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Does A.J. deserve more credit?


OK, PR is already saying yes, but hear me out.

 

Right now A.J. is on pace for a one WAR season. Many on this site, myself included have ridden him for that because it simply wouldn't fly as quietly as it has from any other regular starter.  However, pitchers talk about how well A.J. calls a game, and because I can't get the nightmare ninth inning Castro called on Sunday against the Twins out of my head, (full disclosure: It's the last game I saw since I go to bed too early for our West Coast killings) I've been wondering if there is any creedence to it or if pitchers just offer traditional happy talk for a respected veteran.

 

Does A.J. make a difference with the way he calls the pitches and if so, should he receive a percentage of the pitching staff's WAR, thus raising his number to a more acceptable number?  Does he deserve any credit for 2010's incredible FIP levels?

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Does A.J. deserve a portion of the pitching staff's WAR?
Yes
56 votes
No
18 votes

74 votes | Poll has closed

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aj ISDAMAN

lack of war aside, he is beisbol through in through. everyone hates him until he’s on their team (obviously some hate him now for being on their team). but point is the guy can call a game and that is a key role. not only that, but his theatrics and way to manipulate plays are uncanny, and that alone is an intangible that cant ignored.

Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
Thank you, thank you, SSS. Thank you for accepting people who act like retards, if not actual retards. by Mitch. on Jun 24, 2010 1:16 PM CDT

by Grinder Rule #42 on Jul 21, 2010 1:53 PM CDT reply actions  

no

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 21, 2010 1:58 PM CDT reply actions  

well in that sense...

of course not. no one deserves shit…ya just gotta take it

Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
Thank you, thank you, SSS. Thank you for accepting people who act like retards, if not actual retards. by Mitch. on Jun 24, 2010 1:16 PM CDT

by Grinder Rule #42 on Jul 21, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

MB STILL raves about the job he did during the perfecto!

So yes, the catcher/pitch caller clearly deserves a portion of the WAR.
Others can argue how much, but I’d say the R part.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver

by Chiburb on Jul 21, 2010 4:09 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Whoshity whosh whosh

Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jul 21, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

but aj told him to throw the no-no so he gets the

/ part of the W

Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
Thank you, thank you, SSS. Thank you for accepting people who act like retards, if not actual retards. by Mitch. on Jun 24, 2010 1:16 PM CDT

by Grinder Rule #42 on Jul 21, 2010 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

hmm give him hi dues for putting down the right finger

i know what its like to be a catcher, it is not easy

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by pierzynskirules on Jul 21, 2010 8:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Way too easy, PR.

Put on some shin guards or something. Protect yourself.

Now, I will continue to live life in the exact same way I have been, just to appease the gods. Seriously, I will suck the dick of karma ten times over to see the good guys keep up this stellar play for the rest of the season.
by Campbell32

by winningugly on Jul 21, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

we know

thats the last thing cip ever said. “man, that pr really knows how to catch!”

Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok

by BoeJouma on Jul 22, 2010 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

what is that soupposed to mean?

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by pierzynskirules on Jul 22, 2010 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

i should. hey my shinguards had knee savers. had bad knees

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by pierzynskirules on Jul 21, 2010 9:08 PM CDT reply actions  

uh wrong place

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by pierzynskirules on Jul 21, 2010 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

I give him the credit

If he takes the blame for how they sucked at the beginning.

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Jul 22, 2010 11:06 AM CDT reply actions  

He will if Flowers is catching a bunch of veteran guys

He has no clue about and also strikes out at the rate he is doing in AAA. It’s not like Flowers has been promoted because of his great catching skills.

With that said AJ has been shitty at the plate and isn’t getting younger. A walk here and there and some power might be a good thing for that position. Let the pitchers give signs to Flowers and he can catch what they throw.

by Duck99 on Jul 24, 2010 9:09 PM CDT via mobile reply actions  

Ive heard reports say Flowers has a great cameraderie with pitchers last year

so theres that

something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.

-MarketMaker

by blackoutsox on Jul 24, 2010 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

that is last year. if you can't call a game and your whole mantre is about hitting

will not last long as a catcher, you will be a DH.

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by pierzynskirules on Jul 26, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stringent analysis from pr.

Careful! Don’t want to use up your data limit on one response.

"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose

by Teahenny Penny on Jul 27, 2010 3:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

oh be quiet, you

and make my dinner!

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by pierzynskirules on Jul 27, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Calling pitches *is* hard work.



EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Jul 26, 2010 6:14 PM CDT reply actions  

wtf?

something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.

-MarketMaker

by blackoutsox on Jul 26, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

the funny thing is that the transcript doesn't do the on-field ugliness justice.

it was way worse to watch live.

Cashing checks and having sex. Also doing some light medical diagnoses.

by MarketMaker on Jul 26, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats bad location

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by pierzynskirules on Jul 26, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Haha!

Yeah. That’s the problem here.

"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose

by Teahenny Penny on Jul 27, 2010 3:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

i stick out my tongue at you

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by pierzynskirules on Jul 27, 2010 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

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