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Joe West Sucks, But Not As Much As White Sox

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There can be an argument made that Joe West cost the White Sox this series (and maybe the season in the process), but that's the type of excuse losers make. The Comcast Sports Net broadcast was unlistenable today, as Hawk, completely unchecked with yes-man Frank Thomas in the booth, got to whine about every blown strike call.

Look, Joe West sucks. He's a terrible umpire with an obvious grudge and an agenda. But these are the Royals, who suck at baseball more than West sucks at objectivity. Good teams overcome small obstacles like Joe West.

The White Sox are not a good team right now. Sunday's game marks the 8th time in the last 17 days that they've lost a game by one run. They're good enough to lose close.

I know many of you want to blame West for a weekend that saw the Sox play 30+ innings in 22 hours with an already depleted pen and one starter short. But Ozzie needs to recognize that West is gonna be a douche about Friday's start time, and burn Linebrink instead of Jackson. He didn't make a proactive decision that could have helped his team immensely.

I'd go on, and I might later tonight, but the point is this; you're probably not going to find another absurd series like this for the rest of your life. I think we can all be thankful for that.

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Bring on the Packers season!

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Aug 22, 2010 4:31 PM CDT reply actions  

ITA.

"Inferstructure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" by Rhubarb, Aug. 19, 2010 5:59 PM

by winningugly on Aug 22, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Outstanding.

"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112

by RWShow on Aug 22, 2010 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

dont feed the trolls

"I haven’t gotten to where I am by giving up easily." - Ari Gold

by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 22, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bring on the FIBA World Championship!

DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 22, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

bring on the world cup!

Thome Walks-Off Sox, Twists Knife, Continues To Make Sox Brass Look REALLY Stupid - White Sox Season Recap

by blackoutsox on Aug 22, 2010 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

go bleep yourself

"I haven’t gotten to where I am by giving up easily." - Ari Gold

by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 22, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

"packers" season?

"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112

by RWShow on Aug 22, 2010 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am deeply offended by all of this

Thome Walks-Off Sox, Twists Knife, Continues To Make Sox Brass Look REALLY Stupid - White Sox Season Recap

by blackoutsox on Aug 22, 2010 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

call the cops!

Tell them to bring more singles!

"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok

by DrEmilioLizardo on Aug 22, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

we are in the minority here,

but im not afraid to say at “Go Greenbay!”

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Aug 22, 2010 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

A not insignificant minority I might add

Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game of 2008.

by NorthSidePaulie on Aug 22, 2010 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

And again

Not really a huge minority.

When life gives ya lemons, shut up and eat your damn lemons.

by P-Townfan on Aug 23, 2010 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oxymoron-

Huge Minority.
Fielding DH
Professional Wrestling
Sox Timely Hitting

"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok

by DrEmilioLizardo on Aug 23, 2010 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

kenwo will man slam you

"The trouble with baseball is that the player who knows how to bat and field the best is sitting in the bleachers" or on sss!?!

by Grinder Rule #42 on Aug 23, 2010 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

1-10 with RISP in KC, if I recall the article in the tribune.

Not Timely. Not Clutch. Very Grindy.

"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok

by DrEmilioLizardo on Aug 23, 2010 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's not matching tats

Mauer’s got the squished remains of the Sox right nut under his left foot. Morneau has the squished remains of the Sox left nut under his right foot.

"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."

-RWShow

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 22, 2010 10:15 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

now THAT'S funny

Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game of 2008.

by NorthSidePaulie on Aug 22, 2010 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Joe West is holding a grudge against us then I'll hold a grudge against him regardless of loser excuses or not

Fuck Joe West

"Because he's a (bleeping, bleep), that's what he is," Guillen said at the time of West (after Buehrle and Guillen ejected because of the balks) FUCK YOU JOE WEST
On Twitter? Follow my occasional rants about whatever...

by chisoxfan1473 on Aug 22, 2010 4:31 PM CDT reply actions  

Joe West says: "You gonna eat that?"

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Aug 22, 2010 4:32 PM CDT reply actions  

and Bobby Jenks replies, "Hell yes!"

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Aug 22, 2010 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Joe West is a terrible person

and a terrible umpire. But he didn’t cost us this series.

Also, I have to say, the conventional wisdom that Jackson can’t pitch again after warming up and pitching one inning is bunk. Pena did a great job, though.

by Gentleman Jim on Aug 22, 2010 4:34 PM CDT reply actions  

conventional wisdom has never gotten in Ned Yost's way

The starter in Friday’s game ended up being the winner in today’s game

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Aug 22, 2010 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

He started a reliever Friday. That reliever did not start today.

Apples and oranges.

And it isn’t “conventional wisdom”. It’s protecting a multi-million dollar investment.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver

by Chiburb on Aug 22, 2010 6:31 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

So wisdom says - we were out managed again!

"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"

by Brush Back on Aug 22, 2010 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Player of the series: Tony Pena

That was huge for Pena to go 7 innings in an emergency start. Of course the bullpen has to hog the win for themselves.

"Because he's a (bleeping, bleep), that's what he is," Guillen said at the time of West (after Buehrle and Guillen ejected because of the balks) FUCK YOU JOE WEST
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by chisoxfan1473 on Aug 22, 2010 4:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Looks about right.

I want to rip off West’s head and take a shit right down his fat focking neck.

"Bee curful, dont wannur get sucked under der wheels like Mildreder's brudder ehr?"

by homesickalien on Aug 22, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'll hold him up for you.

"I haven’t gotten to where I am by giving up easily." - Ari Gold

by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 22, 2010 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn...

I was working on a piece called “The Dough Menagerie: Pivotal Moments in Joe West’s Life” (a fictional timeline)…I’ll shelve it…

by Rhubarb on Aug 22, 2010 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's pretty consistent

with what I thought I was watching with West today. He’s just an awful umpire, and he doesn’t seem to care much that he’s awful. Hawk can repeat a thousand times that West has a chip on his shoulder against the Sox blah blah blah, but honestly I doubt it. I think West is just very bad at judging things like balls and strikes, something which should be a prerequisite for his job but isn’t.

I’d really like to see more technology implemented in the minor leagues to judge umpire quality, as well as a clearinghouse to keep track of close calls like they did for a week on Outside the Lines. The umpires in the minors with the best strike zones and best judgment on the basepaths would move to the Major Leagues. Not gonna happen, though, as I’m sure there are seventy or so Wendelstadt children and grandchildren coming down the pipes.

by Gentleman Jim on Aug 22, 2010 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

i thought the one to konerko was extremely bad

but you gotta beat the fucking royals whether joe west is the ump or not.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 22, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

"Inferstructure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" by Rhubarb, Aug. 19, 2010 5:59 PM

by winningugly on Aug 22, 2010 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112

by RWShow on Aug 22, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bingo.

This recap should focus on how in this 6 game road trip, we had to play 4 extra inning games and lost 3 of them. The Royals has to deal with Fat Ass too.

"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."

-RWShow

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 22, 2010 9:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I don't think you read the recap.

DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 22, 2010 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well

I meant (but didn’t type) the comments that follow.

"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."

-RWShow

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 23, 2010 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

does anybody know

if there are strikezone plots in a more color-blind friendly format?

Why is this brainless, legless drunk still on my TV?-RWShow

by soxshenanigans on Aug 23, 2010 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

i just see triangles and squares

you’d think they’d pick colors other then red and green. i guess i just can’t back up my bitching about strikezones then.

Why is this brainless, legless drunk still on my TV?-RWShow

by soxshenanigans on Aug 23, 2010 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am dead serious.

I feel bad that you can’t…they should put them in grays and blacks and whites.

jury is out..but I appreciate your willingness to wait until the Sox are 7 games out with 6 left to play.
by SavePeavytill2010 on Aug 23, 2010 9:15 PM CDT

by Rhubarb on Aug 23, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never even considered this before.

"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112

by RWShow on Aug 23, 2010 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did somebody put the CD player on repeat again??

and again and again. This is getting old.

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Aug 22, 2010 5:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Take that, optimism!

Sincerely,
Chicago White Sox

We only respectable members of the blog to any kind of standard. - Grinder In Training

by omnipotent grab on Aug 22, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which part?

Rehashing a loss to a bad team or trying to spin how we are still in the race?

"Inferstructure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" by Rhubarb, Aug. 19, 2010 5:59 PM

by winningugly on Aug 22, 2010 6:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

stfu tdogg, you quitter, the season isn't over yet

"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 22, 2010 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yet another sucky weekend...

I need more beer.

I've never seen a supernova blow up, but if it's anything like my old Chevy Nova, it'll light up the night sky. - Fry

by Marked Hoosier on Aug 22, 2010 5:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Clear enough, mish moneypenny....
Cubs blogger tries analyzing White Sox. Question: Why?
Since Mark Teahen got hurt, Vizquel has hit .319/.384/.382 in an everyday role. That’s a .384 OBP in front of Paul Konerko in 220 plate appearances since May 30, and his glove is a massive, massive upgrade over Teahen.

But yeah. I can totally see why he and everybody else should think he’s done. Good police work.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
by Sox Machine on Aug 22, 2010 10:59 AM PDT reply actions 4 recs

link

"Bee curful, dont wannur get sucked under der wheels like Mildreder's brudder ehr?"

by homesickalien on Aug 22, 2010 5:58 PM CDT reply actions  

youdawoman

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Aug 22, 2010 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nah, I didn't want it to be lost in the gt.

"Bee curful, dont wannur get sucked under der wheels like Mildreder's brudder ehr?"

by homesickalien on Aug 22, 2010 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what the RR for ; )

I figured the green would make it stand out

It was then I realized vegans can’t be trusted

by Scotty Ballgame on Aug 22, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112

by RWShow on Aug 23, 2010 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Joe West - Really?

1 for 10 with runners in scoring position and you want to blame it on the a jackass umpire? Really?

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain

by phastphil on Aug 22, 2010 6:22 PM CDT reply actions  

read closer

Thome Walks-Off Sox, Twists Knife, Continues To Make Sox Brass Look REALLY Stupid - White Sox Season Recap

by blackoutsox on Aug 22, 2010 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wasn't talking to

the Cheat – my comment is directed toward other commentary the post is right on.

"Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." - Mark Twain

by phastphil on Aug 22, 2010 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ulises Chino Flores I STILL GOT HOPE BUT THIS SEASON IS OVER!!!!WE NEED 2 GET RID OF OZZIE,AND BUILD THIS TEAM RIGHT AND START WITH PITCHERS WITH HEART!!!THANKS OZZIE FOR YOUR STAY U DID GREAT BUT YOUR HARDHEADED ASS IS TOO MUCH!!!!I BEEN TO THE GAMES AND WATCHED YOU.YOU R TOO MUCH OF ONE OF THE GUYS TO LEAD US ANYMORE!!!YOU JOKE AND PLAY WITH ALL THE PLAYERS INCLUDING THE OTHER TEAM!!!WE NEED A SERIOUS WINNER NO BULLSHIT MANAGER!!

by larry on Aug 22, 2010 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ulises is all over the map.

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Aug 22, 2010 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's the decades away from Penelope....

"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok

by DrEmilioLizardo on Aug 22, 2010 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Yes."

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Aug 22, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep. Too convenient.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver

by Chiburb on Aug 22, 2010 6:36 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Cheat, this is completely accurate.

Good work. Losing two one-run games to the Royals, who played under the same time constraints and conditions as did we, is unacceptable. We don’t deserve to be in the playoffs with how we are responding to “pennant race pressure”.

"Inferstructure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" by Rhubarb, Aug. 19, 2010 5:59 PM

by winningugly on Aug 22, 2010 6:29 PM CDT reply actions  

Was gonna say exactly that. Man on 2B in the 8th, 9th, and 10th with NO runs

Is not the umpire’s fault. Yeah, FJW. But this is on the offense.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver

by Chiburb on Aug 22, 2010 6:35 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

the bullpen shouldve scored more runs

Thome Walks-Off Sox, Twists Knife, Continues To Make Sox Brass Look REALLY Stupid - White Sox Season Recap

by blackoutsox on Aug 22, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

"The colander should have scored more runs"

Fixed.

"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok

by DrEmilioLizardo on Aug 22, 2010 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

nothing is coming to mind

but yeah, win or lose, if you’re within 1 run of the royals, you’re not making the case you deserve to win anyway.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Aug 23, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least the Sox are teaching us something....

it is very hard to catch a first place team when you can only win 33% of your games. Detroit might make a run at 2nd place if this continues.

Mark Teahen peed in my canteen.

by SavePeavytill2010 on Aug 22, 2010 6:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Who the fuck cares about second place?

Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game of 2008.

by NorthSidePaulie on Aug 22, 2010 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

this feels a lot like april and may

shitting away close games we should win, and getting walked off every other day.

"I haven’t gotten to where I am by giving up easily." - Ari Gold

by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 22, 2010 6:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Nice to see ESPN's weekly highlights tonight

including 3 walk-offs of ours on the wrong side. Sweet. You don’t win pennants at that pace.

So now we are relegated to being akin to Haitians – praying for help.

"Inferstructure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" by Rhubarb, Aug. 19, 2010 5:59 PM

by winningugly on Aug 22, 2010 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

The bullpen is useless

There’s not one reliable arm left in there. When q and Rios don’t hit the offense isn’t worth shit either.

The only thing this team accomplished this year is that they saved KW and Ozzie their jobs.

"We are strong enough as we are and everything fits together in such a way that the only thing we were going to add would be something of an impact guy," KW

by ChicagoPete on Aug 22, 2010 7:38 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm not so sure about that.

Given that we still play the Twins, Yankees and Red Sox (and the Tigers, come to think of it), a third place finish is possible and then I think all bets are off.

Plus, if Ozzie keeps telling the fans to ‘fuck off and not show up,’ management might have no choice.

"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."

-RWShow

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 22, 2010 9:59 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

He is unpleased

When life gives ya lemons, shut up and eat your damn lemons.

by P-Townfan on Aug 22, 2010 8:02 PM CDT reply actions  

file under: fuck dan mcgrath

if you are in the mood to read a pretty bad article about the white sox (and cubs), read this.

this part in particular i was not impressed with:

But the 2010 season has been depressingly devoid of any uplift, of any events that portend a good future, of moments to warm us over the long, cold winter ahead.

i am a bark for buffeting. i am a hound for thornypaws. i am a doe for swiftness. i am a tree for wind-siege. i am a windmill. i am a hole in a wall.

by BuehrleMan on Aug 22, 2010 9:16 PM CDT reply actions  

June and July will keep me warm in January and February

"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok

by DrEmilioLizardo on Aug 22, 2010 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sapphire Gin has Hallucinagenic properties.

"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok

by DrEmilioLizardo on Aug 23, 2010 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think that's a myth, I've heard that before.

And drank plenty of it. No one I know of has hallucinated from it.

Time to call in the Q!avalry.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Aug 23, 2010 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've not experienced it, but I have seen it in action, more so with females.

Not Carlos Castaneda-type trips, but seeing stuff- halos, auras, weird light effects, etc.

"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok

by DrEmilioLizardo on Aug 23, 2010 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

There's no wormwood or anything that would make you hallucinate.

I think they have like 10 spices/roots in there, but I know that nothing in there would cause hallucination. It’s not like absinthe. Girls make shit up all the time about how drunk they are…haha.

Time to call in the Q!avalry.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Aug 23, 2010 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hate it because it's true

:-(

"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."

-RWShow

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 22, 2010 9:50 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

junior, you ain't even worth the skin off my knuckles

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Aug 22, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

sorry VAChisox

but i just can’t find the handles on that article. i wanted to get at least one more article out before tomorrow, but everything i tried just felt forced and i’d rather not put something i don’t feel even mildly confident about just to get an article out.

this is also me apologizing for not being on the site much the past couple weeks. from what i’ve heard over the past 5 days, free time is something i won’t be getting too much of anymore. i plan on being as active as possible, but i guess this is me saying i’m semi-retired for a little while.

the boston preview will still get done, and i can’t wait to see the sidetracks the comments section take.

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Aug 22, 2010 9:50 PM CDT reply actions  

i can't get enough of them vampire diaries

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Aug 22, 2010 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks man

was waitin to hear from your ass on the subject. good to know.

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Aug 22, 2010 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

No sweat, U-God.....

File it away for the future. At some point, I’d like to see us have a discussion about what makes a good broadcast team. What are the traits we like, don’t like, etc. I have some gut feelings on this (find Ed Farmer awkward, loved John Rooney, have a soft spot for the Hawk, despite him saying almost the same thing every game, despise Joe Buck and Tim McCarver) but I’d like a conversation that identifies something more precise than gut feelings. . . .

I understand about the lack of free time. . . .

by VAChisox on Aug 23, 2010 3:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe Hawk will be in a better mood next week

The annoying thing about Hawk is the fact that when a call does go the Sox way, he completely ignores it. He just refuses to acknowledge that umps sometimes make mistakes in the Sox favor. It’s like every bad call that goes in the Sox fav…or is their divine right, and every call that goes against the Sox is some sort of consiperacy against them. It’s a bunch of crap. Hawk is so full of himself — he thinks the Sox are important enough for Joe West to actually give a shit if the Sox win or lose. Is Joe West a good ump? Probably not. Is Joe West playing favorites? Absolutley not. Matt Thornton’s sore arm probably cost the Sox this series, not the damn umpires.

One day, the dream will come true.

by brianp88 on Aug 22, 2010 10:13 PM CDT reply actions  

I did not near much of the Hawk this series . . .

I listened to the radio broadcast yesterday and tuned into the Royals TV broadcast for most of Game 1 on Saturday (Big Hurt just hurt the ears too much) and was long asleep before Game 2 started. But I know exatcly what you mean and can only imagine what he said based on having listened to Hawk for a long time. And I agree, that the complaining about the umps gets old fast. That’s one of the risks you run when you put a die-hard homer into the broadcast booth. I love the fact that he loves the Sox, but a little restraint is sometimes in order.

by VAChisox on Aug 23, 2010 4:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Frank is a terrible broadcaster

Post game may be fine, but nothing else please

by 815Sox on Aug 23, 2010 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

How many games has he done? 4?

Trust me, you get better.

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Aug 23, 2010 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I didn't think he was bad.

Didn’t have much to say at times, but it was interesting to listen to.

Time to call in the Q!avalry.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Aug 23, 2010 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I did not listen enough to really determine. . .

But what I did hear (about 2 innings worth) was awkward, and I also heard him struggle to come up with things to say that would add any significant dimension to our understanding of the action on the diamond.

That said, I agree with 67WMAQ that one gets better at broadcasting. I think that broadcasting a game is very difficult work and something that takes a lot of study and practice. That’s why I don’t understand why stations bring out guys who just clearly lack the training necessary to deliver a good broadcast.

by VAChisox on Aug 23, 2010 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

For the casual fan.

Who do you think is going to draw more viewers? The best player in franchise history, or some random announcer who is doing AAA games?

For a guy doing his 5th game or whatever it was, I didn’t think it was a disaster.

by Grinder in Training on Aug 23, 2010 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

not always... look at D.J.

Interestingly, once had a conv. w/ veeck about stone when he was doing the cubs— he was disappointed… But I have to say stoney is a good now , but he needs a good partner for balance

by RoyEgan on Aug 23, 2010 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

DJ was screwed from the get-go

His start was baptism by fire, having to develop an identity by playing off a guy who dominates the conversation, and Farmer ain’t any easier than Hawk. They’re both ex-players who also take over the resident expert roles whenever they feel, so they don’t really need another guy. There are no natural entry/exit points in the call (which is why Farmer sounds so forced when he tries to bring DJ/Singleton into it).

When DJ has done national work for Fox alongside a traditional broadcaster, he’s good. Nothing spectacular, but gets the job done.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Aug 23, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think DJ

gets a rough ride from a lot of people, I’m glad there are others who (kind of) like him. Frank will get better, it’s not fair to totally dismiss him after only 4 games or whatever. Without even taking into account doing only 4 games with Hawk while he’s got a thing over Joe West.

"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."

-RWShow

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 23, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've come to enjoy the back and forth between DJ and Farmio.

Especially when DJ has been smokin’ the marijuana before hand.

WTGD throws himself on the gook grenade and utters his last phrase.
by Rhubarb on Aug 19, 2010 5:42 PM CDT

by South Side Expat on Aug 23, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't mind DJ either

His goofiness and levity makes what would otherwise be pretty cheerless tolerable. Being up against the Farmer Angry Curmudgeon persona can’t be easy.

Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game of 2008.

by NorthSidePaulie on Aug 23, 2010 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh god, the Orioles are up next

at least they can’t walk us off in our own park!!

signature

by billyok on Aug 22, 2010 10:22 PM CDT reply actions  

Or CAN THEY?

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Aug 22, 2010 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Buck Showalter. Is there anything he can't do?

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Aug 22, 2010 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

bazing

"Hur coomes der trayne!"

by e-gus on Aug 22, 2010 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha niceee

Hope he’s not writing the 2011 White Sox Anal too. -Sox Machine

by Jack M on Aug 23, 2010 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

messr west obviously eats very well

does anyone ever wonder why?

that said; sox on the field players don’t have a “killer instinct”.. and it is showing.

by explodingpinwheelsforfunandprofit on Aug 23, 2010 3:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Those small children don't just eat themselves.

WTGD throws himself on the gook grenade and utters his last phrase.
by Rhubarb on Aug 19, 2010 5:42 PM CDT

by South Side Expat on Aug 23, 2010 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Betemit gets a shout out on Fangraphs!
Wilson Betemit, Royals (Owned in 2% of Yahoo Leagues)

It has been an awfully long time since Betemit signed (illegally) with the Atlanta Braves as a 14-year-old Dominican shortstop in 1996. He was once Atlanta’s organizational golden child, ranking as eighth-best prospect in the game (according to Baseball America) prior to 2002. Betemit has since donned Dodger blue and pinstripes of both the Bronx and South Side variety. Now a 28-year-old with dubious defensive qualifications, the switch-hitter is keeping third base warm for Mike Moustakas following the Alberto Callaspo trade.

In 175 plate appearances for K.C., Betemit has a .342/.423/.559 triple-slash and a .424 wOBA. He’s not gonna keep a .421 BABIP, but it’s not unreasonable to expect him to hit at a level that’s slightly above the big league average. In 1,450 career PA, Betemit has batted .268/.336/.447, which translates to a .336 wOBA and a 106 wRC+. He’ll occasionally take a seat against left-handed pitching, and his D (-13 UZR/150 in 1,885 innings at 3B) won’t endear him to Ned Yost. But ZiPS projects Betemit for a moderately useful .266/.329/.422 for the rest of the season.

Hope he’s not writing the 2011 White Sox Anal too. -Sox Machine

by Jack M on Aug 23, 2010 9:09 AM CDT reply actions  

2 percent hahahaha

Thome Walks-Off Sox, Twists Knife, Continues To Make Sox Brass Look REALLY Stupid - White Sox Season Recap

by blackoutsox on Aug 23, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sounds like a better DH than Kotsay

Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game of 2008.

by NorthSidePaulie on Aug 23, 2010 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who wanted to see the White Sox financials?

This could be your lucky day:

http://deadspin.com/5615096/mlb-confidential-the-financial-documents-baseball-doesnt-want-you-to-see-part-1

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Aug 23, 2010 9:10 AM CDT reply actions  

Angels reported 12M in '09 for the playoffs

having made it to the ALCS and 4M for ‘08 when they didn’t get out of the division series. The Rays made almost 18M in ‘08 for making the WS. So maybe a 5/10/15/20 rule depending on how far you get? And since it’s pretty much random how far you go, the expected payoff for making the playoffs would be

5 + .5*10 + .25*15 + 20/8 = 11.25MM

Maybe round that up to 15MM for the attendance boost? I’m not really sure what the scale of the benefit there is. None of that makes the EJax deal (or an Adam Dunn deal, for that matter) make any more sense.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Aug 23, 2010 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

a deep reserve fund?

“We don’t have the money…..except when we do.”

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Aug 23, 2010 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your sweet voice will be filling my car during my afternoon commute,

all velvety, and soothing, and lawyery, and digital downloady.

"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote

by SkanchoDanza on Aug 23, 2010 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

You know it's a good week

When a lot of your answers start with, “Ehhheughehghhgeghheghhh…”

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Aug 23, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

That is fantastic.

"Inferstructure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" by Rhubarb, Aug. 19, 2010 5:59 PM

by winningugly on Aug 23, 2010 2:05 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

.

Time to call in the Q!avalry.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Aug 23, 2010 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Johnny Damon claimed by unknown team

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Aug 23, 2010 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

WAIVERS?

Thome Walks-Off Sox, Twists Knife, Continues To Make Sox Brass Look REALLY Stupid - White Sox Season Recap

by blackoutsox on Aug 23, 2010 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

WAFERS?

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Aug 23, 2010 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

....and he's not that into his old team

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Aug 23, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reasons why:

1. Gold-digging whore of a wifeslut.
2. A half decade of illwill perpetrated on his being by Red Sox Nation.

by Rhubarb on Aug 23, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

also from MLBTR, interesting:
A no-trade clause does not necessarily give a player the right to prevent his team from handing him over on waivers, according to an MLB Players Association official who spoke to MLBTR this afternoon. In many cases, a player has a non-assignment clause that would prevent trades and waiver claims. However, not all players with no-trade clauses can prevent their teams from handing them over on waivers.

In other words, Damon’s ability to prevent the Tigers from handing him to the Red Sox depends on the wording in his contract.

Hope he’s not writing the 2011 White Sox Anal too. -Sox Machine

by Jack M on Aug 23, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

big caveman rec...

"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok

by DrEmilioLizardo on Aug 23, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

When this team is good - they're great. When they're bad...they're bad.

I still predict they make things interesting yet fall short.

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Aug 23, 2010 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice link to soxmachine if you check out the top five on sbnchicago today

humorously, they describe jim as a local blogger.

and shockingly, lord douchington does not like street performers

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Aug 23, 2010 1:01 PM CDT reply actions  

He's nothing if not thorough.

EVERYBODY PICK US FOR 3RD OR 4TH SO I DINK WE DOIN POOTY GOO
Sox Machine

by Sox Machine on Aug 23, 2010 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

speaking of the Wiz: (SBNCHI)

Top Contributors
To this White Sox page

 The Cheat (1061)
 larry (323)
 Al Yellon (218)
 The Wizard (174)
 U-God (103)

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver

by Chiburb on Aug 23, 2010 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

thats just wrong

Thome Walks-Off Sox, Twists Knife, Continues To Make Sox Brass Look REALLY Stupid - White Sox Season Recap

by blackoutsox on Aug 23, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

hahaha billyok

Thome Walks-Off Sox, Twists Knife, Continues To Make Sox Brass Look REALLY Stupid - White Sox Season Recap

by blackoutsox on Aug 23, 2010 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

What an insufferable turd burglar.

DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 23, 2010 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm enjoying that SBNC is becoming an SSS branchoff

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Aug 23, 2010 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

when did lewis black's lesbian daughter start writing?

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Aug 23, 2010 9:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Stop Boys Now Cease?

My brain is wired differently this season.

"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose

by Teahenny Penny on Aug 23, 2010 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I dig how the SSS gang is dominating the comments.

Fucking Al.

"Inferstructure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" by Rhubarb, Aug. 19, 2010 5:59 PM

by winningugly on Aug 23, 2010 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Drink anyway?

"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose

by Teahenny Penny on Aug 23, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Drink because!

WTGD throws himself on the gook grenade and utters his last phrase.
by Rhubarb on Aug 19, 2010 5:42 PM CDT

by South Side Expat on Aug 23, 2010 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Betty is such a b

Hope he’s not writing the 2011 White Sox Anal too. -Sox Machine

by Jack M on Aug 23, 2010 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like them better as well.

We only respectable members of the blog to any kind of standard. - Grinder In Training

by omnipotent grab on Aug 23, 2010 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only because she's hot.

"Inferstructure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" by Rhubarb, Aug. 19, 2010 5:59 PM

by winningugly on Aug 23, 2010 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whats wrong with that?

We only respectable members of the blog to any kind of standard. - Grinder In Training

by omnipotent grab on Aug 23, 2010 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

i officially give in

she’s really awful to her children. mostly because she’s a child herself, per the episode.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Aug 24, 2010 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ozzie Guillen=Betty Draper.

DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 23, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I blame myself...long night post postponed game leading into a longer night

if it werent for doing duck snorts with jeff cox off of some cougar’s saggy pancake of a chest, while cox kept bumming a light to smoke her misty light menthol 100’s at 2:30 a.m while ozzie and company sat around drinking jeremiah weeds and waters with andrew jones trying to rouse some more playing time out of ozzie, then the outcome may have been different. but alas, another long night after the rain out left the head hurting worst then the first night and more hearts broken then a fat chick on valentines day.

"The trouble with baseball is that the player who knows how to bat and field the best is sitting in the bleachers" or on sss!?!

by Grinder Rule #42 on Aug 23, 2010 2:33 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

One Run Games

One run games are, historically, not a good predictor of a team’s winning or losing. When its a one run game its down to essentially a flip of a coin. Good teams win games by large margins, bad teams lose games by large margins. The close games, well that’s a coin flip. And right now the coin flip has gone badly against the sox.

by frustratedfan on Aug 23, 2010 2:47 PM CDT reply actions  

You mean the coin is landing 'other side' for them in 1 run games?

Or are you saying something else?

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver

by Chiburb on Aug 23, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm saying a loss is a loss.

1 run or 6, we’re still not very close to 1st place.

Time to call in the Q!avalry.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Aug 23, 2010 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

no doubt...

i would be more apt to agree if there hadnt been so many close games or as you put it, one run games as of late…

"The trouble with baseball is that the player who knows how to bat and field the best is sitting in the bleachers" or on sss!?!

by Grinder Rule #42 on Aug 23, 2010 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

your twisted poetry delights me

Thome Walks-Off Sox, Twists Knife, Continues To Make Sox Brass Look REALLY Stupid - White Sox Season Recap

by blackoutsox on Aug 23, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

As a user of forest preserve toilets, I am deeply offended.

"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose

by Teahenny Penny on Aug 23, 2010 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which, conversely...means nothing.

"Bee curful, dont wannur get sucked under der wheels like Mildreder's brudder ehr?"

by homesickalien on Aug 23, 2010 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

As close to the toilet as possible.

A man’s gotta shower somewhere.

"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose

by Teahenny Penny on Aug 23, 2010 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll always love Der Twain.

This, however, is beneath you.

"Inferstructure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" by Rhubarb, Aug. 19, 2010 5:59 PM

by winningugly on Aug 23, 2010 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is a gloriously grotesque comment

which I approve of.

"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112

by RWShow on Aug 23, 2010 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

You are rapidly becoming our Bill Hicks. Our Lenny Bruce. Our Sam Kinison.

please don’t go the tortured genius route and check out before your time.

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Aug 23, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

But we also wouldn't want him to go the Bob Hope/Jack Benny/WU route

and stick around well past his prime.

"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112

by RWShow on Aug 23, 2010 8:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

See: John and Jim Belushi

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Aug 23, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Least I had a prime.

You are still working on it.

"Inferstructure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" by Rhubarb, Aug. 19, 2010 5:59 PM

by winningugly on Aug 24, 2010 8:31 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

There is only one Prime, and his name is not WU

"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok

by DrEmilioLizardo on Aug 24, 2010 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Indeed.

"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112

by RWShow on Aug 24, 2010 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oney sounds like the conduit into Ozzie's brain

If that’s the case – then we finally found a DH he likes

For some reason ill take manny that just means full time dh. Sorry druw and kotsay

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Aug 23, 2010 4:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Rates of rectal cancer in people younger than 40, although low, have been rising steadily for the last 20 years for reasons that are mystifying scientists, researchers said Sunday.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/la-sci-rectal-cancer-20100823,0,836950.story

mystifying? not to SSS posters. butt cancer is highloy correlated with three activities: bike riding, living in your mom’s basement and using anal dildos while watching german scat porn.

by larry on Aug 23, 2010 6:46 PM CDT reply actions  

People should really take us more seriously over here.

"Bee curful, dont wannur get sucked under der wheels like Mildreder's brudder ehr?"

by homesickalien on Aug 23, 2010 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mom's address...

plzkthx!

"Bee curful, dont wannur get sucked under der wheels like Mildreder's brudder ehr?"

by homesickalien on Aug 23, 2010 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

He sets it up,

she knocks it down.

"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112

by RWShow on Aug 23, 2010 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bidet.

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Aug 23, 2010 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

what kind of wannabe state street is that

do you have a magnificent quarter mile as well? Is there a Kohl’s and a Venture on it? FE,IL

signature

by billyok on Aug 23, 2010 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

FE?

"Inferstructure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" by Rhubarb, Aug. 19, 2010 5:59 PM

by winningugly on Aug 23, 2010 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Elgin, IL?

"Bee curful, dont wannur get sucked under der wheels like Mildreder's brudder ehr?"

by homesickalien on Aug 23, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fuck that place just for producing my last ex.

WTGD throws himself on the gook grenade and utters his last phrase.
by Rhubarb on Aug 19, 2010 5:42 PM CDT

by South Side Expat on Aug 23, 2010 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah, NOW I see.

"Inferstructure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" by Rhubarb, Aug. 19, 2010 5:59 PM

by winningugly on Aug 25, 2010 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

the reviews for the place

are glorious:

http://bit.ly/a7Lice

“Suggested I get a dancing workout video to solve my depression problems.”

by craigws on Aug 23, 2010 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thats a nice map.

The bridge over the river for the failed schizo capitalists to end it all AND the Little League for the crazed escaped pederasts.

by Rhubarb on Aug 23, 2010 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

the capitalists

can have one last go at the riverboat casino, just a little down the way.
i was referring to the reviews that people actually left for the mental health center:

“Thank you for excellent care of my child‎‎.

HIs symptoms were explained to me by the doctor and follow-up care was obtaianed for him.‎"

by craigws on Aug 23, 2010 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dispatches from the bowling alley

Via Merkin, Kenny talked to reporters at the Sox bowling event at Lucky Strike downtown

Putz: Sore knee, nothing more

Thorndog: sore forearm, some fluid, should be OK in a couple of days.

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Aug 23, 2010 8:21 PM CDT reply actions  

Manny: Your honest assessment

1- pipe dream? What are the odds of him making it past the NL and to the White Sox?

2- impact. Let’s say the Sox are able to make a trade. Is it too late?

It would certainly give me a reason to watch. A motivated Manny would be a nice thing to have in the month of September.

What say you?

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Aug 23, 2010 8:26 PM CDT reply actions  

I think it's just too late,

this team has got to be motivation ally dead after this killer series with the Royals.

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Aug 23, 2010 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

He has a no trade clause btw,

and he has been previously quoted as saying he’d only waive it for the ChiSox…but that was 3 weeks ago when we were 2 games up…depressing thought.

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Aug 23, 2010 8:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Red Sox are 6.5 out in the AL East and 5.5 out of the WC.

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Aug 23, 2010 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you were forced to bet your life on the Red Sox or us making the playoffs, who would you bet?

"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112

by RWShow on Aug 23, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

And please - I hate to shit on optimism, but god damn do I not believe in the White Sox.

"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112

by RWShow on Aug 23, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

RedSox,

because they have a reliable bullpen

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Aug 23, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Given all of the variables at work - I'm gonna say us. Even after the past two weeks.

Red Sox are banged up and have two very good teams in front of them. Two teams that would probably send Teh Twain back to the station in three games.

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Aug 23, 2010 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Yankees would feast on Teh Twain, agreed.

I don’t think the Rays are that much better though.

"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112

by RWShow on Aug 23, 2010 8:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't take that bet

Because the two teams in front of them are healthy(ier) and better at baseball. But I’ve been drunk a lot.

"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."

-RWShow

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 23, 2010 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Manny himself can't make

Jenks/Thorton/Putz fully healthy and less likely to make bad pitches though….it has to be a combination of factors…

"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."

-RWShow

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 23, 2010 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

link

what happens to SSS during the offseason?

by Jackkoho on Aug 23, 2010 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, but it's Dick Harden, and he's already up to 87 pitches, 'cause that's how he rolls.

"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112

by RWShow on Aug 23, 2010 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

it still bodes well

what happens to SSS during the offseason?

by Jackkoho on Aug 23, 2010 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hey, a man can hope.

I celebrate all Twins failures.

"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112

by RWShow on Aug 23, 2010 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thank you.

I turn on now to relish, bask and live vicariously through the Ranger’s glory. This thing isn’t over yet you skeptical scooters.

by Rhubarb on Aug 23, 2010 9:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

losing 10 of 16 this late in the season doesnt do anything for ya eh?

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Aug 23, 2010 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll admit...I have my anxieties and misgivings...as much as next man

But the jury ain’t out yet folks…In this instance I am a mathematical elimination type guy not a bury my head in the sand and sulk fuck. I choose to believe in the possibility of impossibility.

by Rhubarb on Aug 23, 2010 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're welcome

Can I call you names when they are 3 games out with 5 left?

by Rhubarb on Aug 23, 2010 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

No.

As you know I have a penchant for name-calling. That prediction you just made up there is going in my signature. I have never had a signature…

by Rhubarb on Aug 23, 2010 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

that prediction was more of a hypothetical...just to poke a little fun at your optimism.

but the Sox will win 85 or 86 games this year and finish like they did in 2003. The Twins are not much better, but all they have to do is win half their games and they are in.

Mark Teahen peed in my canteen.

by SavePeavytill2010 on Aug 23, 2010 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hell, at the All Star break

all we had to do was go .500 to win 92 games. We couldn’t even do that.

"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."

-RWShow

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 23, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

did you believe at the all star break that the sox were as good

as you thought they were? I know I did, but I was fooled. The Sox are who we thought they were!

Mark Teahen peed in my canteen.

by SavePeavytill2010 on Aug 23, 2010 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did I think they were

25-5 good? Hell no. Did I think they were as bad as they’d been before that? Hell no. I though .500 was a realistic goal, given the schedule.

"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."

-RWShow

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 23, 2010 9:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cannot play with 'em!

Cannot win with ’em!

Cannot coach with ’em!

Can’t do it!!!

"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."

-RWShow

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 23, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Too late I've immortalized your astute prediction in my signature.

Quit bumming my fry dude…

jury is out..but I appreciate your willingness to wait until the Sox are 7 games out with 6 left to play.
by SavePeavytill2010 on Aug 23, 2010 9:15 PM CDT

by Rhubarb on Aug 23, 2010 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

thanks...your optimism is refreshing

my optimism ran out after 5 straight series loses

Mark Teahen peed in my canteen.

by SavePeavytill2010 on Aug 23, 2010 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

McNulty and the boys are coming into town...and I expect us to take care of business

Texas wants home field and will play the Lutherans tough.

jury is out..but I appreciate your willingness to wait until the Sox are 7 games out with 6 left to play.
by SavePeavytill2010 on Aug 23, 2010 9:15 PM CDT

by Rhubarb on Aug 23, 2010 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

Are the Twins a better team? Yes.

Did the Sox just lose an assload of games? Yes.

Is it within the realm of possibility for the Sox to close the gap? Yes.

I was around in 2007. That was bad. This is not.

Save the sulking for the offseason.

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Aug 23, 2010 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

disagree,

I’d take the Sox roster over the Twins any day of the week, but these past two weeks have really screwed us over

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Aug 23, 2010 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Which part of the roster though?

There’s no way you can honestly say you’d take Pierre/Vizquel/Rios/Konerko/Q!/AJ/Teahen/Becks/Ramirez over Span/Hudson/Mauer/Morneau/Kubel/Young/Valencia

"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."

-RWShow

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 23, 2010 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Sox pitching staff (on paper) is better than theirs and by a greater margin than their offense is better than the Sox's

Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''

by OznCoop on Aug 23, 2010 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

So you're convincing yourself?

jury is out..but I appreciate your willingness to wait until the Sox are 7 games out with 6 left to play.
by SavePeavytill2010 on Aug 23, 2010 9:15 PM CDT

by Rhubarb on Aug 23, 2010 9:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd really only give you the

starters on paper. I’m not trying to pick a fight, but bullpens from year to year for every club are total crap shoots.

"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."

-RWShow

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 23, 2010 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ding-Dong!

I already have your address

jury is out..but I appreciate your willingness to wait until the Sox are 7 games out with 6 left to play.
by SavePeavytill2010 on Aug 23, 2010 9:15 PM CDT

by Rhubarb on Aug 23, 2010 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Be careful.

I live in a “wild hood.”

"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."

-RWShow

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 23, 2010 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wrigleyville?

jury is out..but I appreciate your willingness to wait until the Sox are 7 games out with 6 left to play.
by SavePeavytill2010 on Aug 23, 2010 9:15 PM CDT

by Rhubarb on Aug 23, 2010 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha! I wish

Can’t afford it. I’m off the purple line.

"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."

-RWShow

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 23, 2010 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Howard stop?

WTGD throws himself on the gook grenade and utters his last phrase.
by Rhubarb on Aug 19, 2010 5:42 PM CDT

by South Side Expat on Aug 23, 2010 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Keep going north

But this is getting a bit intimate, no?

"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."

-RWShow

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 23, 2010 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, but other than that, I don't think I'd call anyplace on the purple line a "wild hood"

WTGD throws himself on the gook grenade and utters his last phrase.
by Rhubarb on Aug 19, 2010 5:42 PM CDT

by South Side Expat on Aug 23, 2010 9:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would suggest

living on Church and Dodge Ave in Evanston.

"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."

-RWShow

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 23, 2010 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions