Joe West Screws the White Sox Again
by larry on Aug 20, 2010 9:38 PM CDT
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PrintNot content with tossing Mark Buehrle from a start earlier this season, crew chief Joe West decided to permit the game to begin tonight despite anyone with one working eye seeing that rain - and likely lots of it - was going to arrive shortly after gametime (the Royals are at fault here, too, but they don't make as good a villain as Cowboy Joe).
Sure enough, the game was stopped nine minutes after it started. Of course, Edwin Jackson had gone through all of his warm-up and thrown seven pitches. Prudence dictates that you don't bring back a starting pitcher after that (Jackson wanted to start tomorrow and was overruled) and, as it stands right now, Freddy Garcia will start the first game of the doubleheader tomorrow and the second game's starter is TBA.
The White Sox, in the middle of a tight pennant race, will likely have to call on either a bullpen arm like Tony Pena or a minor league stopgap. Problem is that Carlos Torres, Lucas Harrell and Brandon Hynick have all started in the last three days for Charlotte. Jeffrey Marquez could go on short rest but he's had arm troubles and, even if he didn't have arm troubles, Marquez shouldn't start major league games. Birmingham could potentially supply Charlie Leesman or Johnnie Lowe but neither profiles as being able to start a major league game, either. And the White Sox probably would be reticent to make a roster move at this point, too, as it would likely mean sacrificing Chris Sale. John Danks on short rest is possible but moving up a day on short notice is also not prudent.
Thanks again, Joe.
edit: Jackson will now start game two. I'm sure they looked at these options and saw there wasn't much choice.
edit again: And now Jackson is not starting. Around and around we go.
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so much for prudence.
I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok
FPITB!
"Bee curful, dont wannur get sucked under der wheels like Mildreder's brudder ehr?"
by homesickalien on Aug 21, 2010 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions
we don't have jim thome.......it's over.
I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok
that's what she said
Vikings considering signing Carl Pavano's moustache for 2010 season as backup QB, possibly attaching to Favre.
by carlpavanosmoustache on Aug 20, 2010 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Cowboy Joe West
the only umpire in the majors who has a publicity agent
by ArsenicOReilly on Aug 20, 2010 10:30 PM CDT reply actions
What a fat, dumb, worthless fuck.
I’d like to hear his worthless reasoning for this…dumb ass.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Aug 20, 2010 10:30 PM CDT reply actions
Ozzie too angry to even speak to reporters...
That’s when you know Ozzie is really piping mad. I be surprised if Ozzie manages to go Saturday and Sunday without getting ejected by West.
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by chisoxfan1473 on Aug 20, 2010 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope you like my updated sig as well
"Because he's a (bleeping, bleep), that's what he is," Guillen said at the time of West (after Buehrle and Guillen ejected because of the balks) FUCK YOU JOE WEST
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by chisoxfan1473 on Aug 20, 2010 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions
I used to have that sig
without the censor. Fuck joe west
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by blackoutsox on Aug 21, 2010 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I actually kind of like the censor better
It allows you to use your imagination and you can insert the words of your choice there.
"Because he's a (bleeping, bleep), that's what he is," Guillen said at the time of West (after Buehrle and Guillen ejected because of the balks) FUCK YOU JOE WEST
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by chisoxfan1473 on Aug 21, 2010 12:49 AM CDT up reply actions
This will give me a reason to watch tomorrow,
cant wait to see what Ozzie has in store for good ole’ Joe
Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''
Well, it was fun reaffirming the fact that Frank Thomas is a tank.
DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY
it took me a while to calm down after thome's homer
but i finally got there. now there’s this, and i am a bit riled up again.
i am a bark for buffeting. i am a hound for thornypaws. i am a doe for swiftness. i am a tree for wind-siege. i am a windmill. i am a hole in a wall.
in fact, i have decided that,
depending on the umpire rotation, (if they don’t change the rotation joe west would be at 2nd base in the second game tomorrow. if it does change he would be at 2nd in the first game) i would like to see a double play grounder hit while quentin is occupying first base and i would like for quentin to perform one of his patented takeout slides not on the middle infielder but on fucking cowboy fucking joe fucking west.
i am a bark for buffeting. i am a hound for thornypaws. i am a doe for swiftness. i am a tree for wind-siege. i am a windmill. i am a hole in a wall.
spike that fuckers knee!
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by blackoutsox on Aug 21, 2010 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions
You say prudence dictates... but dictates what?
Is his elbow or shoulder going to explode if he pitches tomorrow?
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Aug 20, 2010 11:47 PM CDT reply actions
and wasnt this fucker suspended?
also, when did sale last pitch? any chance of starting???
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I want that guy who beat the A's that one time
I can’t remember his name right now
Can’t remember much of anything
Room is spinning
Die Msma.,/xsaf v c
signature
Lucas Harrell
larry addressed him
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game of 2008.
by NorthSidePaulie on Aug 21, 2010 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Sweaty Freddy up tomorrow I guess...
Too bad he’s been broken for the last month now.
When life gives ya lemons, shut up and eat your damn lemons.
All I heard until now was that the game was rained out.
Joe West is a stupid motherfucker.
Today's lesson in Guillenese: "Da Chicaja Juaiso."
also, fuck al yellon
And Luis Aparicio’s #11 can go back to being retired; it never should have been "unretired" in the first place.
http://chicago.sbnation.com/2010/8/20/1633179/omar-vizquel-wants-to-play-in-2011
hey fucknut, vizquel asked if he could have the number as a tribute and luis said it was cool.
i don’t need this.
i am a bark for buffeting. i am a hound for thornypaws. i am a doe for swiftness. i am a tree for wind-siege. i am a windmill. i am a hole in a wall.
oh fuckit.
i’m going streaking.
i am a bark for buffeting. i am a hound for thornypaws. i am a doe for swiftness. i am a tree for wind-siege. i am a windmill. i am a hole in a wall.
sbnchicago still doesnt have any readers?
how long did it take this site to develop?
Thome Walks-Off Sox, Twists Knife, Continues To Make Sox Brass Look REALLY Stupid - White Sox Season Recap
and whatever happend to the editors picks?
Thome Walks-Off Sox, Twists Knife, Continues To Make Sox Brass Look REALLY Stupid - White Sox Season Recap
It doesn't have any readers because the two most prominent writers are Al Yellon and George Castle.
DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 21, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
The headline is great in and of itself
Omar Vizquel Wants To Play In 2011. Question: Why?
Hope he’s not writing the 2011 White Sox Anal too.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
by Sox Machine on Aug 21, 2010 6:20 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Why the fuck is he writing anything about the Sox?
Isn’t/shouldn’t SBNCHI an aggregator of specialized SBN sites?
The Cubs guy writing about the Sox is pure arrogance or ignorance.
FAY
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2010 6:59 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Stupid 24-hour waiting period
I was going to write, “Cubs blogger tries to analyze the White Sox. Question: Why?” But I’ll probably forget by the time I’m allowed to.
EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine
Not if we remind you incessantly
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
I already signed up for it, no waiting period
Want me to do it for you?
"Because he's a (bleeping, bleep), that's what he is," Guillen said at the time of West (after Buehrle and Guillen ejected because of the balks) FUCK YOU JOE WEST
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by chisoxfan1473 on Aug 21, 2010 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
That post is full of stink
As is anything else Al Yellon writes.
"Because he's a (bleeping, bleep), that's what he is," Guillen said at the time of West (after Buehrle and Guillen ejected because of the balks) FUCK YOU JOE WEST
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by chisoxfan1473 on Aug 21, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Call the police before I post something threatening.
FY,AY. Stay in your designated Cubbies playpen.
"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose
by Teahenny Penny on Aug 21, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
if ozzie gets ejected in the first game of a double header, can he come back for the second?
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Why wouldn't he?
They’re two different games…
"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."
-RWShow
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 21, 2010 2:30 AM CDT up reply actions
WTF is sbnchicago?
Al yellow? Whatever I’m going to bed. Fuck that fat fuck Joel west.
"I haven’t gotten to where I am by giving up easily." - Ari Gold
by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 21, 2010 5:22 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
what? its only 2:22 am
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I wonder if he looses food
between the folds of his neck….Hell, I wonder if he’s even got a neck or just neck fat..
"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."
-RWShow
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 21, 2010 2:31 AM CDT reply actions
Thome's jug-ears
can block the rain. The hurt doesn’t stop.
A night double header??
That won’t end until colin wakes up?
I know it’s KC, but I hope Phreddy understands the import of going deep so Pena is available for #2, as starter or long man.
Jeez.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2010 6:55 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
why can't they move it to Monday?
My Beerdrunk soul is sadder than all the dead christmas trees of the world
do not understand logic of starting game at 7:10
why not do an afternoon one? It’s a weekend so wouldn’t think it will affect ticket sales
My Beerdrunk soul is sadder than all the dead christmas trees of the world
Fox has exclusive TV rights to Saturday afternoons
Game actually is starting at 6:10pm
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Aug 21, 2010 7:39 AM CDT up reply actions
Ah, of course.
Another case of Fox ruining America (but mostly my baseball-oriented Saturday).
"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose
by Teahenny Penny on Aug 21, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm pretty sure Joe West's legs won't last for back to back DH's.
I pray it’s hot and humid tonight so that fat fuck suffers a fate similar to a beached whale.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Aug 21, 2010 7:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Golf ball in his airhole?
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
by Chiburb on Aug 21, 2010 7:46 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
yeah, costanza will save him.
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Aug 21, 2010 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions
he's an importer/exporter
I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok
my son, TREATING HIS BODY LIKE AN AMUSEMENT PARK!
"I haven’t gotten to where I am by giving up easily." - Ari Gold
by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 21, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
For an update, we turn to Paul Linnman:
"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose
by Teahenny Penny on Aug 21, 2010 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions
WTF - BA has his fastball up to 97mph to match a slider?
I was hoping he was gonna be called up for the DH, but I guess not.
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hUZ3yWYJ9wkhVUaOzJkvPBcJk3bgD9HNJUJG0
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
oh my shit!
Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''
good for him....hope he makes it.
No sox player in recent memory have I rooted for so illogically. Can’t explain or justify, I just do.
"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok
by DrEmilioLizardo on Aug 21, 2010 3:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Not Joe West's Call
Rule 3.10(a) The manager of the home team shall be the sole judge as to whether a game shall be started because of unsuitable weather conditions or the unfit condition of the playing field, except for the second game of a doubleheader.
youdaman.
i am a bark for buffeting. i am a hound for thornypaws. i am a doe for swiftness. i am a tree for wind-siege. i am a windmill. i am a hole in a wall.
yes, it is.
rulebooks are nice. how things actually work is better.
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/08/west-is-not-best-for-white-sox.html
http://www.kansascity.com/2010/08/20/2163928/rain-forces-postponement-of-royals.html
still not convinced
Are you saying that Ned Yost didn’t want to start the game, but Joe West made them play anyway? Alternatively, are you saying that some time between when the home team’s batting card was handed to the umps and when the game started, as described in rule 4.01(d), Joe West railroaded the game into starting?
by GhostOfRooney on Aug 21, 2010 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Nobody does.
Umpires say “Play,” never “Play ball.” That’s in the rule book, too.
More importantly, before the umpire says “play,” here’s what happens:
4.01 Unless the home club shall have given previous notice that the game has been postponed or will be delayed in starting, the umpire, or umpires, shall enter the playing field five minutes before the hour set for the game to begin and proceed directly to home base where they shall be met by the managers of the opposing teams. In sequence —
(a) First, the home manager shall give his batting order to the umpire-in-chief, in duplicate.
…
(d) As soon as the home team’s batting order is handed to the umpire-in-chief the umpires are in charge of the playing field and from that moment they shall have sole authority to determine when a game shall be called, suspended or resumed on account of weather or the condition of the playing field.
So, if Yost didn’t want the game to start, it wasn’t going to start, up until the time the home batting order was in the umpire’s hands. After that, it’s all on the umps. That’s the way it works.
by GhostOfRooney on Aug 21, 2010 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Look here.
You don’t know whose call it was. I did, and I told you, citing directly from the rules. Then you dismissed the rules, and I asked you to clarify yourself, and you further displayed that you didn’t know the rules. So I say, why are YOU arguing all of this?
by GhostOfRooney on Aug 21, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions
i don't care about the rules.
i’ve seen this go on in practice many times. maybe what they do follows the rules to the letter. maybe it doesn’t. i don’t care. i know it’s ultimately the umpires who decide whether to start the game. i acknowledged the role of the royals in the very post you’re commenting. you’re the one who said it wasn’t joe west’s call. then you said it was joe west’s call. now you’re saying you don’t know.
well,
What really happened was, I posted the relevant rule, and you dismissed it on the authority of Mark Gonzales. It was clear you were in the wilderness on this, so I threw you a lifeline by giving you the option of embracing rule 4.01(d) to avoid looking foolish. Predictably, you waved it off and claimed you don’t care about the rules and I am argumentative. OK, I am not trying to convince you to care about the rules, but if you don’t know the rules, don’t claim to know how MLB games begin and end. And if you want to know, don’t read and cite Mark Gonzales. Instead, read the freely-available rulebook.
by GhostOfRooney on Aug 21, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm amused
by how both of you are revising how the argument has went as you go along.
it is like the work of historians in miniature.
Hey, watch it. Some of us actually are professional historians. . .
Though your jab at the profession is not without some merit.
so i write a post that says it was joe west's call.
you tell me it wasn’t joe west’s call. then you tell me it is joe west’s call. and i’m the one who should try to avoid looking foolish.
yes you should
I believe the game runs by the rulebook. You believe the game runs by some unwritten code that only insiders like you and Mark Gonzales know much about. If I were a manager, and the ump threw a medicine ball to my pitcher and yelled “play,” I would protest, rulebook in hand. You, more enlightened, would nod your head thoughtfully and say, as you do above, “How things actually work is better.”
by GhostOfRooney on Aug 21, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
and apparently the game does run by the rulebook.
i didn’t bother to waste my time reading and citing the rulebook because i’ve watched the game played before. i’ll be sure to repeatedly and extensively cite the rulebook when things like strikeouts, walks and catches occur so i can ensure that people like you don’t feel the need to tell me that i need to avoid looking foolish when they’re the ones who are foolishly wrong.
it does.
I’ll admit that this has devolved into a silly argument, but I had a legitimate contribution to make in my first post, as there was a front page story and a lot of further comments without anybody referring to how these things actually work. The intention was not to argue, but to shed some light. I don’t think anybody’s a fool for not knowing this part of the rulebook, but when somebody shows you the rule, why dismiss it?
by GhostOfRooney on Aug 21, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
because you showed me a rule that wasn't the right rule.
i know it was the umpire’s call. i know it was the umpire who indeed made the call last night. that’s why i dismissed it. i don’t care enough about the rules to go through them in these situations. you found the right rule eventually.
That's good for a laugh.
What you knew came from Mark Gonzales, who wrote:
“Joe West — who was intent on starting the game after meeting with a grounds crew worker about 20 minutes before the game….”
Well, 20 minutes before the game is a time at which Joe West has zero control over whether the game begins. Joe West took control of that game about three minutes before the first pitch. Given your preference for what you’ve seen with your own eyes over the rulebook, can you remind me of a game in which lineups were exchanged at home plate and the first pitch was not thrown?
Again, I have no problem with anybody who doesn’t give a hoot about the rulebook. But if you don’t, how can you claim with any authority that an umpire “screws” the Sox?
by GhostOfRooney on Aug 21, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
no. check the timestamps for my post and gonzales' post.
and we can stop now. this is beyond fucking stupid.
actually it's quite entertaining.
"I haven’t gotten to where I am by giving up easily." - Ari Gold
by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 21, 2010 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I stand corrected on that.
But your assessment of the damage in your front page post was this:
“Sure enough, the game was stopped nine minutes after it started. Of course, Edwin Jackson had gone through all of his warm-up and thrown seven pitches.”
Now, given what we’ve learned about when Joe West assumed control of the game, how much of the blame for Jackson being used up falls on West, and how much falls on either Ozzie or Ned Yost?
Of course none of it falls on Yost, as it’s his job to beat the Sox. If he’s that clever, good for him. Thus, the rest is on Ozzie’s shoulders.
by GhostOfRooney on Aug 21, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
it seems
that the game will be completely restarted from top of the first inning according to mlb.com scoreboard. this is a small positive! are there distinct rules determing when a game is ‘continued’ from where it was stopped on another day, versus when it is completely reset? obviously, this whole thing completely sucks ass. thanx.
rules
Any game that’s called prior to becoming a complete game (5 innings) is restarted from the opening pitch and all records from the game are scratched.
by Wayne Nordhagen on Aug 21, 2010 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions
rulebook
This stuff can be found in rule 4.10-12. Last night’s game is covered in 4.10(e), and it is “No Game.” They do follow these rules.
by GhostOfRooney on Aug 21, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
danks should step up tonight
Danks should step up like the ace he’s supposed to be and pitch on three days rest. I remember the same thing happening a few years ago and Buehrle stepped in and got the job done. Besides, the last time he pitched on 3 days rest was Game 163 in 2008. I think that turned out okay. I’m guessing Danks agent would have something to say about it though.
Even if West had called the game prior to the first pitch, wouldn’t the Sox still be in the same predicament as Jackson would have gone through his full warm-up routine? Or do you think he should have made the call for the delay at about 6:30 even though the rain hadn’t started yet? I don’t think I’ve ever heard that happening before. As much as I’d love to blame this on West, I think it might just be bad luck with the weather and clock.
by Wayne Nordhagen on Aug 21, 2010 10:07 AM CDT reply actions
read the post again.
and a pitcher going on short rest usually adjusts their in between start schedules appropriately. can’t do that the day before. if you’re talking about september 2008 with MB, rather different situations because he knew since his previous start he’d be on short rest.
not what I was talking about
I was thinking of a game in April or May over the last few years. But I can’t see any record of Buehrle pitching on three days rest that early in the season in recent years. Maybe he was supposed to get five days rest but instead took the ball a day early because of the weather.
by Wayne Nordhagen on Aug 21, 2010 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
The Astros had shirts made up a couple years ago...... Bud Selig Screwed Us.
Maybe you guys can get shirts saying Joe West Screwed Us.
i don't see that happening.
maybe you can get a shirt saying MY TEAM SCREWED ME.
i am a bark for buffeting. i am a hound for thornypaws. i am a doe for swiftness. i am a tree for wind-siege. i am a windmill. i am a hole in a wall.
yeah, my team screwed me this year too
but he needs to stay out of white sox business!
i am a bark for buffeting. i am a hound for thornypaws. i am a doe for swiftness. i am a tree for wind-siege. i am a windmill. i am a hole in a wall.
YEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAW
"I haven’t gotten to where I am by giving up easily." - Ari Gold
by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 21, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Former Chicago Sun-Times columnist Jay Mariotti was arrested overnight on what a police source told the paper was domestic disturbance charge, a potential felony.
Following the Beijing Olympics, Mariotti left the paper to write his column for AOL Fanhouse. He is also a frequent contributor to ESPN’s “Around the Horn.”
Mariotti is being held on $50,000 bail.
http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/08/jay-mariotti-arrested-in-los-angeles.html
by larry on Aug 21, 2010 10:48 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
Outstanding.
"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112
jay and jay glazer
must have had a lover’s quarrel over who’s the bigger loudmouth
"The game's out there and it's play or get played..."
by Air Raid Siren Stan on Aug 21, 2010 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
There is a God.
I love all of you here today. Just because of this.
"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."
-RWShow
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 21, 2010 12:18 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Our long national nightmare is over.
DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 21, 2010 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Wait, you mean he wasn't arrested all the other times his bullshit got published?
"Because he's a (bleeping, bleep), that's what he is," Guillen said at the time of West (after Buehrle and Guillen ejected because of the balks) FUCK YOU JOE WEST
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by chisoxfan1473 on Aug 21, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
A. how is this not green.
B. Jay has a girlfriend?
"I haven’t gotten to where I am by giving up easily." - Ari Gold
by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 21, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
C. Jay likes women?
"I haven’t gotten to where I am by giving up easily." - Ari Gold
by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 21, 2010 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Article doesn't mention women.
Could be the work of a flamer.
"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose
by Teahenny Penny on Aug 21, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Could Guillen Have Held Out Jackson Knowing There Was A 100% Chance of Unrelenting Rain?!
At Some Point, Prior to the Lineups Being Submitted, Could Jackson have been considered a “Late Scratch” – and then Pena Could have prepared for the 7 pitch outing? I know it’s easy to switch around position players prior to submitting the lineup card, but does the some of the responsibility shift from Joe West to Guillen?
Discussed this last night in the "game"thread
"Because he's a (bleeping, bleep), that's what he is," Guillen said at the time of West (after Buehrle and Guillen ejected because of the balks) FUCK YOU JOE WEST
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by chisoxfan1473 on Aug 21, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions
last nite's game
I don’t understand that either. Unless they thought they could get 5 inn. in, you can really change somebody’s rotation or force someone to make a AAA callup for one game, it just doesn’t make sense. When Hawk and Frank said there would be a lot more rain to come, I wondere why even start the game in the first place.
This is BS. Jackson should pitch today.
Stop coddling these grown men :)
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
My wish is granted. Now, how 'bout that million dollars?
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Aug 21, 2010 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
So when is the DH supposed to take place?
According to the TV listings, the games are on regular times, but then I checked this on the White Sox probables list.
http://chicago.whitesox.mlb.com/news/probable_pitchers/index.jsp?c_id=cws
Look at the 2nd one. They wanted to play when some people were asleep?
When life gives ya lemons, shut up and eat your damn lemons.
I still cant' figure out why this DH is starting so late.
The FOX blackout rules only apply to games between 4:10 PM EDT and 7:05 EDT PM. Games that start before 1:10 can be on local TV (and the extra-innings cable packages). So, why didn’t they play Game 1 at noon local time and then Game 2 at 7:05 local time? That way, the Royals could have gotten two gate receipts. I presume they are doing this like in the old days, when you bought one ticket for a DH and got to see two games.
Can anybody clarify this at all?
a lot of kansas city still doesn't have power and is cleaning up after this storm.
this wasn’t some drizzle. the park itself apparently had some problems, too, including loss of power. i think they were concerned that a noon start would be too early and the stadium wouldn’t be ready.
There you go again, saying that rules don't matter.
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by Rhubarb on Aug 19, 2010 5:42 PM CDT
by South Side Expat on Aug 21, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't see how Larry is saying that the rules don't matter here
Both KC-CHW games are under contract to be shown on local TV. Because of the FOX exclusivity agreement, Game 1 cannot start between 3:00 and 6:00 local time and be shown on local TV. That leaves two options: start Game 1 early (around noon) or start Game 1 the moment that the FOX exclusivity agreement ends.
KC seems to have chosen the later start time because of the storm damage.
Whosh.
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by Rhubarb on Aug 19, 2010 5:42 PM CDT
by South Side Expat on Aug 21, 2010 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions
i stand by my words
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by pierzynskirules on Aug 21, 2010 2:52 PM CDT reply actions
per Gonzo
Jackson now scratched for Game 2, TBA for Game 2, although it could be Pena.
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is there a rule that covers when a pitcher can be scratched after he is announced?
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Rule 3.05(a)
Basically, if a pitcher’s name is on the lineup card exchanged at home plate just before the game, he’s got to face at least one batter.
by GhostOfRooney on Aug 21, 2010 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions
what if the game is delayed?
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I don't see any allowance in there.
There’s an “injury or illness” clause in that rule, subject to the judgment of the umpire. Perhaps if there’s a long delay, the umpire’s judgment adjusts accordingly.
by GhostOfRooney on Aug 21, 2010 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Umm ....
When is Game 2 going to be played? I see 6:10 CT for Game 1 but there is no start time for the second game. Did it get moved to tomorrow ?
game 2 will be played after game 1
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by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 21, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
if it goes into extra innings
those extra innings will count towards the 2nd game of the double header. citing rule 5.01.
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by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 21, 2010 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions
MLB Extra Innings lists the start time as 10:40 PM EDT . . . .
which I presume is just an estimate. Back in the day, when DH’s were part of the regular schedule, there was some regulation (I don’t have an old rule book in front of me, sorry) that Game 2 started X number of minutes after the conclusion of the first game.
I suspect something like that in place now for this unusual circumstances that is part of the collective bargaining agreement.
I think they've said 30 minutes after the conclusion of Game 1
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by chisoxfan1473 on Aug 21, 2010 6:21 PM CDT up reply actions
this game canceling stuff is fun. here's what rongey just said on the score:
he said that the home team decides whether or not to start a game unless the two teams are playing each other for the last time of the season in whatever city they are in. if that’s the case, (as it is in this case as it’s the last time the sox are scheduled to be in kc) then the crew chief decides whether or not to start the game.
can that be true? sounds doubtful to me.
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kinda true
Here’s the rest of Rule 3.10(a):
EXCEPTION: Any league may permanently authorize its president to suspend the application of this rule as to that league during the closing weeks of its championship season in order to assure that the championship is decided each year on its merits. When the postponement of, and possible failure to play, a game in the final series of a championship season between any two teams might affect the final standing of any club in the league, the president, on appeal from any league club, may assume the authority granted the home team manager by this rule.
So what happens (I guess) is that the league president, acting through the umpires, takes the reins. My understanding is that the league president ends up on the phone with the umpires at the ballpark, figuring out what to do.
by GhostOfRooney on Aug 21, 2010 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions
This changes everything.
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by GhostOfRooney on Aug 21, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions
so it is true
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by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 21, 2010 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions
don't be so xubrent
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by mick10 on Aug 21, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
heh
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by Shoeless In SC on Aug 21, 2010 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions
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