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This Week in White Sox Minor League Baseball


This week there's not much happening, other than the Voyagers clinching the first half Pioneer League Northern Division title and joining the Dash as White Sox affiliates in the minor league postseason.  And with the trade deadline tomorrow, it seemed like a good opportunity to go over my Top Ten White Sox Prospects from last October.

1. Dan Hudson. RHP. 2010 line: Charlotte 17 GS, 93.1 IP, 81 H, 31, BB, 108 K; White Sox 3 GS, 15.2 IP, 17 H, 11 BB, 14 K.  Traded to Arizona.  Amongst scouts, Hudson, like many prospects sitting in the 50-100 range, elicits a wide range of projections.  Some see a mid-rotation starter.  Others see a middle reliever.  I see him as more of the former, as his issue is primarily in repeating his delivery and, thus, avoiding having his pitches flatten out - and I think he'll figure that out.  Mechanics are easier to fix than a lack of stuff.  In any event, his time at Charlotte certainly justified his ranking as the top prospect in the organization.

2. Tyler Flowers. C. 2010 line: Charlotte .218/.326/.450.  So far, Flowers is alternating very good months with very bad months.  In UGod's excellent interview with Jeff Manto, the White Sox minor league hitting instructor, he alluded to Flowers not getting pitches to hit - which isn't unusual for minor league (or even major league) hitters of his type.  If he's going to keep chasing pitches - which his 32% strike zone rate shows he currently is - pitchers are going to keep throwing them out of the zone.  He's at least still punishing pitches when he does make contact.  While his line shouldn't justify a #2 ranking in an organization, considering what's coming next, it doesn't seem too far off.

Star-divide

3. Jordan Danks. OF. 2010 line: Charlotte .242/.316/.374.  Danks was one I struggled with because, on the one hand, there were solid scouting reports and a good month and a half at Winston-Salem, and, on the other, there was his poor performance in Birmingham for the rest of the season.  The latter was chalked up to injuries and I bought that line.  A solid performance in the Arizona Fall League seemed to back that up.  But his season has been bad offensively (though he still gets the rave reviews in the outfield), the strikeouts remains a problem (31%) and his continued issues with injuries adds another negative.  Certainly didn't justify this ranking.

4. Jared Mitchell. OF. 2010 line: DNP.  Mitchell tore a tendon in his left ankle in spring training, resulting in season ending surgery.  He'll be back for the Instructional League in September and may make an appearance in a fall or winter league.

5. Dayan Viciedo. 1B/3B. 2010 line: Charlotte .288/.324/.525; White Sox .286/.286/.464.  Viciedo was coming off a statistically poor season after he been pushed to Birmingham as a 20 year old.  The White Sox didn't let up, sending him to Charlotte to open this season.  After a rough first month, he began to rake, eventually resulting in his call-up, essentially as a result of Mark Teahen's injury.  He's performed about as expected so far: making good contact, making powerful contact against lefties, struggling against righties and struggling at third base.  He needs more time in the minors -  particularly to get him better against righties - and he's probably going to get it when Teahen returns.  He's been a bright spot.

6. Brent Morel. 3B. 2010 line: Birmingham .326/.376/.440; Charlotte .290/.327/.425.  I said it then and I'll say it again: I'm a big fan of Morel.  He's done nothing to disappoint this season as he made quick work of AA and, after a brief adjustment period, is doing the same in AAA.  His glove is fantastic and, so long as he continues to make contact, he'll reach his upside of an overall average third baseman.  Another bright spot.

7. C.J. Retherford. 2B/3B. 2010 line: Charlotte .201/.249/.321; Birmingham .211/.268/.321.  Retherford has been simply atrocious, first at AAA and then at AA after he was demoted in June.  After hitting at every level - including Birmingham in 2009 - he's simply lost the ability to hit.  It's not a good idea to write off a player after a single bad season but this is becoming a catastrophic one.

8. David Holmberg. LHP. 2010 line: Great Falls 8 GS, 40.1 IP, 52 H, 9 BB, 29 K.  Traded to Arizona.  After starting off in extended spring training, Holmberg went to the Voyagers and acquitted himself well.  He was giving up lots of hits but that's not necessarily unusual when considering the small sample size, the piss poor defense and the hitter's environment of the Pioneer League.  The second round pick in 2009 is a long way off and we probably won't know for years whether this teenager is going to come back to bite the White Sox.

9. Christian Marrero. 1B/OF. 2010 line: Birmingham .259/.368/358.  This guy has lost the ability to hit for power.  I had identified his issue as being a corner outfielder or first baseman who may not have the bat for those spots; however, I thought it would be the lack of walks, not power, which would be his failing.  Quickly becoming a non-prospect.

10. Clevelan Santeliz. RHP. 2010 line: Charlotte 32.1 IP, 30 H, 22 BB, 28 K.  He had improved his control in the second half of last season and the reduction in walks continued in the Venezuelan Winter League.  Unfortunately, it didn't continue into the 2010 season and he's been disappointing for Charlotte.  Another becoming a non-prospect.

Looking back at my notes, the only other player I considered for the list was Carlos Torres.  I left Torres off primarily because he's a low ceiling/high floor guy.  It's pretty certain that Torres is going to spend the next five years either bouncing between AAA and MLB or resident in a MLB bullpen in a middle/long relief / spot start role.  The guys who made up the back end of the list had higher ceilings but also much lower floors.

If I had made this list two months later, following the completion of the Arizona Fall League, Sergio Santos would have been on this list - perhaps as high as 8th.  He made a significant step forward in his pitching during the fall and, after actually seeing him pitch in the AFL, it was obvious to me this guy had major league ability less than 8 months after his conversion (one of the constraints of a player new to pitching and in the low minors is no video and little scouting attention).

There's been some room freed up on the list and the inevitable question is who is on it now and in what order.  Well, you'll have to wait for the offseason for that..but, obviously, the recent top draft picks of pitchers Chris Sale, Jacob Petricka, Addison Reed and Thomas Royse would be in the mix.  I'm very high on OF Jose Martinez, as he's showing lots of tools and few ill effects from his terrible injury and long layoff.  And defensive whiz SS Eduardo Escobar made a big step forward offensively and I'm eager to see how he handles the jump to AA.

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Good stuff. Appreciate it, as always.

"and to think that we're sex games over .500" - blackoutsox

by RWShow on Jul 30, 2010 10:20 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks, larry.

Are you any higher on Harrell now than you were in January or October? Where would he have fit if you had to assign an arbitrary ranking?

"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose

by Teahenny Penny on Jul 30, 2010 10:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks again.

"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose

by Teahenny Penny on Jul 30, 2010 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

he was kind of impressive tonight.

he threw a lot of balls which is to be expected of someone making their debut…. but he had a lot of nice movement on 93/94 MPH fastballs…. I think he looked better than daniel wright hudson

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 31, 2010 1:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Most AL lineups thrash him last night,

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by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 31, 2010 2:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

freddy has thrown wonderfully against a lot of good teams

NY, Minnesota, Tampa, Texas…. he was due for a stinker… meanwhile, Hudson sucked vs oakland and kansas city… and was good vs. seattle….. Thank god we got Jackson.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 31, 2010 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

how is this not green??

i’m gone... bye bitches. - wtgtd

by BoeJouma on Jul 31, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

because some things just aren't that funny.

4 outs! the horror…. the horror….

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jul 31, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you wanted to mildly bust larry's balls, tell him Harrel wasn't even supposed to be in the top 31, let alone 20-25.

But yeah, I was a little impressed with his fastball tonight, too. I wouldn’t mind seeing him in a bullpen at some point. ‘Course I haven’t seen him come up through the minors.

"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose

by Teahenny Penny on Jul 31, 2010 2:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

you misread that.

his higher placement was another example of organizational bias and phil rogers input. gartrell was the one who didn’t belong in the top 31.

by larry on Jul 31, 2010 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

I see now.

But it really did come across as “also should not have been in the top 31.”

"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose

by Teahenny Penny on Jul 31, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

then i miswrote that.

i thought the theme throughout the article was clear. sorry.

by larry on Jul 31, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

so we have officially about zilch when it comes to pitching in the minors now

A couple of those guys selected in June better turn out to be something….

"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."

by BobbySouthSide on Jul 30, 2010 10:57 PM CDT reply actions  

hot potato
Heard from an exec not involved in the discussions that the White Sox are furious with the Nats over Edwin Jackson.

http://twitter.com/keithlaw/status/19964761309

by larry on Jul 30, 2010 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

seriously, i can't imagine how pissed i'd be if i were kenny

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by boyonthedock on Jul 30, 2010 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

here's what kenny had to sarlier, apologize i'm the man
Williams explained that he talked to “a number of guys today,” apparently meaning veteran general managers, who shared his assessment and frustration with the new landscape.

“We’ve always done business the same way. It’s straight between the eyes,” Williams said. "When we say we are going to call you, we are going to call you. If we can’t talk to you about a given subject at that particular time, I’ll call you to say I can’t talk about that given subject. The lines of communication will always be open and be above board for everything.

“This cloak-and-dagger stuff is different. This is baseball, it’s not espionage going on somewhere. We aren’t talking about military secrets. It’s baseball. Give me a break.”

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 31, 2010 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

A bit off-topic

But do you guys think that KW (or some higher-up in the organization) sends out an email to all/most/many other GMs around the league after a situation like this? Something along the lines of:

Hey Dudes, What’s Up?

Just traded a top prospect for a pitcher with a sketchy history under the assumption that Rizzo would be good on his word and make a trade shortly thereafter. Anyway, long story short, but that guy is not a chill dude, and he totally reneged on the deal. So don’t trust him.

Sincerely,

-KW

Or do they just speak through the media or possibly in person the next time they speak. I know it’s totally inconsequential, but it’s the kind of thing that I can’t help but think about thanks to Michael Lewis.

White Sox fan; Jeppson's Malort man

by KarkoviceIsHawt on Jul 31, 2010 2:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't think that email would need to be sent.

The media coverage would be enough. The Dunn deal seemed kind of sketchy earlier on, though.

"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose

by Teahenny Penny on Jul 31, 2010 2:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

You tend to not put slanderous statements in writing.

Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 31, 2010 8:15 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Kenny just has to get Rizzo some breast milk from a Cambodian immigrant

But yeah I would be pissed too if a GM tells every other team that they would do a deal if it involved player X and once that team trades for player X that GM says no thanks

Does this hurt Rizzo’s standing around the league?

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Jul 30, 2010 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

so we can assume the Sox did due dilligence

I think Jackson is preferable to Dunn anyway.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jul 31, 2010 1:16 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

i agree

I can see hudson for jackson but i would be against hudson for 2 months of dunn.

I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok

by mick10 on Jul 31, 2010 2:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

Am I wrong being so afraid a trade for, say, Dunn, and having only four dependable starters, even if it is only for two months?

"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose

by Teahenny Penny on Jul 31, 2010 2:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

i don't think you're wrong

pitching got us here and pitching will get us into the playoffs. and then, pitching will get us another ring!

I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok

by mick10 on Jul 31, 2010 2:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

and by the way....

peavy, floyd, danks, buehrle and jackson sounds pretty fucking awesome for 2011

I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok

by mick10 on Jul 31, 2010 2:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, it does. I like the sound of that a lot.

But I don’t really like being on the hook for 8+ million and having one less decent pitcher under team control for the next five years.

"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose

by Teahenny Penny on Jul 31, 2010 3:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

daniel hudson is not going to be a good pitcher in the show.

roll it, pat it, mark it with a b and put it in the oven for baby and me.

I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok

by mick10 on Jul 31, 2010 3:15 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

mick10 the Bunny?

"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose

by Teahenny Penny on Jul 31, 2010 3:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

He may be serviceable.

“Good” would be a stretch.

Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 31, 2010 8:16 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

i agree with 2011, that does sound awesome

and there will also be a lot of money tied into it as well.

offensively, i think the sox will have to sustain it’s high level of performance (since early june) to win the division this year

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 31, 2010 3:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

i guess its a 6 man rotation then

because you forgot our ace.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 31, 2010 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

No - he clearly mentioned Freddy

"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"

by Brush Back on Jul 31, 2010 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Still, shouldn't the Sox gone for the "traditional" 3-way trade?

Getting a guy Rizzo says he likes without the Dunn part of the deal in place leaves you open to exactly this happening. Sure, it make s Rizzo a dick, but KW gambled. Honestly Jackson makes no sense for the Nats….the whole thing was weird to start with…

On the other hand, I’d be furious too…

by hitlesswonder on Jul 30, 2010 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

i wasn't in the room. i don't know what was said.

maybe it was KW’s fault. maybe it was a simple miscommunication. and maybe rizzo reneged. all i know is that it appears the white sox are livid. and i doubt that goes unnoticed around MLB.

by larry on Jul 30, 2010 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

"on the next episode of 'The Club'...."

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jul 30, 2010 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's all been for the ratings

and frankly i can live with that.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jul 31, 2010 1:23 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

KW probably felt like the gamble was worth it.

Maybe he didn’t think ending up with Jackson would be the worst thing in the world.

"and to think that we're sex games over .500" - blackoutsox

by RWShow on Jul 30, 2010 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

If the Kenny and Co. wante Dunn and not Jackson

why would they trade for Jackson and not wait for an official 3-team deal? There was absolutely no pressing need to make the deal today if they were trying to flip Jackson. This goes back to the cases of Furcal with the Braves and The Yankees agreement with Seattle… a verbal agreement or a handshake doesn’t cut it these days. If Rizzo is being difficult that’s one thing and if I were Kenny I would be upset too but an ambiguous statement or general assurance isn’t something I’d like a professional executive to base deals off of.

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 31, 2010 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

If you are known in a small community as a liar

you don’t stay in that community for long. In the end I blame KW for being Rizzo’s guinea pig. Caveat emptor.

Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 31, 2010 7:27 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Only too a small degree

I knew Rizzo was a clown. Considering the multiple teams trying to get Jackson others teams believed him.

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2010 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

of course you don't feel sorry for KW.

but if you can’t trust someone you’re negotiating with, you don’t negotiate with them anymore. which was rather my point earlier this week on rizzo.

by larry on Jul 31, 2010 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is it really fair to "blame" KW when he isn't unhappy with the outcome?

If he really felt he got burned and didn’t want Jackson at all, I would agree. But I think he was fine with any of the possible outcomes (Jackson, Dunn, some mystery deal for Berkman). He only seems to be upset with the actual process of dealing with Rizzo. Since KW was not afraid to air that all publicly Rizzo is the only one who comes a clear loser in all this.

by CatBrains on Jul 31, 2010 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

i'd just note.

this might be another KW ploy, at least in part. people will be whispering how rizzo “fucked over” KW for years. but if the deal happens anyway today, everyone will forget it.

by larry on Jul 31, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Interesting... it is basically a no lose situation for KW to do this

again, running on the assumption he is totally ok with the team as of today. I suppose this could hurt him with future dealings with Rizzo, but judging from this fiasco that wouldn’t be the absolute worst bridge to burn.

by CatBrains on Jul 31, 2010 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Again, it's like how Jack Z burned Cash

I don’t know Rizzo’s motivation but there seems to be a new rulebook in the business.

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 31, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

This.

KW is a shifty one. Very shrewd.

Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 31, 2010 2:09 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

By now I assume the team's top four picks will be in the top 10 list come winter.

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 31, 2010 12:09 AM CDT reply actions  

I think this is KW-speak for "I'm going to tear Rizzo's head off and shit down his neck"
Without naming the Nationals, Williams did little to hide his distaste for how the trading process has gone this July.

’’It’s been more frustrating,‘’ he said. ’’I’m not going to tell you why.

‘’There are some new general managers that do business in a different way, and some of us have to adjust to that.’’

by vince_ on Jul 31, 2010 12:18 AM CDT reply actions  

Personally I'm just glad we have an American black player again.

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 31, 2010 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

it's been a long 4 months

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by boyonthedock on Jul 31, 2010 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

If I'm forgetting him and he's a starter, well, that answers it.

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 31, 2010 1:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

hahahahaha this.

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jul 31, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe ramos for capps wasn't an overpay after all.

The part of the deal where rizzo fucks with kenny just wasn’t publicized.

by Trooper on Jul 31, 2010 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

it's official

the twins win the 2010 world series, ugh, this was a crap article

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 31, 2010 12:49 AM CDT reply actions  

they've quantified clutch?

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jul 31, 2010 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

here’s the article that summarizes clutchiness

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 31, 2010 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

clearly a horseshit article and those nerds better head back to their spreadsheets

i don’t see joe crede on any of those lists.

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jul 31, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

If there is any trade value in Flowers I would like it cashed in now.

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 31, 2010 1:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Ah yes.

Selling low. I like it.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jul 31, 2010 1:21 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Selling low is when he's a platoon DH striking out in 30% of his PAs.

That’s how you end up with the venereal disease known as Mark Teahen.

You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan

by Daniel Berlyn on Jul 31, 2010 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

No it isn't.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jul 31, 2010 2:16 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Fight!

Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 31, 2010 7:29 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

colin, Jack Welch was telling my group today

he believes the youth of today is hungry, intelligent, motivated, and unafraid of hard work. I thought of you and wished he read the Getz interview tapes transcript.

;)

Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 31, 2010 2:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

lol!

"and to think that we're sex games over .500" - blackoutsox

by RWShow on Jul 31, 2010 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jack Welch can say all that

specifically because he hasn’t met me.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jul 31, 2010 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

in some ways, he's unqualified to speak on the subject without having met you.

Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.

by MarketMaker on Aug 1, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

haha

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 31, 2010 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

can anyone summarize what christina kahrl had to say

if she had anything to say that hasn’t been said already?

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 31, 2010 3:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Well I cannot sleep in anymore, but I am not hungover so that is good

Anyways, if this doesn’t work out or Kenny got screwed over, I think we will start to hear about it soon. Hopefully Kenny still gets something done… trust in Kenny

by 815Sox on Jul 31, 2010 7:55 AM CDT reply actions  

I think we have already

Quotes from Kenny are easy to read between the lines

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2010 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

well sure

I am just saying we will start hearing about this stuff earlier then usual… like around Spring Training they usually will say oh I almost had so and so….

by 815Sox on Jul 31, 2010 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

#5: larry, some say he should DH against righties in the majors today.

Are you sure about your assessment?

Thx.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver

by Chiburb on Jul 31, 2010 8:05 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

never give an inch.

i like it.

hey swisher...........you know.

by BuehrleMan on Jul 31, 2010 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

He has no extra inch to give.

Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 31, 2010 10:25 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ummm
Odds of Adam Dunn going anywhere today are less than 50-50, sources say. #Nationals still say not lowering price. #trades

http://twitter.com/jaysonst/status/19992539368

by 815Sox on Jul 31, 2010 9:01 AM CDT reply actions  

Soxnet.net reports that multiple teams are trying to acquire Rinku Singh and Dinesh Patel

An executive for one of the teams told me that Rizzo is serious this time though the exec swore he heard snickering in the background

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Jul 31, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

How awesome is this:

At the company conference in Beantown this AM. The presenter to us, 3000 or so advisors, discloses he is a Sox fan. Disses the Cubs in a nice way but then asks “Will the Cubs win a world series by 2020?”. We all have remote voting handsets, 66 pc of some of the most astute financial advisors in the country voted “no”. Bwahahahaha!

Fucking fantastic.

Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 31, 2010 10:23 AM CDT via mobile reply actions  

where did you eat? if you go to north end, you have to go to the daily catch on hanover

worth the wait if there is a line (and there usually is one), not fine dining, but the italian seafood is top notch

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 31, 2010 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or Massimino's

Home of the best meal I’ve ever had.

http://www.massiminosboston.com/

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Jul 31, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mostly convention center food for br/lunch.

Joe’s All American Burger, Harvard Club, and a bar across Fenway. That’s it for dinner.

Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 31, 2010 10:54 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Cask 'n Flagon?

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Jul 31, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I had their rack of lamb special

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Jul 31, 2010 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

you're really speaking my language.

i’ve been on a lamb chop kick this year.

best lamb i’ve had? ditka’s. it’s fantastic. really, really good.
still haven’t tried harry carey’s. i’m going to, but $70 is pretty steep for a lamb chop.

Cashing checks and having sex.

by MarketMaker on Jul 31, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

$42.95

I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok

by mick10 on Jul 31, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

66 pc?

I fear for the clients of those other 1000

by 3E8 on Jul 31, 2010 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

that was my reaction

if 1/3 of the most astute financial advisors in the country can’t spot a 100-year trend, the economy is in even more trouble than i thought.

by Ryno on Jul 31, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Swear to God, the guy next to me

is from Naperville and is one of the 1000.

Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 31, 2010 10:51 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Via 670 The Score,

White Sox made a failed run at Manny Ramirez

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Jul 31, 2010 10:33 AM CDT reply actions  

sooo if we made a run at manny

and his absolutely absurd contract, why can we not buy dunns?

i’m gone... bye bitches. - wtgtd

by BoeJouma on Jul 31, 2010 10:49 AM CDT reply actions  

we prob. asked L.A. to pay for a portion of the contract

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Jul 31, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

we tried to get manny for nothing
Ken_Rosenthal Source: #WhiteSox wanted #Dodgers to pay all but 1M of approximately 6.7M left on Manny’s 2010 contract with no player coming back.

by Ryno on Jul 31, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

whoa?!

why on earth would the Dodgers go for that?

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Jul 31, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

haven't the mccourts been advised to sell?

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 31, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

not at the extent of giving up players for 5.7Mil with nothing in return

thats absurd

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Jul 31, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

if you don't expect to gain from having him on the team

then saving 1MM isn’t getting nothing in return

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jul 31, 2010 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

i see your point,

but I imagine a red flag deal like that which sends Manny away for virtually nothing would cause a loss in ticket profit through the rest of the season

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Jul 31, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

no but i think it could easily emase the 1million they would be "saving"

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Jul 31, 2010 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

perhaps.

but i don’t think there are many people who show up to sporting events to see a single player. particularly when they’ve probably seen that player many times.

by larry on Jul 31, 2010 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

just pay attention to the Cleveland Cav's attendence as it drops 30% this year

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Jul 31, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exception to the rule

And that’s still wrong. The team was great when LeBron was there. If they had a 60 win team still no matter who was on it, they’d still pack the house.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 31, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol most of the tickets are paid for already

for the dodger games. you are comparing that to Manny? are you high?

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 31, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

no but Larry used a broad term..."sporting events"

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Jul 31, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

proved ya wrong sir

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Jul 31, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

No.. you didn't.

Because as I said, if the team still was the best team in basketball during the regular season, they’d sell out. LeBron or no LeBron. So even in this extreme case of superstar, which Manny isn’t, you’re wrong.

by Grinder in Training on Jul 31, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

You just compared a washed up Manny Ramirez to LeBron James.

Yeah, that makes sense.

DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY

by Ozzie Montana on Jul 31, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think you're forgetting to factor in lost sales of dreadlock hats.

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jul 31, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

now we're talkin!

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Jul 31, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

trying to take advantage of the mccourt divorce?

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 31, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cowley
The thought behind Manny was a DH who can be hot when he’s motivated – look what he did right after he left Boston.

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Jul 31, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

or berkman's

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 31, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

We can't buy Dunn's because it's not there to "buy"

Washington wants a ridiculous package of players AND the team to pay the salary. With Manny, if the Sox pay the salary the package of guys going the other way would probably be less. Rizzo’s being an ass.

As for Berkman, we couldn’t buy him because he invoked his no-trade rights. Considering he ended up with the Yankees (and he had to know that option was out there too) it’s hard to blame him — they’re a guaranteed postseason berth, the Sox aren’t.

by Yinka Double Dare on Jul 31, 2010 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is it sad that the only thing in that sentence that made sense was android?

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Jul 31, 2010 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT

by winningugly on Jul 31, 2010 11:23 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

kenny rose
It’s a halfcourt shot, but it’s still in the air: Source says #WhiteSox intend to make one more run at Manny today. #Dodgers #MLB

if hes damn near free, ok, but otherwise i kinda really do not want him on this team.

i’m gone... bye bitches. - wtgtd

by BoeJouma on Jul 31, 2010 11:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Just beat me to it.

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Jul 31, 2010 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think he'd be free in terms of players

if the sox agree to pay for more than 1 million of his remaining contract. not sure how much money we’ve got left after acquiring jackson.

for a couple months, i think it’s worth a shot.

by Ryno on Jul 31, 2010 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

me too

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 31, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

haha, uh, no

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 31, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

no way,

im starting to get excited about Vidiedo

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Jul 31, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

please god

no manny.

hey swisher...........you know.

by BuehrleMan on Jul 31, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

why man, ozzie is the horse fucking whisperer

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 31, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Haha.

“pssst. i fucked a horse.”

"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose

by Teahenny Penny on Jul 31, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm sure manny remembers when ozzie pretty much issued a death threat to maggs

he’s not going cross him

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 31, 2010 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

id take manny

but not for viciedo

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 31, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather have Manny than Dunn

Even in a “down year”, Manny’s slash stats are .317/.409/.516. He may not have the pure power of Dunn, but his OBP is 40-50 points higher. And Manny said early this year that he was ready to DH. He’s a free agent after this year, so he’ll be plenty motivated. And if anyone can handle him at this point, it’s the combo of Ozzie and PK.

Add in that Manny will absolutely be cheaper in prospects because the Dodgers are annoyed with him and will be happy to shed money while their GM is not Mike Rizzo, and I say get it done. I bet Manny’s current injury magically gets better quickly when he knows he only has to DH.

by Yinka Double Dare on Jul 31, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

ozzie wants a good fielding DH.

that’s why thome is in minnesota.

hey swisher...........you know.

by BuehrleMan on Jul 31, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

he'd probably do fine in the lineup.

i just found it amusing that someone would want to acquire a player they think is faking an injury. that would go over really well with the white sox.

by larry on Jul 31, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

as long as the fake injury heels quickly

i could give a fuck what he is doing with LA.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 31, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, it's also the matter that you don't need to be as healthy to just bat as you do to play the outfield

But it’s Manny. Who knows with him. But for two months? Hell yeah, sign me up. He’s not a lefty, but he’s actually got a reverse platoon split for at least the last three seasons. If we can do it by just paying his contract and maybe sending an interesting arm or something back, keeping Jackson? I really don’t see the downside. Manny not giving a crap is still better than Mandrew Kojones.

by Yinka Double Dare on Jul 31, 2010 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

+1 for

Mandrew Kojones

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Jul 31, 2010 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

i always wanted to be on double dare

and dig in the large nose for the flag.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 31, 2010 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

are those rerun at all?

now that i know he was massive ocd on that show, i’ve wanted to go back and look for signs.

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jul 31, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

is that the show with the cheerleading twins

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 31, 2010 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

come on larry imagine the marketing

instead of mannywood…. its Mannyhood! it fits perfectly

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 31, 2010 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's a calf strain

Faking or not, he’d be able to DH before he’d be able to play the field anyways. Well, as much as you want to call Manny’s defense playing the field.

And it’s Manny. Who knows with the guy. But getting him for about two months of DH and probably getting the motivated version of Manny seems like a good deal.

by Yinka Double Dare on Jul 31, 2010 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Career line at Comiskey/U.S. Cellular

.338/.601/1.049 in 59 games
He always seemed to hit a big HR at the Cell when he was with Boston except for 05.

by moroots on Jul 31, 2010 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha olney
And I think we can safely say this: Kenny Williams has officially earned the title as The Damned-The-Torpedoes-Full-Speed-Ahead GM.#trades

i’m gone... bye bitches. - wtgtd

by BoeJouma on Jul 31, 2010 11:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Ask Tom Petty

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Jul 31, 2010 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

saw him in rome, his band was billed as the "spazzacuore"

"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok

by DrEmilioLizardo on Jul 31, 2010 1:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

KW gives as good as he gets

Not saying it’s ever a good thing to trade away a good player. But other GM’s have seen the way KW lives for the moment and some of the players he trades end up playing well for other teams. Clayton Richard, Chris Young, Aaron Roward for the Phillies the year after KW swapped him for Thome, obvious Nick Swisher. FNS.

It’s like In poker, you have to give action to get it. Your GM’s like Rizzo who you have to use the media to pressure them to make a deal are just playing with scared money, to continue the poker analogy, afraid of KW making them look bad.

by moroots on Jul 31, 2010 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

..........the fuck?

"Here's something: That if you want your father to think you're not a silly f*ck, don't slap a guy across the face with a glove. Because if you do that, that's what he will think. Unless you're a noble man or something in the nineteenth century. Which I am not." - Dave Spritz in The Weather Man

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 31, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

awww
#mlb #dodgers #white sox The White Sox have yet to even hear a counter-offer from Dodgers on Manny, let alone engage in talks. WS moving on.

link

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jul 31, 2010 12:34 PM CDT reply actions  

what? kw offered to spit on it.

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Jul 31, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cowley
Manny deal has gone from a half-court shot to now a full-court heave.

Please find Jay Cutler some help...

by Jbasic89 on Jul 31, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

i thought he was hurt

and there was no possibility?

"I haven’t gotten to where I am by giving up easily." - Ari Gold

by Where Triples Go to Die on Jul 31, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

H Matsui makes a ton of sense......just too bad Reagins is delusional and still thinks

Angels can make a run at him (if this is the case).

Also, Phil Rogers is an absolute idiot. It’s a shame that we have to endure him as a “baseball writer.” He really just isn’t that knowledgable and it’s more than obvious that he has a little something against the Sox. He fails to point out the reality that Jackson could get hot down the stretch and then be a pretty decent commodity for the Sox to move if Peavy makes a full-comeback if they so choose.

by stanchar on Jul 31, 2010 12:45 PM CDT reply actions  

I try to skip over Rogers column whenever possible

All he does is spew Selig propaganda

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Jul 31, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

He doesn't have something against the Sox

He covers Sox prospects for Baseball America, and gets too emotionally attached to them.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Jul 31, 2010 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tim Brown
Source: Just to be clear, the Angels are not in on Manny Ramirez. They are not the third team. Still White Sox and Rays…

Please find Jay Cutler some help...

by Jbasic89 on Jul 31, 2010 12:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Stark
Time to calm down on end of Manny-wood. Absolutely NO indications #Dodgers are trading him – today, anyhow? Watched them hit lately? #trades [via Twitter]

Please find Jay Cutler some help...

by Jbasic89 on Jul 31, 2010 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Desperate time

call for desperate measures

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Jul 31, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's working
SI_JonHeyman:
jackson for dunn is still a possibility. but nationals want #chisox to add another player or 2 [via Twitter]

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Jul 31, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

no it's not

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 31, 2010 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

"I'm sorry Ms Jackson, WOOOO, Dunn deal's for reeeal!"

"and to think that we're sex games over .500" - blackoutsox

by RWShow on Jul 31, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

never meant to make ya fanbase cry

i ap-ol-o-gize a trillion times

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Aug 1, 2010 1:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Now that a day has passed I am actually worried about WSOX in a Jackson-less

rotation.

I’d want another arm if Jackson head to the Nats, and I don’t know what that would be. Would LIvan Hernandez be thrown in for WSOX? Possibly…..

by stanchar on Jul 31, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

My best guess as to what KW is doing right now (in addition to banging his head against a wall)

Holding out small hope Rizzo folds, holding out smaller hope Manny becomes a real opportunity, and finally trying to convince Reagins Angels are done so he can acquire Matsui.

by stanchar on Jul 31, 2010 1:39 PM CDT reply actions  

In all seriousness though...

Is it looking like we aren’t going to get a bat? The deadline is fast approaching.

"Here's something: That if you want your father to think you're not a silly f*ck, don't slap a guy across the face with a glove. Because if you do that, that's what he will think. Unless you're a noble man or something in the nineteenth century. Which I am not." - Dave Spritz in The Weather Man

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 31, 2010 1:39 PM CDT reply actions  

no,

im bettin something goes down here pretty soon

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Jul 31, 2010 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome.

What do YOU think that something will be?

"Here's something: That if you want your father to think you're not a silly f*ck, don't slap a guy across the face with a glove. Because if you do that, that's what he will think. Unless you're a noble man or something in the nineteenth century. Which I am not." - Dave Spritz in The Weather Man

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 31, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dunn,

i still have faith!

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Jul 31, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

As much as I'd like Dunn...

I’m nervous because I really think that KW is going to overpay out of desperation. Then there will be a gaping hole in the rotation.

"Here's something: That if you want your father to think you're not a silly f*ck, don't slap a guy across the face with a glove. Because if you do that, that's what he will think. Unless you're a noble man or something in the nineteenth century. Which I am not." - Dave Spritz in The Weather Man

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 31, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I do think something is more likely than not to go down. The AL is certainly very tough, but it's

easier to make a serious case that this Sox team has Championship material, while let’s say 2008 one could not make the same claim.

Sure, not having Peavy was a huge blow. But we still have a very competitive front 3 (maybe 4 if EJac stays), but what differentiates this team I think is the chance to force an opponent to win a 5 or 6 inning game.

The pen is special, for lack of a better word choice right now, and becomes “specialer” when Sale joins it.

by stanchar on Jul 31, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

the girls at wrigley are weeping

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 31, 2010 1:43 PM CDT reply actions  

so are the men...

Please find Jay Cutler some help...

by Jbasic89 on Jul 31, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

so are the goats...

"Here's something: That if you want your father to think you're not a silly f*ck, don't slap a guy across the face with a glove. Because if you do that, that's what he will think. Unless you're a noble man or something in the nineteenth century. Which I am not." - Dave Spritz in The Weather Man

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 31, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Already included in comment above.

"and to think that we're sex games over .500" - blackoutsox

by RWShow on Jul 31, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

oh i know you keep a theriot jersey in your closet

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 31, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do you think if we got Doc Brown's time machine and went back in time...

that we could convince Joe Jackson to grow a beard and come to the future to play with this team?

"Here's something: That if you want your father to think you're not a silly f*ck, don't slap a guy across the face with a glove. Because if you do that, that's what he will think. Unless you're a noble man or something in the nineteenth century. Which I am not." - Dave Spritz in The Weather Man

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 31, 2010 1:47 PM CDT reply actions  

While we are at it

let’s build a baseball field in a cornfield in Iowa and move the team there…and have Joe plus Moonlight Graham join the team and when Ty Cobb wanted to play as well we tell him to shove it

FTC

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Jul 31, 2010 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Shoeless Joe's laugh after he describes telling Cobb to stick it

is one of the greatest moments in the history of cinema.

"Here's something: That if you want your father to think you're not a silly f*ck, don't slap a guy across the face with a glove. Because if you do that, that's what he will think. Unless you're a noble man or something in the nineteenth century. Which I am not." - Dave Spritz in The Weather Man

by Servant2LordBeckham on Jul 31, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

im kidnapping the corpse of jd salinger!

"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok

by DrEmilioLizardo on Jul 31, 2010 2:08 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I learned what a southpaw was from seeing that movie as a kid.

When the daughter was watching the Sox game on TV.

"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose

by Teahenny Penny on Jul 31, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Assumption: Cooper positively impacts Edwin Jackson.

Question: Who’s more valuable to the Sox THIS YEAR – Jackson or Adam Dunn?

"....we have to find a way to win. And good teams do that."

Tomas Kopecky May 29, 2010

by ballyb on Jul 31, 2010 1:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Dunn this year

Jackson when you count next year.

by shaftr on Jul 31, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

No doubt in my mind, Dunn.

"and to think that we're sex games over .500" - blackoutsox

by RWShow on Jul 31, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dunn

and its really not close

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2010 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

that said

Sox are still pretty much a coin flip to win division right now.

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dunn, Dunn, Dunn, Dunn.

I gotta take the other side.

I’m worried about the pitching,

Danks (not worried)
Floyd (not worried)
MB (~~ worried)
Garcia (very worried)
? (off the charts worried)

Just get a less than Dunn DH, any improvement from Kotsay / Jones / XXX. Fuck, just let Castro DH.

"....we have to find a way to win. And good teams do that."

Tomas Kopecky May 29, 2010

by ballyb on Jul 31, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

do you know how many hitters i am worried about?

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2010 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, but not 60% of the lineup.

"....we have to find a way to win. And good teams do that."

Tomas Kopecky May 29, 2010

by ballyb on Jul 31, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why are you worries about Buerhle

and who the hell is worried about a number starter?

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

number 5

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Jul 31, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

"and to think that we're sex games over .500" - blackoutsox

by RWShow on Jul 31, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

would you bring up carlos torres?

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jul 31, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up