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This Week in White Sox Minor League Baseball

This week:

  • Dan Hudson likely made his final minor league appearance, at least for this season.  Fangraphs does the math on his time at Charlotte and what to expect: "Logging 93.1 innings, he’s got 10.4 K/9, 3 BB/9, 1.3 HR/9 and a park-and-luck-adjusted FIP of 2.90. Hudson’s work with the Knights translates to a 4.51 big league FIP, with 8.7 K/9, 3.9 BB/9 and 1.2 HR/9. CHONE’s updated rest-of-season projection for Hudson is similar — a 4.60 neutralized ERA, with 7.9 K/9, 3.7 BB/9 and 1.4 HR/9."  I think that strikeout rate is aggressive but he is certainly capable of providing league average output.  He tends to get behind batters, though, which results in him throwing lots of pitches, so expect to see a lot of the bullpen in his starts.  Hopefully whoever pitches the day before him - currently Gavin Floyd - can get deep into games so Ozzie doesn't have to be overly reliant on the back-end of Tony Linethreet. 
  • Carlos Torres illustrates the role timing and luck can play in a marginal prospect's career.  If Jake Peavy had gotten hurt the day before - or even if the White Sox were playing a day game - he probably would have gotten the call-up instead of the even more marginal Jeffrey Marquez.  But Torres was pitching the same night and thus was unavailable to provide the interim long-man option Marquez could.  Careers have been jump-started by fortuitous call-ups.  Marquez blew his chance to impress with a weak 9th inning against the bottom of the Royals order - perhaps Torres wouldn't have done much better. At least Kenny Williams can now say all the players from the Swisher trade have made it to the majors.
  • Brent Morel: .282/.324/.382.
  • The dearth of talent on the Barons is rather obvious, with one scout saying: "There’s nothing to see here on the field, no big leaguers among hitters."  We also learned that one non-MLB hitter, C.J. Retherford, prior to his demotion, also had a dust-up with Charlotte's manager - which is not something you want to do when you're hitting like he has.
  • Juan Silverio continues to confound.  Pushed to Bristol in 2008 a year after signing, he was bad: .228/.265/.321.  "Demoted" the following year to the White Sox' Dominican Summer League affiliate because an age discrepancy prevented him from getting a work visa, he raked against the inferior competition: .321/.366/.547.  Visa issues resolved, the White Sox assigned him to Kannapolis to open this season, where he was atrocious - .128/.169/.218 - before getting the boot to extended spring training.  Now he's with Great Falls and, once again, feasting on weak competition: .321/.365/.551.  Because of Bell's comments, we can be sure that his listed birth date of April 19, 1991 is not correct.  What we don't know is how off it is.  Tack on another year and it probably doesn't affect his status (which isn't high to begin with even in this organization).  But tack on two or more, and it's a problem.
  • Chris Sale: 3 IP, 0 H, 1 BB, 3 K.  

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by Chiburb on Jul 10, 2010 8:57 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Tony Linethreet got an all star snub...FNS

So it looks like we have absolutely no hitting in the minors…maybe Flowers figures it out, but ugh, it looks bad.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 10, 2010 9:27 AM CDT reply actions  

Do you project Morel staying at 3B?

Does he have enough power to be of value there?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 10, 2010 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

he's certainly staying at third.

i think looking at a single skill is the wrong way to evaluate a player. he will certainly provide excellent defense at third. if he keeps his average up (and thus his OBP up), those skills should make him valuable enough to play in the majors.

by larry on Jul 10, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks...we've got teabag blocking him now, unless he is moved

or put on the bench. Do you see Morel having a shot at making the big league club next year?

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 10, 2010 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

in a vaccum, yes.

the white sox have been very aggressive in pushing their prospects. but there’s a lot that’s out of his control and/or unknown at this point. if both viciedo and teahen are on the depth chart at third, his “shot” would be just a courtesy. i think we’ll need to see how things shake out in the offseason with roster moves. i’d put his ETA more mid next season – a full year of AAA certainly wouldn’t hurt him – and, at that point, probably in a utility role, which they seem to be grooming him for with his occasional appearance at SS.

by larry on Jul 10, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

On the whole the sox seem to have a lot of ML ready/or ML ready close infield prospects

If the pan out, that’s another thing, but on paper not too bad.

Flowers, Viciedo, Bacon and Morel….with Ramirez a bargain at SS for a couple of years.

Is there anyone in the system that can project as a power hitting corner outfielder? That seems like a big hole.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 10, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

you're assuming he packs on some muscle?

he also seems to be getting a little old for A ball? This is his 5th year in the minors, even though he missed 09 – but he isn’t showing that much growth in power.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 10, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

old for A ball? wha?

yes, i’d certainly expect all players to develop fully at 21, particularly after missing over two years.

by larry on Jul 10, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oooof not much of value to offer if buying

Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game of 2008.

by NorthSidePaulie on Jul 10, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

youdaman

I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok

by mick10 on Jul 10, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the excellent update, larry.

I particularly like the bit about Torres. I think it was Woody Allen who said, “80% of success is showing up.” If you’re not even invited to show-up because of a fluke in timing….

by palehose67 on Jul 10, 2010 11:55 AM CDT reply actions  

Buddy Bell

has worked wonders with our system.

"....we have to find a way to win. And good teams do that."

Tomas Kopecky May 29, 2010

by ballyb on Jul 10, 2010 12:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Does Buddy have much of an impact on the draft?

I know he heads up the minors, but I would think the scouts and GM’s office would handle almost everything having to do with who ends up in our system. You can’t polish a turd into a diamond.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 10, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

not really much impact.

and this misses the point a bit, too. sergio santos is all buddy bell. he is a success. if either daniel hudson or dayan viciedo become decent major leaguers, this will be a good rookie class for the white sox. if both do, this would be wildly successful. and none of these players were in the organization until barely two years ago.

of course things look lean now. he didn’t start with much. he gets essentially no latin american amateur free agents. his top pick in 2008 is in the majors. his top pick in 2009 got hurt. his other successes are now (or will be tomorrow) on the major league roster.

by larry on Jul 10, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

"...Hudson’s work with the Knights translates to a 4.51 big league FIP"

Peavy’s FIP was 4.06, Freddy is at 4.56, MB is 4.17

Keep your fingers crossed on Hudson, would be awesome if he can produce as projected.

"But this streak goes to eleven"

by ChicagoPete on Jul 10, 2010 12:56 PM CDT reply actions  

thank you for the examples, makes sense now.

"from the Chi, the city of hella haters, where we keep rising to the top like elevators. Hi haters I'm back off hiatus." - grammy family

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 10, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

as long as the white sox can continue to field some of these reclamation projects it lessens the need for a great farm feeder system

that said, things don’t look all that great. They haven’t looked great for years now but it hasn’t stopped the club from putting together some fairly solid seasons.

by madvillian on Jul 10, 2010 1:12 PM CDT reply actions  

yes

the problem for the White Sox is certainly one of depth.

"Officially off strike...."

by Tdogg on Jul 10, 2010 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think the Sox have a history of overworking pitchers in the minors

or majors. The seem to be pretty cognisant of that.

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 10, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

take you fip and stick it between your lips

i cant read this confusing shit this early in the morning.

"from the Chi, the city of hella haters, where we keep rising to the top like elevators. Hi haters I'm back off hiatus." - grammy family

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 10, 2010 1:49 PM CDT reply actions  

ok since morel is blocked by a bad teahen contract

and a powerhouse cuban….. can he be shipped for anything that will help us right now? I saw that the sox had scouts at the Dan Haren game last night…. and although id rather have a bat i’ve always liked haren.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 10, 2010 1:52 PM CDT reply actions  

dude the tank is becoming my new favorite white sock

"from the Chi, the city of hella haters, where we keep rising to the top like elevators. Hi haters I'm back off hiatus." - grammy family

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 10, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

oh indeed i love the tank

i meant trade morel since viciedo and teahen are ahead of him.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 10, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

trade him for who?

"from the Chi, the city of hella haters, where we keep rising to the top like elevators. Hi haters I'm back off hiatus." - grammy family

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 10, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

viciedo goes to first next year and teahen isn't blocking anyone.

I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok

by mick10 on Jul 10, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

at the risk of giving people a heart attack....

no thanks id like to keep Konerko. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO…. can’t believe i said that.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 10, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Konerko's a FA though

not all up to the sox to keep him

by coffeepac on Jul 10, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's up to kenwo too and he has given permission.

I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok

by mick10 on Jul 10, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

He loved Big Brother.

"We can't do it easy. But we may as well do it high." -The Cheat

by South Side Expat on Jul 10, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

contrary to popular reports

i don’t think he’s all that bad there. He is better than a lot of jabronies we have recently let play there IE Fields, Betemit and Teahen

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 10, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

on that note, viciedo seems to have the hands and the arm strength to play a fine 3B, it's the positioning, glovework and throwing accuracy that needs work

and contrary to what others are saying I think he looks fine and in good shape. some ballplayers carry a little extra weight around. As long as he looks light on his feet I have no problem with a little extra heft.

by madvillian on Jul 10, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha - very good

Ollie and Stan's ability to make everyone laugh throughout their careers was truly a gift and they will never be forgotten.

by hoodlight on Jul 10, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

cushion for the pushin

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Jul 10, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

morel is much better at 3rd

I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok

by mick10 on Jul 10, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

those guys are all basically as bad as you'll see at the position

if viciedo’s better, that doesn’t make him good or even average. all i’m hoping for is enough to keep him away from 1b.

also, we realize he has to hit .300 to be valuable right? and how hard that is for 21 year olds in the big leagues?

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jul 10, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

no he doesn't, he has to hit 280/310/450 to be valuable

on this team, with Teahan and Vizquel the other options he doesn’t have to do much.

He deserves as much of a shot as those guys.

by madvillian on Jul 10, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Vizquel is already 1WARish

he’s providing no additional value, except maybe the rest Omar needs.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jul 10, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

viquels is not going to ISO more than .80

he at least has value as a power bat against LHP

by madvillian on Jul 10, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd like to see him start against all LHP and get 1-2 more starts a week

Somewhere around 12-16 sounds fine. Let him split time with Vizquel.

Bench Teahan.

by madvillian on Jul 10, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

so you want to send him down?

I think he shoulda been called up a month earlier than he did when i got chastised by certain people on here for even suggesting such a thing.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 10, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

he's probably not better than our current options

so unless we’re giving him the chance to break out and prove he’s better than the alternatives, i don’t see why he’s here. to the extent that i can know what’s better for him, i’d prefer to see him in Charlotte.

plus as larry mentions he’s making me look bad.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jul 10, 2010 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

who gives a fuck what's best for him?

he is needed right now on the 25 man roster of a playoff contending team. if he only gets 10 at bats a week and it helps the team, he belongs here.

I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok

by mick10 on Jul 10, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

right on, this guy has been playing everyday in pro ball for the past 6 years of so of his life

fuck his 200 or so more PA he’d get down in AAA, this is an “all hands on deck” situation with the Big League Club.

by madvillian on Jul 10, 2010 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

but there's plenty of chance

perhaps greater than 50% even that he can’t help. which is my point.

that and you can’t stop jayson nix, you can only hope to contain him.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jul 10, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure he'd be producing exatly the same in our line-up.

Because events are entirely generalizable to different situations. (Heh.) The Lieutenant (I don’t let go, either, ctj) belongs, and he is already helping by not being Jayson Nix (or at least JN’s Sox performance).

You got to gird your loins. Life continues. There are good days. There are bad days, but you keep hustling to survive. - Chet Lemon

by winningugly on Jul 11, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

that line kind of equates to what teahen does offensively.

they all look similar to me at this point. mixing and matching based on whatever seems like a reasonable move. i’d prefer the young player, of course, all things being equal, since he ain’t going to get better on the bench.

by larry on Jul 10, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

only problem is I have faith in teahan's bat

a little more than the other options even though I don’t want his glove at 3rd. Teabag prob gets some starts at 2nd.

"Officially off strike...."

by Tdogg on Jul 10, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

even early beckham was not better....

granted he got a lot better over the course of last season but when he first started there he was a step slower than viciedo seems to be.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 10, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

viciedo can't even move.

i suppose it’s amusing that he gets to everything that’s within two feet or his torso.

by larry on Jul 10, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

i don't agree sir...

he seems to move alright… in particular the one play he made (and then threw the ball away)… he moved into the hole, fielded cleanly, showed nice footwork to get himself into position and uncorked a terrible throw. I don’t think he’s terrible there. I think you are just grasping to make your previous minor league updates look good. For shame.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 10, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

"uncorked a terrible throw"

expect to say that a lot about him.

by larry on Jul 10, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

like thornton

I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok

by mick10 on Jul 10, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm more concerned with him getting on base.

How long do you expect it to take him to develop some patience at the plate, and take the occasional pass? Is this a years-down-the-road thing, or will he begin to get better quickly?

"and to think that we're sex games over .500" - blackoutsox

by RWShow on Jul 10, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

aka an average player

dude has limited upside and now i’ve seen his approach. if he’s elevated his stock, i think i want to see him traded.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jul 10, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

there are about 10 guys who averaged .310 or better

over the last three seasons. so i’m willing to set the ceiling at .300. and at that point, it’s hard to project him walking enough to really get into the 3-4 win territory. .310/.340/.550 gets him to 20 runs above average with the bat, enough to make him a 3 win player.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jul 10, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

uh oh stat boy... i said it

if he can hit 300 with some pop i could give a fuck if he ever walks at all! AHHHHHHH oh no i didnt!

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 10, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

that would be sweet.

Cashing checks and having sex. Also doing some light medical diagnoses.

by MarketMaker on Jul 10, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

i dont understand the rush to put a cap on this kid already.

Seems silly to me. He’s way too young.

"Officially off strike...."

by Tdogg on Jul 10, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

of course i'm sure other MLB teams are similarly aware

so whatever. let’s at least get him PAs.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jul 10, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

hey Colin, you like the new lcd soundsystem? I know we have a thread, just though I'd get your opinion

outside of dance yrself clean, which blew my mind that first time I heard it, the album doesn’t do much for me.

by madvillian on Jul 10, 2010 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

i've only heard bits and pieces

from various instances of porch chillin’. i was digging it, but i didn’t hear anything that topped All My Friends.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jul 10, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

minors

It’s very possible that a few of these guys get traded in a deadline deal, though. Kenny being a very aggressive GM means there aren’t a lot of good prospects for very long.

by walterfan34 on Jul 10, 2010 2:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Viciedo, Morel and Mitchell

maybe we could get something for that.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jul 10, 2010 2:25 PM CDT reply actions  

lineup

Pierre, lf
Vizquel, 3b
Rios, cf
Konerko, 1b
Quentin, DH
Pierzynski, c
Jones, rf
Ramirez, ss
Beckham, 2b
Floyd, p

"There's too many (bleeping) guys on the computer. It's simple. I say that. Pete Rose never watched a computer. Rod Carew never did. All those hitters, they go out and see the ball, hit it and move on." - Ozzie

by usualsuspect on Jul 10, 2010 2:25 PM CDT reply actions  

approved

I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok

by mick10 on Jul 10, 2010 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

id rather have viciedo play today

and vizquel tomorrow vs. grienke

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 10, 2010 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

gotta find out if viciedo can get out of the way of something under his chin tomorrow.

I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok

by mick10 on Jul 10, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

otoh

viciedo might actually be able to catch up with the heater

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jul 10, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

i like that Ozzie is sticking with Jones in the lineup after his big day yesterday.

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Jul 10, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is a very good defensive lineup.

I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok

by mick10 on Jul 10, 2010 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Jul 10, 2010 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im not quite sure why the majority of the people on here arent more high on Viciedo,

he’s putting up pretty solid numbers for a 21 year old in his first 2 weeks in the majors. I have no real complaints about him at 3rd, I mean other than Vizquel we’ve seen a lot of shit at that position since Crede left. I like the guy’s chances he obviously got some pop, and a quick bat. Reminds me of Uribe with his big swing.

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Jul 10, 2010 3:15 PM CDT reply actions  

trying to be cautious

I think every one is very happy with what he is doing since being called up. Just kind of hiding the optimism and hoping he keeps up, at least that’s how I am dealing with this.

Lupe, release the balloons!

by LT_sox_fan on Jul 10, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok, thats kinda what Ive been doing too,

it sure would be nice if he panned out to be a solid major leaguer

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Jul 10, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

word

Lupe, release the balloons!

by LT_sox_fan on Jul 10, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

doesn't matter to me what you're high on, as long as you're high on something.

Cashing checks and having sex. Also doing some light medical diagnoses.

by MarketMaker on Jul 10, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

and plus

there are so many things to be high on with this club right now, you might overdose if you throw in Viciedo

Lupe, release the balloons!

by LT_sox_fan on Jul 10, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe because he's 21

Okay don’t be high on him yet but I don’t understand some of the “lets trade him he’s reached his peak.” sentiment.

"Officially off strike...."

by Tdogg on Jul 10, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't necessarily want to trade him

But the numerous reports of bad defense are not completely invalidated by a few weeks of the ol’ eye test. He NEEDS to stick at 3rd. I don’t see his bat playing at a lesser position unless he can adopt Q!’s batting stance and squeeze out a few extra points of OBP from getting hit.

by CatBrains on Jul 10, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

he hasn't reached his peak

but to this amateur eye, dude is just never going to walk enough to be regularly above average. if he makes it, you could certainly see a .330/.360/.560 year or something happening, but i doubt that would be the norm.

and i bring up the trade possibility because who else is there?

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jul 10, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is true

it’s rare that you even get to see a 21 year old in this kind of environment. but approach is something that, as far as i’m aware, tends to stick with a player even as he moves from prospect to mlber. so i’m willing to bet his cheap years aren’t awe inspiring.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jul 10, 2010 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

fair enough.

Cashing checks and having sex. Also doing some light medical diagnoses.

by MarketMaker on Jul 10, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do they have to be awe inspiring?

Wouldn’t .290/.330/.520 suffice? Certainly nothing great, but he’s not all that expensive, so average-ish (for position) still works.

by CWSKeith on Jul 10, 2010 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

adequately replacing paulie on the cheap is cool

the point is just that if you’ve got a low-ish ceiling and you’re unpolished and not that close to topping out, getting that kind of production is less than a 1 in 5 bet.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jul 10, 2010 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because that's something of a luxury on the Sox right now?

See Pierre, Juan; Teahen, Mark; and Kotsay, Mark.

Let the kid play, as was suggested, four times a week. Vizquel gets his rest, V. gets some PAs, and nobody’s happy. Just how it should be.

"I'm tired, I've got a headache, my bullpen blew it." -South Side Expat

by Teahenny Penny on Jul 10, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sure I'm not suggesting anything different

I am arguing against being “high” on the guy just yet. And against using Uribe as a comp in making that case.

by CatBrains on Jul 10, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I gotcha.

I’m not high on him either, but certainly not low either. I do, however, think he can help the club right now, all hands on deck style.

"I'm tired, I've got a headache, my bullpen blew it." -South Side Expat

by Teahenny Penny on Jul 10, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Terrible, terrible phrasing. Sorry.

"I'm tired, I've got a headache, my bullpen blew it." -South Side Expat

by Teahenny Penny on Jul 10, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

A twitter quote from some random dude, who is clearly misinformed
is on his way to the White Sox/Royals game. Hopefully, Jake Peavey is on the mound tonight!

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Jul 10, 2010 3:19 PM CDT reply actions  

obvioulsy a Cubs fan going to a Sox game,

dumb ass yuppie.

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Jul 10, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

that is hilarious.

what a dumb shit.

Free Brent Lllibridge!

by e-gus on Jul 10, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's no way he's serious.

Of course, he did spell Peavy incorrectly.

"I'm tired, I've got a headache, my bullpen blew it." -South Side Expat

by Teahenny Penny on Jul 10, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Chris Sale

can’t say enough how much I appreciate his signing happening as a no nonsense get it done type of thing. The guy is staying true to his word: lets’s sign and just let me play. Keep it up!

Lupe, release the balloons!

by LT_sox_fan on Jul 10, 2010 3:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice write-up.

Thanks, larry. The minors look like all filler with Hudson on the Sox. Yeah, Morel may be alright, but will he stick around? Way to go, winning streak. Way to not turn the Sox into automatic sellers. Whatever happens, it’ll be interesting to see how K-Dub handles this little situation.

"I'm tired, I've got a headache, my bullpen blew it." -South Side Expat

by Teahenny Penny on Jul 10, 2010 4:06 PM CDT reply actions  

De Asa report? He must be tearing it up.

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by phastphil on Jul 10, 2010 4:32 PM CDT reply actions  

Tigers Up 7-3 in the 5th

4 HR off Blackburn in 4+ innings.

Free Brent Lllibridge!

by e-gus on Jul 10, 2010 4:37 PM CDT reply actions  

4 2Bs and 4 HRs for detroit. no non-XBHs. not too shabby.

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by MarketMaker on Jul 10, 2010 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Their lineup is fierce, however.

"and to think that we're sex games over .500" - blackoutsox

by RWShow on Jul 10, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

pavano having their best season. didn't see that coming.

i wonder if liriano is gonna start giving up some bombs. he’s been very lucky so far.

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by MarketMaker on Jul 10, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

liriano and baker are as good as any we've got

i dn about pavano. he’s gotta regress in his bb/9 and if that happens, then whatever to their back three.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jul 10, 2010 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

you are full of shit if you think the twins starting pitchers are as good as ours.

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by mick10 on Jul 10, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

agreed. you have to be on crack to say baker would even be in our top 4.

and fuck liriano too… that dude hasn’t been all that great since 0 fucking 6

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 10, 2010 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

with peavy gone

we don’t have anyone to match liriano. unless his walk rate falls off a cliff, we currently are lacking anyone with his upside.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jul 10, 2010 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

read what i said, dick.

and everyone has been going on like we didn’t lose Peavy. we did. that’s a problem. now it actually matters how good freddy pitches.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jul 10, 2010 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

freddy always pitches good.... so i'm not too worried about it.

scott baker sucks…… a real good friend of mine is a twins fan and he can’t stand him either. calls him scott baker the home run maker. Colin just because someone can strike out people doesn’t automatically make them a good pitcher.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 11, 2010 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Roh-roh.

We all do know this can’t last forever, right? And that Freddy might actually have a bad game or two? We’re playing really well right now, and it’s super fun, but let’s surely not become too big to fail. When we play .500 ball for a week or two, or we (gasp!) lose 4 or 5 in a row, let us not be surprised. Losing Peavy is very big.

"I'm tired, I've got a headache, my bullpen blew it." -South Side Expat

by Teahenny Penny on Jul 11, 2010 4:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just saying freddy pitches good every start out

besides 2 terrible ones….. i would be more concerned with buehrle.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 11, 2010 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

you're gonna fucking love hudson then.

certainly amusing that his home run rate is the same as garcia’s.

by larry on Jul 11, 2010 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

wow. you hang out with some witty dudes.

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by MarketMaker on Jul 11, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

he just pitched wednesday.

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by MarketMaker on Jul 10, 2010 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

...nvm

all star break.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jul 10, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmmmm.

"Officially off strike...."

by Tdogg on Jul 10, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

White Sox 19-4 with Omer Munoz standing by first base.

I think maybe Harold should take the rest of the season off.

Free Brent Lllibridge!

by e-gus on Jul 10, 2010 4:46 PM CDT reply actions  

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Ollie and Stan's ability to make everyone laugh throughout their careers was truly a gift and they will never be forgotten.

by hoodlight on Jul 10, 2010 4:47 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

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Ollie and Stan's ability to make everyone laugh throughout their careers was truly a gift and they will never be forgotten.

by hoodlight on Jul 10, 2010 4:47 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Morneau has bang on head - Konerko set to take place in all star game

Ollie and Stan's ability to make everyone laugh throughout their careers was truly a gift and they will never be forgotten.

by hoodlight on Jul 10, 2010 4:50 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Morneau has bang on head - Konerko set to take place in all star game

yes

Ollie and Stan's ability to make everyone laugh throughout their careers was truly a gift and they will never be forgotten.

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