White Sox Trade Deadline Shopping List
The trade deadline is a little over a week away, the White Sox have a surprising two game division lead, but even though they've been connected to some big names (Adam Dunn & Prince Fielder) over the last few weeks nothing seems imminent. I realize that by writing that opening run-on sentence the Sox will probably complete a blockbuster within 24 hours of posting this...
First, let's take a look at what the Sox need. Jake Peavy's injury has led many to believe that starting pitching is among the Sox most pressing needs, but a closer look reveals that's just not the case. Daniel Hudson's pre-season PECOTA game him a projected 4.67 ERA while Peavy's clocked in at 3.97. ZiPS is more optimistic, listing a 4.30 rest-of-season ERA with a 3.86 FIP. You're hearing a lot of talk right now about teams not projecting Hudson as more than a #3 or #4 pitcher, well, guess what his current projections make him? That's right, a #3 or 4 starter, right now... As a fastball-changeup guy with an inconsistent slider and a telegraphed curveball.
He's a #3-4 starter in the same way that '07-'08 John Danks and Gavin Floyd were #3-4 starters. They could hold their own against major league hitters, learning along the way what it takes to be a front of the rotation starter. None of these teams complaining about Hudson being a #3-4 starter are turning his services away. They all want Hudson; they're simply posturing to get more players in the deal... More players the Sox don't exactly have.
It's at this point the non-signing of Jim Thome becomes all the more painful. Not only did the Sox opt out of the deep-discounted production of a big slugger from the left-hand side of the plate, but now they're faced with the proposition of paying a market rate in minor-league talent to get a viable replacement. The Brewers and Nationals have balked at offers centered around Hudson, and the Astros seem more focused on trade-demanding Oswalt rather than better fit for the Sox, Lance Berkman.
Regardless, any move that subtracts Hudson from the team is simply shifting the Sox holes from one area to another, and should be a non-starter. The Sox need to focus their efforts on acquiring a non-marquee bat, preferably left-handed, who won't cost them part of their current 25-man roster or their immediate future -- though Hudson and maybe Mitchell -- who I don't think anyone would ask for -- are the only two on that list for me.
Who Can They Target?
By my count there are only 12 teams who can be considered out of the playoff race, which obviously cuts the potential targets. Gordon Beckham's reemergence at 2B and Omar Vizquel's surprising play at 3B have helped plug some of the Sox perceived holes. I certainly don't expect Vizquel to continue to hit .310/.376/.398 as he's done in Teahen's absence, but there's no denying that the defensive improvement has played a role in the Sox pitching turnaround. If the Sox are going to find an upgrade at 3B, he's going to have to bring along some plus defense, which all but eliminates 3B as a potential target. That leaves OF and DH as their only remaining upgradeable positions -- because, really, how can you upgrade at catcher?
So let's take a look through the roster of the 12 clubs that are out of it to try and find some potential matches:
Toronto -- MLB homerun leader Jose Batista has now been linked to the Sox, but he's not exactly an ideal fit. He's essentially a right-handed Mark Teahen -- poor-to-average defense wherever he plays, .729 OPS prior to this season while playing for 5 teams with losing records -- who just so happened to put together a hot first 3 months. That hot start includes a .238 batting average. The only reason anyone's interested is his sudden ability to have 19% of his flyballs go over the wall, which, you know, doesn't exactly seem like a sustainable skill. ZiPS projects him to hit .232/.338/.453 the remainder of the season. PASS.
Baltimore -- Luke Scott is their DH. Currently hitting .285/.355/.549, Scott bats from the left side and has a longer history of not being completely useless (.264/.350/.495 prior to '10). Compare that to the .252/.313/.351 that Mark Kotsay is projected by ZiPS to hit the rest of the year, and you're looking at a significant upgrade that shouldn't mortgage the farm. Scott has another year remaining before free agency, so the Sox will have to give up someone of value -- though interestingly, Christina Kahrl at BP proposed a Scott & Miguel Tejeada to the Sox trade that doesn't even include Brent Morel (who I think is the starting point of package for Scott) let alone Hudson, Flowers, Viciedo, Mitchell or Santos.
Kansas City -- Kenny loves trading with the Royals, and they might actually have a fit. David DeJesus isn't exactly a sexy name, but he owns a career OPS of .783, which plays much better because of his plus defense. The upgrade from Q! to DeJesus in RF would make it seem like we're adding about a .900 OPS DH, plus limiting potential Q!injuries while playing the field. DeJesus is signed through this year, with a $6M player option next year. It seems like he'd be more expensive to acquire than Scott, if only for the intra-division tax. They're grooming Alex Gordon for outfield play, for some reason... Maybe we could trade them a proven 3B/OFer. I think we may have one of those to spare.
Cleveland -- Wasteland.
Oakland -- Jack Cust. Meh, maybe a couple years ago. Pass.
Seattle -- Nearly a wasteland. They recently added Justin Smoak which logjams their 1B/DH situation with Casey Kotchman and Russell Branyan. Kotchman seems to have worn on yet another organization, while Branyan was brought back in as a fan favorite. It wouldn't be a trade speculation thread without mentioning Kotchman, but the lack of production has finally caught up with him. He'll forever be the butt of our pretend trade jokes. Branyan might be an option on the 31st when everything else has fallen through. He'll bring some much needed power, but not much in the way of actually getting on base.
Washington -- Dunn. Dunn. Dunn... Dunn. You know all about him. Mike Rizzo is holding out for Beckham and the rights to all of his future offspring. If a trade does go down, it looks like it's going to be painful in terms of talent surrendered.
Milwaukee -- Same as Washington. Replace the name Dunn with Prince Fielder. Difference is Fielder is under team-control for '11 and may be due as much as $16M at arbitration. Still, the extra year of control probably raises the asking price. Supposedly, Corey Hart hasn't been drawing too much interest. And although he isn't left-handed, neither was the bulk of the Sox '05 squad. We need another bat, period. If Hart isn't going to cost Hudson or Santos, I'd pull the trigger.
Houston -- The Astros may want to hang on to Lance Berkman simply to retain some franchise identity should they trade Roy Oswalt. He seems like an afterthought to the Sox after Dunn and Fielder, though he'll probably cost nearly as much, rendering him an even less likely trade target.
Pittsburgh -- They've got young talent everywhere, not exactly a good trade candidate. One name who may be available is Andy LaRoche, who was replaced by Pedro Alvarez. LaRoche is my new Kotchman, a prospect with great minor league numbers who's never put it together at the major leagues. Not gonna help the Sox this year, but a guy who I wouldn't mind giving a shot -- though with Viciedo and Morel, the Sox aren't exactly lacking the questionable 3B prospect market.
Cubs -- Time to get creative. Kosuke Fukudome is left-handed and better than Mark Kotsay, which is all we're really looking for here. But he has a big contract. The Cubs would have to take on Linebrink and/or Teahen plus eat some of his '11 salary to make that work. And it's not that big of an upgrade anyway. You can toss Carlos Zambrano's name in there too just because of the Ozzie connection -- the Sox are probably the one destination where I'd expect to see him thrive -- but I don't see any way they can take on that salary, or would want to take on a certified headcase.
Arizona -- Adam LaRoche, Andy's older, more successful brother, would be a decent option. A career .272/.341/.487 hitter, LaRoche had a .957 OPS last year after being traded to ATL. ZiPS projects him to hit .278/.354/.495 the rest of the season. He's got a $9.5M vesting option should he be traded which might scare the Sox off, as is his name recognition which might necessitate some more well-regarded prospects than that for the similar production of Luke Scott.
Verdict: Once you remove all the teams in the race, then subtract the untradeables -- your young players with <4 years of service, the overpaid veterans, and face-of-the-franchises -- there's not a whole lot left. There seems to me to be an obvious trade target who brings the skills the Sox are looking for along with what shouldn't be too steep of a price tag -- though one would have to believe if Scott & Tejada were available for Kahrl's proposed package, he would already be a good guy wearing black.
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Kahrl also has Dunn to the Padres for Venable + Russell
If that’s all it would take to get Dunn, he’d have been on the Sox for weeks by now.
Chicago White Sox Examiner — Big hat, no cattle
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the Tejada/Scott trade looked ridiculous to me from the O’s perspective on its face. granted i haven’t researched it much, but that package the Sox were to send was sad bastard at best.
Fireworks: Bang?
It's not like Tejada has an outlandishly expensive deal, either.
He’s owed ~$2 million for the rest of 2010 and is a FA after that, so I don’t see why Baltimore would take lesser prospects in return for Scott if they were able to dump Tejada on the Sox. That probably wasn’t what Kahrl was getting at, though, it just seems like Escobar is overrated in that scenario.
Chicago White Sox Examiner — Big hat, no cattle
by UribeAuction on Jul 23, 2010 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Fielder due $16MM?
there ain’t that much surplus value in that contract then. i think it really comes down to how much the playoffs are worth. and that i’m not sure on. nate silver and vince gennaro have done some stuff, but i’m not sure how good it is. i keep saying that i think the ’spects-for-vets deals seem to end up analyzed in favor of the the team getting prospects, so i assume that actually means the playoffs are a fucking valuable thing.
goes back to finish reading
Fireworks: Bang?
re: surplus value: I know that, you know that
but 1 extra year probably equals more prospects, salary be damned
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by South Side Expat on Jul 23, 2010 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions
So a disgraced corrupt former Illinois Governor walks into a bar, and the bartender says:
Hi George!
"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jul 23, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Hi Otto! Hi Dan! Hi George! Hi Rod!
And the list goes back even further.
Not enough booze for all of them.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
especially when you factor in the security detail for that many govs
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
Fielder could solve our DH and SP problem all in one.
He is the answer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcvaYgWc9eY&feature=related
"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe
i think thats the only time youll see prince smile at his dad
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
So really Fielder would cost what, close to $20 MM
for this year ($4 MM left) and next year (arb eligible)? That is a lot of coin in addition to giving up Beckham, Hudson and whoever else they want.
"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe
speaking out of my ass
but would it be possible to send them buehrle? him and morel? money would be as tight then, i dont think. totally speakin out of my ass
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
by BoeJouma on Jul 23, 2010 2:26 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
wow, didnt realize i said
speaking out of my ass twice
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
Probably appropriate, considering the comment ;-)
"and to think that we're sex games over .500" - blackoutsox
by RWShow on Jul 23, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why is this not your sig?
Now, I will continue to live life in the exact same way I have been, just to appease the gods. Seriously, I will suck the dick of karma ten times over to see the good guys keep up this stellar play for the rest of the season.
by Campbell32
DTY
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
by blackoutsox on Jul 23, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions
No no no, he declared me alive the other day.
"and to think that we're sex games over .500" - blackoutsox
so who would take buehrle's spot for the rest of the season (post season if we get there)?
you are filling one hole by making another one.
"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe
bring up torres for the remainder of the year
i know, i know, holes. but with the “extra” cash, maybe we could lock up prince for a bit. give hudson a spot, keep garcia on the cheap and then if he falls through, give sale a shot. undesired pressure on sale, but dudes gotta have some balls at some point, why not fast track some balls?
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
now you said balls twice
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
by blackoutsox on Jul 23, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
.
Ich gehe hin bekommen die Papiere, die Papiere
Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
Thank you, thank you, SSS. Thank you for accepting people who act like retards, if not actual retards. by Mitch. on Jun 24, 2010 1:16 PM CDT
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jul 23, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
what makes you think Buerhle would say yes
he wouldn’t.
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
No trade clause.
Ain’t goin anywhere but St. Louis
Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jul 23, 2010 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Ryan said yesterday that the playoffs mean about $14M to the Rangers.
I’d guess higher for Chicago, but that’s the ballpark.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
Was that in conjunction with his comments on the bankruptcy proceedings?
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 23, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
After filing for bankruptcy in May, the Rangers sought court permission to sell the club to the group led by Ryan, a Hall of Fame pitcher, and Greenberg in a transaction valued at more than $500 million.
After the auction, Lynn will consider approving the company’s bankruptcy exit plan, which details how the money generated from a sale would pay creditors.
At the start of today’s hearing, Rangers’ manager Ron Washington told Lynn that morale among the players is "unbelievably exceptional." The team holds first place in the American League’s Western Division with less than half the regular season left to play.
A playoff run could bring the team an additional $14 million, Ryan said in court yesterday.
The case is In re Texas Rangers Baseball Partners, 10-43400, U.S. Bankruptcy Court, Northern District of Texas (Fort Worth).
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
That's what I thought.
I’m wondering if he’s lowballing (so as to acquire at a cheaper price) or overestimating (so they’ll move faster so as to not lose any opportunity cost).
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 23, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
or if he is spot on
"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe
I was hoping in conjunction to Robin Ventura

Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game of 2008.
by NorthSidePaulie on Jul 23, 2010 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Bring him here to drop some bombs.

Kenwo4life=ratings
by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 23, 2010 12:29 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
that was awesome
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
by blackoutsox on Jul 23, 2010 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions
agreed
but i hate that he untucked his shirt.
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
no doubt
show some fuckin class youre a goddamn professional…
now drop and give me 50 lunchbox
Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
Thank you, thank you, SSS. Thank you for accepting people who act like retards, if not actual retards. by Mitch. on Jun 24, 2010 1:16 PM CDT
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jul 23, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
He's said that the untucked shirt is a homage to Negro League players.
DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 23, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions
really prince
ive been to the negro league HoF and i dont recall seeing many ballers lookin like that…what fuckin hack FPF
Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
Thank you, thank you, SSS. Thank you for accepting people who act like retards, if not actual retards. by Mitch. on Jun 24, 2010 1:16 PM CDT
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jul 23, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
They started doing it with Mike Cameron
His dad used to untuck his shirt after work so first Cam did it and then several players started doing it.
Trade Beckham and whoever else to Milwaukee for Prince.
Then sign him to a long term contract.
"from the Chi, the city of hella haters, where we keep rising to the top like elevators. Hi haters I'm back off hiatus." - grammy family
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 23, 2010 2:09 AM CDT up reply actions
bla, never trade Beckham
"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe
hudson and morel
and id be okay with it
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
if that was it i would be all over it
doubt that would get it done
"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe
Im sorry who is his agent again?
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
who gives a fuck
I am sick of the boras thing… its so stupid. if we only get the prince for this year and next year so be it…. the agent has nothing to do with it. if we can’t get a deal let him walk or trade him if we are out of it at the next deadline and refill the minor leagues with the prospects you will get.
to not bring in a guy because of boras is pretty retarded.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Not if there are less expensive options in the terms of prospects sacrificed
that would still fit the bill of improving the DH hole in our line-up.
Oh yeah, and FBINA
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
My response was to his assertion of trading Beckham for Prince and
signing him to a long term contract. So yeah the agent is kind of relevant.
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
morel + hudson
or morel, greene, marquez and kroeger
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
your real trade ideas are as bad as your fantasy ones!
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
but seriously
i know. im a lowballer
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
viciedo and hudson
Dayan at 1B for Milwaukee. McGehee (sic) is decent for them at 3B
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game of 2008.
by NorthSidePaulie on Jul 23, 2010 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
too much
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
Scott Boras and so what,
we bid on A-Rod…
"from the Chi, the city of hella haters, where we keep rising to the top like elevators. Hi haters I'm back off hiatus." - grammy family
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 23, 2010 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
lets get arron rowand back
and nick swisher
Czheck Productions
My Instrumentals
This shameful display of selfishness and betrayal by one of our very own has shifted our "motivation" to previously unknown and previously never experienced levels.
I Loved ol' whatshisname- can we get him back?
"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jul 23, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
uribe!
ozuna? chris widger? ross gloud? scotty pods? JERMAINE DYE
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"CMON NOW I DIDN'T QUIT IN THE PLAYOFFS. I'D CALL IT MORE OF A TEMPORARY PERIOD OF LESS TRYIN, NOT QUTTIN YALL CRAZY"-LBJ6
Scotty Pods!!
Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jul 23, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Did not know that LaRoche had a vesting option
that makes him slightly less valuable than I thought, as I don’t think he’d get much more than $5 million on the market.
I always thought Scott was a good defender in left, but I look at fangraphs and see that he’s only gotten ~100 outfield innings this year. Then again, the three guys playing OF in front of him all have excellent defensive reputations, so maybe it’s not a big deal. In any case, if the Sox scouts think Scott can play a serviceable RF (i.e. better than Quentin), I really think he’s the guy to go for — don’t think it will require dealing Hudson, potentially gets Quentin out of RF and (obviously) pushes the dreck(otsay) down the depth chart.
Am I the only one that feels like there are a lot of teams over-hyping their players this year...
in an attempt to get more back in a trade? I mean I realize this is just part of the business every year as it gets closer to the trade deadline. But it seems excessive this year. Is this just a result of there being a lot of buyers as opposed to sellers? And if that’s the case and they are in fact bluffing, then it seems there will be a shitload of last minute activity on the last day of the trading deadline when teams realize “Holy shit, nobody is taking the bait. Maybe we should move ______ anyways.”
"Here's something: That if you want your father to think you're not a silly f*ck, don't slap a guy across the face with a glove. Because if you do that, that's what he will think. Unless you're a noble man or something in the nineteenth century. Which I am not." - Dave Spritz in The Weather Man
by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 23, 2010 12:37 AM CDT reply actions
that
imo definitely buyers/sellers, and to add insult to injury of the few options out there, only about 4 of em seem to be a possibility, and none of em a perfect fit.
Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
Thank you, thank you, SSS. Thank you for accepting people who act like retards, if not actual retards. by Mitch. on Jun 24, 2010 1:16 PM CDT
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jul 23, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
caution: i am drunk enough that i had to read the post with one eye closed.
adam laroche is the guy i like but that contract option is brutal. also not sure about the transition to the american league and also want someone who can play the outfield (right field) but i would take dunn for sure if didn’t have to give up too much. don’t want luke scott. that guy is whack. he’s crazier than me and i can’t root for him. fuck fukudome. i like corey hart. gonna have to give up too much for berkman or fielder. i kinda feel like the sox aren’t gonna want to mess with chemistry too much and if they do anything it won’t be much. i mean, when teahen comes back i guess viciedo will go down and then there’s lillibridge. i don’t know. i have to go to sleep.
hey swisher...........you know.
spelling was fine
however your capitalization and run ons severely regressed. happy thursday to you too, friend!
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
what is up with scott yo?
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 23, 2010 2:42 AM CDT up reply actions
haha, i had to google that crazy shit about luke scott
i think this raises the question for paul konerko to which he’d rather allow in the clubhouse, a bobblehead doll or a gun
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 23, 2010 2:49 AM CDT up reply actions
corey hart and luke scott would be fine
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
right back atcha
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
Under the circumstances...one of the best posts I have ever seen
Coolest baseball moment I got to see in person.
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
Keep rubbing it in, Antonio Bastardo!
Thanks to the magic of my Slingbox, I was able to watch it in my otherwise-TV-less office.
"and to think that we're sex games over .500" - blackoutsox
ever see the picture of the scoreboard that the sun-times has and jim uses for "state of the sox"?
i’m in it. :-P
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Jul 23, 2010 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions
also, some thanks for d-weezy.
hey swisher...........you know.
by BuehrleMan on Jul 23, 2010 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Damn straight.
What an incredible afternoon that was….. I’m just sitting here going back to the memories of his perfecto. What’s ironic is that I finished reading James Buckley’s book Perfect, of the 16 perfect games through to the end of the 20th century (it was published before Johnson’s perfect game in 2004) the day before Buehrle threw his.
"i need to watch this harry potter movie on tv on acid."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 15, 2010 3:30 PM CDT
I have witnessed the 2005 World Series championship, Mark Buehrle's perfect game, and the 2010 Chicago Blackhawks Stanley Cup championship in my lifetime.
RIP Bob Probert
by chisoxfan1473 on Jul 23, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
read it again
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
by blackoutsox on Jul 23, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Heh
I think it only works once for perfect games, because I re-read it again before he set down 17 more in a row, before his perfect streak finally ended.
"i need to watch this harry potter movie on tv on acid."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 15, 2010 3:30 PM CDT
I have witnessed the 2005 World Series championship, Mark Buehrle's perfect game, and the 2010 Chicago Blackhawks Stanley Cup championship in my lifetime.
RIP Bob Probert
by chisoxfan1473 on Jul 23, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Is it a good read?
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 23, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
It is a pretty good read
Covers the 16 perfect games including the two in 1880. Buckley, Jr. combines some humor with a ton of newspaper quotes from the early perfectos, and a ton of interviews once you start hitting around Don Larsen’s World Series perfecto in ‘56. I highly recommend it for a baseball fan, it is quite an enjoyable read, even more so when you know exactly what it’s like to have witnessed such a feat as a perfect game. I don’t know if there are any updated versions, though it’s been at least 7 years since I got that book.
Doing some quick research, he does have an updated version from 2005 after Randy Johnson’s perfect game. Nothing yet that includes Buehrle’s, Braden’s, or Halladay’s…and it would be interesting to see what he’d do for Galagarra’s blown perfect game.
"i need to watch this harry potter movie on tv on acid."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 15, 2010 3:30 PM CDT
I have witnessed the 2005 World Series championship, Mark Buehrle's perfect game, and the 2010 Chicago Blackhawks Stanley Cup championship in my lifetime.
by chisoxfan1473 on Jul 23, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Zambrano and Fukudome for Linebrink and Teahan
Thats some mad scientist shit right there. Youre crazy, cheat. You. Youre crazy man.
Like a fox! despite the funny money stuff that would have to go on in there Id like to see us dump those two in one shot and to a team I hate. I just dont think the Cubs can send Zambrano across town in case he does recover. Also I think he would be a better DH than Teehans.
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
stream of consciousness there
Their problems are too expensive (and Fukudome isn’t enough of an upgrade to think about it)
Twitter: @SouthSideCheat
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too true
Im so glad the Cubs outbid the Sox on Fukudome when they did. Can you imagine how pissed we would all be about that contract? Yeesh.
I agree that this is probably one of the only places Zambrano might recover but Im pretty sure the Cubs cant let that happen.
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
I dont think they outbid us
he just wanted to play with them. correct me if im wrong
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
that was my understanding.
i always heard kenny offered more (50 mil for 4 v. 48 for 4 from the cubs).
hey swisher...........you know.
also I would like Zambrano for Linebrink, Kotsay and Crockpot
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
who is Crockpot?
is he the fat one?
Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
Thank you, thank you, SSS. Thank you for accepting people who act like retards, if not actual retards. by Mitch. on Jun 24, 2010 1:16 PM CDT
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jul 23, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions
teahen
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
by blackoutsox on Jul 23, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions
i am so whoshed
Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
Thank you, thank you, SSS. Thank you for accepting people who act like retards, if not actual retards. by Mitch. on Jun 24, 2010 1:16 PM CDT
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jul 23, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
was looking at kosuke on fangraphs
i thought id like him if only for his defense, but has been a huge disappointment this year.
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
this was my thinkin as well
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game of 2008.
by NorthSidePaulie on Jul 23, 2010 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions
thanks for this cheat
I really liked the allusion to trading teahen back to KC for dejesus
night
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
i think they would take him back too
Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
Thank you, thank you, SSS. Thank you for accepting people who act like retards, if not actual retards. by Mitch. on Jun 24, 2010 1:16 PM CDT
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jul 23, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
asking again
and torrents/links for The Club?
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
MLB runs episode 1 this afternoon
If you want to run the DVR.
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
I believe some of these boonies-dwellers lack MLBN.
Remarkably, they do have The Internets.
"and to think that we're sex games over .500" - blackoutsox
for tdogg
revised BP playoff odds
from july 21st to july 22nd pecota % drop in odds was ~ 8%, now at 61%
you happy now bitch

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 23, 2010 4:22 AM CDT reply actions
Yes I am!
lol… The first thing that jumps out is the difference between the Tigers and White Sox. Yeah I feel pretty confident against them. So go ahead and splurge on Haren boys.
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
i cant help but want to punch you in the face for saying its okay for the tigers to get haren
how can that be any good, or even okay for that mattter?
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
He historicaly tails off post all star break to the tune of about two hole runs to his ERA.
Check his record going back to 2006. It’s uncanny.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
i checked at his era goes up just about 1 in the second half
still, hes a good, good pitcher
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
2009- 2.01 ERA pre ASG, 4.62 post
2008 – 2.72 pre, 4.18 post
2007 – 2.30 pre, 4.15 post
2006 – 3.52 pre, 4.91 post
This guy may be the poster boy for half season splits. He goes from great to serviceable each year after the ASG. He’s definitely not all that and a bag of chips going forward if he follows his track record. In fact, so far for 2010.
2010 – 4.36 pre, 7.36 post
Yeah, Detroit can have him.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
You could at least post his peripherals
whatever to half seasons of ERA. there’s no real good reason I can think that explains why a pitcher might have divergent half splits.
Fireworks: Bang?
by colintj on Jul 23, 2010 5:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
spread the mediocrity around!
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
now you're clearly fucking around.
Cashing checks and having sex. Also doing some light medical diagnoses.
playoffs-yes
otherwise no
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
not try his hardest all the time? sounds like a winning strategy to me.
Cashing checks and having sex. Also doing some light medical diagnoses.
I don't think that is quite comparable.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
what if you ran a mile every 5 days?
Cashing checks and having sex. Also doing some light medical diagnoses.
This.
They can, you know, rest.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
Come on, sir.
You are killing yourself. You don’t think every major leaguer does this? You don’t think his splits have been pointed out to him by someone who cares?
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
that's what i'm saying
if there was an actual issue, i’m sure he’d correct it. i doubt it’s anything.
Fireworks: Bang?
It is one thing
consistent.
I don’t know why, but there it is. It might be in his head now.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
i doubt if you did the math it would be stat.
significant. in that case you need to have to actually scout him or look at peripherals or come up with some very reasonable theory.
Fireworks: Bang?
lol
Boe Im just saying its not enough to get them over the hump and he won’t come cheap at all. Im not rooting for it. Certainly I’d rather see him there instead of the Twins.
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
ok. id much rather see him here haha
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
Pecota for Hudson the rest of the way
Sweet
4.42 ERA 77 IP 78k/31bb 12.9 VORP. Of course that is better than GAVIN FLOYD but my feelings of the pessimistic predicting of the Sox pitchers is well known.
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
Pecota Odds

"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
I don't understand the focus on playoff "odds".
Unless you are laying money down this doesn’t help except to feel good. I know it all goes to “odds” of player performance that forms the basis for the playoff “odds”, but I would rather focus on individual layer “odds” – it reminds me of the packaging of subprime mortgages – too much extrapolation based to too little actual fact. Too dilutive for my taste.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
I thought individual player performance projections made up the team odds.
Seems the “transparency” you desire (and say was lacking in SPM bundles) is right there.
Please correct me if I’m wrong.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
i think that's correct, that's why tdogg was bitching about the delayed update in the team's depth charts
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 23, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep
and you can look at it 3 different ways for whatever floats your boat.
Current stats.
Predicted.
Predicted with an emphasis on recent performance.
Unless you have a substantial piece (like Peavy out for a year still factored in or Cliff Lee added to the Twins) what WU is bitching about is there.
As the depth charts are changed and it gets later in the season you should certainly feel better….
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
But if "projected performace" is added/multiplied/divided,
the standard deviation of the group is larger than it would be for individual performance, no? Thus the team projected results have more margin for error. And when you stack up your team’s larger standard deviation against another team’s larger standard deviation, those results would be skewed more, I would think.
Sorry, I didn’t think I was “bitching” but asking for clarification.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
I didnt mean it in a bad way
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
After your experience I understand your "it's only money" philosophy.
You walk away from divorce with your balls in tact, money is meaningless in the short run. You can always go make more money.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 23, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
bitching was in reference to tdogg you OPOS
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 23, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Exactly
it is layered. Then simulated a million times.
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
And that's what was done in the risk management models projecting mortgage defaults.
“Fat tails”, man. I’m only suggesting that these statistics end up meaning not so much unless you are looking for Sominex to sleep better at night.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 23, 2010 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Well yeah
the games still have to be played. Personally I “feel” better because of PECOTA’s tendency to short change Sox starters on PT. I call it the Herm bonus. All projection systems misread Buerhle.
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
wu has a good point
but I still rather see the sox at 60% than the 30% it was before the hot streak.
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
6%!
man thats the day to be in vegas.
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
yah i heard terry boers on the radio say he got the sox
at 18/1 odds for the series…. somebody called in and said they were 70/1 on june 9th. 70 to fucking 1! I don’t know where to look and see if that is true or not
Kenwo4life=ratings
I heard that as well, and I don't doubt it for a second.
After all, they were dead, as larry said!
"and to think that we're sex games over .500" - blackoutsox
Yeah it doesn't mean alot,
But it’s comforting to look at! I like seeing them high
Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jul 23, 2010 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
it's comfort food damn it take a spoonful and stfu :)
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 23, 2010 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah but they aren't projecting based on numbers for 3 years earlier
and even if they were in those 3 years there hasn’t been a major shift in the way baseball is played which would make those numbers invalid… so the analogy is a bit weak
The analogy was referencing a danger
in taking comfort from computer modeling. I agree with Gus – 60% is better than 30%, yet it still is meaningless unless you are betting.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 23, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
its not meaningless
You can do a fair amount of planning and assessment of strengths in modeling and of course the later we are in schedule the more accurate it is.
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
Philosophically, though, to what end?
Do you feel better when you are 60% projected to win or 40% projected to win? You feel better when you win, period. The only ones who depend upon the numbers are the ones wagering on it (owners, marketers, vendors, managers, and yes, creaters of the systems, et. al.). Me, I like the analysis but at the end of the day I generally suspend that when I am watching the game. I don’t claim to be a GM or manager wanna-be.
I know, torches and pitchforks. I like the poetry and the competition more than the numbers. It’s the emotional aspect of the game that makes it fun for me.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 23, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Well again I don't have a problem with you saying this
games are played on paper. Im just saying its not meaningless.
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
Sheehan recently suggested that the real hole is at leadoff position.
That eliminating Pierre at the top with even league average OBP would make the most impact on Sox runs created. Also that those guys are easily found and wouldn’t cost much.
Just throwing it out there.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
by Chiburb on Jul 23, 2010 6:07 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
i think there are many of us that would agree to that
but is no fucking way, barring injury, that pierre is not leading off..so why waste words over it?
my sense is that ozzie felt burned with the swisher ‘experiment’. he won’t repeat it again while he is manager here.
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 23, 2010 6:12 AM CDT up reply actions
DeAza?
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
this year?
otherwise, pencil pierre in at #1
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 23, 2010 6:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Pecota pretty much expects Pierre to provide league avg or above OBP at the top for the rest of the season
.287/.350/.360
Even if you don’t buy that high, .340 for the rest of the season is likely. Yeah focus elsewhere.
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
this sort of stuff really overcomplicates things.
the white sox should simply find the best hitter available, within whatever prospects/money constraints they have. when a team is generally getting horseshit from the DH spot, it’s not exactly difficult to upgrade the team.
if the sox are looking at scott
they may be constrained by chicago’s gun ordinance. that guy’s a menace!
hey swisher...........you know.
“Barring a tactical entry where terrorists come in and hold us hostage, that’s about the only thing that could possibly warrant me carrying a gun in the clubhouse. That’s highly unlikely, and I admit that. But my personal belief is I don’t want to suffer from the poor choices of others.”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/03/01/luke-scott-brought-guns-i_n_481343.html
"Thank god Scott had a gun in his locker! He saved us from the terrorists!"
…Is something I don’t think will be stated.
Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jul 23, 2010 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions
How many terrorists have attacked the Orioles' clubhouse?
Zero.
Luke Scott: 100% Effective Terrorism Deterrent
by joewho112 on Jul 23, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Luke Scott is the reason Bin Laden is hiding
"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe
How many terrorists have attacked the Sox' clubhouse?
Zero.
Carlos Quentin’s Q!nicorn: 100% Effective Terrorism Deterrent.
Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jul 23, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
that's pretty whack alright
or is it “wack”
Kind of like “wail/whale on you”. I see the latter more often but the large marine mammal makes less sense than the scream to me.
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game of 2008.
by NorthSidePaulie on Jul 23, 2010 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
baltimore is a tough place
"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe
it's likely he didn't live in the city
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 23, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
What gun ordinance?
Supreme Court says Scott can play here.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
i would do that in a heartbeat
"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe
hence why i said i would do that in a heartbeat
never said that would happen in real life
"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe
Rany:
Brian Anderson, who after five seasons in the major leagues as an outfielder, decided this spring that he wanted to become a pitcher – and the Royals, inexplicably, agreed. I say "inexplicably" because the Royals had just signed him to a $700,000 contract, and I don’t think they anticipated paying him to learn a new craft in rookie ball, which is what he is doing. He’s pitched well so far – four innings, two hits, no walks, five strikeouts. If the Royals wanted to convert a hitter into a pitcher, they should have kept Tony Pena Jr.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
by Chiburb on Jul 23, 2010 6:40 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
I like the idea of Luke Scott or DeJesus,
even though I can’t stand DeJesus because of how he seems to kill the Sox. One more ex-Royal on our team makes me retch. Scott looks nice and rested after his stint on the DL. Fielder costs too much from a personnel standpoint, and with the now sunk cost of Peavy producing nothing I don’t think another $20MM is doable.
Now, I will continue to live life in the exact same way I have been, just to appease the gods. Seriously, I will suck the dick of karma ten times over to see the good guys keep up this stellar play for the rest of the season.
by Campbell32
he's doing well off the dl
7/16 with 2 HRs
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 23, 2010 7:16 AM CDT up reply actions
fuck luke scott.
also, seems that no one has mentioned that dejesus is injured.
hey swisher...........you know.
Was not aware he was seeing a hand specialist.
Cross him off.
Now, I will continue to live life in the exact same way I have been, just to appease the gods. Seriously, I will suck the dick of karma ten times over to see the good guys keep up this stellar play for the rest of the season.
by Campbell32
Saw it on SportsCenter.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 23, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
olney just tweeted:
thinks best case he missed two weeks, worst case surgery required, misses 6 weeks
If the Phils are asking for B.J. Upton to get Werth
Is it sacrilege to suggest trading Q to the Phils for Werth and then pursuing Scott or Dunn with prospects to bag Kotsayd’h? We could upgrade both and since Werth is an Illinois boy, maybe we could sign him long term as well.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
Can't believe I'm saying this...
but considering the realistic combination of players that we’re hearing to get any of the top talent (and fully recognizing that fans tend to fall in love with their own players), I think the White Sox should simply stand pat. The Sox just can’t bury themselves with too many big salaries. Beckhan and Hudson will be cheap for years (and good for years, in my humble opinion). Please, feel free to ridicule me.
No I don't think standing pat is a bad idea.
I mean I think besides that Scott/Tejada proposed trade, we’re taking a pretty big risk with most of these trades. They’re just too expensive, and I don’t think plugging holes by taking a cork out of another hole is a great idea.
Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jul 23, 2010 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree that "top talent" costs too much, and if that's all KW is looking at then he should stand pat.
But:
1. “Top talent” isn’t needed to improve on Kotsay/Jones/Pierre. “League average” is a huge uptick over those messes.
2. The Sox aren’t playing in a vacuum. Are the Twinks/Tigers going to address their needs? In a smart way? “Top talent” way? If not, stand pat. If so, KW may have to seek same.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
Yeah, because of reason 2,
I don’t see a trade happening until the very last minute.
Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jul 23, 2010 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions
A lot of dominoes will fall next Saturday.
Don’t believe any rumors between now and then. Lots of agents, general managers, and other assorted interested parties will float trial balloons via their bought and paid for sportswriters between now and the deadline.
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
Any of those bought and paid for people radio guys? ; )
Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jul 23, 2010 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Totally
I’m not one of ’em…but when hosts talk about “their sources,” you can bet “their sources” have an ulterior motive.
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
The sage advice from one in the industry.
Now, I will continue to live life in the exact same way I have been, just to appease the gods. Seriously, I will suck the dick of karma ten times over to see the good guys keep up this stellar play for the rest of the season.
by Campbell32
If someone is wants to give you confidential information, they are not doing it out of the goodness of their own heart.
They want their version of the truth to go public.
I’m not saying it’s a bad thing…
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
I fully understand the "hidden agenda" -
as a fiduciary you have to do a self-examination of your own agenda at all times and disclose it to your paying customers. I know the game. I’m saying you, as one of your ilk, are perhaps less than objective yeself, unless you don’t have sources. In which case, get to work developing those sources!
;)
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
Yeah I agree
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
"Very little cost except money" is sigworthy.
I’m gonna do it.
Now, I will continue to live life in the exact same way I have been, just to appease the gods. Seriously, I will suck the dick of karma ten times over to see the good guys keep up this stellar play for the rest of the season.
by Campbell32
at max, I'd like to see a spare parts trade like the BA/Kotsay trade last year
and hope to catch lightning in a bottle. Or at least an exposed lampcord in a bottle.
A Dunn-type trade is only going to be chasing good money after bad, compounding the foolishness of passing on Thome.
His name is Rios and he dances on the sand
This.
“Lightning in a bottle” is a great expression. It was once used to describe one of my first fantasy players, Oddibe McDowell. (It was a poor description.)
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
A nice part of my winning LaSalle Street Rotisserie League winner in '87.
As was a rookie CF named Williams, Kenneth.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
This is why I am anti standing pat
There are too many options that could improve our middling offense without much cost. I will be very disappointed if we don’t at least get a serviceable lefty power bat like Scott or Cust.
Maybe if we pound Oakland all weekend, we can convince Jack Cust to sneak on board the team jet and just defect.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
Maybe you "reply fialed", but the 'stand pat' suggestion was in lieue of seeking 'top talent' at too high a price.
I think you’d agree that Cust doesn’t qualify as “top”.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
I most certainly did fial
That was for palehose. And I agree in not going top line like Prince Fielder. Though, as mentioned above, I would love me some Werth.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
Yeah, these rumors make no sense
from the standpoint of what you’d have to give up. I don’t see anything happening till the last moment, and only then if a seller blinks and drops their asking price. Fortunately most other contenders are, as usual, looking for pitching – we’re about only one looking for fat, lumbering LH white dudes. I wouldn’t be surprised to see one them fall in our lap for cheap.
I am become Q! Destroyer of Worlds
Of course, amid all the rumors,
I take some comfort in the fact that in the past when KW makes a deal, we usually haven’t heard much about it prior to the actual deal. All the “noise” beforehand is usually just noise. And by “noise” I mean “fills up much needed air space for sports talk radio.”
I'd look for someone looking to make a salary dump
like we did with Thome last year. I don’t see is giving up whatever limited young talent there is in the system.
I am become Q! Destroyer of Worlds
Except I haven't seen them this year. Mentioned "Goggles" to a Royals fan and he didn't have a clue what I was on about.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
don't tell me he's wearing contacts now?
there goes his personality
I am become Q! Destroyer of Worlds
by ChicagoPete on Jul 23, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
its because they did NOTHING!
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
by e-gus on Jul 23, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
I laughed
"i need to watch this harry potter movie on tv on acid."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 15, 2010 3:30 PM CDT
I have witnessed the 2005 World Series championship, Mark Buehrle's perfect game, and the 2010 Chicago Blackhawks Stanley Cup championship in my lifetime.
by chisoxfan1473 on Jul 23, 2010 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Up and atom.
DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 23, 2010 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions
As opposed to Radiation Dude
With his far more lame “Up and lets go.”
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
Rumors from last trading deadline
All quotes from MLBTR:
July 26th:
The White Sox could pull off something big because GM Kenny Williams “has a bit of gambler in him.”
July 25th:
According to MLB.com’s Scott Merkin, the White Sox aren’t likely to add “a major piece to their playoff puzzle” before the trade deadline.
July 24th:
(George) Sherrill is also on the White Sox’s radar.
July 24th:
The White Sox have some interest in Holliday,
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
if we get holliday
itd be 6 years from now
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
boy do they need to
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
no way man
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
Serously... You don't mess with that opening.
"We can't do it easy. But we may as well do it high." -The Cheat
by South Side Expat on Jul 23, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
My god, what a horrid sentiment.
AC/DC is Teh Awesomeness
"and to think that we're sex games over .500" - blackoutsox
i enjoy me some acdc, but thunderstruck is probably the 2nd most overrated/overplayed song of all time
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
That's new AC/DC.
Old is better. As in most valuable things.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
the 1st being sweet child of mine
guns and roses fucking sucked. and still do, for that matter
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
Yeah.
Appetite for Destruction ruled the world for about 2 years.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
These clowns are insane. For my money, AC/DC is the greatest hard rock band there has ever been.
Appetite is in my top 5 albums. FBJ – not our hefty closer.
"and to think that we're sex games over .500" - blackoutsox
I have to concur with this.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
There is nothing hard about men who sing higher than women
Metallica understood this.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
Metallica is dead to me
ever since they ruined free music.
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
DTY?
Life is too short. And you are a Communist if you don’t believe people should be paid by someone using their art.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
fuck lars. couldnt even cut it as a tennis player
a tennis player! i was never than into the long haired crap anyway. DTM.
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
You are very funny for a SSS OPOS.
;)
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
whoa whoa whoa
i said thunderstruck was overrated and over played. i never said anything that goes against acdc. FYRCS
thats fuck your reading comprehensive skills, pal
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
Fine.
But you chased it by blasting GNR unnecessarily. And a couple of your fellow music-tards piled on, and I got a little amped up. Apologies.
"and to think that we're sex games over .500" - blackoutsox
gnr still fuckin sucks
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
Now go get me my shine box!
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
As said music tard
I do not back down from my post. Male Sopranos weren’t cool until David Chase came along.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
Obviously you can't distinguish between screaming and singing in a high-pitched voice.
We are not discussing REO fucking Speedwagon. Brian Johnson and Bon Scott both “sang” lower-tempo songs in relatively deep voices. But the higher-octane stuff was them screaming, not singing in a high pitch.
Even still, you’re wrong.
"and to think that we're sex games over .500" - blackoutsox
Scorpions, UFO, Rainbow
Oh man…it’s my high school days all over again!
"Unemployment benefits are creating jobs faster than practically any other program...It injects demand into the economy... It creates jobs faster than almost any other initiative you can name."
- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (7/1/10) – God help us.
Rock Bottom is an awesome, awesome song. I've wanted it to be on Guitar Hero since it came out
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Pearl Jam, STP, Nirvana,
Vocals man. They make great music sound even better.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
They also make great music sound unintelligible
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
STP was okay. Nirvana was good.
Pearl Jam was/is/whatever a hideous assault on music. FEV
"and to think that we're sex games over .500" - blackoutsox
Completely disagree.
My wife andI bonded over “Ten”. She still buys every new CD they put out. (Even though she doesn’t.)
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
Jesus fuck,
that is cold. And inaccurate.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
oh come on it went from motley crue
and wild fucking parties…. to kurt cobain and everyone being depressed and all the broads wearing long sleeve flannel shirts… fuck that douchebag.
Kenwo4life=ratings
Yeah, Cinderella and Winger
should be lionized. It was done. Nirvana brought back raw rock and roll. You liked fucking lipstick bands, KW? FFS.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 23, 2010 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i wish it had been courtney love instead.
Cashing checks and having sex. Also doing some light medical diagnoses.
by MarketMaker on Jul 23, 2010 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
then grow a pair and listen to better songs
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
Thunderstruck is a stupid song, but you can't argue its awesomeness in the context of Sox games.
If I had a choice the only music at games would be Faust and Wu-Tang.
DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 23, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm gonna have a video montage set to the pirates of the caribean/Thunderstruck
played as the wedding party introduction at the reception. Already working on it.
"We can't do it easy. But we may as well do it high." -The Cheat
by South Side Expat on Jul 23, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
remind me to miss those home games.
"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jul 23, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
krautrock at the cell, are you fucking kidding me
faust, can, throbbing gristle, amon duul, neu!, kraftwerk was meant to play on record player at home, that’s it…
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 23, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Um....Nancy Faust?
DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 23, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
whoosh!
i was really hoping for colin to take the bait
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 23, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Unless you were wooshing me, in that case woosh.
DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 23, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Forward your resume to Scott Reifert asap
Fireworks: Bang?
by colintj on Jul 23, 2010 5:22 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Great points on Hudson Cheat
I love the whole thing about being a 3-4 and learning how to be a 1-2. Hudson ability to K and his tendency to keep the ball down really makes me think I would rather hold on to him….
Folks can argue about rather it’s a skill to limit HRs but whatever it is this staff does it and well.
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
In our park, limiting HRs is key
I shudder when I hear people suggesting trades for flyball pitchers.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
re: HRs
this was supposed to be an issue for danks, who is in the top 10 this year thus far at keeping it inside the park
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 23, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
its the humidor
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
nah, them bible thumpers in colorado use the humidor
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 23, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Heyman (who sounds like Boras' guy, BTW)
The White Sox also covet Prince Fielder, but Dunn, Adam LaRoche and Lance Berkman (in that order) are the next players on their list, according to Jon Heyman of SI.com (via Twitter).
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
I really dont want LaRoche.
gut feeling.
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
It's the French name, isn't it?
Or the egregious salary commitment?
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
the rock!
nah i like the translation, its that I just think he sucks.
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
La'Roche is the lilliest way to say rock ever.
He should go German and make it Stein, thus sounding tougher and being more easily linked to festive drinking. Maybe then, he could be a Sox.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
on sencond thought I want him. could you imagine the line up
the rock
rivers
lil’ bridge
most zen batting order of all time.
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
by e-gus on Jul 23, 2010 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
sencond is right after second but before third in case you are wondering
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
love me some lil'bridge too
But I don’t think he bats clean up or fifth no matter how zen the combination.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
green please
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game of 2008.
by NorthSidePaulie on Jul 24, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Stein sounds Jewish.
Pass. Not enough good Jewish athletes.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
This better not lead to another challenge outside of the cell.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
by justjc on Jul 23, 2010 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He loves me, even if he did declare me dead for a week.
We good.
"and to think that we're sex games over .500" - blackoutsox
IT'S GO TIME!
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
Love me some Hebrew Hammer though
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game of 2008.
by NorthSidePaulie on Jul 24, 2010 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Does anyone honestly believe...
that Prince Fielder would be a good defensive player at DH?
by palehose67 on Jul 23, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
nice
Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
Thank you, thank you, SSS. Thank you for accepting people who act like retards, if not actual retards. by Mitch. on Jun 24, 2010 1:16 PM CDT
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jul 23, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I hear his offensive at the buffet table
Yes, I know, he got chubby eating salad…bwaaa ha haaaa!
"Unemployment benefits are creating jobs faster than practically any other program...It injects demand into the economy... It creates jobs faster than almost any other initiative you can name."
- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (7/1/10) – God help us.
his = he's
Doh!
"Unemployment benefits are creating jobs faster than practically any other program...It injects demand into the economy... It creates jobs faster than almost any other initiative you can name."
- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (7/1/10) – God help us.
who sounds like Boras' guy is a HUGE understatement by the way.
He is Boras’ mouthpiece.
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
he's totally on boras' payroll
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 23, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
this is blasphemy
check out the btb rankings
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 23, 2010 10:44 AM CDT reply actions
that list is a joke
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
wow Twins fan much?
Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''
No other list ever will you see the Twins even sniffing #3.
Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jul 23, 2010 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
just blasphamy
Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''
i know one list where they're #3 and i'm perfectly OK with that. ecstatic, even.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Jul 23, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 7 recs
Are you jacked up for the game yet?
9:15 AM. If you want to keep up with Toonder and HSA you’d better start drinking.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 23, 2010 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
i'm still at work. flight's not until just past lunch o'clock.
however, i’m seeing a liquid lunch in my future.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Jul 23, 2010 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions
terrible.
whatever formula they are using for that does not work properly.
hey swisher...........you know.
Sox Needs
I don’t agree that not signing Jim Thome was a mistake. I love Jim, he gave 100%. However, we have Andruw Jones who has more HR’s than Thome. If Quentin can stay healthy, our hitting should be fine. If there is a great deal for Adam Dunn (not giving up Beckam or Hudson) we should take it. However, if we stand pat, that is not the worst thing at this point. It would be nice to get someone in the bullpen who could replace Linestink, however.
except for that play the other night...that was awesome
Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''
And he fucking smiles right through it.
Makes it worse.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 23, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
i actually enjoy that.
if i was playing major league baseball, i’d have a grin like i just stole something, too.
by larry on Jul 23, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It bothers me that it is not me.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 23, 2010 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions
heheh
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 23, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree with larry...I'm writing it down in my journal
Hit .300 – get paid
Hit .200 – get paid
Make a spectacular catch – get paid
Make an error – get paid
ERA = 1.00 – get paid
ERA = 8.00 – get paid
Lose your mind and get sent to anger management camp – get paid really well
"Unemployment benefits are creating jobs faster than practically any other program...It injects demand into the economy... It creates jobs faster than almost any other initiative you can name."
- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (7/1/10) – God help us.
Replacing Linebrink isn't even on the radar of trade priorities
I mean, really? We’re talking trades here, and you want to replace our 5th best reliever?
This team needs some damn bats. Preferably those that get on base. And preferably some bats with a glove that can play RF.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions
wrong wrong wrong wrong
wrong wrong wrong wrong
youre wroooonngggg
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
OT: So what are you guy's thoughts as A-Rod closes in on #600?
I tend to like hate him less than Bonds, just bc we no know he’s off the stuff and he’s still putting up huge numbers. Dont get me wrong, I hate the guys guts. But compared to Bonds he’s not as bad.
Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''
I think he can go have gay butt sex with the rest of the yankees
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
by blackoutsox on Jul 23, 2010 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
at least some people pay attention to me.
"from the Chi, the city of hella haters, where we keep rising to the top like elevators. Hi haters I'm back off hiatus." - grammy family
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 23, 2010 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions
you've been having gay butt sex with the yankees?
Cashing checks and having sex. Also doing some light medical diagnoses.
by MarketMaker on Jul 23, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
no the part about using homophobic slurs to be funny...
"from the Chi, the city of hella haters, where we keep rising to the top like elevators. Hi haters I'm back off hiatus." - grammy family
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 23, 2010 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't like him at all.
But yeah I hate Bonds, Sosa, McGwire even more.
Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jul 23, 2010 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Also, good thing we brought Lillibridge up.
You KNOW the minor league blood tests would’ve caught him.
Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jul 23, 2010 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i always liked sosa and mcgwire.... bonds too
I’m for bringing juicing back. things were more exciting that way
Kenwo4life=ratings
fuck arod.
and yeah, maybe he’s off steroids but who knows what the fuck else he may be on. also, right field in yankee stadium is 135 feet from home plate. fuck him, fuck nick swisher and the fuck the fucking yankees
hey swisher...........you know.
by BuehrleMan on Jul 23, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
My thoughts are holy shit the Yankees are going to regret his contract in a huge way.
DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 23, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Not so far.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
He's no longer an elite offensive player, and 3B is not exactly the ideal place for an aging vet to play out a career.
They could stick him at DH in a few years, but that doesn’t make it any better.
Obviously, they’re the Yankees so “bad contract” is a bit subjective there. But, paying him 20 million in 2017 is kind of insane.
DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 23, 2010 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Omar Vizquel would disagree with you
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
I'm being a selective prick
like everyone else. How’dya like me now?
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
the talk of Dunn/Fielder seems silly
Clearly, the White Sox aren’t looking for a defensive liability who can put up big Power and Walk numbers. If they did, they would have resigned Thome for cheap.
It looks like Kenny & Ozzie want a Kotsay-esque player that is actually good. All of this leads me to believe that only Luke Scott makes sense and he shouldn’t cost too much.
by shaftr on Jul 23, 2010 11:45 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Except for the whole hand injury
Then of course they could get Dunn and let him DH so his defense doesn’t matter. It might mean admitting the rotating DH was a bad idea, but it would also mean a stronger team.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
What hand injury? I thought he pulled a hammy on a HR trot.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
hand injury is dejesus
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
Ah ha, then bring him on.
He can bring a 50 cal with him as long as he hits the ball out of the park or at least avoids inning ending double plays at a better clip than Kotsayd’h.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
Good conclusion.
I agree.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 23, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Shouldn't they just make Quentin the full time DH
and train Dayan up to be a right fielder? We could then get someone on the cheap to do the splits with him – errr i fink
Ollie and Stan's ability to make everyone laugh throughout their careers was truly a gift and they will never be forgotten.
i fink. therefore i fam.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
by Chiburb on Jul 23, 2010 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
what time to you post over there?
it seems like you never sleep
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
by blackoutsox on Jul 23, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions
well it's 18:14 now
which seems a perfectly reasonable time to post on here – maybe I’m missing something!
I get to see the games on a weekend and day games – the west coast games I often catch the end as I get up early to put the cat out and get ready to cycle to work.
Any other game I miss cos I’m asleep
not chicago tough.
also, if you have time, please explain to me how transfers work in the epl. is it sometimes as simple as a player saying “i want to play somewhere else”? what the hell is milner up to? seems he’s fucking with my man o’neill.
hey swisher...........you know.
yes it is that simple
agent goes to club and says ’ my man wants a move ’ – after that 99 times out of a hundred he leaves. Milner is off because at Manchester City he (and his agent) will have more money than most people can dream of.
can you explain the "on loan" aspect of soccer?
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
yes
player can’t get a game because he usually plays for a top club and his position is being filled by a better player, another club will ‘loan’ that player by paying his salary although the contract is still owned by the parent club. Player gets more competitive experience – which helps the top clubs and they save a few bob as well.
english: we speak it differently
but i get it, thanks man!
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
how is that usually received over there?
players over here don’t often just come out and say something like that. (except for buehrle of course who wants to be on the cardinals) if a player over here who is under contract, just before a season began, said something like “i want to play for the red sox” he would get crucified.
hey swisher...........you know.
the teams with the most money always get their man
they will get a load of shit once a season when they play at the old club – but it’s commonplace, the top players get to play for whoever they want to – the contracts mean fuck all
Is Chris Paul getting crucified?
I dont see it.
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
He is by the national press.
But he also plays in a small market. I have no idea what the NO press/patrons are saying.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
He is by the national press.
But he also plays in a small market. I have no idea what the NO press/patrons are saying.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
aw c'mon buddy
i think youre somebody
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
Or why not give Viciedo some time at DH?
No sense in Kotsay taking away good ABs and causing double playing ending innings.
"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe
Low risk.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
no but he can play a corner spot
and hit for some power
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
Thank you, Cheat.
It may have taken you a month to reply to my plea on the SSS facebook board, but you were wise to wait. Since I’ve asked for this guide, Peavy and Raaaaandy have gone down, Nix has been waived, Hudson has come up, Viciedo has come up, and Threets has come up. The landscape has changed, and our trade chits have changed as well.
I also like that you realize that the Sox should target a bat capable of playing RF better than Q! I was tired of carrying the banner for that discussion.
After DeJesus got hurt, my target list looks like (in order of my preferences based on what it would cost to acquire, what they would provide offensively and defensively):
1) Shin-Soo Choo
2) Luke Scott
3) Marlon Byrd
4) Lance Berkman
5) Corey Hart
6) Garrett Jones
7) Adam LaRoche
8) Russell Branyan
9) Adam Dunn
10) Prince Fielder
I simply don’t see Dunn or Fielder coming here. The price is just too much, that’s why they’re at the bottom of my list.
Now, no one mentioned Shin-Soo Choo. Cleveland is pretty bad, and Choo is arb-eligible (again? or a frea agent?) after this year. He’s currently on the DL with a thumb injury, but expected to be back soon. The one hurdle is Scott Boras. Choo can likely make some bigger bucks after this year, but we’re only caring about this year.
Then there’s Marlon Byrd. Cubs are out of it, and Byrd is an unnecessary luxury for a team that ain’t going anywhere. Tyler Colvin needs AB’s every day. Byrd’s contract, while not unfriendly for the Cubs in 2011, looks better for the White Sox. Cubs aren’t competing in 2011 either with a new manager and likely a revamped roster.
Garrett Jones ain’t not spring chicken, either. He’s arbitration eligible again next year, I believe, too. Pirates may be willing to move him for some younger prospects. Morel, maybe? ZiPS (RoS) looks pretty favorable for him.
So there you go. Threw in some more names for you. Before ya’ll go ape-shit over my Shin-Soo Choo, Byrd, and Jones comments, consider how much they’re asking for Dunn and Fielder. We’d be robbing Peter to pay Paul.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 12:19 PM CDT reply actions
choo would be wonderfull
and ive thought it a few times, then i think theres no way in shit the injuns send him to us
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
Why wouldn't they?
He just turned 28
Do you see the Indians playing .500 baseball next year? Or even in 2012?
They tried working out a long-term deal this off-season, and Boras balked at their offers. He’s entering his final arb-eligible season, and Boras will be asking for a substantial raise from $475K.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Inter-division.
KW and Schapiro are pretty competitive folks. I doubt this happens.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 23, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I doubt it happens too.
But it makes a lot of sense to at least ask and pursue it.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I think Kenny should choo choo choose him

"Unemployment benefits are creating jobs faster than practically any other program...It injects demand into the economy... It creates jobs faster than almost any other initiative you can name."
- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (7/1/10) – God help us.
by tailgater on Jul 23, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Embracing your sig,
I am going to help grow the economy by quitting my job and going on unemployment.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
Hell yes...126 weeks of free money! Why not?
"Unemployment benefits are creating jobs faster than practically any other program...It injects demand into the economy... It creates jobs faster than almost any other initiative you can name."
- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (7/1/10) – God help us.
What ever would your employer do without you sitting at work posting on SSS all day???
"and to think that we're sex games over .500" - blackoutsox
I am off today,
wasting my day with you guys. And I don’t post from work – the site is blocked. Fucking China. I can mobile post, but I type worse on a BlackBerry than my laptop.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
your coworkers probably wonder why it takes you a half hour to take a shit.
little do they know you are battling WTGTD on South Side Sox Sb nation blog.
"from the Chi, the city of hella haters, where we keep rising to the top like elevators. Hi haters I'm back off hiatus." - grammy family
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 23, 2010 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions
you cant get it if you quit.
"from the Chi, the city of hella haters, where we keep rising to the top like elevators. Hi haters I'm back off hiatus." - grammy family
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 23, 2010 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Looks like you have a future in unemployment consulting, sir.
Put down the pipe and market yourself.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
you can only get it if you are laid off i believe?
or if you tear a colleague a new asshole in an email.
"from the Chi, the city of hella haters, where we keep rising to the top like elevators. Hi haters I'm back off hiatus." - grammy family
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 23, 2010 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, you cannot collect if you quit or are terminated for cause.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
in illinois
you would go before a judge to determine the legitimacy of your case.
"from the Chi, the city of hella haters, where we keep rising to the top like elevators. Hi haters I'm back off hiatus." - grammy family
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 23, 2010 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions
if you quit your job...
"from the Chi, the city of hella haters, where we keep rising to the top like elevators. Hi haters I'm back off hiatus." - grammy family
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 23, 2010 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
you are a cold hearted son of a bitch
if you don’t support the extension.
You never truly know someone’s situation. Not everyone is sitting on their ass not looking…
"from the Chi, the city of hella haters, where we keep rising to the top like elevators. Hi haters I'm back off hiatus." - grammy family
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 23, 2010 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah. His comment almost makes me want to unleash the fury thru my keyboard
Total ignorance from someone who hasn’t been laid off and can’t find a job.
Unemployment “benefits” are below poverty level pay. Yes, below poverty level. It’s not like people sit on their ass, enjoy their benefits, and go out livin’ the life. Sittin’ on their ass all day, smokin’ weed, sippin’ beer, and golfing or some shit. Try living on $800 a month. You’ll see how quickly you can’t afford to pay for prescriptions, health/dental/car/life/rental insurances, car payments, electricity, etc. Breaking the bank to go out to eat is going to Applebee’s and splitting a 2 for $20 with someone.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Wasn't talking about WU's comment, fyi
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Doesn't he still have service time to fulfill in Korea though.
Also, where was Jayson Werth? I’d take him even over service free Choo.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
whoosh
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
yeah, should have kept reading first.
This is what happens when you leave for lunch
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
I left off Werth because I don't think the Phils are moving him this season.
They’ve reportedly been asking a lot. Something that would take away substantially from the 2010 White Sox 25 man roster. That’s why I left him off.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions
I would give up Q for him
Which is as good a deal as what they reportedly asked from Tampa with B.J. Upton.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
You'd give up Q! for Werth?
Okay. So we’re still DH-ing Kotsay/Jones. You going to leave them, or trade more for a DH?
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
Use prospects to get a DH like Scott or Dunn.
I still think Washington will come down on asking price the longer he stalls extension talks.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
how in the holy fuck is Werth better than Q?
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
Are you kidding?
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
Defense would be the easiest palce to go here
Health also comes to mind. You maybe lose a little slugging, but not much.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
I see it as more of a push.
we need to improve, not move laterally
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
Werth allows a lot more flexibility.
Q! is Dye-esque in RF. Werth plays an average RF. Getting Werth to play RF allows the Sox to go cheap and get a proper DH, like Scott. It certainly makes the team better.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
except we have Q! beyond this year.
Which I like.
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
Werth, though mired in a bit of a slump,
is at least 4 tools, if not all 5. Q is 2 – power and a decent arm. I’d take Werth if we could get him, but I doubt we can get him.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
Q!s got the arm strength
but barring that one double play he had in 08 where the threw out the guy at 1st who didnt tag up, ive yet to see any accuracy.
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
or any power
"from the Chi, the city of hella haters, where we keep rising to the top like elevators. Hi haters I'm back off hiatus." - grammy family
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 23, 2010 7:10 PM CDT up reply actions
No one is doing anything with Choo until they know what happening with him
Dude may miss 2 whole seasons.
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
Wait, what?
He’s supposed to be in the lineup today. That’s what everyone’s reporting. What are you talking about, 2 seasons? It’s a sprained thumb?
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
mandatory military commitment
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
Oh. Man, he'll apply for U.S. citizenship
He’d be retarded not to. If not he’d be leaving soon after this season, missing 2 years of his prime. Boras will talk him into staying once he tells him how much money he’ll make.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
You know how long it takes to become a citizen these days,
even with connections? 3-5 years.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 23, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
3-5 years? Where do you hear that from?
I’ve read 12-15 months. For normal people. The wait time is mostly because of the paperwork and interview process. He has a few HUGE advantages over the average Mexican:
He’s one of the most well-known South Korean men over here.
He has money.
His situation is unique.
His agent is Scott Boras. Aside from having an entire legal team at his disposal, among them the greatest baseball agent in the game, you telling me he can’t get him nationalized within 3-5 years?
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I hear from the people who actually have hired lawyers
and are atempting to gain citizenship. There is a huge fucking logjam for green cards and citizenship apps. Huge. One of my friends is an immigration attorney, originally a Canadian citizen, and it took him 2 years – in 2001.
It’s worse now.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 23, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Okay... I realize estimates from the government agency are at best tenuous...
But this article is from September 2008:
Cleveland is listed then at 6.8 months.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you recall what happened 9/08?
The implosion of financial markets worldwide. Forget that estimate, and talk with people who are going through the process. Do NOT trust government “estimates”. I can’t even get GMAC to return my calls about a short sale house we are trying to buy. Red tape abounds everywhere.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
This all seems premature
I mean Choo has to want to change his citizenship.
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
I'm just pointing out facts,
not suggesting Choo is available. I already think Schapiro will not work with Kenny.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
Change citizenship? Too much paperwork.
Just hang around a couple of more years…amnesty is on the way!
"Unemployment benefits are creating jobs faster than practically any other program...It injects demand into the economy... It creates jobs faster than almost any other initiative you can name."
- House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (7/1/10) – God help us.
get married
it still takes that long, but gives a pass on deportation…
Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
Thank you, thank you, SSS. Thank you for accepting people who act like retards, if not actual retards. by Mitch. on Jun 24, 2010 1:16 PM CDT
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jul 23, 2010 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions
That is a brutal, brutal suggestion.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 23, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
ha yes it is...and i dont think thats his last option as shoeless had
numerous other points…
and the 3-5 yrs or less i think may be spot on for him or other fortunate ones, but my dad was an immigration agent and i saw the norm being 5-7 yrs. shit that one lady (106 y/o i believe) who had all the anchor babys has been here decades and just received her citizenship earlier this week/last week…
Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
Thank you, thank you, SSS. Thank you for accepting people who act like retards, if not actual retards. by Mitch. on Jun 24, 2010 1:16 PM CDT
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jul 23, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure, I don't doubt it could take a while.
Especially if someone doesn’t stay on top of their agencies’ office. Boras would pull as many strings as possible. It would also be a national news issue. There’d be pressure.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions
You are a magical thinker.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
I think you underestimate the national hoopla that would be raised
and also underestimate what Boras can do.
And also misunderstand that SK isn’t going to deport him this season, which is what we’re looking to improve.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions
National hoopla? Over a Cleveland baseball player?
They don’t even give a shit in Cleveland.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
Outside of fantasy baseball circles
Choo is just not a celebrity of that proportion.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
lol. Who cares what team he plays for unless it's the Yankees or Red Sox?
It’d be receiving Favre-like attention in NY and Boston.
but ESPN would still be covering it. It’s certainly national news worthy. Anything that brings attention to South Korea and their military news worthy these days. an MLB player (who would’ve been Cleveland’s all star this year, if healthy) leaving the game mid-prime to go over there to serve would be national news
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Not the knid of national news that would rile and rally U.S. citizens across the nation
to demand his instant citizenship.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
The news would be "Why Should U.S. Care About Korea When One Of Its Own Is A Draft Dodger"?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
"American Lives At Risk So Choo Can Play Baseball"
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
by Chiburb on Jul 23, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
2nd draft is way better
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
I wouldn't go that far
I think there would be a story and most people would shrug and say, “well, sucks to be him.”
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
I'd expect the public to ask why Ted, Kenny, Carlos, Moe
and numerous others had to serve and this Korean ingrate doesn’t.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
You have a lot of faith in the public's knowledge on this subject
I think most of them would quickly realize it doesn’t effect them and move on,
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
You are misreading the public mood in a number of ways,
but you are exactly wrong in one way – the public is turning its back on celebrity “perks”. There is a ton of social acrimony towards “the rich” getting favorable treatment (about time). Your expected reaction (outcry for him to be favored) is exactly the opposite of what would happen (outcry about favoritism).
Read the papers. It is not a good time to be a favored celebrity.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
lol. You crotchety old man...
We’re not talking about Lindsay Lohan getting reduced jail sentences or a cushy jail. We’re not talking about an NFL quarterback getting paid millions and millions and beating women and sexually assaulting them.
We’re talking about a family man, playing a national pastime, getting paid around league minimum, who simply doesn’t want to give up 2 years of his prime to go do something where he might get shot, or even worse, killed.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Like Ted Williams or Carlos May or numerous others?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
It is one thing to accept being drafted when there is a war on
It is another when there isn’t. Unless NK invades, I think most people give him a pass on this.
I think when you are a citizen of a country
where there is a hot zone, anda draft is part and parcel of being a citizen, you shut the fuck up if you are not a citizen of that country.
Just like I want no one from SK telling me we should have a draft. Reciprocity is a beautiful thing when it means minding your own country’s business.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
“you shut the fuck up if you are not a citizen of that country” says the guy who just posted about 20 messages on the subject
Nice riposte.
So what does it mean? Have I stated anything else that conflicts with that premise? We cantalkabout it all day – discourse is fine. But it isn’t advocating any law change.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
I was advocating anything
I just stated my belief that people hold different opinions of draft dodging based on whether there is an active conflict.
I didn't know we were talking about draft-dodging.
I thought we were talking about someone staying in the US to play ball so we could trade for him.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
He's not advocating dodging.
You are inserting it into an argument.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
I didn't.
They are not equal, but they are similar. Have you been reading the papers? NK sunk SK’s submarine a couple months ago. It’s heating up. If we had a DMZ on the Canadian border you’d bet there would be a draft in this country.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
I certainly did not equate that?
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
'Twas Chiburb, IIRC.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
If his country were in an open conflict, this would apply.
As it stands now, no, he’s not like Ted Williams. He’d likely spend 2 years on a ship patrolling the sea, doing training exercises, pushing papers at a desk, or maybe even patrolling a fort.
Man, everyone gets so off-topic so quickly around here. Myself included.
Damn. It still stands that Choo isn’t going to SK this season. This is all a moot point for trade discussions in this year. Did ya’ll even read the rest of my post? What about Marlon Byrd? Garrett Jones?
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Crotchety?
You’re kidding. You do realize that many countries in the world require their citizens to serve in the military – especially countries that have war zones. You also realize there is a HUGE immigration debate in this country that is stuck in the mud. There is no way on this Earth, in this time, that Shoo gets any favorable treatment to cut in front of hundreds of thousands who have waited their turn.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
I wish we had that actually.
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
The draft?
I don’t disagree, but I’m past the age of serving, and did not have to serve. Thus, I am playing with others’ lives and should stay out of the conversation.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
i think it would help a lot of people
get their heads out of their asses.
If forced into the military I doubt I piss away a solid decade partying like I did.
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
dont get me wrong
I had A LOT of fun.
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
I hear you.
I was in a drum corps for 3 years until age 18. It instilled a bit of an ethic. Lots of folks I talk to only stopped partying at age 19 when arrested for a DUI or something. It shouldn’t take that in order to wake up.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 23, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
If you went into the military...
you might have come out and spent the next decade (or lifetime) drinking away your survivor guilt.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Or with enough money to go to college without a student loan and plenty of work experience to get a high-paying job once the degree was finished.
There are plenty of people who benefit immensely from service and many more who could.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
No doubt. Or you might be coming home in a coffin.
What’s your point? You do realize we are at war, right? People shoot bullets at us and bombs blow us up.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes but the greater majority of us Veterans come home just fine.
Only 6 million of the current 23 million living veterans have service connected injuries or trauma. Far fewer have actually died from combat. No one will say the job isn’t risky, but the odds are with you and the rewards are great.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
Oh I know.
I’ve talked to recruiters about going in as an officer as recently as 6 months ago. I know all about the benefits.
I also know that the branch you go into matters more for your safety than any rank one could possibly have going in.
As for your point, the number of veterans with PTSD in the current war is only widely guessed, but those in the Persian Gulf showed rates from 9% up to 30%.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
You have one helluva an agenda there, Shoeless.
We were talking about Shoo. Now you are on the anti-war thing. Stick to baseball. ;)
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
lol. I know! these fools keep going off the tracks!
I’m trying to steer them towards the light but they keep dragging me back. That’s it. I’M DONE arguing war and politics with you all.
I write a big ass post about the people we should target in a trade, and all anyone wants to say regarding it is Choo isn’t available because he might have to go play solider for SK after this season.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
1.5 million Veterans of those 23 million currently have mental health diagnoses
Of those, leess than 400,000 are actual cases of PTSD. Again, the odds aren’t as likely as the media make them out to be. It just makes for good ratings to show the suffering soldier. The greater majority of us vets doing just fine make for bland stories.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
yeah, and you could also be in a federal building in Oklahoma and blow up.
or having breakfast with your friends in a high rise restaurant… follow your bliss, even if involves shooting people.
"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jul 23, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
until you see your best friends blown to pieces.
this isn’t the same military of the late 90s.
"from the Chi, the city of hella haters, where we keep rising to the top like elevators. Hi haters I'm back off hiatus." - grammy family
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 23, 2010 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Obviously.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions
lol. You crotchety old man.
We’re not talking about Lindsay Lohan getting reduced jail sentences or a cushy jail. We’re not talking about an NFL quarterback getting paid millions and millions and beating women and sexually assaulting them.
We’re talking about a family man, playing a national pastime, getting paid around league minimum, who simply doesn’t want to give up 2 years of his prime to go do something where he might get shot, or even worse, killed.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions
shitty internet.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Article
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
Okay. Sure. You and WU both have marvelous doubts.
But you both seem to assume one thing based on his immigration issue:
That he’s going to be deported THIS baseball season. He’s not signed thru next year. The Sox should be focused on winning something THIS year, and Choo makes this team a lot better. This season. The 2010 White Sox. That’s all they should care about.
The Indians get something from us in place of a REALLY risky contract.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I build teams that win now and win later
So sayeth Kenny.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
Griffey, Jr? Alomar?
Not all of his singular moves plan for a season beyond the current.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh but those are really bad examples.
I don’t want more of that.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
*lightbulb*
I’m going to start describing my site as the definitive White Sox blog, even in the face of readily apparent external evidence to the contrary.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
You have to wait until you're "emeritus".
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
thats hilarious
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
That article is what I was trying to say a couple days ago. In a few less words.
And I don’t see why you can’t be exalted, or your blog authoritative.
The bluebird can sing, but the crow's got the soul.
by Teahenny Penny on Jul 23, 2010 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions
You're not going to be a definitive anything until you learn how to get your links to open in new windows.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
Flukadome
didn’t want to be a right fielder. That’s why he went to the Cubs.
I’d be trying to work a deal to get Lee.
Comonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn You White Sox!
any deal to the cubs that doesnt include fuk-u-do-me
would be a real coup
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
by blackoutsox on Jul 23, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
and hes been a right fielder the whole time hes been there
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
Quentin is fragile and doesn't play enough, Jones has 54 k's and only 41 hits....
Kotsay has obp of .308, Omar Vizquel is the thirdbaseman and Jenks has 56 bb+hits in 35 innings pitched and this team is somehow in first place.
If someone would bit on “Q” I say trade him. Try to get a hitter like Dunn. Then stand pat with the starting rotation and hope that Jenks turns it around.
Mark Teahen peed in my canteen.
by SavePeavytill2010 on Jul 23, 2010 12:38 PM CDT reply actions
ok, so you think he is better than Dunn?
Mark Teahen peed in my canteen.
by SavePeavytill2010 on Jul 23, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions
fulltime? when is the last time Q was a fulltime player
would you sign Q to a long term deal?
Mark Teahen peed in my canteen.
by SavePeavytill2010 on Jul 23, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Only one of his last four injuries has been fielding related.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Jul 23, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Glad you posted the "Smells" cartoon.
CS nailed it. You need to do a new “Unbreakable” with Q’s face to replace Getz.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 23, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
That's what makes me definitive.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
The best kept secret on the Internet.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
what the hell. go for it. take it a step further and call yours the 'only white sox blog'
people seem to be allowed to give themselves nicknames now, too, which i didn’t think could happen.
Cashing checks and having sex. Also doing some light medical diagnoses.
"Sting".
Sometimes it works.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
I know almost everyone on here thinks Q is God but....
he just can’t stay on the field, flip a coin if he will be in the lineup day to day….maybe he can be moved for a more reliable player.
Mark Teahen peed in my canteen.
by SavePeavytill2010 on Jul 23, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
You think you're better than me?
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 23, 2010 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions
no, but my dad can beat up your dad
Mark Teahen peed in my canteen.
by SavePeavytill2010 on Jul 23, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Your dad is my age, I bet,
so yeah.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 23, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Yep. Fill a non-hole with a non-hole.
Quit digging.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
So Quentin is a non-hole for you? I suppose you want to sign him to a long term deal?
as long as he does not have to run, swing, catch or sneeze…then I think you can get a few good years out of him
Mark Teahen peed in my canteen.
by SavePeavytill2010 on Jul 23, 2010 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Non-hole. 15 games missed so far, on pace for highest/second highest PA's in career.
There are real holes to be addressed.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
fine, lets just hope he can finish out the season
I am not optimistic
Mark Teahen peed in my canteen.
by SavePeavytill2010 on Jul 23, 2010 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions
yes
I think he did start out in CF. But I did post that because of how it turned out. He’s a one man deal breaker.
Now in the dream/nightmare trade the Sox send Hudson, Kotsay, Lilli or Vici + prospect(s) for Zambaloni and Lee + 50 mill over 5 years.
Comonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn You White Sox!
I don't think you'd need to give up Hudson and Dayan to get Zambrano and Lee
Since Zambrano and Lee are so overpaid
HOLY NOTHANKYOU
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
anyone see over on twinkietown
how they think they have the best rotation in the AL?
http://www.twinkietown.com/2010/7/23/1583952/the-twins-have-the-best-starters#comments
makes me laugh
"Let’s plunge ourselves into the roar of time, the whirl of accident; may pain and pleasure, success and failure, shift as they will- it’s only action that can make a man" Faust, Goethe
Funny you linked this
Because I just going to point out with roughly 58% of the way thru the season Sox Starters are on pace for a whopping
19-20 WAR
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
He is predicting the one in 2019-2020.
You heard it here first.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
but they have nick punto?
after pavano and liriano they don’t have much…see if they get haren
Mark Teahen peed in my canteen.
by SavePeavytill2010 on Jul 23, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions
hahahahahahahahahaha
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
hahahahahahahahahaha
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
You seem to have a habit of double posting lately
Are you just trying to make sure that we know what you’re trying to say? :P
"i need to watch this harry potter movie on tv on acid."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 15, 2010 3:30 PM CDT
I have witnessed the 2005 World Series championship, Mark Buehrle's perfect game, and the 2010 Chicago Blackhawks Stanley Cup championship in my lifetime.
by chisoxfan1473 on Jul 23, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Italian roast ham with herbs
some Wensleydale cheese, silverskin pickled onions, baby gherkins and queen olives stuffed with feta – and a nice glass of sicilian red.
What have you had for tea?
Not gay,
so I have no idea what you are talking about.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
by winningugly on Jul 23, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
when you last ate - what did you have?
I have great 2002 Rioja as well as Sicilian Barbera – excellent stuff – better than that Californian muck
Rioja is marvelous - bought a bunch when we were in Spain.
Barbera is also nice. You have good taste, sir.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
bratwurst with mustard and hot pepper rings, some doritos, 32 oz of h2o
and a cherry yogurt
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
Now go kiss the wife.
Heh.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
I hate English fast food
it’s all crap – US stuff looks very good though – no wonder you are all so fat
by hoodlight on Jul 23, 2010 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Come to Disney.
The fattest people on the planet. And, sorry, mate, many of them are Brits. Red like lobsters.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
I know
we are getting just like you – obesity epidemic in UK now – food, particularly bad crappy food costs fuck all, and it never used to.
My wife says I am 5 lbs.overweight. (I'm 165 lbs.)
I tell her I’m overweight in India. It’s tough to see my kid’s peer group waddling around, though. Very unhealthy country, are we.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
As I am shaving in the morning.
She is a stick – 105. Her context is very narrow. We argue about food all the time.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
you run though
that’s good for keeping the weight off – i cycle most days to work and back 10 miles that helps, plus I don’t eat any sweet stuff, I don’t really like it.
god put a back on your hand for just such times.
by Trooper on Jul 23, 2010 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
If she were Italian.
She’s a Jew and would sue me.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
also cuz hitting women is wrong.
unless they’re taking forfucking ever with your sushi.
by Trooper on Jul 23, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
Nice
"i need to watch this harry potter movie on tv on acid."
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 15, 2010 3:30 PM CDT
I have witnessed the 2005 World Series championship, Mark Buehrle's perfect game, and the 2010 Chicago Blackhawks Stanley Cup championship in my lifetime.
by chisoxfan1473 on Jul 23, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
or JUST DONT LISTEN!
"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jul 23, 2010 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions
whats the best thing she makes for dinner?
reservations?
Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
Thank you, thank you, SSS. Thank you for accepting people who act like retards, if not actual retards. by Mitch. on Jun 24, 2010 1:16 PM CDT
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jul 23, 2010 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions
you touch my sister again, i'll kill you.
Cashing checks and having sex. Also doing some light medical diagnoses.
Im a biscuit away from 2 bills
and therefore also a gym membership.
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
are you 30 yet?
not thats the magic #, but i think that, having a kid, and bbq is a bad combination. i held 180 steady since jr yr of highschool. turned 29 moved to kc and became a dad and havent been back since…fuck it though girls still know im fly
Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
Thank you, thank you, SSS. Thank you for accepting people who act like retards, if not actual retards. by Mitch. on Jun 24, 2010 1:16 PM CDT
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jul 23, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah, 31 or so saw the jump from a ripped 187 to a chubby 199.
should have never given up exercise as a new years resolution that year…
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
office job got me.
started my job at 185ish right after my 25th bday.
put on 20lbs without even noticing until we got back into flag football and bball leagues.
Cashing checks and having sex. Also doing some light medical diagnoses.
oh yah that too
Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
Thank you, thank you, SSS. Thank you for accepting people who act like retards, if not actual retards. by Mitch. on Jun 24, 2010 1:16 PM CDT
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jul 23, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Good work.
Effort, or just stress?
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
Do you have stock in Kimberly Clark,
’cause it sounds like you are doing a lot of pooping.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
heh.
speaking of stock, allow me to toot my own horn for picking up a nice hunk of amzn AH yesterday.
Nice.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
Hey, me too...
Down 18 from May. Winter was brutal on me… didn’t have my dog to walk anymore, and underemployment + netflix + cold kept me REALLY sedative this winter.
Of course today, you could go out and sweat off 5lbs.
"We can't do it easy. But we may as well do it high." -The Cheat
by South Side Expat on Jul 23, 2010 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Good work.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
jesus christ you guys are all small as fuck
you aren’t a man unless you are over 225.
Kenwo4life=ratings
My gun weighs 100 lbs.
in a figurative sense, KenWo. And I have an offspring, so the man question is moot.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
google search- fat guy
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
reminds me of the spike jones video
from the directors cut series. cant remember the song or artist, but the kid ships himself
Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
Thank you, thank you, SSS. Thank you for accepting people who act like retards, if not actual retards. by Mitch. on Jun 24, 2010 1:16 PM CDT
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jul 23, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
thats it
Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
Thank you, thank you, SSS. Thank you for accepting people who act like retards, if not actual retards. by Mitch. on Jun 24, 2010 1:16 PM CDT
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jul 23, 2010 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Furby?
;)
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
LOL.
I was hoping to attract you to post. It’s been awhile. :)
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
whoa whoa! who dis!
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
well played
he lurks!
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
you googled "fat guy in a little box"?
Mark Teahen peed in my canteen.
by SavePeavytill2010 on Jul 23, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
You better be at least 6'4" or able to run through brick walls
if that is your minimum weight requirement. I’m a gym rat and I only come in at 190.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
172
but only 5’9
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
damn, you guys are fragile!
6’3 230…
"from the Chi, the city of hella haters, where we keep rising to the top like elevators. Hi haters I'm back off hiatus." - grammy family
by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 23, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
i think the term is 'husky'
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
big-boned.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
Must be all balls.
You carry it well, sailor.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
I'm only 5'9
At least that explains your love for the Big Jobber, I mean Show.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
I'm not that big...
but there was a time when he had shorter hair when he could have passed for my big cousin
Kenwo4life=ratings
I see he finally got a belt
Did he job it to an usher as he left the ring.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
is that a ballsack!?
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
that is England's fattest man
he has a series on the TV about his exploits – believe it or not he has a girlfriend
well yeah when hes packing like that!
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
He is on TV.
Of course he has a girlfriend.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
is he just sinking?
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
and peeing.
"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jul 23, 2010 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions
We know what 19 stone is.
It’s a Whole Lotta Rosie.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
I have a friend who was just over there for a business trip
and he described the ladies work attire as ‘stripper casual’.
so good job to you lot, however you managed to get that instituted.
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
real tight clothes, short skirts, low cut tops, stuff like that
he was impressed.
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
ok for work
yes – young women in office jobs here will all dress like that, unfortunately some of them shouldn’t. Best time walking round Leeds lunchtime is when there is a sudden downpour, you get to see some right sights, I can tell you
sounds lovely
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
By "route"
do you mean anally inserted?
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
Then it's all good.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
i love barberas. been drinking a lot of barolo lately. that's the stuff, but a bit pricey.
Cashing checks and having sex. Also doing some light medical diagnoses.
so, you're drinking a lot of the pricey stuff lately. got it.
I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok
special occasion.
but please, continue to live vicariously thru me.
Cashing checks and having sex. Also doing some light medical diagnoses.
Perhaps you two would like to schedule a fight at the Cell.
DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 23, 2010 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
we're doing an early bird special at india house, but we have to get him back to the home by sundown.
Cashing checks and having sex. Also doing some light medical diagnoses.
Set it up at Subway's.
I’m sure you could work a “fat fuck” $5 special for MM.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
i take it there was some collateral damage with the geriatric joke?
Cashing checks and having sex. Also doing some light medical diagnoses.
that was a joke?
didn’t recognize it.
I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok
or poor attempt at humor
I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok
;;

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by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 23, 2010 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I missed the geriatric joke.
I was piling onto your “I’m above 185” missive. Whosh.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
Man, the Dunn for Beckham or Quentin talk that Rizzo was talking was crazy.
But now Hudson’t off the table? What do the Sox have left to give that the Nats would want? Curious on Sox fans perspectives on this. FYI as a contribution to the discussion, Rizzo may be more amenable to trading him in a week or so according to Rosenthal. and elswehere with links to Buster Olney and Jayson Stark at MLbtraderumors.com .
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
We don't have a lot,
which is why many folks on this site think not much is going to happen except maybe a bargain-basement pickup. Nothing major.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
maybe kenny will accidentally pick up vernon wells on a waiver claim.
while trying to block detroit or minny.
Chris Sale. Jared Mitchell.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
new signees can't be traded until a year after their signing
PTBNL’s have to be named in 6 months time, therefore the math doesn’t work
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Ah. Thanks.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Again, Mitchell is untouchable.
Jordan Danks, however…
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
If you're saying he's untouchable because of his ankle injury (that you caused, iirc)
I’ll agree.
We all thought Gio Gonzalez and Aaron Poreda were practically untouchable too.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions
on this site...most love Quentin and Beckham, so they are untouchable
need Hudson for 5th starter spot, untouchable, lillibridge is the super utility player, untouchable…so I guess that leaves mark teahen.
Mark Teahen peed in my canteen.
by SavePeavytill2010 on Jul 23, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions
how 'bout bobby jenks to the yankees for rivera?????
Mark Teahen peed in my canteen.
by SavePeavytill2010 on Jul 23, 2010 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think Q! is untouchable. I see him as one of our best chips.
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by South Side Expat on Jul 23, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
A brittle chip is not a great chip.
It’s how we got him in the first place.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
Well, to be fair, one of his biggest DL stints was self induced... I think that factors.
"We can't do it easy. But we may as well do it high." -The Cheat
by South Side Expat on Jul 23, 2010 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
As a one-off.
Not any more.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
cool
I would trade Q for Dunn if we could then sign Dunn longer term, but I got scolded by others on this site for even bringing it up. you know, Qperman, Qnicorn etc.
Mark Teahen peed in my canteen.
by SavePeavytill2010 on Jul 23, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Our mistake was waiting until Dan Hudson got to the bigs...
…and then having his value inflate beyond our price point. If I were the GM of the Nats, I would still target Hudson and give the White Sox a choice between taking on Craig Stammen, JD Martin, or Ross Detwiler (who the Nats will never include but I don’t believe in) to address the Chi Sox understandable 5th starter concerns in exchange for more stuff from lower in the Sox system. Sale, Flowers, Mitchell, Morel, Thompson, and Danks are the guys that I saw after Hudson and Viciedo on a White Sox prospects list here, and I’m curious about what combination Sox could part with that’s tough enough offer the Nats real value but does not take away from the current team. I’m an outsider, but my thoughts are that sometime the Sox have to find a way to stop the bleeding or replenish their system and I’m not sure whether Kenny is the right guy to do that.
Frankly, my desire is for Rizzo to hold out and see if he get another team with a better farm system in the Dunn sweepstakes, sign him to a reasonable deal before the deadline, or accept a deal with Hudson in it. I just don’t know what the White Sox can offer that’s going to make the deal work and I’d be interested in any thoughts you guys have on that.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
Sale is illegal to trade (can't even get him through on a 6th month PTBNL)
basically anyone else in the minors is acceptable though…
Hudson was untouchable (at least to this blogger — which means he’ll be traded) long before he came up. I’ve always got my eye on next year, and he’s got a rotation spot claimed. The only way to keep the payroll managable w/ Q! and Danks and to a lesser extent the to-be-traded-this-off-season Jenks all due raises next year is to keep bringing in cheap (as in near league-minimum), productive players. Financially, as much as talent-wise, that makes Hudson untouchable…
Flowers looked like he might be untouchable at the beginning of the year, but he’s shown his share of flaws — I still think he’ll be a productive MLB player, but there are going to be more growing pains than with Hudson.
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Rizzo will be holding out for whatever draft picks he gets when Dunn walks then.
Way too high a price to ask for Hudson even if he throws in some of the trash pitchers he needs to export. Dunn is still a few months rental.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
I don't know how screwed up my vision is...
…but Detwiler is a legitimate prospect. He’s projected to be a 4th starter with stuff. He’s made some quality rehab starts from a hip injury and is scheduled to come back from the DL. There are injury concerns and mechancial concerns but he had a solid callup last year.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
But Hudson projects as a possible two and his clock just started so not happening
Again, Rizzo gets nothing if he doesn’t deal Dunn so he can’t demand premium trades. There are a lot of buyers, but they are all loking for pitching, not a DH.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
Gotcha.
The word around the league is that we’re crazy and overvalue Dunn. He doesn’t get nothing. He gets the two draft picks since Dunn projects as a Type A free agent. The value of the picks has to be added to whatever deal is made. I think Rizzo’s overvaluing his ability to draft as much as he’s overvaluing Dunn.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
just like Bowden kept Soriano and the picks
then the current regime can keep Dunn and those two picks
Mark Teahen peed in my canteen.
by SavePeavytill2010 on Jul 23, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
That was bad process, good results.
Just got through posting on that one elsewhere. Don’t want a repeat on that scenario and I would like to think they are going to move him. I like the White Sox as a team (despite witnessing the Obama/Strasburg start in person, yikes….and the Obama hat). It would be nice if something could work out, but it’s tough given the lack of depth in the ChiSox system post Peavy.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
Gotcha...
….which is why I’m asking what else of value ChiSox fans think someone else would want.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
Nothing. Beat your drum elsewhere. We're Dunn.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
This from Merkin
“Current consequences might mean the American League Central-leading White Sox start the month of August with the same roster they have on this late July off-day. If closing a deal for Adam Dunn means trading off Gordon Beckham, then the White Sox graciously will move on. If adding a left-handed slugger such as Prince Fielder means a deal for highly ”http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100722&content_id=12514926&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws" >touted prospects such as Daniel Hudson, Flowers or Dayan Viciedo, then business soon might pick up. "
Ixnay on both those deals thanks.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
Take two
<a href=“http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100722&content_id=12514926&vkey=news_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws” " >
Here is the link. The offending quote without a link jammed in it should read
Thompson, and Danks are the guys that I saw after Hudson and Viciedo on a White Sox prospects list here, and I’m curious about what combination Sox could part with that’s tough enough offer the Nats real value but does not take away from the current team. I’m an outsider, but my thoughts are that sometime the Sox have to find a way to stop the bleeding or replenish their system and I’m not sure whether Kenny is the right guy to do that.
Frankly, my desire is for Rizzo to hold out and see if he get another team with a better farm system in the Dunn sweepstakes, sign him to a reasonable deal before the deadline, or accept a deal with Hudson in it. I just don’t know what the White Sox can offer that’s going to make the deal work and I’d be interested in any thoughts you guys have on that.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
by souldrummer on Jul 23, 2010 12:19 PM PDT up reply actions
This from Merkin "Current consequences might mean the American League Central-leading White Sox start the month of August with the same roster they have on this late July off-day. If closing a deal for Adam Dunn means trading off Gordon Beckham, then the White Sox graciously will move on. If adding a left-handed slugger such as Prince Fielder means a deal for highly touted prospects such as Daniel Hudson, Flowers or Dayan Viciedo, then business soon might pick up. "
And again I say no thanks.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
Now I just merged with someone elses post
And its terrible.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
Try for Take three
It appears you have just copied my comment from above. I’m confused about what you’re trying to say. Would appreciate any thoughts on what a deal would look like that doesn’t include the “untouchables” currently on the White Sox 25 man roster and doesn’t offend the Nats fanbase.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
Terrible was the confusion that resulted from the merging of our posts.
I already commented with thoughts on your ransom … I mean trade idea.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
Anyone's going to overvalue their own players and undervalue others.
Hurts that there’s a lack of depth in the ChiSox system due to the Peavy trade, which was a ransom.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
fuck, its 5 oclock somewhere
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
Ha, ha!
That’s the signoff music for the Coach John Thompson radio show in DC.
On a desperate search for Sunshine at Nats Park.
Don't know what's going on
My computer is flipping out with each new post and it jacked up my link. I will try to fix.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
trade deadline
It’s important to get one more bat…would really balance the lineup and if Hudson just pitches ok the rest of the year….the rotation will be ok as well. I’m not ok with just standing pat though….I think we have to get a good bat in the DH role as it would not mean that AJ is the only lefty power threat on the roster.
Hadn't thought of that. Thanks.
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by Chiburb on Jul 23, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
There are kids on his lawn.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
call me crazy
but i dont think i would sign a huge contract if i were an elite mlb player. yeah the 7 year 120 million sounds awesome, but 7 years on the same team? if youre lucky, maybe 2 of those you make the playoffs. id much rather take a 2 or 3 year deal, and have the chance to play with more winners
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
spoken like a man not offered 120 million
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
He is Gnarles Barkley "Crazy".
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
lol. you are hip to some extent old man :)
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
as an elite player you can still get 35-50 mil over a 3 year deal
thats a lot of cheese, sir
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
$120 MM is more.
Guys can be traded, you know. In this market, you take the biggest cheese at his age.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
I thought we were referencing Fielder.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
nah, just big contracts
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
Players are kind of keen on long-term financial security.
DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 23, 2010 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
People are kind of keen on long-term financial security.
Fixed.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
perhaps players, but not so much for playaz.
Cashing checks and having sex. Also doing some light medical diagnoses.
Well crazy,
I’m of the ilk that the money will come but the chance to be a legend generally only falls to those who spend their playing careers largely with one team. I’d rather be a legend in a town that will forever love me than a rich mercenary everyone ends up forgetting.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
okay, now thats a good argument
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
That is a horseshit argument.
Other than Jeter, name an icon that has stayed with the same team for his whole career. It’s about the rings. Ernie Fucking Banks would’ve traded his left nut for a championship with another team rather than being “Mr. Cub” and a loser. Ask him.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
Yeah, aside from the 4 Yankees.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
Pujols may do it.
But your point is that it’s rare, and that’s true.
"and to think that we're sex games over .500" - blackoutsox
Pujols is a great example.
But St. Louis and New York are baseball towns. It’s much easier to stay there than, say, Seattle, or KC, or Texas.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
no one pays attention to what you say, dickweed.
I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok
by mick10 on Jul 23, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
ichiro, griffey junior
george brett,
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
You need to think.

DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 23, 2010 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
when you think of the legend of griffey jr, you think of seattle.
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
and when you think Thomas, you think Sox
when you think Jordan you think Bulls.
regardless of the few years with other teams playing out the string.
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
thank you, gus
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
Montana - SanFran.
Willie Mays – Giants.
Favre – uh…
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
J-E-T-S!
Thanks alot for these ridiculous ticket prices, 2005.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Jul 23, 2010 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
winner
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
Bears
DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 23, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Favorite actor Dennehy
"We can't do it easy. But we may as well do it high." -The Cheat
by South Side Expat on Jul 23, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions
All the more reason to do it when you can.
It would be legendary if it wasn’t rare.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
The point is it's rare
because it rarely makes sense when all the stars are aligned for the player, team, and owner.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
what???
ruth maris dimaggio williams yaz rose etc
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
Duh. Modern players.
Modern rules/mobility/paychecks.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
frank thomas
lets stop being stupid opos
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
a legend off the top of my head who was shipped around a bit would be randy johnson
maybe clemens
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
Idiot.
Same team, largely whole career was the premise.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
no, that comment was shifting back to my original statement
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
Which was that you agreed with justjc.
Go back to the original post by justjc. You are getting off-topic and thus not worthy of further comment. Focus.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
Was Frank with the Sox his whole career?
Now who is stupid.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
last 3 years or so are obviously omitted
he made his career with the sox. was ruth with the yankees his whole career? dont be thick with us wu!
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
That would be my point. It is rare for a variety of reasons.
I’m done with you today.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
Pujols.
DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY
by Ozzie Montana on Jul 23, 2010 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Youdaman.
And he’s not done yet, though I’d be surprised to see him leave St. Looie.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
The point is, it's rare.
You can name 50 players where they are “legendary” with one team. There have been thousands of players. It’s rare for a reason. And today’s market is much different than the ’80’s.
Fer Chrissakes. This is like the “telephone” game.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
That is exactly the point
That is why I would take that deal to be one of the rare few who got to become icons rather than one of the thousands who played and went on to own car dealerships man. Ernie Banks is loved way more now than he would have been if he traveled around looking for a ring every year. Granted, his love comes from a collection of douche bags, but it is still greater than that of random baseball mercenary’s career.
"You’re a cunt, but i’ve got ethics." - U-God
cliff lee says hi
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
right I'm off to the pub
sorry for going off topic and that at this important stage of the season – anyway here is a nice pic of an English bird

by hoodlight on Jul 23, 2010 3:17 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
No KenWo. That's a plus
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"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Jul 23, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
the guy from SC would know about this
you might be able to make movie that yourself
depends.
by Trooper on Jul 12, 2010 8:25 PM
wait, where are you looking?
Watching this team is like jerking off 10 minutes after you just jerked off - billyok
god bless you, you warmbeerdrinkingformercolonialpower genius!
"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jul 23, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions
if only it was 2003 or 2004, Everett and Alomar strolling in to save the day

Mark Teahen peed in my canteen.
by SavePeavytill2010 on Jul 23, 2010 3:37 PM CDT reply actions
saving the day, and slaying the myth of dinosaurs.
"We can't do it easy. But we may as well do it high." -The Cheat
by South Side Expat on Jul 23, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
you cant hurt omar!
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
OT- I'm gonna go to the store in a half hour.
After a long afternoon of drinking and woodworking while watching the DVD of the perfecto, What should I grill tonight? Suggestions?
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by South Side Expat on Jul 23, 2010 4:09 PM CDT reply actions
And no, you jerks, it was actual wood, with sawing and nailing and glueing and clamping.
"We can't do it easy. But we may as well do it high." -The Cheat
by South Side Expat on Jul 23, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Hrmmm... nevermind, I cant win on this one.
"We can't do it easy. But we may as well do it high." -The Cheat
by South Side Expat on Jul 23, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions
huhhuh
hey nothing wrong with woodworking while watching that beauty of a game
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
drinking and woodworking? yikes.
Cashing checks and having sex. Also doing some light medical diagnoses.
Hot summer afternoon drinking.
And only some table saw stuff as far as power tools. Making a new cabinet thingy for the bathroom that will have a specialized nook to hold a kleenex box. GIft to the lady for her B-day.
The real boozy fun comes tonight.
"We can't do it easy. But we may as well do it high." -The Cheat
by South Side Expat on Jul 23, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
what the fuck is going on, 500 posts in the last few hours?
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 23, 2010 4:57 PM CDT reply actions
i need baseball,
this seems like a mini all star break
Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''
This is hsa posing as Toonder.
We gonna go get a winner!
I'll only ask once that you and your adorable sweater step away from the door.
Give us a new thread!!!!!!!!!!
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Earl Weaver
by Chiburb on Jul 23, 2010 5:29 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
hmmmm
;/
how often you meddle around on my account?
jk
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by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 23, 2010 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions
so youre the one who edited wtgtd's post
Just taking a couple minutes to act like a retard.
Thank you, thank you, SSS. Thank you for accepting people who act like retards, if not actual retards. by Mitch. on Jun 24, 2010 1:16 PM CDT
by Grinder Rule #42 on Jul 23, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
How about a trade such as:
Quentin, Hudson, Viciedo for Prince Fielder and Corey Hart?

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