thanks for sharing it. Now go be the man your son needs you to be and get a job. ;)
when i was in 9th grade i was the only one in my entire boys choir to understood my teacher
by BoeJouma on May 11, 2010 5:46 PM EDT
Fact: White Sox fans account for 72% of the unemployed in this country.
"I just want people to remember there's a guy in between these things."
by Teahenny Penny on Jun 2, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
"Come on out and watch the Blackhawks (possibly) make history in a building that will never see it."
+1.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
uggh
Feel asleep during the game, woke up and heard Bill M talking about how frustrating this loss was. Then a few hours later I am woken up by a huge thunderclap
Superantibiotics will cure that.
If that's all there is my friend, then let's keep dancing...
by Chiburb on Jun 2, 2010 4:11 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 2 recs
Right after I hit post
I knew something like that would be coming, just wondering from who. Chiburb WINS!
Yes! If you mean his 3:25 AM post and my 4:11 AM reply.
What better time?
If that's all there is my friend, then let's keep dancing...
no excuse
Lefties hit about .104 against Feliz and righties hit around .250. To let Vizquel hit with two out in the ninth with Jones and Nix on the bench just tells me Ozzie doesn’t care. I know he likes to manage by instinct, but would it kill him to look at a guy’s split stats?
Also looking disinterested is Alexei. Almost every throw to first was in the dirt, he didn’t think it necessary to pull back his bunt attempt on a pitch that nearly hit him in the foot and his one pitch at bat in the ninth was pathetic.
the way 'dis kid will play will make you forget about Ozzie
"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"
Ummm. No you don't.
Neither in salary nor ticket prices. Unless you’re just talking about Visquel. Then yes.
Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 2, 2010 8:22 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah i just don't get it
This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training
small sample size, but in the month of may john ely was second in FIP and xFIP, and
without citation/reference, there are some who project that he will be league average (~4th or 5ht starter?). i’m getting into what ifs based on small sample size, but i would think that’s giving up too much for pierre. sure freddy is doing OK for now, but i would rather have ely locked up in the bottom of the rotation for multiple years
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 2, 2010 7:30 AM CDT reply actions
disregard 'without citation'
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 2, 2010 7:35 AM CDT up reply actions
i don't want to criticize management to much, because most projection systems weren't high on him for this season, and even folks from here didn't think he would amount to much in the long-term
it’s just that with the season down the tubes, i would much rather have ely at the back-end instead of freddy for one year…if management really thought we were going to compete this year with the wretched line-up they put out on a daily basis, then this trade makes this colossal fuck-up of a season even more frustrating
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 2, 2010 8:01 AM CDT up reply actions
I say criticize management - its the same story year after year now
"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"
I'll criticize
management too much. Let’s see, there’s….
Not making any effort to sign either Orlando Hudson or Adrian Beltre and then saying that the team has upgraded its defense at third with Mark Teahen, the entirety of the Nick Swisher affair, giving Scott Linebrink a 4 year deal (averaging over $4 mill per), moving Beckham around constantly, Rob Mac-O-Wack, the Juan Pierre deal, not making any play for Vlad Guerrero or Jim Thome, giving those at bats instead to Andrew Jones, giving Mark Kotsay more than ample playing time, Darrin Erstad, giving Jose Contreras a 3 year extension based solely off one half season, continuing to give Randy Williams chances to fuck it up, trading Chris Young over Brian Anderson, letting Scotty Pods back in, Twitter-Gate, Twitter-Gate 2: Olney’s Revenge, no replacements in the farm system to speak of for position players (because I personally don’t really believe in Morel, I always projected him to be a utility guy) and no real organizational philosophy, focus or direction.
How’s all that?
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I'll grant you all but the following
Mackowiak, wrongly, became the scapegoat for 2006. He’s not the reason the starting staff regressed, nor is he the reason the bullpen tanked. He got more than his fair share of playing time because Anderson sucked.
Chris Young had one really good season, 3 years ago. He hasn’t been that impressive since. Plus – you got Javy Vazquez in return. He came to a bad end, but he did give the team 200 innings of league average pitching every year he was here.
Pods v. 2.0 worked out pretty well last year.
Twitter gate would have been forgotten if the team didn’t dig itself into a huge hold.
There are many counts in the indictment against the current regime. No need to add charges that will get tossed out in court.
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
I'm not
blaming Mackowiak for 2006 (that was the bullpen and lineup petering out in July/August), but I do hold the way in which he was used against the team. He was totally misused, and like Swisher, forced to play out of position. I think that is a fair charge.
Chris Young hasn’t been bad at all this year, and Brian Anderson never even put together one good season. Yes, you did get Vasquez, and there’s nothing the Sox could have done to fix him or make him any better (in fact, I think that Ozzie’s handling of him was one of his best managerial moments, the way he kept showing faith in Javy). So, Young has 2 good years in 4. Talent mis-evaluation.
Pods, for the .300 average and ‘spark’ last year also cost you at least 4 games with his base-running blunders (Seattle, 10th inning, on 3rd, Thome at the plate….Pods gets picked off) and his “defense” was so awful that I’m certain it cost you a game or two as well. So, I’ll count that as a wash.
Twitter Gate(s) plural don’t get forgotten by me because it’s indicative of the complete silliness that goes on with this team. You, as a GM, seemingly spent more time worrying about a social networking device than going through websites that we here use daily to objectively analyze players for your major league roster.
i don’t think any of those are unfair to hold against the current regime. But I can’t wait for the reality show (and I genuinely mean that).
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually
Young has had 3 good years the last 4. He sucked in 2009 for sure, but his 2008 wasn’t bad (22 home runs, 85 RBI, 14 SB and a higher average than his “best” year of 2007). I’m going to say that Chris Young was a serious error in talent judgment, and that’s compounded by the fact that the Dback originally asked for Brain Anderson anyway.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions
he has accumulated a whopping 4.8 WAR over 5 seasons
with his best season being a 2.2, making him an average player. He has not had three good years.
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
Exhibit A your honor.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
WAR isn't everything
and fine, he’s just been an ‘average’ player. What was Brian Anderson?
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
The question is what was Javy?
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
A mistake that
several other GM’s have made (some of them even twice). Javy wasn’t part of my criticism of Kenny. I think Javy was fine, for what he was. A massively talented guy who is as mentally strong as aluminum foil.
I know that you had to trade a young prospect to get him (Javy), and the point below about the ‘Young vs. Anderson’ rumor being substantiated, fine, I’ll concede that. That doesn’t change the fact that no matter which highly-touted outfielder the Dbacks asked for, Kenny traded away the far better player, by any set of measurement. My critique of the Javy-deal (Javy aside) was and is Williams talent evaluation.
It’s not just the trades, look at the drafts. I know he took over fairly recently so there’s a small sample size, and that Jared Mitchell being broken hurts the evaluation, but Kenny Williams Jr.? Really?
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
far better player?
what? one is a below average major leaguer. another is a replacement level major leaguer.
so, if you concede the point, what if the dbacks asked for young and didn’t want anderson?
Brian does mash in AZ...
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by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 2, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions
and the rest of the players in that round of the draft have done what exactly?
http://www.thebaseballcube.com/draft/2008/June-Reg/6.shtml
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
Do you think Kenny Williams is a good drafter of talent?
And if the Dbacks asked for Young, that’s fine, but Williams undervalued him in direct comparison with Anderson and Owens. I understand guys fall through the cracks and sometimes you just plain miss, but for me, Williams misses, in a number of categories, are starting to add up.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
when he actually took over the drafting
instead of letting others do so, the talent got a lot better.
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
Better than it was, without doubt
But I wouldn’t go so far as to say it became good (because the previous regime was so awful). And it’s rather hard to miss with first-rounders unless you’re Kansas City.
Yes, Beckham is a solid check-mark in the ‘win’ column and Hudson looks very promising. Fine, you both think he’s better at it than I do.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
this isn't the nfl
a lot of first-rounders bust
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
sigh.
this stuff isn’t hard to look up.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/a-reality-check-from-the-draft-hype/
QUOTE
Fine, you both think he’s better at it than I do
UNQUOTE
And if drafting is so hard, why has a team in your division been able year in and year out to draft well and produce guys every year that produce for the major league club?
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions
There's also
Tampa and St. Louis. Colorado’s recent draft history is pretty decent, as are the Marlins and Washington. Boston is able to draft well.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions
sooo
some teams do well in the draft, some teams do okay and some teams do poorly. certainly an interesting result.
My point
was that it’s not impossible to do. A fair number of clubs are able to do it, none really besides Boston, with the financial oomph the Sox can have. It brings me back to my critiques and criticisms of Kenny Williams.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions
you sure like to meander around with your arguments.
i thought it was too small of a sample size to evaluate williams since he took over the draft.
i have never seen washington described as good at drafting
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
Desmond, Zimmerman, Clippard
Strasburg.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
'Scuse
Clippard was drafted by the Yankees.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
i like this.
three players over six drafts, including a #1 and #4 overall, only one of whom has actually done anything at the major league level. those guys are fucking awesome at drafting. and i totally bet if KW had the #1 overall last year he wouldn’t have drafted strasburg.
"And it’s rather hard to miss with first-rounders unless you’re Kansas City."
and clippard was drafted by the yankees. again, this stuff isn’t hard to look up.
three players is a good job?
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
As are
Storen and Jordan Zimmerman. And though they aren’t playing for the team, this is the same team that drafted Philips, Lee and Sizemore.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions
However far back
you wanna go, baby. I got all day.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
How about you kiss my ass?
Charles Barkley & Terry Boers are the two smartest men in the history of human civilization.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions
prolly shouldn't use an article from last summer
or one where the guy uses RBI as a criteria for good drafting
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
by U-God on Jun 2, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I personally
tend to split the middle when it comes to the RBI-value thought. No, they aren’t truly indicative of how good a guy is, but they’re aren’t totally worthless either.
And if SI does this again for 2010, so be it.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Queeenie, you've got some serious reading to do
I highly suggest curling up with Tom Tango’s “The Book” as a starting point.
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
I've read several books on
baseball stats, my favorite of which was “Baseball Beyond the Numbers Why Everything You Know About The Game is Wrong.”
I can use whatever statistics I want to evaluate a team or player and I stand by my assertion that RBI’s are a flawed statistic that aren’t totally devoid of value. I don’t really get how that’s a controversial statement. They shouldn’t be used to make decisions about players solely, unless it’s fantasy baseball.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah, that's a good book.
The way your previous statements were framed made me think that you would benefit from reading “The Book”, but the BBTN book is good as well. Perhaps better given the discussion of RBIs.
IMHO RBIs are horseshit in discussions of a player’s talent.
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
RBI tell you nothing that about 37 other stats could tell you far better.
by larry on Jun 2, 2010 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Again
I didn’t say they were perfect, and agree they are vastly overrated by most.
Put it this way, while I consider them to be in the same category as ‘wins and losses’ for a pitcher, I don’t find them quite as useless. They do, however crudely, measure what a guy has done (though directly related to teammates’ productivity).
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Thank you for transcribing my thoughts on the matter
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
this motherfuckers
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 2, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I found this on the interweb and think it is appropo:
“Do I think Ryan Howard is the best hitter in baseball because he gets 140 RBIs every year? No, but he’s a damn good first baseman and I don’t need some nerd running lab experiments to tell me so.”
Word.
RIP Gary Coleman, hopefully you find what Willis is talking about on the other side.
Yeah, sabr geeks are the worst
The coolest are dudes who spend their time e-mailing a popular national columnist in hopes of getting published in a mailbag saying how lame statheads are.
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by Ozzie Montana on Jun 2, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
U-God, this is gold!
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
what is your argument?
is it that the white sox did a less than good job of drafting over the last ten years? i don’t think anyone will debate that. however, you started with the premise that KW has done a poor job since he took over more direct control of the draft. and i have no clue how you’re making that argument at this point.
No
I started with the premise of questioning Kenny Williams over-all talent evaluation and used the recent draft results as part of my reasoning. There’s also the fact that as GM, he had final say over who to draft even when he wasn’t directly controlling it and allowed some pretty bad players to be drafted under his watch (Fields, Kyle Mcculloch, Lance Broadway). As the GM, and as the man with final say, he could have told his scouting department no, don’t draft this guy, draft this guy. But he obviously thought enough of those guys (and his scouts abilities) to listen to them. Williams has made some remarkably good moves and draft picks, and I don’t discount those for a minute. My argument is that the bad moves and failures are piling up and that in my world, it’s time to consider a change.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions
How much time do you give a guy though?
When is it fair to start asking for a change?
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
And by time
I mean he’s been the GM for ten years. And he’s changed his mind about what his team would be seemingly every year since the team won the WS (the ‘power-arm bullpen’ of 07, the ‘obp-power team’ of 08, whatever in the hell last year was supposed to be, the ‘pitching-and-defense’ team of this year). When does it reach the point where you say, “Enough. We need a consistent philosophy and way of doing things and it’s time for a new direction?”
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
No he hasn't
The only drastic change came this year. What changed was the type of filler pieces the White Sox would pick up. They have always been a power arm, HR hitting team.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
I agree that's what they are in reality
but that’s not what the White Sox as an organization, say they are.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Who cares what Ozzie says
The point was on how the team was built. If there is an area you want to pick on it should be defense. Especially considering the White Sox staffs in recent years.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
KW hasn't changed his view of power arms.
does this bullpen not look like power arms?
frankly, i don’t see much difference in philosophy: build a team with good starting pitching, a power bullpen and a low OBP/high SLG offense.
But with the trades for
Swisher and Cabrera in 08, Williams himself specifically got out there and said that he wanted the team to be more OBP heavy. I can’t find the exact quote (for which I’m sure I’ll suffer much derision) but I know he said it. And he’s echoed some of Ozzie’s blithering about a ‘smaller-ball’ team the last two years himself.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
He hasn't said small ball
as opposed to “run distribution” There is merit in that argument. His way of trying to accomplish it was flawed and relied on too many high quartile performances.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
Oh so you can't find the quote huh?
I can’t find the exact quote
I DOUBT IT WAS EVER SAID THEN. YOU NEED TO GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT AND YOUR STATS RIGHT BEFORE YOU GO PUKING ALL OVER OUR HOLY ‘THE DAY AFTER’ THREADS. REESPEK MINES.
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by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 2, 2010 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
CAPITAL
LETTERS ARE BIG AND SHINEY
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions
EASIER TO GET MY POINT ACROSS
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by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 2, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
WHY ARE YOU
YELLING, IT’S THE INTERNET…I CAN’T HEAR YOU
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
BECAUSE I'M WTGTD
LEARN A LESSON OR DON’T.
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by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 2, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I DON'T THINK
I CARE TO LEARN WHAT YOU HAVE TO TEACH, BUT THANKS
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 6:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I TEACH LIFE LESSONS LADY
I got a pain in my side on this side, i got a pain on my side on this side. My knees hurt, my elbow hurts like LeBron. Most of all my head hurts, my psyche's hurt. I'm hurting all over my body!
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 2, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions
I'M JUST FINE WITH MY LIFE AS IS.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
This will not work
you are a Michigan fan.
I got a pain in my side on this side, i got a pain on my side on this side. My knees hurt, my elbow hurts like LeBron. Most of all my head hurts, my psyche's hurt. I'm hurting all over my body!
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 2, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
WHY DOES THAT MAT...
(Ahem) Why does that matter to so many people here? I’m also a Kanye West fan. I’d prefer to be judged for that.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
if you haven't noticed
i am messing with you.
I got a pain in my side on this side, i got a pain on my side on this side. My knees hurt, my elbow hurts like LeBron. Most of all my head hurts, my psyche's hurt. I'm hurting all over my body!
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 2, 2010 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
larry and u-god are not.
I got a pain in my side on this side, i got a pain on my side on this side. My knees hurt, my elbow hurts like LeBron. Most of all my head hurts, my psyche's hurt. I'm hurting all over my body!
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 2, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, no I got taht
Which is why I dropped the Kanye reference. #Being funny fail.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Using Twitter hashtags are also a fail.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 2, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
WTF is a hashtag?
I’m not even kidding right now. I just found out what xtube is the other day.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Get a room, you two.
when i was in 9th grade i was the only one in my entire boys choir to understood my teacher
by BoeJouma on May 11, 2010 5:46 PM EDT
i'm already taken wu
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by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 2, 2010 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm thoroughly
uninterested, wu.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions
No offense, WTGtD
I try and separate my sports life from my sex life.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
If you had the chance, would you
Fuck Nick Swisher?
"mark kotsay had 9 LOB tonight. they should shoot him in the face in front of his kids." by MM June 1st
by South Side Expat on Jun 2, 2010 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
Literally?
God no. Figuratively for screwing the team? With a Louisville Slugger.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
lol @ the last line
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by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 2, 2010 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
You could kind of say that
he knew much of the “quality” was crap and he traded it. That’s probably one of the reason most of the prospects didn’t come back to bite the Sox. But I agree pick an argument. You are all over the place. If you are mad because of loose control in the past, fine. But that’s a different argument.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
I don't think
‘’talent evaluation’’ is all over the place. It’s an admittedly large brush, but the bad of his talent evaluation is, for me, really starting to outweigh the good talent evaluation, be in drafting, who he’s allowed to be drafted, who he’s traded, who he’s traded for, where he’s played guys, the minors or the majors.
Let me try this way: for me, the biggest problem for the White Sox this year and going forward is the GM. I think his time has come and that there needs to be a change. Whether or not there actually will be a change, I doubt, but that’s my thought.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
And you are entitled to that
opinion ChiSox. Personally I think the drafting is way better now and the real problems have been the offseason moves. 09 moves front and center.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
Good.
Now, let’s all hug it out so we can start drinking so we won’t remember tonight’s game.
And to be sure, I’m not going to hold having an ‘iffy at best’ minor league system against a GM if it doesn’t compromise the Major League club. My biggest beef with Williams is certainly how the team at 35th is managed and run, this minor league discussion we’ve had was a small part of my discontent with the man.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Re: Dave Wilder
Did anyone else make the observation that between his job with the Sox and his failed strip club, his methods of “talent evaluation” were suspect?
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
I would have to see the talent at the strip club first.
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god damnit.~by BuehrleMan
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by e-gus on Jun 2, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Couldn't have been that good; the club closed
At least someone followed my train of thought. Are. You. Ready? Hells yeah!
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
Lannin. Craig Stammen.
The Nats are better at drafting then are given credit for.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
those two are replacement players
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He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
the nats almost always draft in the top 5 too
they better be better than the middle of the pack white sox
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god damnit.~by BuehrleMan
sigh~by Tdogg
This is fuck.~by The Actual El Guapo
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seriously
what does 5 wins from ‘06-’10 get you?
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
Vlad was always a slam dunk in my mind.
Kenny is always trying to assemble “bounce back” kind of guys. Men who have chipped shoulders.
I believe Vlad would have been a great fit and would have put up decent numbers… Probably not to the extent he is in Texas, but good enough.
Basically, we would be a whole-hell-of-a-lot better than what we are now. We have too many bench players and not enough starters.
Bench Players: Teahen, Kotsay, Vizquel, Jones, Castro, Pierre, Nix, Lillibridge, and Ramirez.
By my count ^ = 9. I think it’s time to start trimming the fat and bring in some everyday major leaguers.
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by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 2, 2010 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
breakdown
2006: BA=0.0, CY=0.3
2007: Jerry Owens=0.5, CY=1.0
2008: BA=0.4, CY=2.2
2009: BA=0.0, CY=0.3
Totals: Guys we kept=.9, CY=3.8.
So over 4 seasons we would have gained 2.9 WAR, but not had Javy Vazquez and the 14.7 WAR he managed to get us. It was a good trade.
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
Not to mention Flowers
Might get us something some day, it’s the gift that keeps on giving. And the Bridge has given us some high quality photoshop opportunities. When your team is this bad, that’s something worth considering.
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by Grinder in Training on Jun 2, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I did forget
about the Lilli’s photos….yeah, for sheer entertainment value, that’s another win column check-mark….
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions
4.8 WAR for Young, -0.1 for BA.
My point was the error in picking Young to trade over Anderson. Not that Young is going to change baseball or is some transcendent talent.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Phil Rogers' word isn't good enough for you?
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
I understand your point and if you have issue with recent deals fine
but some of this stuff is made up and easily disproved. Fangraphs exist.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
Obviously fangraphs exist
But this is still baseball, and despite how amazing SABERmetrics are, they still can’t measure everything. The off-the-field stupidity counts too.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Damn right pods v. 2.0 did.
Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 2, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Pierre ain't getting no love like this:
http://www.fangraphs.com/fantasy/index.php/john-ely-impressing/
This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training
Please tell me your issue is Juan Pierre
I haven’t loss one ounce of sleep over John Ely pitching for the White Sox in the Cell. By the way who exactly would he be replacing? I expect Richard and Ely to decent in the NL what’s the point?
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no doubt, that's exactly how i feel
This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training
Yep
Just cause they are doing well for the Dodgers doesn’t mean they would be producing the same results for the Sox.
Also, Ely wasn’t penciled into the Dodger rotation at the beginning of the season, so it’s not like they thought they were pulling a fast one on anyone. He’s up as rotation filler because of an injury to Vicente Padilla and has done a great job in that role. Good for him!
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
oops, meant to say "Just because Dly and Richard are doing well for the Dodgers and Padres, respectively, doesn't..."
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
The point is, they could be doing well in our farm system or showing improvement at the major league level with us
And maybe improve their trade value beyond the point where they’re throw-ins for guys like Juan Pierre. Our system isn’t exactly deep, and we gave away what looks like a solid starting pitcher for a below average leadoff hitter we’re stuck with for two years.
he's pitching through the proverbial teacup. i hope it lasts.
who is it that hawk always uses as his example for this? oh yeah, i remember now.
do tell, because I don't get to hear the broadcasts
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
alright then
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 2, 2010 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
per fangraphs
his average fastball isn’t breaking 88. so i’m not worried just yet.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
Before the season
one would think that if the Sox scored 6 runs it would be a sure victory. Pitching and defense you say? Plus how many time have the Sox had the base loaded and it resulted in zero, zilch, zip. Purely anecdotal, but seems like a $h!t load.
"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain
It's not
just anecdotal. Their numbers with runners on are atrocious. Like, early 1990s fashion bad. Like .227 with RISP. Like .240 with runners on any base. .192 with a runner on 2nd, .214 with a runner on 3rd. Runners on 2nd & 3rd is right at .200, but with the bases loaded, they’re hitting .289 (with 2 grand slams). Bottom line, this team just can’t get the job done. At anything.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/split.cgi?t=b&team=CHW&year=2010#bases
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Well.. that will happen
When your manager lets Omar Vizquel bat with runners on base against Feliz, when he has right handed bats on the bench. We aren’t doing ourselves any favors.
"A common mistake made by baseball fans is to call a pitcher unhittable when that pitcher is not Matt Thornton." - Hardball Times
by Grinder in Training on Jun 2, 2010 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions
I think we have with the 2010 White Sox
a ‘chicken and egg’ hamster wheel of shit. Is Ozzie to blame for not pinch-hitting for Vizquel (despite the admitted shitty-ness of the alternative options) or is Kenny to blame for not giving Ozzie any better options? How culpable is Reinsdorf in letting this circus continue to run around?
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
Well.. in that situation Ozzie had much better options
When the manager uses the worst option available to him, the blame starts with him.
KW needs to give up the reins to Hahn and move up to a new position anyways though, after another horrible off season. Teahen, Vizquel, Kotsay, there’s just no way to defend that when there were so many cheap, superior options available. It’s a disaster.
And in regards to JR, the guys won a world series for him and have been competitive the majority of their tenure, so I can’t imagine JR thought they would just completely forget how to run his baseball team. I’m sure he’ll have to hold them accountable if it continues.
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by Grinder in Training on Jun 2, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Just for the record, I've never been of the school of White Sox
fans that hates Reinsdorf nor have I ever been under the mis-impression that he’s some cheap bastard. My concern with Reinsdorf is his well known-loyalty. I think that he is so beholden to Kenny/Ozzie for 2005 that he might not do what’s necessary and fire them should this continue. That’s what I meant.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
If I was into recycling sigs like some here
“I think we have with the 2010 White Sox a ‘chicken and egg’ hamster wheel of shit.” would be my leading candidate.
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game of 2008.
by NorthSidePaulie on Jun 2, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
no problem
I agree with your point above on JR too FWIW.
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by NorthSidePaulie on Jun 2, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Holy crap
When I stated anecdotal I meant me personally – thanks for the data.
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NP
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
i belive these numbers do not include the game yesterday.
the white sox have had the bases loaded 49 times and are batting .289 with an OPS of .841.
for comparison’s sake….
the twins have loaded the bases 84 times and are batting .179 with an OPS of .507.
(7 teams have loaded the bases fewer times than the sox. the twins lead mlb in loading the bases. atl and nyy are the only other teams that have loaded the bases more than 67 times.)
so it seems the problem is not loading the bases enough.
hey swisher...........you know.
True, but
no one else (save for Baltimore and I think Houston) are as bad with runners on the bases, not loaded (…..yeah, i think that’s coherent).
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah. i understand.
he just specifically mentioned the bases loaded so that was all i looked up. (plus i had a head start on those numbers because i looked them up recently because i have a friend who is a twins fan and he has been crying for weeks about how terrible they have been with the bases loaded and i have been telling him to shut up because at least they have the bases loaded and also that they have already won the 2010 world series.)
hey swisher...........you know.
now that was funny!
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player/manager Omar?
If Ozzie is given the boot at some point during this season, I would love to see Omar promoted to player/manager. I miss the Don Kessinger days. The game needs more player/managers. I think the league is afraid of the concept though after the Pete Rose fiasco.
If nothing else, it would help make the rest of the season a little more interesting.
by Wayne Nordhagen on Jun 2, 2010 10:43 AM CDT reply actions
so then the first test of his managerial skills
would be if he was ever silly enough to play himself?
by larry on Jun 2, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
That would be awesome.
Could he visit the mound and pull pitchers?
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 2, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
The Don Kessinger "days" is spot-on: he managed for 90 or so before he retired and LaRussa replaced him.
If that's all there is my friend, then let's keep dancing...
Pete Rose had my childhood dream job
Player/manager and his baseball card listed him as catcher/infield/outfield.
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god damnit.~by BuehrleMan
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matt thornton's fastball is good.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/matt-thorntons-fantastic-fastball/
hey swisher...........you know.
Sometimes I pretend the Sox are a team composed of only Rios, Thornton, and Santos.
So it makes sense why they lose so many games.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 2, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
But at the same time are composed of pure awesome.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 2, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions
this season has been anti-boobs.
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
China has fallen!
I have access today from work….! I think it is my god giving me a ray of sunshine for at least an afternoon…where’s the boobs?!
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
3rd base
I don’t know what they’re going to do. Just read a possible Mike Lowell trade to us on Trade Rumors. Didn’t say who we were even giving up in deal, jiust mentioned our options at 3rd since Teahen is out for a while are subpar.
uh no thanks...
we should not be in buy mode.
I’d rather bring up Morel
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by BobbySouthSide on Jun 2, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
brent is moving in. idle speculation
My wife is driving up here from Charlotte 13 hrs. With all our stuff and dog. Dare someone to find a more awesome wife. So lucky!
He and his wife are moving up here for what could possibly just be a month or so?
I’m just speculating on the extent of Teahen’s injury, but once he’s healthy, bridge goes back down, right?
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 2, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
of course.
it’s not like they have a house in charlotte or something. morel is probably moving into their apartment as we speak.
Yeah. I just read your "moving in" and his "all our stuff and dog"
And started fearing the worst. Although, at this point, what difference does it really make?
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 2, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Three things that are scary here
1) what does his wife look like? Brent looks like an 8-year old alien…
2) So the assumption is he is staying for awhile…ugh.
3) Little Bridge seriously has a following on Twitter?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jun 2, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Not only does he have a following
He also apparently has a heckler.
"A common mistake made by baseball fans is to call a pitcher unhittable when that pitcher is not Matt Thornton." - Hardball Times
by Grinder in Training on Jun 2, 2010 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions
His profile pic is a photoshop job.
Was that pic photoshopped here, or somewhere else?
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 2, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
soxmachine
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
Nice. Guess someone reads his blog after all!
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 2, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't get ahead of yourself here, the image could have been located with a google image search
Nobody can read a blog that doesn’t exist.
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
ftr, it isn't on the first gis page
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
all right, all right.
i’ll admit to being the asshole who sent it to him. he’s got a good sense of humor. just don’t mention how you don’t really like jesus.
And if he's just using it
to compliment his wife, that’s gotta just be for marriage bonus points, right?
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice. Well done, sir.
Glad he can take a joke. That particular joke is one he’s probably heard his whole career though. I guess doesn’t let it get to him. He is in the bigs now, afterall
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 2, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
i think lillibridge is actually married to
a 49 year old male junior hockey coach, or a catholic priest, i forget which
RIP Gary Coleman, hopefully you find what Willis is talking about on the other side.
What the hell is Versus, and is it part of my Comcast package?
Just read that NBC does NOT have rights to games 3 & 4 in Philly.
Or is this common knowledge for non-bandwagoners?
If that's all there is my friend, then let's keep dancing...
And... is tonight's Comcast+ the regular 285 or the religious 185?
If that's all there is my friend, then let's keep dancing...
the crazy numbers for comcast++ were only when bulls were playing
should not run into that any more… 285 the rest of the way.
Common knowledge, OPOS.
Attempted to look up which channel it would be on in Chicago, but Comcast’s site is a real piece of garbage.
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
Thanks, ryhtmh. Stanley Cup finals not on a network. Do the game preempt Roller Derby on Versus?
If that's all there is my friend, then let's keep dancing...
and rodeo, and minor league mma.
Good God. That is horrible.~by 67WMAQ
god damnit.~by BuehrleMan
sigh~by Tdogg
This is fuck.~by The Actual El Guapo
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and tour de france and something called sports soup.
mma – mixed martial arts
Good God. That is horrible.~by 67WMAQ
god damnit.~by BuehrleMan
sigh~by Tdogg
This is fuck.~by The Actual El Guapo
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you know. when dudes kicks broads in the face.
mixed
Good God. That is horrible.~by 67WMAQ
god damnit.~by BuehrleMan
sigh~by Tdogg
This is fuck.~by The Actual El Guapo
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really big in Compton convenience stores....
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jun 2, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
surprised i haven't seen kenwo reference it.
If that's all there is my friend, then let's keep dancing...
its real fights
not those actors in tights that he likes.
Good God. That is horrible.~by 67WMAQ
god damnit.~by BuehrleMan
sigh~by Tdogg
This is fuck.~by The Actual El Guapo
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Freddy and wrestling
He sure does like sweaty men.
"I know we sucks no remind me iam sucks you no have to remind everyone lol lol" - @OzzieGuillen
I don't get VS on RCN either
gotta head to the watering hole after I put the kid down.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jun 2, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
wow...the advance in horse medicine
“No billy, don’t shoot JumpinJack! We can just wrap the leg and stick a ruler in his ankle”
bssjr = my daughter….no beatings. those are only for the mrs.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jun 2, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
vs is channel 68 at my house, 174 in HD on comcast.
Good God. That is horrible.~by 67WMAQ
god damnit.~by BuehrleMan
sigh~by Tdogg
This is fuck.~by The Actual El Guapo
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it's a part of our comacast package in plainfield
so you should be good
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
Comacast. Excellent!
If that's all there is my friend, then let's keep dancing...
by Chiburb on Jun 2, 2010 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
there's no cast like a comacast!
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
This is at least the second time in the last few days that you've bitched about an inability to locate a channel on your cable.
Learn to use the Guide, OPOS. You’re embarrassing yourself!
"I know we sucks no remind me iam sucks you no have to remind everyone lol lol" - @OzzieGuillen
The first time I looked for it, Comcast+ was on a religious station. The next time it was on 285.
If they keep moving it around, how the hell am I supposed to know?
If that's all there is my friend, then let's keep dancing...
The guide! It tells you what shows are on what channels. It even lets you set a reminder to automatically tune in when that program begins, in case your memory is slipping.
"I know we sucks no remind me iam sucks you no have to remind everyone lol lol" - @OzzieGuillen
When I was your age we only had 2, 5, 7, 9, and 11.
And tin foil wrapped around the rabbit ears.
effin kids.
If that's all there is my friend, then let's keep dancing...
Upgrade, ya cheap bastard!
"I know we sucks no remind me iam sucks you no have to remind everyone lol lol" - @OzzieGuillen
that seems to be the common response to this news
This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training
Screw TV. The game is presented in hi-def theater of the mind on WGN Radio
In my unbiased, objective opinion.
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
Ahh yes, after the Pat and Ron show graciously moved down the dial.
"I know we sucks no remind me iam sucks you no have to remind everyone lol lol" - @OzzieGuillen
they aren't paying you enough....
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jun 2, 2010 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Those NBC announcers are freaking pathetic anyways.
"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah
by Ozzie Montana on Jun 2, 2010 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions
lineup
Here’s the Sox’s lineup for Wednesday’s game against the Rangers’ Scott Feldman:
Pierre dh
Vizquel 3b
Rios cf
Konerko 1b
Jones lf
Pierzynski c
Quentin rf
Ramirez ss
Beckham 2b
Floyd p
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
Not that it matters, but the Sox talked to Boston about Mike Lowell
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
Lowell > Teahen?
I know for a fact that, Lowell > Vizquel/Nix
Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''
so what?
i mean if he’s free, fine. but what’s the point of getting somewhat better for a year where it’s basically impossible to win 90 games? the fans know this isn’t a playoff team barring some ridiculous luck. mike lowell isn’t going to make carlos quentin stop sucking.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
Mike Lowell will put asses in the seats!
Televisions are so crystal clear, and Lowell is so dog ugly, that fans will flee to the ballpark just so they don’t have to see close-ups of his ghastly visage.
"I know we sucks no remind me iam sucks you no have to remind everyone lol lol" - @OzzieGuillen
by RWShow on Jun 2, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
it could, theoretically, make the games less soul crushing
you’ve got nothing, so you might as well put on a show for the paying customers.
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
showbusiness
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
The Tampa Bay Rays are hard to top
They give you good baseball, AND Hall and Oates.
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
you should check out a tel aviv lightning game.
they re-enact the parting of the red sea after every other tuesday game.
But the
question is if management thinks that 90 wins in necessary to win the division.
Charles Barkley & Terry Boers are the two smartest men in the history of human civilization.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
that isn't the question.
how would it matter?
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
B/c kenny himself said
that he still thinks this team, as currently constituted, has a run in it. He and Ozzie, despite their separation this year, both think this is a team that can compete, and if they feel that Mike Lowell is gettable and can help them catch the Twins (who they probably don’t believe are a 90+ win team).
It has to do with what Kenny thinks THIS team is capable of doing and what Lowell would add to it. I certainly don’t agree with him, but if Kenny thinks (even in July/August) that the team “has a run in it,” he’ll keep it together or add to it (just like he did in 2009 and 2007, to a lesser extent).
Charles Barkley & Terry Boers are the two smartest men in the history of human civilization.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Come now Queen
What do you expect him to say? We suck? I don’t really listen to what GMs say most of the time.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
I'd like, perhaps naively, all my coaches to be a little more
honest and not flat out lie to me, like Lovie, like Vinny and Gar-Pax, like Williams.
Charles Barkley & Terry Boers are the two smartest men in the history of human civilization.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions
it only ever makes sense to talk about the team truthfully
when the team is suffering from negative and incorrect perceptions. other delusions are a net benefit for the Sox.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
And the team had every opportunity to win in 09
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
I can't tell
are you pulling my leg? B/c I thought it was sort of obvious in June that the ‘09 team wasn’t going to get it together long enough to go on a run. Certainly after they blew those 2 games in Detroit right after Buerhle’s perfect game (granted that was July) I knew.
Charles Barkley & Terry Boers are the two smartest men in the history of human civilization.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions
No Im not pulling your leg
The division was winnable by all 3 teams and pretty much every projection system had the Sox favored to win in late July.
"Anywhere white people are poor, I'm afraid to go" Lawrence Holmes 670 the Score
I just never thought
they were as good as the Twins or the Tigers last year, despite all the projections. It wasn’t anything I could put my finger on, but they were so awful defensively and couldn’t hit with runners in scoring position that I just said to myself, “Uh-uh.” Just watching them play, outside of the numbers, I knew that team couldn’t and wouldn’t put it together. Just like I feel about this team.
Charles Barkley & Terry Boers are the two smartest men in the history of human civilization.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions
runners in scoring position?
what the hell. RBI are stupid. completely useless.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
(Sigh)
Not this again. It wasn’t about the RBI’s per se, it was about scoring runs, which all teams have to do to win. That team, like this one, couldn’t score runs!
Charles Barkley & Terry Boers are the two smartest men in the history of human civilization.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
why not just say that then.
it’s not like the team could it without runners in scoring position, either.
Because making me cite a
difference between the two hitting stats is splitting hairs, I feel. My POINT was that I never really believed in the ‘09 team much like I don’t believe in the ’10 team.
Charles Barkley & Terry Boers are the two smartest men in the history of human civilization.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
you seem to enjoy citing evidence
and yet continue to deliberately choose the shittiest versions of what is available to you.
No
you all just enjoy being assholes about it. Which is fine, but….
Charles Barkley & Terry Boers are the two smartest men in the history of human civilization.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Disagree.
When you are given the same feedback by multiple sources – who are fairly knowledgeable about baseball stats – you might want to reconsider your premise/conclusion. Just sayin’.
when i was in 9th grade i was the only one in my entire boys choir to understood my teacher
by BoeJouma on May 11, 2010 5:46 PM EDT
My conclusions about everything
haven’t changed! I think Williams needs to go and never really believed in this years team or last years! That’s exactly what I said and have said over and over.
Charles Barkley & Terry Boers are the two smartest men in the history of human civilization.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
The poll
and lengthy posting on this site from a few weeks ago had a fair number of people inditing the front office in the teams struggles, so I’m not the only one that has a problem with the recent decisions!
Charles Barkley & Terry Boers are the two smartest men in the history of human civilization.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
we definitely blame kenny
but blaming and wanting him canned are very different. we had a thread awhile back and came to the consensus that he’s probably a top 10 GM.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
And I asked earlier
how much time, how many decisions a GM is allowed to have and how many mistakes he allowed to make before one can reasonably ask for a change. I don’t know, what is the answer? How much rope is he allowed to have?
Charles Barkley & Terry Boers are the two smartest men in the history of human civilization.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
The answer, my friend, is blowin' in the wind.
Heh. Blowin’.
when i was in 9th grade i was the only one in my entire boys choir to understood my teacher
by BoeJouma on May 11, 2010 5:46 PM EDT
no points for that one.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
how much is Theo Epstein is currently paying
Mike Lowell to sit on the bench?
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
how much is Theo Epstein is currently paying
Mike Lowell to sit on the bench?
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
No points for repeating yourself,
repeating yourself.
when i was in 9th grade i was the only one in my entire boys choir to understood my teacher
by BoeJouma on May 11, 2010 5:46 PM EDT
boosh?
http://www.southsidesox.com/2009/8/3/973765/in-defense-of-the-general-manager
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
I've never called Williams a moron
or an idiot, I’d like to think I’ve been fair in my reasoning. As I said, the bad is, for me, starting to outweigh the good. And I don’t agree that his, “hands were tied” in the Swisher situation.
Charles Barkley & Terry Boers are the two smartest men in the history of human civilization.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
when the other 29 GMs know that you need to get rid of a player
your hands are tied and you aren’t getting shit in return
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
I meant
I don’t think that the Sox “had to get rid of” Swisher. He had clearly his career worst year after being asked to play out of position and in a totally new place in the line up. I don’t understand why people all around weren’t told to grow up (Swisher tone it down and other guys in the clubhouse to ignore him).
Charles Barkley & Terry Boers are the two smartest men in the history of human civilization.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
see? that's bad reasoning
the place in the lineup doesn’t matter. his position change doesn’t matter. his shite BABIP explained his season entirely.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
escpecially considering he had played 50+ games in center the year before and played it some at tOSU
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
especially*
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
So you completely discount
the mentality and nerves of players being asked to do something new, in a new city after being traded from the only team you’ve ever been a part of at the professional level? These are absolutely professionals with established track records, but they’re still human beings with emotions and fears and those things can and do play out. I agree with Steve Stone on this that the numbers are fantastic and a wonderful tool but they don’t tell the whole story.
Charles Barkley & Terry Boers are the two smartest men in the history of human civilization.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
i remember him acting like a little bitch and looking as if the pressure had gotten to him
but i’m not here to argue diathesis. if he couldn’t handle chicago, he should have been driven damn near to suicide by the pressure cooker that is playing for the new york yankees.
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
Hm. I think...
Two things.
One: if a player doesn’t read the papers then the increased media scrutiny doesn’t bother him nearly as much. There are heckling fans at ballparks everywhere you go. Does Swisher read the papers? I dunno. Maybe not.
Two: a solid player on a team of mediocre and bad players receives more criticism from the fans than does a solid player on a team of great players. In other words, fans and media would be more critical of Swisher if he were brought over to play for the Mariners or Orioles than if he were playing for the Yankees or Rays. On the Yankees he’s not asked to carry the offense. On the Mariners or Orioles he very well might. More reliance on the player = more scrutiny and criticism.
That’s my theory, feel free to disagree.
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 2, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
See, I think
Swisher is def the type to read his press clippings. Also, I wasn’t in Chicago that summer, so I didn’t see what the Trib/Sun-Times wrote about him. But they aren’t exactly known for trashing players…
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
read up
http://www.nbcchicago.com/news/sports/Did-Nick-Swisher-Give-Up-on-the-White-Sox.html
http://www.comcast.net/sports/russakoffrules/16562/ozziethrowsabrickatswisher/
http://blogs.dailyherald.com/node/943
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
Thanks.
I read ‘em. I’m not sure if you were trying to dissuade me from my theory or not, but those articles don’t seem to do that. In fact, they seem to support it. On a team with fewer real stars, he was likely to take the brunt of the criticism. In NY, amongst several All-Stars and some HOF’ers he didn’t have to. I do think that if he felt pressure in Chicago, and it negatively affected his attitude, it was from himself and his teammates. In NY, the team was better and he wasn’t pressured as much to do well. That’s my opinion
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 2, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions
No one likes failure, and some
guys just handle it better than others. Swisher didn’t handle it well, at all. He didn’t handle his success well, either. But he was still a real talent signed to a cheap contract who management totally gave up on in exchange for nothing. I think we’re best served leaving Nick Swisher’s tenure on the South Side at ‘clusterfuck’ and walking away.
Charles Barkley & Terry Boers are the two smartest men in the history of human civilization.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions
That shit is included
Every time you run a study, you are including guys who have been traded, whose mom died, whose wife divorced them, etc. Everyone is always dealing with shit. It’s controlled for. The talent is the variable.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
by colintj on Jun 2, 2010 6:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
your reasoning
looks ad hoc and related specifically to your intuitions about the team’s direction and quality. if you go back and read the FUUUUUUUUUU threads from ‘07, you’ll see how useful those intuitions turn out. i’m sure there’s some quote i made about how the team was doomed for the next couple years.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
how dare you try and put a Nostradamus cap on.
I got a pain in my side on this side, i got a pain on my side on this side. My knees hurt, my elbow hurts like LeBron. Most of all my head hurts, my psyche's hurt. I'm hurting all over my body!
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 2, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
ah- the good old days when wu made up 55% of the posts
Good God. That is horrible.~by 67WMAQ
god damnit.~by BuehrleMan
sigh~by Tdogg
This is fuck.~by The Actual El Guapo
reactions to Ozzies lineup 5/14(after an off day)
referring to u-gods post
Good God. That is horrible.~by 67WMAQ
god damnit.~by BuehrleMan
sigh~by Tdogg
This is fuck.~by The Actual El Guapo
reactions to Ozzies lineup 5/14(after an off day)
it's pretty well known which stats
are SSS approved. and it’s not exactly arbitrarily decided either.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
you may also wish to consider getting a thicker skin.
you’ll find you get much further both in life and on here when your arguments are supported by good evidence instead of shitty evidence.
feel whatever you want
it isn’t an arbitrary decision. there is a right and wrong.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
who cares what you felt?
how do you make a case for firing a guy who won a championship because your emotional state turned out to be predictive once?
and, in point of fact, tdogg is right. we consistently referred to the division as a tallest midget fight. the Sox needed one more player and got shut out.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
And who is at fault for failing
to get that player? My feelings are irrelevant, nothing any of you hear say is going to effect or affect me in any way, don’t worry.
Charles Barkley & Terry Boers are the two smartest men in the history of human civilization.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
*Here
Charles Barkley & Terry Boers are the two smartest men in the history of human civilization.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions
the '10 Sox are in the hole significantly more than
their actual talent dictates they should be. that’s the nature of baseball. if your luck is bad, it may turn out you need another player.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
they are set to lose a bunch of money
if attendance doesn’t go way up.
I'd rather have Rios steal 50 bases than hit 50 home runs. I want production.
Plus at this point,
for the management, it might be all about saving face and trying not to get fired. There’s also that to think about.
Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 2, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Just play Nix, for Christ's sake.
His defense is awful and offense isn’t much better, so it’ll be just like having Teahen out there… except with the occasional home run.
"I know we sucks no remind me iam sucks you no have to remind everyone lol lol" - @OzzieGuillen
exactly my thoughts,
we over payed for Teahen, knowing exactly what type of player he is. Nix is Teahen.
Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''
disagree.
clearly the white sox should play vizquel so that he has the opportunity to get more distance between himself and aparicio for most hits by a shortstop.
And isn't that the whole point of his existence?
Especially at 3b?
Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 2, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Clearly... but...
Viz has to, you know, play SS for that to occur.
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 2, 2010 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Lawl hey larry look you were wrong man.
Totally called out.
Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 2, 2010 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Whosh.
when i was in 9th grade i was the only one in my entire boys choir to understood my teacher
by BoeJouma on May 11, 2010 5:46 PM EDT
Whoooooosh, GD it.
when i was in 9th grade i was the only one in my entire boys choir to understood my teacher
by BoeJouma on May 11, 2010 5:46 PM EDT
Thanks dude. What can I say? I'm a graduate of SC's excellent education system
SC:
- in mobile housing units
- in traffic fatalities
- in SAT scores
- in ACT scores
- in infant mortality rate
- in persons below poverty level
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 2, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait, wtf. This stupid site messed it up and made a list out of it.
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 2, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
The site. Sure. The site.
when i was in 9th grade i was the only one in my entire boys choir to understood my teacher
by BoeJouma on May 11, 2010 5:46 PM EDT
You're one to talk, "Whosh"
"I know we sucks no remind me iam sucks you no have to remind everyone lol lol" - @OzzieGuillen
Lawl now WU gets called out.
What a day!!
Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 3, 2010 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Should be...
… #1 in mobile housing
… #4 in traffic fatalities
…. #49 in SAT scores
…. #49 in ACT scores
… #6 in infant mortality
… #9 in persons below poverty level
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 2, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
win more than 2 in a row?
lay off the shrooms!
Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''
Id like shrooms
but would also accept a sox winning streak.
Whosh.
by winningugly on Jun 2, 2010 5:10 PM CDT
how much you need?
I got a pain in my side on this side, i got a pain on my side on this side. My knees hurt, my elbow hurts like LeBron. Most of all my head hurts, my psyche's hurt. I'm hurting all over my body!
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 2, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions
if you made some tea out of a gram for each game and drank a couple of beers,
that would be ideal for watching this crap. I doubt you would be able to actually watch the entire game on those. You would go on a journey with your remote…
I got a pain in my side on this side, i got a pain on my side on this side. My knees hurt, my elbow hurts like LeBron. Most of all my head hurts, my psyche's hurt. I'm hurting all over my body!
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 2, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Does W-L-W-L-W-L
Count as a streak?
Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 2, 2010 4:35 PM CDT reply actions
Yes.
A poor one.
Charles Barkley & Terry Boers are the two smartest men in the history of human civilization.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions
It's my birthday,
win one for me ChiSox.
Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''
What do you want me to win for you?
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions
get in the way of picking up chicks in the parking lot?
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jun 2, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
why try to pick them up
When I can drive 5 minutes away and pick up a chick for a five dollar rock o crack?
I’m a sox fan, so you know I do smoke crack
I've seen you in my alley, I think.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jun 2, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I'll be part of that problem tomorrow.
Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''
Congrats!!
In a city where 50 percent of our High School population does not graduate… every single graduation deserves to be celebrated… even if the traffic does piss of an prematurely jaded social worker
RockValley here I come!
Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''
By the by,
it cannot be an “impromptu SSS meet-up” for the following reasons:
1. The invite was sent out over a week ago.
2. There was an invite sent!
3. It takes place in Cubs Park. Over my dead body a SSS meet-up happens in Cubs Park.
when i was in 9th grade i was the only one in my entire boys choir to understood my teacher
by BoeJouma on May 11, 2010 5:46 PM EDT
yeah i thought about going at first
but watching the hawks in the finals at wrigley with the bcb crowd is just an awful idea.
Whosh.
by winningugly on Jun 2, 2010 5:10 PM CDT
Exactly. Why on Earth would Sox fans go there?
The SBNation person responsible for this location didn’t do their job very well if this was truly meant to be an all Chicago meet-up.
"mark kotsay had 9 LOB tonight. they should shoot him in the face in front of his kids." by MM June 1st
by South Side Expat on Jun 2, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Ive throughly enjoyed this thread
He should be suspended. That is a flat-out, absolute disgrace to the umpiring profession, what this guy has been doing. West doesn’t care. -Hawk
Because he’s a f—-ing a—hole, that’s what he is. - Ozzie
It really is quite impressive how...
when someone brings up poor statistics and poor logic just how quickly and thoroughly the contributors/editors mass an assault in an attempt to change this person’s way of thinking.
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 2, 2010 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
it's hilarious right?
I enjoy seeing how excited U-God gets to gang up on someone.
I got a pain in my side on this side, i got a pain on my side on this side. My knees hurt, my elbow hurts like LeBron. Most of all my head hurts, my psyche's hurt. I'm hurting all over my body!
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 2, 2010 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
At least we're not Arizona.
That Chris Young is a fantasy BEAST!
I got a pain in my side on this side, i got a pain on my side on this side. My knees hurt, my elbow hurts like LeBron. Most of all my head hurts, my psyche's hurt. I'm hurting all over my body!
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 2, 2010 6:02 PM CDT reply actions
but even he cant score a run
I got a pain in my side on this side, i got a pain on my side on this side. My knees hurt, my elbow hurts like LeBron. Most of all my head hurts, my psyche's hurt. I'm hurting all over my body!
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 2, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Brian Anderson
would have made that catch. Fuck you, Chris Young.
Charles Barkley & Terry Boers are the two smartest men in the history of human civilization.
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jun 2, 2010 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Miller Lite found a way for beer farts to smell even worse.
Enter the ‘Vortex’ bottle.
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by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 2, 2010 6:15 PM CDT reply actions
Hold on
let me pour this into my 2005 world series winner glass. ahhh, much better.
I got a pain in my side on this side, i got a pain on my side on this side. My knees hurt, my elbow hurts like LeBron. Most of all my head hurts, my psyche's hurt. I'm hurting all over my body!
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 2, 2010 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I've got some vortex ML in my fridge, actually.
Even if it pours faster like they claim (who cares?) it still doesn’t stop it from tasting like Ass.
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 2, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I didn't buy it.
It does help keep the weight off though. Start drinking those thick beers and watch the belly grow.
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by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 2, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
No doubt...
What I wonder is, if it really is less filling, then that means that one can drink more before filling full. Drinking more = more calories
by Shoeless In SC on Jun 2, 2010 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I have a 2005 WS coaster
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by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 2, 2010 6:35 PM CDT reply actions
sure
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by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 3, 2010 2:31 AM CDT up reply actions
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