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Lerew Reminds White Sox: You're Still A Few Bats Short

Free from the pressure of trying to continue one of the hottest streaks in team history and no longer able to beat up on the lesser National League, the Royals were supposed to provide a soft cushion for the White Sox return to American League play. The Royals sent some guy named Anthony Lerew to the mound, which should have further softened the shock of going back to playing real baseball teams. But Lerew shut the Sox down, which shouldn't be a surprise, really, considering the offense was hardly the driving force of the hot streak.

I think the general reaction to the end of the streak was something like: That was a fun ride. We're right back in this thing. Time to get serious about the holes in this lineup. Of course, Ozzie sees things differently. Asked what changes/additions need to be made to his club on Sunday, Guillen replied:

"Nothing. When I talked to Kenny earlier in the Winter Meetings and earlier in White Sox fest, I always liked this ballclub. I don't know why, but I did. I like the ballclub sometimes, and I don't like the players. I like what we have. When we was bad I looked at the lineup, and I showed the beat writers the lineups. We don't need anything. I hope we just continue to play [well]."

Ozzie likes the club because it's a National League lineup; no designated hitter and  about 7 bench bats (too many of which not only find their way into the lineup every game, but find themselves in the 1 & 2 spots.) 

The streak was nice. It's certainly more fun to watch (and write about) winning baseball than the other option. But the Sox need to acknowledge what happened before the hot streak. There's a reason that winning 15 of 16 games doesn't put you in first place, and it doesn't really have to do with the competition. It's that the Sox were poor enough to almost -- almost -- play themselves right out of any chance over the season's first two months. 

They were literally one loss away from me firing up my Blow It Up post. They're still the same team; Carlos Quentin has finally joined them, as well as Jake Peavy and Gavin Floyd. But they still don't have a DH, 3B or 2B they can count on and are still looking up at two teams -- two teams who aren't without flaws themselves, but two teams who are ahead of them, have been all year, and figure to try to make themselves better as the trade deadline approaches.

It's not time for back-patting over a nice comeback, both in the division race or the last two games which saw 9th inning go-ahead runs at the plate. It's time to get serious about actually contending in the American League Central, and that means we need some new blood in the lineup.

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Poor bastard.

gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok

by omnipotent grab on Jun 28, 2010 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

TY.

My morning is complete.

Oh, and happy birthday. One day soon you will be able to drink legally.

You got to gird your loins. Life continues. There are good days. There are bad days, but you keep hustling to survive. - Chet Lemon

by winningugly on Jun 29, 2010 6:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

dravecky's was worse

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jun 29, 2010 7:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

looks like a soccer player

but for reals in pain

Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
Thank you, thank you, SSS. Thank you for accepting people who act like retards, if not actual retards. by Mitch. on Jun 24, 2010 1:16 PM CDT

by Grinder Rule #42 on Jun 29, 2010 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

.

I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 29, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why does this series

smell like a sweep to me? Maybe I am just overly familiar with the Sox.

by daggins on Jun 28, 2010 11:09 PM CDT reply actions  

I liked this gem:
Ozzie likes the club because it’s a National League lineup; no designated hitter and about 7 bench bats (too many of which not only find their way into the lineup every game, but find themselves in the 1 & 2 spots

When you’re getting absolutely no offensive production out of your DH and 2B positions, replacement level offense out of your 3B spot, and your pitching moves back to the AL where they have to pitch against competent DH’s, shit starts to hit the fan again. Yes, the NL run was great, but the problems still exist. Anyone who felt they could keep up the kind of pace they displayed the past 2 weeks is maddening. I joked that it could happen, and it may still will, but I wouldn’t bet $5 of my money on it in Vegas of them putting together anything close to the recent streak they just had again this season.

Yes, Cheat. Time for some new blood. Time to open up the wallet and blow up the farm system again. I was with you, too, before this streak happened. I suggested when the Sox were 6 under that 10 games under .500 would be the breaking point for Williams. I was for blowing it up when they were 9 back, but after this recent turn of incredible events, it’s a good thing I’m not a GM. Now it’s time to improve for 2010 and beyond.

by Shoeless In SC on Jun 28, 2010 11:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Don't think you really need to blow up the farm system

Due to our DH being so bad, it’s not like it’d take much to improve by a lot.

by Grinder in Training on Jun 29, 2010 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

We don't need a DH

We have one. Quentin. We need a RF, preferably a lefty (Kotsay/Andruw is not the solution), and a solid 2B.

Beckham gets sent down, Viciedo and Omar split 3B duties. That’s how it should go down. Doubt it will, though.

by Shoeless In SC on Jun 29, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

this is what I was thinking

Q needs to DH

something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.

-MarketMaker

by blackoutsox on Jun 29, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly. Throw jd in RF since he wont dh or play 1st.

Dye is the missing piece.

I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 29, 2010 3:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

JD is worse then Q in the field.

Dye is the missing piece if he’s willing to spend 2-3 weeks in AAA getting back into shape and promises to leave his glove down there.

by coffeepac on Jun 29, 2010 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I disagree with that.

Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 29, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

with what, the 2-3 weeks or the defensive difference?

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Jun 29, 2010 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

The defensive difference.

I’m not sure he’d be much of a downgrade. I wouldn’t argue with 2-3 weeks.

Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 29, 2010 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

a dead frog would be better in right than jd was

and/or would be

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Jun 29, 2010 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

better than Q!

I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 29, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

congrats?

JD UZR
07: -23.6
08: -18.9
09: -21.6

Q UZR
08: -3.3
09: -14.5
10: -13.5

He’s working on a historically bad season right now, but JD already had three of them.

by coffeepac on Jun 29, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

considering his playing time

wouldn’t that be a second historically bad season?

by larry on Jun 29, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

But I’m willing to wait for the offseason to go for Werth to become our RF and let Q slide to DH.

"Yes, I am impatient. Yes, I am frustrated. But yes, I still do remain confident that this team is the team that can still challenge for the division championship and hopefully beyond. We've got a lot of good pieces, we just need to all come together and we'll be just fine."

- Kenny Williams

by justjc on Jun 29, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I LIKE WERTH

but we need help now.

I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 29, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Williams needs to so not do what Ozzie wants

The winning streak was gift from the baseball gods, offering contention in return for some sacrifices from the farm system. Williams needs to deal and bring in players for DH and LF. I mean, please, how ridiculous will it be to fail because you couldn’t scrounge up a couple guys to post even .750 OPSs in LF and DH?

I could be wrong, but I think they could acquire a couple of mediocre bats without giving up Hudson (or maybe even Flowers). Would Baltimore deal Luke Scott for Viciedo and Torres? Please?

by hitlesswonder on Jun 28, 2010 11:50 PM CDT reply actions  

I think they'd do that, easy.

I don’t think it’ll take Viciedo though.

by Shoeless In SC on Jun 29, 2010 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah Ozzie is really starting to piss me off.

Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 29, 2010 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just checked and Thome has a .927 OPS this season

You know…even with the decisions to have Pierre and Teahen on the team, if the Sox had simply picked Thome over Kotsay they’d be in first place today. Not by much, but still.

by hitlesswonder on Jun 28, 2010 11:55 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed.

He flashed some speed today with a triple (luck) to go along with his HR. Sigh. Seeing this around the same time I saw Kotsay pop up to the infield with the bases juiced and 1 out made me want to throw feces at the screen.

by Shoeless In SC on Jun 29, 2010 12:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

You do know how oxymoronic that concept is.

Thome flashed speed. FoxNews was fair and balanced. TheCip was sober. Cheat was lucid and coherent.

Would still shoot Kotsay and Teahen for Thome.

"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok

by DrEmilioLizardo on Jun 29, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Thome is finished.

I was right again.

I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 29, 2010 3:37 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

.397 wOBA and worth 1 WAR despite being a part-time DH.

Yep, good thing we didn’t re-sign that sack of shit.

"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah

by Ozzie Montana on Jun 29, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

woopidyfuckingDOOOOOOOO

He is old, and his back hurts like mine, and has clogged arteries. You want that cancer on your team?

I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 29, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

flagged for calling thome a cancer

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 30, 2010 2:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jug-eared traitor.

You got to gird your loins. Life continues. There are good days. There are bad days, but you keep hustling to survive. - Chet Lemon

by winningugly on Jun 30, 2010 6:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

+ VSSS

I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 29, 2010 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Teahenny Penny is not drugged up.

"I'm tired, I've got a headache, my bullpen blew it." -South Side Expat

by Teahenny Penny on Jun 29, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

From hydrocodone to Allagash White.

It’s gonna be a good one.

"I'm tired, I've got a headache, my bullpen blew it." -South Side Expat

by Teahenny Penny on Jun 29, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

VSSS

I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 29, 2010 3:41 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

agreed

Kotsaydh hasn’t been awful, but is still not a player who should be even sniffing the dh role. I sitll think Beckham’s swing is broken right now and might need to go down to the minors to fix it. Now that Chicago is back in the race, they can’t waste so many outs waiting for Beckham to fix himself. Still, who would replace him? Move Vizquel to 2nd, but now you have an even bigger hole at 3rd. They definitely need to make a move.

by shaftr on Jun 29, 2010 12:08 AM CDT reply actions  

dunn for flowers would be my only option. Im sure they would want some shitty low level reliever.

I dont see Washington doing that, and anyone more leaving the sox system, would be a horrible move. You know the sox won’t re-sign dunn. Just his bat would help us possibly make the playoffs, but he wont get us to the W.S. I just do not see this happening, unless KW overpays. Dunn is the exact opposite of what oz and kw sought out at the start of the season.

"There's too many (bleeping) guys on the computer. It's simple. I say that. Pete Rose never watched a computer. Rod Carew never did. All those hitters, they go out and see the ball, hit it and move on." - Ozzie

by usualsuspect on Jun 29, 2010 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

why would they want flowers?

when they just drafted harper?

I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 29, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

flowers is closer to the majors

you can never have enough catching prospects, see Texas Rangers
harper is probably not staying behind the plate, so they need an actual catching prospect.

by coffeepac on Jun 29, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

flowers isn't staying behind the plate either

and there is no DH in the NL

I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 29, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

forgive him.

he’s a white sox fan and thus would be unaccustomed to that concept.

by larry on Jun 29, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Thanks OM like i didnt know that.

Point being. If flowers was any good at baseball, he would be playing for the padres.

I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 29, 2010 3:47 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

One can never assume how much isn't known when you're involved

"Yes, I am impatient. Yes, I am frustrated. But yes, I still do remain confident that this team is the team that can still challenge for the division championship and hopefully beyond. We've got a lot of good pieces, we just need to all come together and we'll be just fine."

- Kenny Williams

by justjc on Jun 29, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

the gem within a gem
When I talked to Kenny earlier in the Winter Meetings and earlier in White Sox fest, I always liked this ballclub. I don’t know why, but I did.

i dont know why i like this team either, ozzie, you fucking twat

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Jun 29, 2010 12:36 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

those were the days

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Jun 29, 2010 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

The thing about the old days...

is that they the old days.

"I'm tired, I've got a headache, my bullpen blew it." -South Side Expat

by Teahenny Penny on Jun 29, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

that quote from ozzie is going to give me nightmares.

"Stop with all that home run talk. We win without them."-Darrin Jackson

by e-gus on Jun 29, 2010 12:53 AM CDT reply actions  

It was a mirage...

from the start. Yes, it was a nice ride, but this team is short a DH, a 5, and a 4 that can hit. But I’m afraid nothing will change, so might as well sit down, relax and watch it unfold.

But damn…that Thome situation bugs the hell out of me, and has since the decision was made.

How about trading Buehrle and Teahen for some left handed power and a prospect or 2?

by TrickyDickAllen on Jun 29, 2010 1:12 AM CDT reply actions  

3B, DH, 2B

You forgot to add LF

They don’t have enough prospects to trade to fix all those holes. I guess you could trade for Dunn to fix the DH, but is it worth giving up a Hudson for a half season rental when the rest of the lineup is that flawed? I don’t know who else might be of interest to Washington.

Might as well stay with what you got and pray that the pitching keeps rolling and Beckham wakes up.

"But this streak goes to eleven"

by ChicagoPete on Jun 29, 2010 6:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Oh, forgot to add C

that’s another black hole in the lineup.

"But this streak goes to eleven"

by ChicagoPete on Jun 29, 2010 6:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

kind of agree,

though getting Dunn would be very exciting, and would probably propel this team into the playoffs. The goal is not getting to the playoffs, it is winning the World Series. Is this team a World Series contender with the addition of Adam Dunn? In my opinion and most likely the majority opinion, absolutely not. So the rental of Adam Dunn for a few months would not be worth it.

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Jun 29, 2010 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

I dont agree,

not in baseball, NFL for sure, but baseball doesnt have many playoff upsets.

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Jun 29, 2010 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are you messing with me here, or are you serious?

The 83 win Cardinals won the world series just 4 years ago against the Wild Card Detroit Tigers. From 2002 – 2007 every year there was at least one Wild Card team in the World Series.

by Grinder in Training on Jun 29, 2010 8:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Way Wrong.

"Officially off strike...."

by Tdogg on Jun 29, 2010 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

not even close

everybody has a 1 in 8 chance in the playoffs.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jun 29, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

especially when we play in the NL parks

something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.

-MarketMaker

by blackoutsox on Jun 29, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

stop it.

the playoffs is a crapshoot. and dunn absolutely does not “probably propel” this team into the playoffs. it’s nowhere near that easy. there are two other teams at least as good as the sox in this division. that simple math says the sox have less than a coin flip’s chance.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jun 29, 2010 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dude if we fix all that

You might as well fit the team with rings…..

"Officially off strike...."

by Tdogg on Jun 29, 2010 8:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

With all the holes in this lineup

I’m thrilled that they’re back in contention, and I’m happy with that. I don’t see any need to mortgage whatever meager future there is to make a push this season.

But on the other hand, the future is so meager that hey wtf why not go for it this year. SEE YA HUDSON! ADAM DUNN WOOHOO!!!!!!!

He can play Ozzieball too, what a fit!

"But this streak goes to eleven"

by ChicagoPete on Jun 29, 2010 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Would it cost Hudson to get Dunn?

A one-dimensional player on the last year of his deal costs us are best prospect?

by Grinder in Training on Jun 29, 2010 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

there's probably more than one team seeking his services

You’re going to give up something of value to get him, especially if you want him now instead of a month later at the trade deadline. Who else fits that description besides Hudson?

"But this streak goes to eleven"

by ChicagoPete on Jun 29, 2010 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Viciedo, Flowers both have value

Although I think it’d take less than that. Maybe I’m completely undervaluing Dunn / one year rentals.

by Grinder in Training on Jun 29, 2010 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

rumor is they want pitching for him

anyone else in our system fit that description?

"But this streak goes to eleven"

by ChicagoPete on Jun 29, 2010 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think the more likely problem is

Washington might want to extend Dunn themselves.

"Officially off strike...."

by Tdogg on Jun 29, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

indeed.

look at what it took to acquire him in 2008. he’s paid a bit less now but that won’t make much difference.

by larry on Jun 29, 2010 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

dan hudson > micah owings

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 29, 2010 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Look at what it took to get VMart last year..

I’d argue he’s more valuable, and they got him for an extra year. And they didn’t give up any top tier prospects.

by Grinder in Training on Jun 29, 2010 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

an elite hitting catcher is MUCH more valuable than a guy who can hit but not field

"Stop with all that home run talk. We win without them."-Darrin Jackson

by e-gus on Jun 29, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

WELL LET'S GET HIM!

If KW is ever going to get permission from JR to slap on another $6mm in payroll you’d think it’d be now. He’s old and emotional, take advantage of that.

"But this streak goes to eleven"

by ChicagoPete on Jun 29, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

terrible bunting mechanics

you want to get the barrel of the bat ABOVE the ball DUNN!

I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 29, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

On the list of worries, LF is the least I feel like.

I mean JP has been adequate, he gets on base a modest amount. I would worry about replacing other positions first.

Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 29, 2010 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

no but with stellar defense

I can live with him buried in the lineup WAyyy down.

"Officially off strike...."

by Tdogg on Jun 29, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

you look up and down this lineup

and it’s a miracle that PK or Rios (and now Q) ever see a pitch in the strike zone. Their both having amazing seasons when you put it into context with this lineup.

"But this streak goes to eleven"

by ChicagoPete on Jun 29, 2010 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well. Would YOU want to pitch to Kotsaydh

With three men on base??? I know I certainly wouldn’t.

Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 29, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

that's why Dunn'd be nice to add

put Rios, PK, Dunn & Quentin together in the middle of the order and you can’t pitch around them, doesn’t matter what other detritus surrounds them.

"But this streak goes to eleven"

by ChicagoPete on Jun 29, 2010 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

here's an idea

DFA Jones, bring up either DeAza or Coats (both of them had 5 hits a piece for the Knights last night)

by CATDADDY47 on Jun 29, 2010 8:13 AM CDT reply actions  

Im thinking Jone's time has got to be about up,

.199 average now, just aint gettin’r done.

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Jun 29, 2010 8:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're Still A Few Bats Short

A FUCKING MEN

"....we have to find a way to win. And good teams do that."

Tomas Kopecky May 29, 2010

by ballyb on Jun 29, 2010 8:14 AM CDT reply actions  

typo- "I'm", not "A"

"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok

by DrEmilioLizardo on Jun 29, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Also I like:

The streak was nice……………………..
…………………………………………………..
…………………………………………………..
But………………………………………………
…………………………………………………..

"....we have to find a way to win. And good teams do that."

Tomas Kopecky May 29, 2010

by ballyb on Jun 29, 2010 8:16 AM CDT reply actions  

Welcome back to the AL!

"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"

by Brush Back on Jun 29, 2010 8:28 AM CDT reply actions  

Sox ticket sales through the roof... if you believe marketing

The Atlanta series saw ticket sales skyrocket… Sox are a hot draw right now… hmmm, wouldn’t have to do with 1/2 price tickets for the whole series, along with really nice weather. But I’m sure the prices had nothing to do with the extra boost in fans showing.

"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"

by Brush Back on Jun 29, 2010 8:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Yes half price is nice

but winning 15-17 tends to ignite a fan base.

"Officially off strike...."

by Tdogg on Jun 29, 2010 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

"fan base" equals

one smooth brother with a shark hat.

We will hereafter refer to you as “The Ignited” or “Kindling”, you front-runner, you.

You got to gird your loins. Life continues. There are good days. There are bad days, but you keep hustling to survive. - Chet Lemon

by winningugly on Jun 29, 2010 1:56 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Dear Kenny:

Do not freaking listen to Ozzie. Continue to hate him and do things now to spite him. That means bringing a real bat since we actually do “play” in the American league. You can’t fix everything just start with 1. It gets easier after that.

Regards, Tdogg

Buerhle was maddening but still good to see a decent start.
I think Q really is back.
I HATE Pierre leading off for this team. I know, not a newsflash to anyone.

"Officially off strike...."

by Tdogg on Jun 29, 2010 8:39 AM CDT reply actions  

I think what bothers us so much TDogg

Is that we hated Pierre leading off before the season started. We hated not having a left handed bat in March. It’s just baffling that fans can see these glaring weaknesses and the manager of a major league baseball team doesn’t seem to think it’s a problem.

I guess that’s why Beckham struggling doesn’t bother me nearly as much as Kotsay or Pierre playing or not having Thome on the team. It’s one thing for the execution of a good plan to fail, but to go into a season with a bullshit plan, that everyone knows will fail is just unacceptable.

by Grinder in Training on Jun 29, 2010 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

I get that.

But Beckham much like Q did before his turn around is “crushing the White Sox”. Folks have got to get over this mentality of its no bothering them as much. Beckham is the worst offensive regular in the AL right now. The off season is the past. Lets fix now.

"Officially off strike...."

by Tdogg on Jun 29, 2010 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well if we had options

I’d agree. It’s not like most teams carry more than two good second baseman though. And our backup second baseman is starting at third because Teahen got hurt. And I realize Teahen wasn’t great, but he was relatively mediocre compared to Beckham.

I’m sure if Teahen was healthy, Vizquel would be getting ABs at second instead of third.

by Grinder in Training on Jun 29, 2010 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Grind

He’s the worst. Anything is a freaking option right now. See you still have this 2009 Beckham image in your head. Let it go man. If he turns it around in the minors he can rejoin the team, sort of like a “mini” waiver trade. His wOBA for June is .251. Its not getting better.

"Officially off strike...."

by Tdogg on Jun 29, 2010 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sure.. if you believe Ozzie will play DV

I have seen no proof of that. And even in this worst of seasons, Beckham’s OPS is still higher than Lillibridge’s OPS for his career. Our options suck until Teahen gets off the DL.

by Grinder in Training on Jun 29, 2010 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

First post

which I’ve ever agreed with you ; )

"....we have to find a way to win. And good teams do that."

Tomas Kopecky May 29, 2010

by ballyb on Jun 29, 2010 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

oh crap

:-)

"Officially off strike...."

by Tdogg on Jun 29, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

im sure this was covered somewhere in last nights thread

but can someone explain to me why in the hell rios attempted to steal with no outs and konerko at bat? was he sent or was he just taking initiative? seems like he did this pretty recently too, like maybe on sunday, but i cant remember exactly.

Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
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by Grinder Rule #42 on Jun 29, 2010 8:44 AM CDT reply actions  

I don't understand the JP hate.

He’s not been amazing, and we’re not paying him to be amazing. He’s met, if not slightly exceeded expectations. We have much bigger problems than the leadoff spot, namely 3B, 2B and DH. If I’m making trades and getting better players, LF is the 4th spot in line I would tend to.

Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 29, 2010 9:05 AM CDT reply actions  

I hate that he's here.. not what he's done.

Although he has not exceeded or even come close to meeting expectations.

His OPS is .590, his career average is .713, his OBP is .314, his career avg. .346. He’s having the worst year of his career.

by Grinder in Training on Jun 29, 2010 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not saying he's good,

I’m just saying he’s a little buried in the list of positions to be taken care of. And I guess as far as expectations go, I just got pretty excited watching him bunt in runs during that streak. Down back to earth I suppose.

Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 29, 2010 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

You said he met, if not exceeded expectations.

Unless your expectations were: “worst year of his career by fair margin,” he has not done so.

by Grinder in Training on Jun 29, 2010 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

No, I'm saying I agree, I was just enjoying sipping the Kool-Aid.

Strike the meeting expectations part. Except for during the streak.

Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 29, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

DH, 3B, LF

I wouldn’t consider that buried on the list of problem positions at all. You can argue Beckham is a bigger disappointment at 2B (and maybe he is), but it’s not really a problem they’re going to address, at least I don’t think so. We have our 2B, he’s just not hitting. Pierre was a big problem coming in and everyone knew it.

by pooriejay on Jun 29, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

You think we have enough talent buried in the farm system

To get through more than 2 issues on the list?

Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 29, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe not, but we might have enough money

Could just get veterans on the last year of their deal that basically just costs us their salary.

by Grinder in Training on Jun 29, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Depends how dedicated to the team JR is really.

Does he want to go in the red?

Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 29, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

If JP weren't on pace for a career year according to fielding metrics

He’d be DFA material. Even with almost 9 runs above average in the field, he’s been worth less than half a win. You do the math. If his fielding starts slipping and comes back to his career averages, we lose another win.

by Shoeless In SC on Jun 29, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's fucked up

3 or 4 balls in the corner that I’ve seen since just before the streak began. And I’ve only watched a quarter of the games.

"....we have to find a way to win. And good teams do that."

Tomas Kopecky May 29, 2010

by ballyb on Jun 29, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Total zone likes him this year also

If its just a “hot” streak, so be it. I don’t see any reason to bury our head in the sand though. He’s been really good out there this year. Does it make up for that bat? I guess not much huh?

"Officially off strike...."

by Tdogg on Jun 29, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

The point is, he's been fielding above his career norms according to many metrics

and he’s still at what, 0.4 WAR? He’s on pace for roughly 1.0 WAR. That’s if he keeps up his fielding and his offense stays the same suckitude. I see his fielding regressing and his offense improving, likely giving a little more tug down on that 1.0 number. But we’re looking at the rest of the season. If you expect what I do, for his offense to improve and his fielding to regress a bit, we’re looking at a 0.4-0.5 WAR player the rest of the way. I’m confident someone out there is available to provide more than that.

by Shoeless In SC on Jun 29, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Viciedo - Dunn

Could us not playing Viciedo be a situation like “hiding” Poreda in the pen or keeping Dexter Carter down in a lower level in the minors.
It seems to be the Sox way of keeping the value of their prospects high before a trade.

Otherwise, why the hell is here? It’s pointless, it’s not like Kotsay or Beckham are blocking him with outstanding play, and Vizquel is 43, I’m sure he could use a breather once in a while. There are plenty of ways to get the kid in the line up.

by Grinder in Training on Jun 29, 2010 9:05 AM CDT reply actions  

Better get something special for Hudson.

A cheap pitcher with his potential is pretty valuable me thinks.

"....we have to find a way to win. And good teams do that."

Tomas Kopecky May 29, 2010

by ballyb on Jun 29, 2010 9:47 AM CDT reply actions  

hudson would not net braun

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 29, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

.

Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
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by Grinder Rule #42 on Jun 29, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

haha, thanks for modifying that statement, agreed

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 29, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

you know

a lot of people are talkin bout fielder, and though i like him, would he really fit on the sox roster? i mean is paying a guy roughly 20.9 mil a year for the next 5 or so years to sit around and be fat really gonna work on the southside?

Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
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by Grinder Rule #42 on Jun 29, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

id rather keep him longer if we did get him

something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.

-MarketMaker

by blackoutsox on Jun 29, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

well, fine.

but his agent is boras. even if this wasn’t the white sox, you have to assume when you’re trading for him that he’s going to at least declare free agency. an extension without him testing the market is unlikely.

by larry on Jun 29, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

And having a massive heart attack while legging out a double

would be a real coup for MLB’s “The Club.”

"They're a bunch of choir boys that I wouldn't want to be in a foxhole with." - Sun-Times reporter Joe Cowley on the lack of toughness of the 2010 White Sox

by tailgater on Jun 29, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, too bad he hasnt missed a game in over a whole season

hes chubby but he also takes care of himself. Hes also fairly quick for a fat guy

something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.

-MarketMaker

by blackoutsox on Jun 29, 2010 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's like saying, "She'd be really pretty if she wasn't

400 pounds."

He’s a major league baseball player fer chrissakes…he shouldn’t be a fatass.

"They're a bunch of choir boys that I wouldn't want to be in a foxhole with." - Sun-Times reporter Joe Cowley on the lack of toughness of the 2010 White Sox

by tailgater on Jun 29, 2010 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fat guys have no place in baseball!

"Strangely, Christ is a closeted homosexual…" - winningugly

by RWShow on Jun 29, 2010 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

indeed.

again, who gives a shit if he’s a purple, 400 lb martian, so long as he produces.

by larry on Jun 29, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bobby says you're a jerk.

"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah

by Ozzie Montana on Jun 29, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

"I can be as fat as I want!

As long as I keep mah beard long and my sliders brutal."

Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 29, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

A desk troll has taken up residence in one of his chins...

"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok

by DrEmilioLizardo on Jun 29, 2010 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Look at those knockers.

"Strangely, Christ is a closeted homosexual…" - winningugly

by RWShow on Jun 29, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

lost weight my ass...

jenks is the only guy who gains 30 lbs during spring training.

I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 29, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

i bet hes in better shape than you are

dude has a better uzr than pauly, too. his pop ups would be towering shots in the cell

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Jun 29, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love seeing him leg out doubles/triples.

Guy is really not that slow. I believe he had an inside the park homer last year.

"I'm tired, I've got a headache, my bullpen blew it." -South Side Expat

by Teahenny Penny on Jun 29, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I call it "fathletic".

Prince Fielder’s the same way. That tubby bitch can move!

"Strangely, Christ is a closeted homosexual…" - winningugly

by RWShow on Jun 29, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

i call it "not giving a fuck about stupid shit".

failing to do so is how you end up signing darin erstad – after all, he just looks like a ballplayer – or trading for mark kotsay – after all, he’s just great in the clubhouse. nevermind that they suck at the primary task you’re going to be assigning them.

by larry on Jun 29, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep

if you dont want prince on the sox, youre fucking retarded.

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Jun 29, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Absolutely. That's why most of us were (or still are) angered by the Thime debacle.

“We need to get more athletic” No fellas, you need to get runs across the goddamn plate.

"Strangely, Christ is a closeted homosexual…" - winningugly

by RWShow on Jun 29, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thome, rather.

"Strangely, Christ is a closeted homosexual…" - winningugly

by RWShow on Jun 29, 2010 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like Thime a hell of a lot more than Thome.

Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 29, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Much grindier.

"Strangely, Christ is a closeted homosexual…" - winningugly

by RWShow on Jun 29, 2010 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

well if thats the case

pull the trigger already reinsdork. his dick aint gonna suck itself

Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
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by Grinder Rule #42 on Jun 29, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

How much do we pay Jenks?

"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok

by DrEmilioLizardo on Jun 29, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

7 mil?

this is likely the last year of that.

"Stop with all that home run talk. We win without them."-Darrin Jackson

by e-gus on Jun 29, 2010 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think i was whooshed

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 29, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

Have they stopped taping?

Or will they be going through the trade deadline?

by Grinder in Training on Jun 29, 2010 10:11 AM CDT reply actions  

they were in the final stages editing

but now they might have to go back to production to film the dysfunctional family side. hopefully the theme will be why daddy left mommy where kenny fires ozzie, and the adult child (walker) goes to live with his uncle in minnesota.

Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
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by Grinder Rule #42 on Jun 29, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

OT: daley to give lebron a pass on the loop tax

and a piece of the parking meter lease
http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/06/28/would-cleveland-be-better-off-with-lebron-james-or-a-new-daimlerchrysler-plant/#more-37741

Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
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by Grinder Rule #42 on Jun 29, 2010 10:11 AM CDT reply actions  

cool sox article i found:

and im not going to even address the Beckham hate above. have a little faith people

Once a Dawg, Always a Dawg. How Sweet it is!

by oneloyaldawg on Jun 29, 2010 10:42 AM CDT reply actions  

i'm officially excited for a reality show

also, passan managed a couple of really awkward phrasings and perhaps one sentence that truly did not mean anything. i still liked the article, but really:

They are refreshing and infuriating, not taking themselves too seriously but not taking themselves seriously enough, either.
Guillen took a missile-wrecked vessel and guided it toward calm waters. The players needed to patch up the holes, rejigger the systems and prepare to head back into the murky waters where Minnesota and Detroit exist instead of Cleveland and Kansas City.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jun 29, 2010 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

ah the serg
"It’s gonna be like ‘Jersey Shore.’ They can call it ‘Navy Pier.’ "

Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
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by Grinder Rule #42 on Jun 29, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

i'll show a little faith if you show your assets again :p

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 29, 2010 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sox could use a nice run differential game tonight

Lets go boys +6 or more….

"Officially off strike...."

by Tdogg on Jun 29, 2010 11:29 AM CDT reply actions  

haven't you been reading the comments?

two game losing streak. they’re fucked.

by larry on Jun 29, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

FIRE SALE!

Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 29, 2010 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

haven't you read fangraph's coverage of the twins yesterday/today

they won the world series already

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 29, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

We?

You got to gird your loins. Life continues. There are good days. There are bad days, but you keep hustling to survive. - Chet Lemon

by winningugly on Jun 29, 2010 1:58 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

oui?

no oui are NOT french. we’re american, cuz youre in america

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Jun 29, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

You know, just to put this in there,

I had a whole mess of crepes this morning. They’re just like pancakes, maybe even better.

Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 29, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep! he did it , he broke my arm!

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Jun 29, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

The room's starting to spin...

cuz…cuz all the gayness

Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 29, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

i just want you to know,

that i spread my butt cheeks as Mike Honcho

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Jun 29, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good question.

"Strangely, Christ is a closeted homosexual…" - winningugly

by RWShow on Jun 29, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

How far this place has fallen where rampant sexism isn't green.

"Boozer's dumb ass jumped. So I dunked on his ass."-Joakim Noah

by Ozzie Montana on Jun 29, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll rec to that.

Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 29, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Time to shake the sand out of our privates and move on.

"They're a bunch of choir boys that I wouldn't want to be in a foxhole with." - Sun-Times reporter Joe Cowley on the lack of toughness of the 2010 White Sox

by tailgater on Jun 29, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

We're like unmedicated manic-depressives

Our lows may be low but man, our highs are fricking high

by joewho112 on Jun 29, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

We accept the finger of fate.

"We can't do it easy. But we may as well do it high." -The Cheat

by South Side Expat on Jun 29, 2010 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

---

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 29, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

.

"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok

by DrEmilioLizardo on Jun 29, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Let's make a deal

Torres, Pena and R. Williams to Pirates for Evan Meek, Andy LaRoche.

Then we trade Jenks and Viciedo to Houston for Berkman

LaRoche (only 26) becomes our 3B – Meek (only 25) is another outstanding arm
in the bullpen. Putz/Thornton take over closer job, while Meek takes over Putz role. Teahen moves to utility role where he belongs. Berkman and Paulie alternate 1B/DH. Andruw gets DFA.

by teepee14 on Jun 29, 2010 12:10 PM CDT reply actions  

To start

Why exactly does Houston need Jenks?

"Officially off strike...."

by Tdogg on Jun 29, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

LaRoche is getting no time since they brought up Alvarez. He’s young, gettable and would finally give us a 3B who can hit and field the position.

by teepee14 on Jun 29, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think he meant trade for LaRoche

which is a bad idea.

"Stop with all that home run talk. We win without them."-Darrin Jackson

by e-gus on Jun 29, 2010 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

When I play that game,

I alter the rosters so the Hawks still have Chelios, Belfour, and Roenick.

Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 29, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was the first year The Eagle left

I remember my dad explaining the whole thing to me, Eddie was my favorite

by 815Sox on Jun 29, 2010 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

nevermind

97 was when he signed with the Stars, he was traded to the Sharks the year before

by 815Sox on Jun 29, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

To continue

Jenks is much better than Lidstrom or Lyon. And with Berkman’s salary gone – they can keep him until they improve their team and win again.

by teepee14 on Jun 29, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chill the fuck out.

fin

ITHOUGHTGAZELLEWASGOOD -Trooper

by homesickalien on Jun 29, 2010 12:18 PM CDT reply actions  

i dunno.

reading whining about the sox is more entertaining than reading whining about the whiners

by Trooper on Jun 29, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't breathe

I CAN’T BREATHE

signature

by billyok on Jun 29, 2010 12:30 PM CDT reply actions  

One sweet release, coming up!

He calls it a ’Thanatron"

"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok

by DrEmilioLizardo on Jun 29, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

"I like the ballclub sometimes, and I don't like the players."

I feel exactly the same way, except the opposite. Sometimes. Sometimes not.

by The Actual El Guapo on Jun 29, 2010 1:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Kinda like how

Larry loves SSS, but hates the posters!

Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jun 29, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

"larry".

You got to gird your loins. Life continues. There are good days. There are bad days, but you keep hustling to survive. - Chet Lemon

by winningugly on Jun 29, 2010 2:02 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

"larry" loves LSS

I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 29, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

in his butt

I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 29, 2010 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

hay fever

can’t shift it – eyes been streaming for a week now, never normally bothers me.
any easy remedies? the tablets I got from the pharmacy didn’t work at all.
heat wave here – I can’t cope with it

by hoodlight on Jun 29, 2010 2:08 PM CDT reply actions  

try zyrtec?

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 29, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

pills I have are loratadine 80p a packet

geezer in the chemist said they would sort my eyes out – i look like i’m crying all the time. did not work though

by hoodlight on Jun 29, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I go with Allegra myself

And used to have allergy shots once a week. The other allergy medicines were all useless for me. Allegra is the first one that worked. Claritin didn’t do a damn thing.

Temporary non-medicine relief.. a cool wet towel on my eyes helps some.. although I’m no doctor, so take any advice with a grain of salt.

by Grinder in Training on Jun 29, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Used prednisone before (it's used for asthma by itself)

If that’s part of the requirement, I’ll take the allergy medicine w/o horrible side effects, thank you very much. Of course it doesn’t say what dosage of the steroid he had to use, if it was a smaller dose, maybe it’s not as bad.

Thanks for the link though, very interesting, if my allergies were still as bad as they were when I was a kid, I’d probably look into it no matter what I had to use with it. If they can figure out a way to make this work, without having to use steroids in combination, that sure would be a game changer.

by Grinder in Training on Jun 29, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

hoodie, you are taking your WC suckfest too jard.

Get some comfort from The Missus.

Oops. Stan, perhaps. We Yanks can’t always ease your pain caused by Germans.

You got to gird your loins. Life continues. There are good days. There are bad days, but you keep hustling to survive. - Chet Lemon

by winningugly on Jun 29, 2010 4:03 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

mobile posting sucks.

You got to gird your loins. Life continues. There are good days. There are bad days, but you keep hustling to survive. - Chet Lemon

by winningugly on Jun 29, 2010 4:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

OPOS'd

"Strangely, Christ is a closeted homosexual…" - winningugly

by RWShow on Jun 29, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

there needs to be a SSS app

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Jun 29, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Jard" is German, correct?

I assume that, like everything else in German, it means either “I hate Jews” or “you better watch your ass, France/Poland.”

by The Actual El Guapo on Jun 29, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

im going with Jackin' Dayan

but its hard for anything to take off when he plays once a week.

"Stop with all that home run talk. We win without them."-Darrin Jackson

by e-gus on Jun 29, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is Bay of Pigs or some variation taken?

"I'm tired, I've got a headache, my bullpen blew it." -South Side Expat

by Teahenny Penny on Jun 29, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think we could work with this

"Stop with all that home run talk. We win without them."-Darrin Jackson

by e-gus on Jun 29, 2010 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmm

i think this just goes to show what a half century trade embargo does to free association.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jun 29, 2010 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

pimptank is just more fun to say than brown bear or jackin dayan

but we all know what they mean.

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Jun 29, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

why Brown Bear?

it makes him sound like a turd.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jun 29, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

i like it the Vizquel on the bench.

"Stop with all that home run talk. We win without them."-Darrin Jackson

by e-gus on Jun 29, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

What a lousy lineup.

KW has to see that thing isn’t sufficient. Doesn’t he?

Maybe he’s just counting on Teahen coming back healthy to give the team a lift.

by hitlesswonder on Jun 29, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Our only hope may be pulling a fast one on Selig

And trading leagues with the Cubs. I don’t like NL ball, but our batshit crazy manager does and I do like our results against them.

"Yes, I am impatient. Yes, I am frustrated. But yes, I still do remain confident that this team is the team that can still challenge for the division championship and hopefully beyond. We've got a lot of good pieces, we just need to all come together and we'll be just fine."

- Kenny Williams

by justjc on Jun 29, 2010 3:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Zumaya took the cake, but Utley's thumb, Victor Martinez and Dustin Pedroia will probably have the worst effects on their teams

"Yes, I am impatient. Yes, I am frustrated. But yes, I still do remain confident that this team is the team that can still challenge for the division championship and hopefully beyond. We've got a lot of good pieces, we just need to all come together and we'll be just fine."

- Kenny Williams

by justjc on Jun 29, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have VMart, Pedroia, Buchholz, and Heyward on my fantasy team.

The Troll Toll Collectors are in for a rough couple weeks.

"I'm tired, I've got a headache, my bullpen blew it." -South Side Expat

by Teahenny Penny on Jun 29, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

and thats really all that matters in fantasy baseball

something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.

-MarketMaker

by blackoutsox on Jun 30, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mommy!

Take me off this roller coaster! Wah!

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain

by phastphil on Jun 29, 2010 3:30 PM CDT reply actions  

i'm typing this with my left hand, which i cut off at the height of my panic

it’s hard to type using a hand that you’re holding in your other only hand

you made me do this white sox baseball!!

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by billyok on Jun 29, 2010 3:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Would that leave Two True Outcomes?

You got to gird your loins. Life continues. There are good days. There are bad days, but you keep hustling to survive. - Chet Lemon

by winningugly on Jun 29, 2010 4:07 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

One would be plenty.

"They're a bunch of choir boys that I wouldn't want to be in a foxhole with." - Sun-Times reporter Joe Cowley on the lack of toughness of the 2010 White Sox

by tailgater on Jun 29, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

bzzzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Jun 29, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

reply fial

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Jun 29, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

HAHA NOOBIE

I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 29, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

stands for no boobie

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Jun 29, 2010 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

it does!

I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 29, 2010 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

booooooooo

I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 29, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

speekin of dhez

would the cubs be interested in sending D Lee over? Make Paul the full time DH? Do we even want Lee? Flame away.

I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 29, 2010 6:05 PM CDT reply actions  

steve stone must be on shrooms

zambrano playing 1b???

I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 29, 2010 6:13 PM CDT reply actions  

explain your shit

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Jun 29, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

when and where did you hear this?

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Jun 29, 2010 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

just now

I gangbang so hard, it would bring back curls.

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jun 29, 2010 6:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I heard that too

wasnt sure if he was just trying to rile them up

something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.

-MarketMaker

by blackoutsox on Jun 29, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

He said it Monday morning with Mully and Hanley too. He sounded serious, but he can't be.

Or, Hawk has finally turned him crazy.

"Strangely, Christ is a closeted homosexual…" - winningugly

by RWShow on Jun 29, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

play 1b or sell cars

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jun 30, 2010 2:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

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