Hoist That Rag: A Pittsburgh Pirates Preview
A brief look at an opponent we play this week.
Offense: A potential lineup: Jose Tabata-LF, Neil Walker-2B, Andrew McCutchen-CF, Garrett Jones-1B, Ryan Doumit-C, Ryan Church-RF, Andy LaRoche-3B, Ronny Cedeno-SS, whichever Sally is throwing that day-P. Bench: Bobby Crosby-IF, Akinora Iwamura-MI, Jeff Clement-1B/being bad at baseball.
Pittsburgh Pirates Preview. That is fun to say. Alliteration rules. While you may think its hard to find many offenses worse than the White Sox', you just aren't looking hard enough. With 3.24 runs per game, Pittsburgh has the worst offense in the majors (somehow Houston has scored more, despite having a lower OBP and SLG). Jose Tabata has finally made it to the majors. This may seem impressive when you think he's only 21, but becomes much less so when you realize it isn't real. Anyways, the leftfielder with a 44-year old wife was hitting well in Indianapolis (.797 OPS with 25 steals in 31 chances), so Neal Huntington decided it was time for him to come up. He's fast with some gap power and a decent eye (.365 OPB for minor league career). If he can play above-average defense and get on at a .350 clip, the Pirates may have just found their new leftfielder and leadoff man for a few years. Neil Walker was the Pirates' first-round draft pick in 2004, as a catcher out of a local Pittsburgh high school. He moved to the hot corner in 2007 and just learned how to play at the keystone this year. That being said, his minor league numbers haven't been that impressive. If he can stick at second, his .763 OPS can play, but he needs to start drawing walks or he is doomed. Andrew McCutchen is very good at baseball. He is on his way to becoming a certain other amazing outfielder, and is what I hope Jared Mitchell becomes. Unlike Crawford, it does seem that Andrew could become a 20-20 guy very soon (I am kind of surprised that Crawford never hit 20). He has cut down on his strikeouts so far this year, but is also walking slightly less. So far UZR hasn't liked him in center, but small sample sizes apply here. Worst case, the Pirates switch him and Tabata in a few years. He is the new face of the franchise, and God knows they needed one. Garrett Jones is a local boy, graduating from Andrew High School down in Tinley Park (e-gus and Skanberg country). Jones was released by the Twins after the 2008 season, mostly due to not being overwhelming at positions they already had locked-down in the majors (first, left, and right). The Pirates grabbed him and he went on to hit 21 homers in 82 games last season. While no one should expect him to be a 40 homer threat, 25-35 big flies hardly seems outlandish. If he keeps his OBP around .340 he can provide a few years of cheap power for the Bucs, eventually forming a potent tandem with the soon-to-be-called-up Pedro Alvarez.
Ryan Doumit has some of the most frightening looking eyes ever. Its almost as if he's one of the demons on Supernatural. He hits well for a catcher (.781 career OPS), but cannot stay healthy (played more than 100 games once) and is horrible defensively (he has thrown out 4 of 51 baserunners this season). This should be the most running we see the Sox do in a three game series all season. Ryan Church's propensity for concussions may have stunted his full potential as a ballplayer. His career looked very promising in 2005, but an unlucky collision with the wall in his future home field would be just the first in a myriad of health problems for the young man. He's a nice complimentary player, the kind Pittsburgh should have been picking up all along. He's slightly above-average at best, replacement level at worst. Whatever power he has seems to have left him, and his career seems to be entering its twilight rapidly. Andy LaRoche is essentially the big return the Pirates got for Jason Bay. That trade just did not turn out well for them at all. LaRoche needed a good season to stay relevant this year, and he isn't having it. As soon as Pedro Alvarez is ready, expect this former top prospect to become a utility man. His glove is still good at the hot corner, so its likely he'll make a decent late-inning defensive replacement type. Congrats Andy, you're the new John McDonald. Ronny Cedeno is a good teammate, but not a good baseball player. I wish there was something positive to say about his game, but their really isn't. He's organizational filler.
Pitching: A potential rotation and closer: Zack Duke-LHP, Ross Ohlendorf-RHP, Paul Maholm-LHP, Jeff Karstens-RHP, Brad Lincoln-RHP, and Octavio Dotel-CL.
And if the hitting wasn't bad enough for you, the Pirates' pitching staff is giving up 5.56 runs per game, good for 28th in the majors (shame on you Arizona and Milwaukee). Over the past 5 years, Zack Duke has gone from good and promising to crap, back to respectable, and potentially has returned to crap. He just doesn't get enough whiffs for how many guys he walks (1.92 K/BB career). The southpaw throws a high-80s fastball, a slider, a curve, and a change. His curve and change are usually good, his other pitches aren't. Ross Ohlendorf is another perfect example of what is wrong with Pittsburgh's rotation. These guys aren't necessarily terrible. Its just that nothing good can come from a rotation full of fourth and fifth starters. Ross would make a fine back of the rotation, innings-eater type. This isn't what he gets though. He faces the same problem as Duke (1.80 K/BB). As a starter, he has a low-90s fastball, a slider, and a change. His changeup has been his only plus pitch in the past. Paul Maholm is the best pitcher on the team, but has the same flaws as the others. He throws the same stuff as Duke, but has a good slider and curve. Jeff Karstens came over from the Yankees with Ohlendorf and Tabata. Karstens tends to hop between the bullpen, the rotation, and the minors. His career K/BB and HR/9 are the same, which is never a good sign (1.32). He throws the same pitches as Duke and Maholm, just considerably worse. He has no true and consistent plus pitch. Brad Lincoln was the Pirates' first pick in the 2006 draft, over a lot of pitchers that were better than him (and Kyle McCulloch). They can't be blamed for all of his injury troubles. When healthy, he's been decent to good in the minors. He throws a low-90s fastball, a curve, and a changeup. Our old friend Octavio is closing for the Bucs this season. He still has his nasty stuff, but seems to be having a harder time controlling it every season. He still throws that low-90s fastball, a slider, and a curve.
Outlook: The Pirates are really bad this year, so if we don't pull off a 2-1 series I'll be really upset. But not surprised. Check out Charlie's work over at Bucs Dugout. The man cranks out solid articles regularly, even though the team doesn't give him much positive to write about.
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this is part of the year where we decide if we are going to be in it
regardless of the lack of times weve played the twins
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
Nice job. Ought to be some damn fine baseball this week! (AHHHH!)
You seemed to have omitted another dear old friend of ours, however.

"Call me rerarded" - ChiSoxQueen
I will be attending the Wednesday and thursday games.
very upset i will be missng freddy… but Danks and Peavy should do well. Last year my yearly road trip was to the boston massacre. So like any good college program would do- i scheduled a cupcake this year. hopefully they don’t end our season like boston did last year. I will provide a write up of my trip sometime friday or saturday.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Hopefully you already purchased your tickets...its a tough seat to come by out there.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Jun 15, 2010 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions
No cupcakes for this team (outside of the Cubs, of course)
At least the ballpark should be nice.
Fuck Tradition! - phastphil
by Grinder in Training on Jun 15, 2010 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions
ha
pirates totally pwned cubs
Look I just want to pass my last Microsoft exam and sleep with white women.
by Tdogg on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 PM CST
I'm with MM on this one. Some can pull it off for a while, but eventually
they all think with their pussies.
by Chiburb on May 11, 2010 1:11 PM CDT
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jun 15, 2010 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Jenks eats your cupcake. He eats it right up.
"We can't do it easy. But we may as well do it high." -The Cheat
by South Side Expat on Jun 15, 2010 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions
Good writeup as usual!
I like 2-1 sox
This is not early panic, it’s continued disgust with a situation we didn’t like to begin with. - Grinder in Training
yah thanx for the great preview again
i like your realistic optimism jack m. series win for sures (or should be), but probly not able to pull the trigger for a sweep. speaking of, are we still stuck at only 2 of those so far?
Look I just want to pass my last Microsoft exam and sleep with white women.
by Tdogg on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 PM CST
I'm with MM on this one. Some can pull it off for a while, but eventually
they all think with their pussies.
by Chiburb on May 11, 2010 1:11 PM CDT
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jun 15, 2010 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions
One
…unless you count the one-game Tiger “series” May 18 (rainout May 17).
by EddyStanky'sGhost on Jun 15, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Tabata....
….was called up from Indianapolis, not New Orleans
not sure why i was still thinking of the zephyrs
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
that's why i didnt buy a trapeze
I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 15, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions
reply fail, meant for comment below. \/
I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 15, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions
hey torii
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
that's why I didn't buy a trapeze
I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 15, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
trapeze

I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 15, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
oh my, that is funny.
"In a world where billions believe their deity conceived a mortal child with a virgin human, it's stunning how little imagination most people display."
by homesickalien on Jun 15, 2010 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Nice. Thanks U-God
Can we please fire this freaking GUY?
Buggin' Out: "Yo, Sal, we're gonna boycott your fat pasta ass."
Sal: "You're gonna boycott me? You haven't got the *balls* to boycott me. Here, here's your boycott, up your ass, you've got a boycott."
Amen
Can’t we hire Frank to do this, even if it is just the PR “we care a little” shot in the arm at this point.
"Yes, I am impatient. Yes, I am frustrated. But yes, I still do remain confident that this team is the team that can still challenge for the division championship and hopefully beyond. We've got a lot of good pieces, we just need to all come together and we'll be just fine."
- Kenny Williams
i dont see how this could hurt
any more then it does now

Walk start walkin, Frank get in here you big son of a gun!
Look I just want to pass my last Microsoft exam and sleep with white women.
by Tdogg on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 PM CST
I'm with MM on this one. Some can pull it off for a while, but eventually
they all think with their pussies.
by Chiburb on May 11, 2010 1:11 PM CDT
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jun 15, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
jeez
Look at the hurdles that he cites:
Pierre didnt play everyday last year. Quentin was hurt last year. Rios was bad last year. AJ’s in a contract year. Teahan was in KC last year.
They had a “lot of stuff mentally going on with this team.” Oh right. No other teams have to deal with this.
Weak.
His name is Rios and he dances on the sand
Most teams don't lose TWO games in a row!
That’s too much for a team to handle mentally!
Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 15, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
How in the Fuck does it matter
that Teahan came from KC (“a small market”) that he isnt hitting? The fuckin teabag hasnt hit well since 06. He faced the same motherfuckin teams for the most part down there as he is up here. The only difference is that the lack of production took him out of the big picture as to what is wrong with the Royals, and that what little he did have down here made him a household name with the moronic KC fanbase. Start with the fuckin strawberries and work your way up to the goddamn bananas that you love so much! sonofabitchshit!
Look I just want to pass my last Microsoft exam and sleep with white women.
by Tdogg on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 PM CST
I'm with MM on this one. Some can pull it off for a while, but eventually
they all think with their pussies.
by Chiburb on May 11, 2010 1:11 PM CDT
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jun 15, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions
swinging a bat with a hand injury can suck ass.
I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 15, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
...the BP oil leak...
the weather was bad on some days…my dog ate it…larry said some unkind words about the team…everybody got older this year…
I ran out of gas. I, I had a flat tire. I didn't have enough money for cab fare. My tux didn't come back from the cleaners. An old friend came in from out of town. Someone stole my car. There was an earthquake. A terrible flood. Locusts.
IT WASN’T MY FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD!
Cashing checks and having sex.
Reinsdorf and his cabal.
"We can't do it easy. But we may as well do it high." -The Cheat
by South Side Expat on Jun 15, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions
There was mud in my tires:

"I just want people to remember there's a guy in between these things."
by Teahenny Penny on Jun 15, 2010 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions
T, if you were in the front office, I imagine this to be you last week

Look I just want to pass my last Microsoft exam and sleep with white women.
by Tdogg on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 PM CST
I'm with MM on this one. Some can pull it off for a while, but eventually
they all think with their pussies.
by Chiburb on May 11, 2010 1:11 PM CDT
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jun 15, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions
"maybe the best preparing team that i've ever coached"
i love bullshit quotes like these. what the fuck are you talking about?
i wish walker had the balls to step down.
Cashing checks and having sex.
If Cheat had written this I feel like it would've had a darker outcome.
Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 15, 2010 10:49 AM CDT reply actions
just got my tix for the nationals game this friday
hopefully I’ll get to see straus, hopefully I’ll get to see a good game and not an ass whoopin’
You live and learn. At any rate, you live.
Nothing travels faster than the speed of light with the possible exception of bad news, which obeys its own special laws.
I'm pretty sure you can see his Quasar-like brightness from the midwest.
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
I'll bet he's as good as Mark Prior some day
"Then we throw down two bad games and I looked around the bench and I was like, 'God, everyone is in panic mode in the third game of the season.'" - Sox hitting coach Greg Walker, speaking with Sun-Times reporter Joe Cowley about the White Sox mindset after losing the 2010 opening series to the Indians
i'll be there, too. me and a buddy got some sweet presidential seats.
got them for saturday too.
Cashing checks and having sex.
lucky bastard
I’ll be slumming it in section 111 out in left field, this will be park #5 in my quest to see a game in every ballpark
You live and learn. At any rate, you live.
Nothing travels faster than the speed of light with the possible exception of bad news, which obeys its own special laws.
Gotta win 11 or 12 of the next 15 for there to be hope
Sweep the Pirates, 2 of 3 from the Nationals, 2 of 3 from Atlanta, sweep the Scrubs, 2 of 3 from KC…who knows? At this point, what else do I have to cling to really?
Thankfully, the Twinkies have a fairly tough schedule through the All-Star break that includes Philly, Detroit and Tampa.
"Then we throw down two bad games and I looked around the bench and I was like, 'God, everyone is in panic mode in the third game of the season.'" - Sox hitting coach Greg Walker, speaking with Sun-Times reporter Joe Cowley about the White Sox mindset after losing the 2010 opening series to the Indians
hope it turns out that way.....
but…most likely the twins will play .500 and so will sox, they will be in same position they are in now
Mark Teahen peed in my canteen.
by SavePeavytill2010 on Jun 15, 2010 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
nice stuff
and if you don’t mind, I think I’ll start using ‘hoist that rag’ as a phrase one might say to a cranky female.
by Trooper on Jun 15, 2010 1:03 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
thought the same
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
only if you play the song for them
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQlo5HxbRxk
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
have you heard
his version of ‘heigh ho’ from snow white?
it conveys the experience of dwarfs mining a lot better than the movie ever did.
This I need to find.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
boosh
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4_zaZ3utUY
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
that sounds amazing
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
Yeah just found it too.
Really, really good.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
slightly nightmarish
"A brief but trenchant analysis of Scott Podsednik
He’s dogshit."
by NYRoyal on Jan 8, 2010 8:56 AM PST
needs a video
Dan Patrick- "Why is this affecting you?"
Jeremy Roenick- "Its the Chicago Blackhawks man."
"slightly nightmarish"
Sounds like the soundtrack for the 2010 season.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
i think this guys is referring to us:
WhiteSoxLifer wrote:
Why don’t we just stop wishing for things on this website that are unrealistic, and real “folly”. Why not just say: Hey Scott Merkin, please stop doing your job, stop writing about what all other writers are required to write about, and become a tool of the fans. Tell it like it is, (like we see it) and then we’ll respect you…is that about accurate? You want opinion? Go read the blogs, they’re full of blow hards with telling it just like they see it in full technicolor sarcasm…this site is reserved for the MLB message.
Dan Patrick- "Why is this affecting you?"
Jeremy Roenick- "Its the Chicago Blackhawks man."
RE: Your sig
I really wish JR would have said, “Why is this affecting you, bitch?!” and then punch Dan Patrick in the mouth.
"Then we throw down two bad games and I looked around the bench and I was like, 'God, everyone is in panic mode in the third game of the season.'" - Sox hitting coach Greg Walker, speaking with Sun-Times reporter Joe Cowley about the White Sox mindset after losing the 2010 opening series to the Indians
I thought the other guy
Had a bunch coming to him. Patrick seemed to play the mediator as best he could.
by Grinder in Training on Jun 15, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
punch*.. although a bunch of punches from JR would have been even better
by Grinder in Training on Jun 15, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I interpreted Patrick as saying
“Why are you crying you big baby?”
I thought the other dude was more empathetic.
"Then we throw down two bad games and I looked around the bench and I was like, 'God, everyone is in panic mode in the third game of the season.'" - Sox hitting coach Greg Walker, speaking with Sun-Times reporter Joe Cowley about the White Sox mindset after losing the 2010 opening series to the Indians
Interesting
We could watch the same thing and see the complete opposite. I was pretty drunk though to be fair.
by Grinder in Training on Jun 15, 2010 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions
The other guy was an ass. Patrick's comments were fairly innocuous.
"Call me rerarded" - ChiSoxQueen
I agree, RWS. My view is that
Mike Milbury (the other guy) was uncomfortable with JR getting emotional and also totally misunderstood what JR meant. His ‘buck up buddy’ response led to his comment about making it to the Finals twice and not getting his own name on the Cup.
The important thing is that those of us who actually saw all the greats, getting to the old Stadium when the doors opened to get a good place to stand in the 2nd balcony and being part of the original “roar” knew exactly what JR meant.
"Having resumed drinking alcohol, I cannot for the life of me understand how I ever could've given it up." - Merrick
by gar ridge pride on Jun 15, 2010 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Kotsay and Q are basically a push right now.
and that is really sad.
Dan Patrick- "Why is this affecting you?"
Jeremy Roenick- "Its the Chicago Blackhawks man."
GayC
i mean KC to host 2012 All Star http://content.usatoday.com/communities/dailypitch/post/2010/06/kansas-city-in-line-for-2012-all-star-game/1
Look I just want to pass my last Microsoft exam and sleep with white women.
by Tdogg on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 PM CST
I'm with MM on this one. Some can pull it off for a while, but eventually
they all think with their pussies.
by Chiburb on May 11, 2010 1:11 PM CDT
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jun 15, 2010 3:46 PM CDT reply actions
GayC Johnson bull's beat reporter?
I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 15, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
uh oh
Harold Baines out 6 to 8 weeks
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/06/castro-to-handle-garcia-again-baines-out-6-8-weeks.html
Look I just want to pass my last Microsoft exam and sleep with white women.
by Tdogg on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 PM CST
I'm with MM on this one. Some can pull it off for a while, but eventually
they all think with their pussies.
by Chiburb on May 11, 2010 1:11 PM CDT
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jun 15, 2010 3:54 PM CDT reply actions
there goes one of our hitting coach candidates
He should be suspended. That is a flat-out, absolute disgrace to the umpiring profession, what this guy has been doing. West doesn’t care. -Hawk
Because he’s a f—-ing a—hole, that’s what he is. - Ozzie
Maybe Walker is "connected."
They didn’t say WHY baines is having his knee replaced… Think about it, it would make so much sense.
"We can't do it easy. But we may as well do it high." -The Cheat
by South Side Expat on Jun 15, 2010 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
Cashing checks and having sex.
by MarketMaker on Jun 16, 2010 2:06 AM CDT up reply actions 10 recs
fuckin A, this is brilliant
too bad its two threads down now, so it wont get proper attention.
His name is Rios and he dances on the sand
oh so very excellent.
"larry taught me long ago not to ask questions if I didn't already know the answer." -Chiburb
by homesickalien on Jun 16, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
well done.
"We can't do it easy. But we may as well do it high." -The Cheat
by South Side Expat on Jun 16, 2010 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions
This is horseshit.
Way to perpetuate the Italian stereotype, douchebag.
Man, when BP gets done with the cleanup, they need to send him down there. The amount of sand in his vagina could easily restore half the gulf.
by South Side Expat on Jun 8, 2010 1:17 AM EDT
So you are saying Italians lack intelligence, and WOULD call Walker if they needed a hit?
"We can't do it easy. But we may as well do it high." -The Cheat
by South Side Expat on Jun 16, 2010 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions
the best Eyetalian slam eva
was that scene between the great late dennis hopper and christopher walken in True Romance
Look I just want to pass my last Microsoft exam and sleep with white women.
by Tdogg on Mar 10, 2010 11:29 PM CST
I'm with MM on this one. Some can pull it off for a while, but eventually
they all think with their pussies.
by Chiburb on May 11, 2010 1:11 PM CDT
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jun 17, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
this series
Definitely need to sweep this series. 23-40, lost 8 in a row, it’d be the perfect time for a sweep.

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