White Sox Minor League Update is Moved
by larry on Aug 14, 2010 12:33 PM CDT
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PrintTyler Saladino is a productive collegiate shortstop from Oral Roberts University. He originally attended
University City High School in San Diego, California, where he was only an average prospect and not
really a draft prospect, so he went undrafted in the 2007 draft. He headed from high school to Palomar
Junior College in his home state, where he put together back-to-back impressive seasons, his
sophomore season being his best. He was drafted by the Astros late in the draft last June, and he didn’t
sign, instead continuing his career with Oral Roberts. He put up dazzling numbers this year as a junior,
and he has raised his draft stock to the point where a large enough number of scouts believe that he will
be a starting shortstop at the Major League level. At the plate, he’s a solid-average hitter with a good
idea of how to barrel up a ball, and he has slightly below-average power that should translate into a
good number of doubles at the next level. He’s a solid-average runner, too, so he’s always going to be an
offensive threat. Defensively, he’s a very good fielder, flashing above-average range and hands, and his
arm is also above-average. All these tools put together make a solid player, and scouts like how
productive he’s been in a jump from the junior college level to Division 1 baseball. He’s expected to go
somewhere in the fourth to seventh round area, where he should be signable for slot money.
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I didn't remember reading that about his defense
Nice to see he’ll have some room for error with the bat.
Fireworks: Bang?
short 0-5?
unpossible
Tonight, we fight as God intended. With 20-sided dice and graph paper.
by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 11, 2010 12:16 AM CDT
Koji Uehara sure screwed Tank up.
You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan
by Daniel Berlyn on Aug 16, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
that guy throws a baseball like I throw a dart
Tonight, we fight as God intended. With 20-sided dice and graph paper.
by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 11, 2010 12:16 AM CDT
by e-gus on Aug 16, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Damn you Morel...
you give me extra reason to hate that Teahen extension.
Maybe Morel starts next year and Teahen plays the role of super-sub like he is now?
Probably missed it
But are there any reports on what Morel looks like at SS?
by Grinder in Training on Aug 16, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions
the one game i watched he didn't get much action.
looked okay on turning a routine double play. other than that, nothing really difficult.
Thanks.. would be nice if he can actually play there
But I’d think if the guy could be a regular at SS, they’d never have put him at third in the first place.
by Grinder in Training on Aug 16, 2010 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Name a guy who started at 3B that turned into a good SS.
I’m sure there has to be a few but I am drawing a blank.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
well
not sure if we care if he’s good. he just needs to be average or so. there’s usually a reason, though, why players are moved off SS. in any event, whatever the reason he’s playing SS, i think it’s a good thing because it makes it that much more likely that he can crack the 25 man roster if he has some positional flexibility.
Answer the question, counselor! ;)
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
I can't think of anyone
not that you should be surprised by this ;)
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
It usually goes the other way
Chipper Jones and Aroid come to mind
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
by blackoutsox on Aug 16, 2010 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I can name 100 guys who started at ss.
Tonight, we fight as God intended. With 20-sided dice and graph paper.
by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 11, 2010 12:16 AM CDT
Ich auch.
Which is why I asked.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
Indeed, I did miss that.
Good, because I can’t see Viciedo’s bat sticking at 1st unless he makes some serious changes in his approach.
He's back at 3b to increase his trade value.
Morel is our 3b of the future.
I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok
the luis rodriguez curiosity
presumably doesn’t extend to our organization. is he the odd man out in charlotte with viciedo rejoining the infield mix? he’s obviously older than you’d hope to be legitimately figuring it out…
Any movement on those last two picks signing?
Rounds 2 and 4, IIRC
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
Apparently, I didn't recall correctly. Rounds 4 and 8.
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
Christ, just saw that the deadline is midnight ET, so probably won't know until tomorrow.
and yes, I have gone completely mad.
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
So you've replaced crack with meth, like Nicole Bobet?
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
No. Way. Man!
I’m sticking with our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.
Meth can go suck a fat one.
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
It's not sounding good on either
Grimes is apparently after $500k, with slot bonus estimated at $222,300.
by The Big Hurt on Aug 16, 2010 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
This must be how the Futurama gang must have felt when Professor Farnsworth said "Good news, everyone!"
weaksauce. straight up weaksauce.
You guys win. You can keep your little marked-out piece of internet territory. Spend your days communicating via keyboard with people too ugly for the real world and too nerdy for anyone to care, anyway. Your piece of land is here. Do the rest of civilization a favor and stay within its limits. You bore me. Have fun with your nightly sobs and screams into your pillow over your inability to attract a good mate, Radiohead. ~The Hooligan
by Daniel Berlyn on Aug 17, 2010 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, that sucks.
Not sure if Grimes and Terry were budding superstars, but it would be nice to have a few more warm bodies in the system.
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
i don't see how it hurts at all to throw in a few hundred thou
when there’s basically no opportunity cost.
Fireworks: Bang?
That's what you said to your Dad
before your freshman year. And look how that turned out.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
That's what they told you
so you wouldn’t feel so alone.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
They told you the people you lived with are your blood.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
by winningugly on Aug 17, 2010 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions
and this "they" you speak of?
you started off in the singular. now i don’t know where we are.
Fireworks: Bang?
Exactly.
If they are able to take on Edwin Jackson’s salary, I would think they could sweeten the pot to sign these guys.
Then again, what the hell do I know? I would have signed Thomer in the off-season.
(letting the bitterness seep out)
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
I'd be interested to hear how Morel looks at SS......
I noticed he’s played the last several games there as Dayan returned to 3B.
Youdaman.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
Please look further up this thread.
You’ll have your answer.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
I love how theres no question mark
its like, why me!
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
by blackoutsox on Aug 16, 2010 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I will remember that for the future
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
by blackoutsox on Aug 16, 2010 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
de aza 2-4, 2B, HR, BB
viciedo 0-5
morel 3-4, 2 HR
danks 0-4, 2 K and adding 2B to his repertoire
santeliz 1 IP, 0 H, 0 BB, 2 K
great game for morel
is it likely that morel could be a september call-up?
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 17, 2010 2:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Lt. Dayan not taking his demotion well.
Reminds me of a certain Josh Fields. Whatever happened to him?
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
the josh fields who couldn't hit fastballs?
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 17, 2010 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions
I see "relief pitcher" in his future
/channeling my inner Ms. Cleo, BWAHAHAHAHAHAA!!!!!
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
It was already in his past
For the White Sox, even.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Aug 17, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Wish I could say that's why I made the Ms. Cleo remark
but I don’t remember Fields ever pitching in a game.
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
http://www.baseball-reference.com/minors/player.cgi?id=fields002jos
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
BWAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
How said is it that I didn’t know that we had another Josh Fields in the minors at some point? I’ll just go ahead and blame larry.
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
There's also a Josh Fields in the mariners system I think.
A year or two younger then our third base prodigy.
I will also blame this on larry.
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
Once they reach the majors, though, it's all colintj's fault!
;)
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
barons game two
escobar 0-4
marrero 3-4, 3B
cj 0-2, BB
bellamy 1 IP, 1 H, 1 IBB, 0 K
infante 0.2 IP, 1 H, 2 BB, 0 K
FutureSox breaks down how much the AL Central teams spent on the draft
Chicago White Sox
First round picks:
1 (#13)
First round bonus:
$1,656,000
Total spent on first 10 rounds plus significant later round bonuses ($100k+):
$3,455,200
Over-slot signings:
#158 Andy Wilkins, $195,000 bonus vs. $158,400 slot
#308 Ross Wilson, $115,000 bonus vs. $80,000 slot
As expected the White Sox stuck to MLB’s slotting recommendations almost to the letter. Their stringent spending cost them two of the higher upside prospects in the class (4th rounder Matthew Grimes and 8th rounder Josef Terry), and leaves this draft class looking pretty weak in terms of impact talent. It’s a good job that Chris Sale’s agent was willing to be creative, otherwise he may not have been signed either.
Full article here.
if you're gonna do that
you don’t get to balk at paying for free agents. you can’t have a cheap team if you don’t go overslot. paying slot is effectively committing yourself to paying below market price.
Fireworks: Bang?
Yep, being penny-wise and pound-foolish, as my pops likes to say.
This team is doing a good job of trying to kill the White Sox fan in me. The Thomer thing, head-scratching trades, not paying the prospects they draft, playing like shit, trying to be an NL team in the AL, having Kotsay and Jones on the roster…it’s all adding up to a fan-killing experience at this point. And hell, I can’t even watch the games to get the instantaneous, up to the minute fan-killing experience; I’m getting murdered just reading the recaps.
Argh.
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
de aza 1-5, 2B
viciedo 3-5
flowers 1-4
morel 1-4, 2B
danks 1-3, BB
nunez 2 IP, 2 H, 0 BB, 4 K, 1 WP
threets 1 IP, 2 H, 1 IBB, 1 K
Welcome back, Lieutenant.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
by winningugly on Aug 17, 2010 11:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Brown Bear putting together a good game
Makes last night not quite so miserable.
by Grinder in Training on Aug 18, 2010 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't kid yourself, it doesn't make it any better.
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
Dayan Viciedo, 3B, White Sox (Triple-A Charlotte): 3-for-5, 2 K. First hits since return to minors; hasn’t drawn a walk since June 9, when he walked twice.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=11786
2010 Draft Review: AL Central
CHICAGO WHITE SOX
Number of First 10 Picks Signed: 8.
Highest Bonus Awarded: Chris Sale, Florida Gulf Coast, lhp, 13th overall.
College/HS Breakdown of 10 Highest Drafted Signees: 9/1.
Pitcher/Hitter Breakdown: 5/5.
Notable Performances Thus Far: Amazingly, Sale has already made four appearances with the White Sox, running a zero ERA through 3.2 innings. Combine that with 19 strikeouts in 10.1 innings in the minors … The three college pitchers making up the 2-4 rounds of the draft — Jacob Petricka, Addison Reed, Thomas Royse — have all been great in the low minors, though Petricka has moved onto a full season league … Top offensive signee Andy Wilkins is doing what’s expected: bashing in the Pioneer League at a .338/.417/.534 clip, while playing mostly third base … Meanwhile, top high school pick Rangel Ravelo has really struggled (.550 OPS) in the Appy League.
Thoughts: While I found SEC draftees Wilkins and Ross Wilson moderately inspiring, there’s no doubt this draft is centered completely around college pitching. I have to hope and assume that Sale will soak in some knowledge from Don Cooper these last two months, but then be ready to open next season in Double-A, as a starter. Petricka has some fantastic potential, and don’t sleep on ninth-round pick Kevin Moran, who also has a good arm. I’m not a huge fan of one-note drafts — in this case, college pitchers — but those arms have enough variety to not have me write off the strategy completely.
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/2010-draft-review-al-central/
Good.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
Please don't express interest in his progress.
Haven’t you done enough?
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Aug 18, 2010 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
de aza 2-4, 2B
viciedo 0-4
flowers 1-4, 2 K
morel 2-4
danks 1-4, K
torres 5.2 IP, 8 H, 3 BB, 1 K, 1 WP
santeliz 1 IP, 2 H, 2 BB, 2 K
Brent Morel, 3B/SS, White Sox (Triple-A Charlotte): 2-for-4, K. 16-for-38 (.421) in last nine games and .318/.346/.478 since move to Triple-A; even more fascinating is that he’s playing shortstop with Viciedo’s return to Charlotte.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=11799
Makes the plays he gets to, but limited range. RT @SouthSidelarry: @Kevin_Goldstein heard anything from scouts about morel’s defense at SS?
Re: "limited range" at SS
So…Morel can fill in at SS if someone gets tossed out of a game, but otherwise should stick to 3B.
I’ll take it.
In a vacuum, would you see Morel making the 2011 Sox based on his bat and defense at AAA?
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
making the team
perhaps not. up by june? likely.
it’s all speculative, of course, but i think omar is back next season. there are other roster moves that will happen which we just don’t know about yet. lillibridge, for example, will be out of options. merit-wise, morel may well beat out these and other unknown players. practically speaking, though, there are non-performance reasons out there, including morel’s service time.
Excellent. Thanks for your perspective.
I hope he continues to produce at AAA so that he’ll make a June 2011 call-up sensible
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
Moot point since Kenny will trade Morel and Sale for Brandon Webb before that time
Gotta have Peavy replacement for next year ready to go
It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted
by Scotty Ballgame on Aug 19, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Thanks for taking a nice, big dump in my Rice Krispies, asshole.
;)
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
haha
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 20, 2010 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions
Obviously Lt. Dayan's renaissance was short-lived.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
gee I wonder why
Thome Walks-Off Sox, Twists Knife, Continues To Make Sox Brass Look REALLY Stupid - White Sox Season Recap
not so hot sheet
Jon Gilmore, 3b, White Sox: Perhaps Gilmore has run out of steam. He’s hitting just .224/.250/.241 in August and hasn’t homered since June 25. His struggles worsened last week, when he was just 2-for-23 and both were singles. More nettlesome, the big picture for Gilmore, 21, isn’t adding up. He’s hit .321 this season, but it’s fairly empty with a 27/72 walk/strikeout ratio and just 28 extra-base hits. His .355 OBP and .402 slugging marks are greatly enhanced at home (.357/.391/.446 vs. .286/.318/.359), and he’s committed 35 errors while also grounding into 18 double plays. He’s a .321 hitter, but the rest of the numbers don’t scream “prospect.”
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/prospect-hot-sheet/2010/2610553.html
finaly tally for white sox 2010 draft bonuses
$3,930,200.
only four teams spent less. over the past three drafts, they’ve spent $12,772,300, which is the lowest in baseball over that timeframe.
by larry on Aug 20, 2010 1:09 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Keith (Quincy, MA): Is there anything wrong with Tyler Flowers this season? He isn’t hitting this season and that is the one thing he has always done well. Do you think the White Sox still see him has their catcher for next year and the future? Do you think he will be able to hit once he reaches the majors?
Matthew Eddy: I think he’s just getting exposed a bit by Triple-A pitchers. He’s a muscular, stiff athlete who has a great batting eye but maybe not the swing path or quickness to hit top pitchers. I’d feel better about his chances if he were a surefire catcher.
Jon (Bakersfield): Kind of an under-the-radar prospect, but what are your thoughts on Brent Morel. He’s been very good in AAA in just his second full season. Good defender, has been playing a lot of SS lately. Any chance for a September callup? Thank you!
Matthew Eddy: A definite sleeper. The White Sox have shown no hesitation to promote players when they’re deemed ready, so I’d look for Brent Morel sometime next season. An infield featuring Morel, Gordon Beckham and Alexei Ramirez could be a good one.
http://www.baseballamerica.com/today/prospects/prospect-hot-sheet/2010/2610554.html
yeahhh, that would be sweet!
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 22, 2010 3:19 AM CDT up reply actions
See, Jim, he likes my attention.
Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT
kanny game two
wickswat, petricka and thompson combine for a 7 innings no hitter
petricka 1 IP, 0 H, 1 BB, 2 K, 1 WP
saladino 1-3
thompson 0-3
gonzalez 1-2
silverio 0-1, S
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