Manny Ramirez Officially a White Sox
No prospect(s) sent to the Dodgers, just a straight waiver claim in which the White Sox assume Ramirez' remaining salary of approximately $4 million (most of which is deferred).
Ramirez will not make it to Cleveland in time to be in uniform tonight.
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Rec'd x 100
Can’t there please please be a version of Manny slaying Nick Punto?
P.S. Mrs. Kotsay’s rear assets also rec’d x 100.
"He will play hard for Ozzie. He will give it everything he's got." - Hawk Harrelson on Manny's work ethic should he come to the Sox
I love it.
A motivated Manny is a mean mother-mercenary.
"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."
-RWShow
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 30, 2010 1:49 PM CDT reply actions
4 months too late
But still fun to watch Manny hit every day at least.
by Grinder in Training on Aug 30, 2010 1:52 PM CDT reply actions
can't make it to cleveland in time?
DFA the bum
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
He has cramps.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
Lazy Latino.
He got an early exit yesterday. No reason not to take that red-eye!
"Inferstructure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" by Rhubarb, Aug. 19, 2010 5:59 PM
Szymborski gives the Sox an A- on this deal (insider only)
http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insider/news/story?id=5511774
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
How many wins is an A- from Szumborski worth?
by Grinder in Training on Aug 30, 2010 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
half a loss from the pure grindy-ness of Kotsay/Jones, plus…..my head hurts. Never mind.
"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."
-RWShow
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 30, 2010 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions
doesn't specify
just says he alone is not enough to overcome 4.5 games, obviously.
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
That’s what I get the upgrade as, too.
Obviously, the Twins are still the favorite, but there aren’t many 1-win upgrades for a month that a team can get from a single player at this point.
The teaser’s a bit on the provocative side. Monte Carlo-ing it out, I get a 6 win/162 game improvement enough to improve the White Sox odds from about 8% to about 15% at this point.
by D.Szymborski on Aug 30, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I can hardly complain given that BTF’s inside jokes have their own wiki just so half the conversations aren’t completely confusing.
by D.Szymborski on Aug 30, 2010 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm getting 7 to 9 runs....
Pretty decent upgrade
by Andronicus on Aug 30, 2010 2:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
if you want to be able to calculate this yourself, it's
(Manny’s wOBA – Kotsay’s)/1.15*expected PAs
the best place to go for wOBA projections is fangraphs, since they have Rest Of Season ZiPS projections that auto-update given the current season’s data. i’ll be generous to Kotsay and use a .320 wOBA. Manny’s projected for ~.400. 30 games left times 4 PAs per game is 120 PA.
plug it all in and you get about 8 runs.
Fireworks: Bang?
If he uses them in the right situations, that's 8 wins!
I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok
Is dividing by 1.15 just accounting for the adjustment that wOBA makes to normalize to OBP terms?
(that reads awkwardly, but I think you get what I’m asking.)
cool.
ps, dumb question, but what does the money being deferred mean?
i’m gone... bye bitches. - wtgtd
He won't
be getting the $4 mill all at once. He’ll get some (about a mill) this year and some next year too.
"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."
-RWShow
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 30, 2010 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
See Japan, Inc.
“Investment” means “risk-free rate of return”.
"Inferstructure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" by Rhubarb, Aug. 19, 2010 5:59 PM
are you talking to me?
/runs away
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
It basically means they're going to use the money to make animal coats.
Time to call in the Q!avalry.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Aug 30, 2010 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Man I thought this was a green for sure.
Tough crowd.
Time to call in the Q!avalry.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Aug 30, 2010 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Should have given it some time.
And it was in the same thread as TheCip’s masterpiece, that doesn’t help.
by Grinder in Training on Aug 30, 2010 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm just too impatient.
Time to call in the Q!avalry.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Aug 30, 2010 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions
well, that tears it.
i’m going to need to take some time off. talk at y’all later.
buehrleman out.
i am a bark for buffeting. i am a hound for thornypaws. i am a doe for swiftness. i am a tree for wind-siege. i am a windmill. i am a hole in a wall.
stop being a bitch
manny is the dude!
i swear to god i had a dream last night that manny was traded to the sox
i woke up thinking it was true. so i had to check the internet, this could be another one of my premonitions so sit tight ;D
by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 19, 2010 5:14 PM CDT
by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 30, 2010 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions
I hear you.
Don’t fight the rape of your morals. You just might enjoy the championship banner.
"Inferstructure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" by Rhubarb, Aug. 19, 2010 5:59 PM
if rape is inevitable...
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
Manny
Great news!! Just what this lineup needed. Just read the Mark Gonzales column abou this move and he said Manny would hit 3rd. I think it makes Konerko & Q even more dangerous.
We must endure another Kotsay game. This is OK with me.
Larry, will he be available to pinch hit or is it out of the question he plays at all tonight?
When the going gets tough, the tough get optimistic
That bench is gonna get mighty cold then
Without his butt to warm it.
When life gives ya lemons, shut up and eat your damn lemons.
In reality, of course (as you know) he hits 3rd
In Ozzie’s reality?!? 2nd or 5th?
When the going gets tough, the tough get optimistic
i didn't realize my statement was ambigous.
he’s not going to play tonight. they’re not going to want to make a roster move unless they have to because the ideal move would probably be a blowout (hopefully in favor of white sox) where lucas harrell pitches 3+ innings and they can send him down tomorrow.
Yes, I read the statement incorrectly
In my affected and perverse brain I read “starting lineup” instead of “uniform”
When the going gets tough, the tough get optimistic
Tonight will be Kotsay's 4HR, 11RBI opus,
also, he gets walked because the Indians don’t want to give up the first 5 HR game in MLB history, so he just steals 2nd, 3rd and home.
And he makes a real good play at 1b. Heard it here first.
by TasteeFreeze on Aug 30, 2010 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Fine by me.
We can shoot him tomorrow.
"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112
why's manny playing short?
Fireworks: Bang?
by colintj on Aug 30, 2010 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Nice
"Because he's a (bleeping, bleep), that's what he is," Guillen said at the time of West (after Buehrle and Guillen ejected because of the balks) FUCK YOU JOE WEST
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by chisoxfan1473 on Aug 30, 2010 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
we're just gonna have to find a way to beat cleveland without manny
sadly, i am not being sarcastic
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They are AL Central juggernauts.
Seriously. This series could be very disastrous.
Time to call in the Q!avalry.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Aug 30, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
outside of a fat tail, this thing was done when Thome hit that bomb
but we’re gonna watch anyway. and watching Manny hit is a pleasure.
Fireworks: Bang?
I thought it was done in
Baltimore. But hey, the Twins are due for some kind of correction, and maybe we can catch lightening in a bottle (again).
"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."
-RWShow
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Aug 30, 2010 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions
it's been done a lot longer than that.
but manny will certainly be amusing. should also be amusing to see how he fits in with this organization.
obviously not very well
if he cant make it to cleveland tonight…but hey why have pride in something you cant control, like the team you play for
"Statistics are about as interesting as first base coaches" Jim Bouton
by Grinder Rule #42 on Aug 30, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Seriously? It's simple logic, really:
A. Manny will not be in the White Sox lineup tonight.
B. Everyone who will not be in the White Sox lineup tonight has no pride.
C. Manny has no pride.
Q.E.D.
by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 30, 2010 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
That reason, and that reason alone.
by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 30, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
that and the fact you billed somebody for this comment.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Aug 30, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
You knew they were coming, it was just a matter of when.
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
death also is inevitable
but i will fight it until i’m too bored to care anymore
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by billyok on Aug 30, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
july? you mean we started the season without a DH?
oh shit…
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
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If anything it makes things more interesting
While I attempt to be optimistic, realistically it will be tough to overtake Twain. This certainy makes it interesting. My father is calling his guy to get a couple of games for the family to watch Manny in a Sox uni, this will be fun.
When the going gets tough, the tough get optimistic
In the words of another of my tainted heroes: Love is too weak a word for what I feel for this move -- I lurve it, you know, I loave it, I loff it (two F's).
Manny is a hitting savant. There is literally no other player that I can think of (other than those who are ridiculously unavailable) that I would rather have gotten at this point.
I could be completely wrong, but I think this has an excellent chance of working well. Very well. Like seriously, incredibly well.
by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 30, 2010 3:10 PM CDT reply actions
Oh, I can see he and Ozzie getting along just famously.
And if the “clique” (PK, AJ, et. al) didn’t enjoy FNS’ theatrics or OrCa’s self-absorption Manny should be a real treat for them.
Let the Games begin. Ticket sales will increase, that’s for sure.
"Inferstructure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" by Rhubarb, Aug. 19, 2010 5:59 PM
For a limited time only!
Douchey PED cloaking idiot hitting savant on display at Brookfield, er Museum of Sci, er U.S. Comiscular
When the going gets tough, the tough get optimistic
Actually, I think that part of it may work out particularly well.
Manny is not a self-promoting, attention-whore asshole like Swisher. He’s a genius. Geniuses are … well, weird.
I have a feeling Ozzie is smart enough to know (and the rest of the team is mature enough to realize) that it’s ok to treat geniuses differently than regular people because they are weird. If anything, Ozzie is likely to take the pressure off by deflecting some attention away from Manny.
by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 30, 2010 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
he also hits the ball well.
which means you can call the media a bunch of pricks to his face and joe cowley will eat it up.
hasn't pretty much all of that centered around Cowley?
i suppose it’s pretty likely that Cowley has more than one in on the team, but couldn’t it be Ozzie’s doing all the way?
Fireworks: Bang?
no prospects
cause they already got pods
"Statistics are about as interesting as first base coaches" Jim Bouton
by Grinder Rule #42 on Aug 30, 2010 3:10 PM CDT reply actions
pods makes things happen!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
White Sox news, Minor Leagues updates and more
Anyone check out Manny's career stats at USCF?
OPS of 1.049. Pretty nasty anyway you dry to slice it.
"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10
Do you have to dry it in order to slice it?
Time to call in the Q!avalry.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Aug 30, 2010 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah in the oven at low
"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10
i view this as a nice reverse thome trade from last fall
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
The New Ramirez
Not like the jug-eared giant of Twinkie fame,
With conquering pleasantries astride from land to land;
Here at our black and white, sunset gates shall stand
A mighty Manny with a bat, whose swing
Is the imprisoned lightning, and his name
Father of DHydra.. From his bat-wielding hand
Glows world-wide welcome; his half-stoned eyes command
The green-grassed temple that twin banners will frame.
“Keep, ancient domes, your piranha’d pomp!” cries he
With silent lips. “Give me your DL’d, your poor hitters,
Your huddled fans yearning to breathe victory,
The wretched refuse of your "team" at Char-lotte.
Send these, the listless, tempest-tost to me,
I lift my bat beside the golden plate!”
"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose
by Uribe Down on Aug 30, 2010 3:46 PM CDT reply actions 10 recs
You are from another planet.
But I have to rec this. You are quite the lyricist.
BTW, Manny is not the only one moving teams today. Yours truly, at your service.
"Inferstructure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" by Rhubarb, Aug. 19, 2010 5:59 PM
Finally out of the closet?
"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose
by Uribe Down on Aug 30, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Oh, and it's only an adaptation of something you country-lovin' fucks should recognize, inside the Statue of Liberty.
"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose
I knew that.
I didn’t want to rain on Rhoobie. He is stuck at 50 rec’s on his Twain Tome. Must be getting depressed.
"Inferstructure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" by Rhubarb, Aug. 19, 2010 5:59 PM
Not sure if this is a redux of a famous epic from antiquity
regardless I shall rec’.
When the going gets tough, the tough get optimistic
and allow me to make our new collosus the appropriate color
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
Could you please make this into an Inferno-type epic poem
I would need atleast another couple hundred pages to be sufficiently satiated.
When the going gets tough, the tough get optimistic
I removed my hat while reading this.
Also, my pants.
by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 30, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
How can you remove what was never moved?
"Inferstructure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" by Rhubarb, Aug. 19, 2010 5:59 PM
Wait, if those weren't my pants I removed ...
Uh oh.
by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 30, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
"We got a bleeder!!"
"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112
Wow. Wikipedia people are fast.
Already says he’s a player for the Sox, and has a stub on it on his season bio.
Time to call in the Q!avalry.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Aug 30, 2010 4:13 PM CDT reply actions
tweets
cst_sox
Sox will pay Manny until 2013 – KW – "If we’re all wearing rings from 2010, there won’t be much complaining.
Manny will wear No. 99 – so says a clubhouse birdie.
Kotsay on losing playing time – "This game is not about feelings.’’ Kotsay is all for Manny.
"The game's out there and it's play or get played..."
by Air Raid Siren Stan on Aug 30, 2010 4:17 PM CDT reply actions
and most important of all........
As far as the dreads, KW said he talked to a coach on the staff and "from my understanding [Manny] will make an adjustment.
"The game's out there and it's play or get played..."
by Air Raid Siren Stan on Aug 30, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I find that hard to believe.
Time to call in the Q!avalry.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Aug 30, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions
joewho, meet Manny Ramirez.
Manny, meet joewho. Evidently he isn’t familiar with you.
Time to call in the Q!avalry.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Aug 30, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm pretty sure he gets his money whether he cuts his hair or not.
I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok
i think he's talking about a contract
for next season.
Doesn’t seem very moral to me. Might as well take Satan’s autograph while you’re at it. - N.C.
I was referring to his next contract
I imagine his potential market (and therefore his next contract) shrinks if he is unwilling to play by the team’s rules
you mean like the hit he took on his dodger contract for not playing nice in boston?
I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok
now manny might not play tuesday, either.
http://twitter.com/MDGonzales/status/22556505654
don’t want to make a roster move, i guess.
I hope that's the reason.
Though each day that passes…
"Inferstructure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" by Rhubarb, Aug. 19, 2010 5:59 PM
relax, pre-september games don't count!
The greatest trick the White Sox ever pulled was convincing their fan base that "Ozzieball" ever existed.
White Sox news, Minor Leagues updates and more
For those of us with twitterblocks,
What’s it say?
Time to call in the Q!avalry.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Aug 30, 2010 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions
latest
If Manny Ramirez plays tomorrow, he’s going to hit fifth and DH, according to Ozzie Guillen. #whitesox
"The game's out there and it's play or get played..."
by Air Raid Siren Stan on Aug 30, 2010 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Is this a test?
Scotty, the pressure’s on.
"Inferstructure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" by Rhubarb, Aug. 19, 2010 5:59 PM
Ummm....errrr.
It says…
Plane accident? Sick grandmother? Can’t make up a fake injury for one of our benchwarmers?
Time to call in the Q!avalry.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Aug 30, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions
A bunch of garbled, misspelled garbage. You know, Twitter!
Essentially, will Manny be able to sleep on the plane during his red-eye flight?
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
that doesnt make any sense
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
position previously filled
Ozzie on Manny: “He will help. But he’s not going to be the savior.” #whitesox
"The game's out there and it's play or get played..."
by Air Raid Siren Stan on Aug 30, 2010 4:23 PM CDT reply actions
Now children
Please take a moment to write a thank-you note to your benevolent Uncle Jerry for your new toy. (Deferred) money doesn’t grow on trees, you know.
overheard at the game yesterday:
“who is this 39 guy for the Yankees?”
“uh, what? thats Kerry Wood!”
"Hur coomes der trayne!"
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