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I’d say that Jackson’s slider has to show more bite, and he needs to hit the mitt and miss better his next time out, but after looking through the rest of the schedule, I don’t think that’s necessary. Here’s what he has to contend with if everybody stays on schedule (league rank in OPS):

* Aug. 9: Baltimore (13th)
* Aug. 14: Detroit (6th)
* Aug. 20: Kansas City (9th)
* Aug. 26: Baltimore (13th)
* Aug. 31: Cleveland (12th)
* Sept. 6: Detroit (6th)
* Sept. 11: Kansas City (9th)
* Sept. 17: Detroit (6th)
* Sept. 22: Oakland (11th)
* Sept. 28: Boston (1st)
* Oct. 3: Cleveland (12th)

Ho. Lee. Crap. This is a cakewalk.

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Was just going to post this as a comment. Looks much better this way.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver

by Chiburb on Aug 5, 2010 9:44 AM CDT reply actions  

huh, how would hudson fare

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 5, 2010 9:44 AM CDT reply actions  

I'd like to see Phreddy's sked.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver

by Chiburb on Aug 5, 2010 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

sked?

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 5, 2010 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Schedule.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver

by Chiburb on Aug 5, 2010 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Shed-dule?

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Aug 5, 2010 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

hopefully freddy faces the yankees, red sox, twins 3 times

he’s big game freddy…. he’ll obviously come up large in those games..

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 5, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

5 years ago

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 5, 2010 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

id take a quick ponder of his results this season....

he’s done well against good teams. and bad teams really…. so get off the dudes jock

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 5, 2010 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

All that matters is today.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver

by Chiburb on Aug 5, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

x

These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.

by thatshortkid on Aug 5, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

in 9 starts (3xMIN, 2xTEX, TOR, NYY, LAA, TBR)

he’s 4-2 with an ERA of 4.09, whip of 1.42, k/bb of 1.65…not a horrible line for a 5th starter

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 5, 2010 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

doesn't mean i want freddy facing the yanks and the red sox

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 5, 2010 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

He has been a surprisingly good fifth starter.

But he’s still, rather obviously, the fifth starter. Those peripherals are scary; he’s really fortunate he has had some incredible luck this year.

"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112

by RWShow on Aug 5, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't count on it. I continue to be pleasantly surprised whenever it happens,

but if he drops off the table today, I’m not going to be the least bit surprised.

"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112

by RWShow on Aug 5, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

his era/fip/xfip is 4.73/4.52/4.58

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 5, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

and his opponents babip is .310, a tad higher than his career norm of 0.292

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 5, 2010 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmm, I just assumed with all the talk

Of him falling off a cliff, that his other numbers must be less impressive.

by Grinder in Training on Aug 5, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not worried about his command leaving him

I’m worried about him going on the DL, he hasn’t had this kind of workload since ‘06. I wouldn’t mind seeing them skip him in the rotation if we have a day off.

"We are strong enough as we are and everything fits together in such a way that the only thing we were going to add would be something of an impact guy," KW

by ChicagoPete on Aug 5, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

His numbers have been pretty much the same all year.

He just had a hot streak.

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Aug 5, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Monthly xFIP for sweaty

5.06, 4.51, 4.32 & 4.56

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Aug 5, 2010 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

x

Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game of 2008.

by NorthSidePaulie on Aug 5, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don Cooper has done a great job of putting him a position to succeed

this can’t be just coincidence. Builds confidence and allows him to work on his new mechanics or what ever Coop is “adjusting”. Could be Jim already covered this but I haven’t made it over to SM yet.

by Rhubarb on Aug 5, 2010 10:11 AM CDT reply actions  

it can be a coincidence.

cooper said he’d laid out a schedule for his starters for the rest of the season prior to the trade deadline. you can assume this was hudson’s schedule and jackson is just stepping in.

by larry on Aug 5, 2010 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can see Cooper developing the schedule for Hudson

handing him some cake but then I guess it would be a coincidence that Jackson steps into Hudson role and reaps the rewards of what did not start out as a coincidence. Either way, this is good stuff and bodes well for Jackson moving forward.

by Rhubarb on Aug 5, 2010 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

makes sense to me.

and regardless of how hudson would fare against these weak teams, if they think jackson is a better pitcher right now, i’d still rather have him going than hudson. pros and cons for sure though!

by Jack M on Aug 5, 2010 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't have a problem jettisoning Hudson.

I guess my initial reaction did not take into account the big picture, which several folks have spelled out here on SSS, which is value over time. I am going to live in the now and say I like the trade.

by Rhubarb on Aug 5, 2010 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

"Live in the now"

I’ve been looking for a polite way to say “Have your head up you ass”

by joewho112 on Aug 5, 2010 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Your welcome joewho112.

I have seen your analysis and others analysis and I agree with the value over time quandry but you can’t change what happened so I am looking on the positives for this season. That and if Jackson appears to be “fixed” and does well down the stretch, does this not raise his value in the offseason for possible trades?

by Rhubarb on Aug 5, 2010 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just razzing ya

I just thought it was a funny line

by joewho112 on Aug 5, 2010 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cool.

Lets get some good carmel on Jackson’s side for this season seeing as we are “stuck” with him. He can definitely improve on last nights start and be a nice piece down the stretch. Then hopefully kenny can move him in the offseason to put that 8mil in another hole.

by Rhubarb on Aug 5, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

carmel?

I have no idea what that means.

by coffeepac on Aug 5, 2010 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

I meant caramel.

It is from a Sealab 2021 episode. Someone kept saying bad caramel instead of karma and everyone else kept trying to correct him but he wouldn’t have it and kept saying caramel. It was either Murphy or Marco, I think.

by Rhubarb on Aug 5, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hate Marco

and his stupid mailbox head.

White Sox fan; Jeppson's Malort man

by KarkoviceIsHawt on Aug 5, 2010 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

You actually meant...

Let’s see if we can get the faculty of Mount Carmel on his side, with all that extra priestly praying, that ought to be worth some VORP, huh?

by TasteeFreeze on Aug 5, 2010 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Anybody care to guess his unscientific record?

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Aug 5, 2010 10:39 AM CDT reply actions  

I say he goes a total of 8-2 or 7-3

And we hear all the stories about this critical acquisition…..

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Aug 5, 2010 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

His record, or the team's record in those games?

The rest of the way I think the team goes 8 – 3.. although with Hudson, I’d have thought something like 7 – 4, considering the opponents are pretty much horseshit.

Jackson finishes up 6 – 3 in those 11 games, with two bullpen victories. Couple close losses and one game where he gets rocked.

by Grinder in Training on Aug 5, 2010 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

don't give up man

but you might need some RR seasoning. lets see you toss up, say, 2 fan shots talking about waiver wive movements, 1 fan post about Dye vs Delgado and 5 solid comments in the prospect thread. you need the reps.

by coffeepac on Aug 5, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

I would like someone off the RR

to actually put together a serious piece on Delgado vs. Dye. That would be very humorous and delightening.

by Rhubarb on Aug 5, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

And finally the "also wore shoes" registers in my addled brain.

I now seewhatyoualldidthere

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Aug 5, 2010 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bo knows sad.

its time for the come to Jesus moment and admit Kotsay's time has long passed. -tdogg

by e-gus on Aug 5, 2010 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like that he faces the Tigers thrice

seems like a nice intangible, especially at Comerica.

Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game of 2008.

by NorthSidePaulie on Aug 5, 2010 10:45 AM CDT reply actions  

Since Jackson is here and I have to let go........

I caught some of the end of the game. I have to admit, I did smile seeing a starting pitcher hit 97 on a gun in a seventh inning. Hell ANY inning. Who is the last Sox starter that threw that hard? Younger Count?

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Aug 5, 2010 10:46 AM CDT reply actions  

I saw a 98 mph earlier in the game on a K

Granted I know guns vary and am not sure how Comerica’s rates.

by Rhubarb on Aug 5, 2010 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

fatolo circa 2003?

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 5, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

MGonzalez tweeted:
Sox remember that Delgado vetoed trade to Sox several years ago

by Jack M on Aug 5, 2010 10:48 AM CDT reply actions  

Not that I really care if we get him or not

but if the Sox offer him something and he doesn’t take it, he is a freaking idiot. What other contender does he think he has even a remote shot of making the roster?

by CatBrains on Aug 5, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hey the Bulls held a grudge against McGrady.

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Aug 5, 2010 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought they helped him out by hyping him up?

Though supposedly it was a favor for his agent more than him.

by CatBrains on Aug 5, 2010 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol

I dont really know, I was just kidding. It was to Mark G’s point about the Sox or Reinsdorf remembering the rejection earlier. McGrady did it on a grander stage to his boy Krause.

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Aug 5, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

they're both about that far from their primes too.

Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.

by MarketMaker on Aug 5, 2010 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

perhaps delgado is far from prime, but he still posted a high obp and slg in a limited number of games last year

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 5, 2010 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

question is all else being equal

can delgado get ready in time for a late season push?

"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10

by Ahillock on Aug 5, 2010 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

effin twins.

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver

by Chiburb on Aug 5, 2010 11:22 AM CDT reply actions  

fuck

fuck

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 5, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

fuck

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 5, 2010 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

GOOSE!

"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112

by RWShow on Aug 5, 2010 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Always a favorite

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Aug 5, 2010 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

My assumption was

the angst over the schedule and the call up of Torres had to do with keeping Freddy in position where he’d get the maximum rest. So I’d expect to see him on the first or last day of a series more often than not to take advantage of off days.

Just glancing at the schedule it looks like it.

Comonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn You White Sox!

by zokmaad on Aug 5, 2010 11:55 AM CDT reply actions  

tea leaves
Manager Ozzie Guillen hinted that Dayan Viciedo might be in Thursday’s lineup and when he wasn’t, general manager Ken Williams seemed the most shocked.

Williams took his first look at the batting order, and while not upset, he wondered aloud about the omission of the big third baseman.

Guillen was ready with an answer.

"I did (want to play Viciedo Thursday), but I had a meeting with my coaching staff," Guillen said. "Viciedo will play in Baltimore. I think this kid (Tigers pitcher Max Scherzer) has good enough stuff and we have to take Viciedo step by step."

The White Sox open a four game series at Baltimore on Friday (the series will conclude Monday at Camden Yards).

"The way we are doing it right now is a good thing," Guillen said. "He will play two out of four games in Baltimore and continue to play. My job is to find the best matchup (against) a pitcher, especially when you are a kid. The matchup today was not the best one for him."

http://espn.go.com/blog/chicagowhite-sox/post/_/id/1295/viciedo-omission-surprises-williams

by larry on Aug 5, 2010 12:52 PM CDT reply actions  

that there is conflict between kw and ozzie on viciedo's current value to the team

means that he may not be the one to be sent down?

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 6, 2010 2:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought Ho Lee Crap was Cleveland's new catcher.

Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 5, 2010 9:04 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

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