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The Fall: A Baltimore Orioles Preview

Learn to play, the Balmer way.  (Photo by Greg Fiume/Getty Images)

A brief look at an opponent we play this weekend.

Dates we play them: 8/6-8/9 @ Baltimore, 8/24-8/26 at home

Offense: A potential lineup: Brian Roberts-2B, Nick Markakis-RF, Ty Wigginton-1B, Luke Scott-DH, Adam Jones-CF, Felix Pie-LF, Matt Wieters-C, Josh Bell-3B, Cesar Izturis.  Bench: Julio Lugo-MI, Jake Fox-C, Corey Patterson-OF.

Oh Baltimore.  What happened?  How did you fall to 28th in runs scored this season?  That .704 OPS is probably the answer.  Brian Roberts finally returned to active duty July 23, having been on the DL with an abdominal strain since April 10.  It seems weird trying to judge his season over 56 PA.  Age seemed to be catching up with him somewhat last season, and these injuries can't have helped.  He's still fast and has good pop for a second baseman, and should remain good to decent for at least a few more years.  It seems that Nick Markakis isn't going to live up to his full potential.  He followed up his amazing 2008 season (6.3 WAR) with a disappointing 2009 (2.2 WAR).  His power continues to decline (.145 ISO) and he has now had two consecutive seasons of below average defense.  Ty Wigginton came out of the gates on fire, with an OPS of 1.086 in April and .877 in May.  Unfortunately for Andy MacPhail, he cratered the next two months.  This is why Ty is still in Birdland.  He's walking more this season than he ever has before, and is showing some decent power.  His defense, ick.  It wouldn't be shocking to see him in Camden again next season, as Brandon Snyder really hasn't been crushing the ball in the minors.  Luke Scott is the O's best hitter, and it shocks me that they didn't trade him away last week.  Why hold on to him when you won't compete this or next season?  Scott has been murdering the ball this season, to the tune of a .290 ISO.  He is a great left-handed bat, and it would have been great to see him in the black and white.

Star-divide

Adam Jones has been a bit of a letdown this season.  While he's played better defense, he's walking even less and hitting for less power.  If he can't get his OBP over .330, he'll never be much more than average.  He still has a great shot at an All-Star career, but he needs to get going and fast.  Felix Pie rounds out the trio of disappointing outfield seasons.  Much like Jones, his walks and power are done.  Unlike Jones though, he has played atrocious defense this year (UZR small sample sizes being noted).  Pie is the kind of player that is a fringe starter on bad teams, which the Orioles happen to be.  I realize this post just seems like me hating on the Orioles, but I do like them and their players.  They are just having an abysmal year.  Matt Wieters hitting numbers may not look as good as last season's, but that is what happens when you somehow manage a .356 BABIP over 385 PA.  He has upped his walk rate 3% and cut his strikeout rate by 3.7% though, which are much more encouraging.  He is still only 24, and is good defensively.  He may never be Carlos Santana with the bat, but he will most likely be a top 5 AL catcher for the next couple seasons.  Josh Bell probably could have used some more time in the minors.  He backslid some at Norfolk this year, but still earned his call-up last month.  Bell was a great return for George Sherill, and the number one hitting prospect in the system should pick it up as the season goes on.  Lord knows he can't hit much worse.  Miguel Tejada becoming a Padre clears his path.  Cesar Izturis is a utility man who has had a starting role in Baltimore the past two seasons due to the lack of a viable alternative.  He is nothing to worry about.

Pitching: A potential rotation and closer: Kevin Millwood-RHP, Jeremy Guthrie-RHP, Brian Matusz-LHP, Jake Arrieta-RHP, Brad Bergesen-RHP, and Alfredo Simon-CL.

When you combine the third worst offense in baseball with the worst pitching staff in baseball (in terms of R/G), you get the worst record in baseball.  Kevin Millwood has already allowed 23 homeruns, with 2 months left in the season.  He is pitching the worst season of his career, and if he isn't injured and not telling anyone I will eat my hat (I like that old-timey phrase).  He throws a high-80's fastball, a slider, a curve, and a changeup.  None of them are plus pitches anymore.  He is an incredibly expensive and bad fifth starter.  Jeremy Guthrie has been the true default ace of the rotation, being the only one with an ERA+ over 100 (it currently sits at 101).  The half-Japanese Mormon (which has nothing to do with anything other than being really cool to me) seems to go relatively unnoticed despite pitching decently each year.  On a good team, he's a fourth or fifth starter you love to have.  He does tend to have problems with the longball, which the Sox can take full advantage of.  He throws a low-90's fastball, a slider, a change, and the occasional curveball.  His fastball and slider have both been plus pitches in the past.  Matusz, the lone southpaw, has the brightest future.  He was ranked the number 5 prospect in baseball by BA this preseason.  When he gets a little bit more control, he will be lights out.  He throws a low-90's fastball, a changeup, a curveball, and a slider.  Though it hasn't seemed it this season, his changeup is his money pitch.  Jake Arrieta was the number 5 prospect in the system this winter, due in large part to his nasty slider.  His control has been awful in the majors, but this wasn't exactly unexpected.  He struggled with his command in the minors and is only 24.  He has a low-90's fastball, a slider, a curveball, and a changeup.  All have been scouted as above-average.  Brad Bergesen has not followed up his debut season very well.  After the embarrassing pre-season injury during a commercial shoot, he just has not bounced back.  The .339 BABIP hasn't helped much.  He throws a high-80's fastball, a slider, a changeup, and a curveball.  Alfredo Simon took over as closer when Mike Gonzalez proved that he lacks the ability to not hurt himself.  He does not have nearly good enough control to remain in the role long term.  He throws a mid-90's fastball, a split finger, a changeup, and a curveball.

Outlook:  The AL East is a lot like chess.  Now look, check it, it's simple, it's simple.  Now, the king, he move one space any direction he damn choose, 'cause he's the king. Like this, this, this, a'ight?  You see this? This the queen. She smart, she fast. She move any way she want, as far as she want. And she is the go-get-shit-done piece.  And this over here is the castle. Like the stash. It can move like this, and like this. These right here, these are the pawns. They like the soldiers. They move like this, one space forward only. Except when they fight, then it's like this.  Look, the pawns, man, in the game, they get capped quick. They be out the game early. Unless they some smart-ass pawns.  So far, the Orioles have not been some smart-ass pawns.  Prediction: 5-2 season series.

Go check out Camden Chat, and no, that last paragraph wasn't the only Wire reference in the article.

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Ah shit, U-God’s post already derailed. What the fuck did I do?

DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 5, 2010 11:56 PM CDT reply actions  

one day for me was last off season

it was pooty goo

its time for the come to Jesus moment and admit Kotsay's time has long passed. -tdogg

by e-gus on Aug 6, 2010 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Im NEVER going to WATCH it

never

something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.

-MarketMaker

by blackoutsox on Aug 6, 2010 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're not missing much.

It’s like Everyone Love Raymond, but with crime.

"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose

by Teahenny Penny on Aug 6, 2010 2:30 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Is that the Asian version of "Everybody Loves Raymond"?

ROR.

Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 6, 2010 6:09 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Ask your biz partner.

;-)

"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112

by RWShow on Aug 6, 2010 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's the Gob version.

“Check out banner, wu!” Or “Family Love wu.”

"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose

by Teahenny Penny on Aug 6, 2010 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Never seen it.

Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 6, 2010 6:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

better than Sopranos? Dexter? Breaking Bad?

might have to watch it.

"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10

by Ahillock on Aug 6, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

yes, si, and dah

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Aug 6, 2010 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Especially if uou an Italian.

Absolutely fantastic.

Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 6, 2010 3:12 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

i always thought he was jewish?

all the jews love wu-tang.

"I haven’t gotten to where I am by giving up easily." - Ari Gold

by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 6, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

doubtful that it is better than dexter

"I haven’t gotten to where I am by giving up easily." - Ari Gold

by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 6, 2010 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe you should watch it.

Seasons 1 and 4 of Dexter were good, but 2 and 3 were trash. Just a bunch of awful one-note characters and Michael C. Hall acting badass.

DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 6, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

the book ended at season 1.

and it was changed for tv for whatever thats worth.

not a bad read.

that one funny thing that guy said yesterday

by e-gus on Aug 6, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

i watched the first 5 or 6 episodes of season 1, never got to finish it...

apparently it picks up from your reactions.

"I haven’t gotten to where I am by giving up easily." - Ari Gold

by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 6, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

ugh, Dexter isn't that great

It’s a solid show and Michael C Hall is great. In fact, normally it’s great when he is on screen. The problem is everything else and the AWFUL character that is his sister. What an awful, awful television character.

by shaftr on Aug 6, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

so in other words

morgan ruins it for you.

"I haven’t gotten to where I am by giving up easily." - Ari Gold

by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 6, 2010 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well, it's no Sex in the City.

Just kidding.

I’d have to really think to see if I’d agree that the Wire is the best written show in the past two decades. It’s hard to compare it to pure comedies like Seinfeld or Arrested Development, or satire serials like Buffy, all of which were written very well..

Even comparing appIes to apples, I’m not completely sold that the Wire is the best. I guess the main “problem” I have with the Wire (and I loved the show, by the way), it that it was inconsistent. Season One was very good but not better than (say) the better seasons of Homicide or the Shield. Season 2 was merely good. Seasons 3 and 4 were flawless — better than anything I’ve seen on TV. Season 5 was barely even OK. How does that compare to Homicide or the Shield, which were not as good at their bests, but better at their worsts? Don’t know.

by BridgeportJoe on Aug 6, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Wire

is brilliant as a requiem for the American City. I thought Seasons 1-4 were all brilliant, and particularly would make a case for Season 2 because of its focus on the disappearance of work. I also think that the Wire is great because it creates empathy for all characters, and it shows in many places what unfettered capitalism looks like. I agree that Season 5 was weak, largely because David Simon had too many scores to settle with the Baltimore Sun. It had a two-dimensional simplicity to it that the others avoided.

by VAChisox on Aug 6, 2010 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Season 4

Was the best single season I have ever seen.

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Aug 6, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's what the critics say, and I'm inclined to agree.

Of all the seasons, Season 4 was the only one I watched over a 13-week HBO season, and I think I lost a lot of its impact that way. I watched others in the course of a couple of days. My wife gave me the whole set last Christmas, but I haven’t yet sat down to rewatch Season 4.

by VAChisox on Aug 6, 2010 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

breaking bad season 3 was bad ass

"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10

by Ahillock on Aug 6, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Breaking Bad is the best show since the Wire, so there's that.

DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 6, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Season 1 of Mad Men was better than season 1 of Breaking Bad

So of course I thought Mad Men was the better show. Season 2 of each I will call a near wash. Both had their great moments, both had some meandering moments. However, Breaking Bad finished the season much stronger, so I was starting to question which was my favorite.

Then season 3 of Mad Men came along and reasserted itself as the best show on television. The last 3 episodes were some of the most cathartic, gripping drama I have ever seen, Wire included.

But then season 3 of Breaking Bad came out and despite a few episodes of meandering, by the end I was taken to a place of so much moral quandary that I was emotionally taxed beyond what I thought TV could do.

So what is better, Breaking Bad or Mad Men? And are either even close to The Wire? In the end I don’t really care. They are all great and I am just so happy to live in a time where TV has become such a force for story telling because I think it is potentially a better medium than Film.

(Also worth mentioning: Deadwood and The Shield)

by CatBrains on Aug 6, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

i love that box set

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Aug 6, 2010 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

Though just barely. Season 3 was also really, really amazing.

Other great seasons in TV history:

Buffy Seasons 3 and 5.
Mad Men Season 1.
The Sopranos season where Janice straps it on and then kills her husband.

by BridgeportJoe on Aug 6, 2010 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

ugh

i hate Janice. that was a sweet season though.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Aug 6, 2010 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're supposed to hate her.

DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 6, 2010 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

well yeah

job well done, is all.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Aug 6, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do not sleep on Buffy

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Aug 6, 2010 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd gladly sleep on buffy, but that's not what I meant :)

don’t get me wrong. most of the WB shows were entertaining, I just dunno about them producing anything close to best ever status.

by Trooper on Aug 6, 2010 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's just it.

It’s what I mean by “apples to apples” comparison. Is the Wire better than Seinfeld? Or the early Law and Order? How can you even compare a narrative-based urban crime drama with a “comedy about nothing” with a criminal justice procedural?

In that vein, Buffy took two completely different genres (high school soap opera and monster story), combined them, and ended up with probably the most astute commentary about young adulthood you’ll ever see. Is it as socially powerful as the Wire? Of course not. But it’s a lot funnier, and most of the time, somewhat cleverer — and I’d posit, for a huge swath of the population, a lot more relevant.

(All of that said, like the Wire, it was wildly inconsistent. The only “great” seasons were 3 and 5; season 2 was very good; seasons 1 and 6 were watchable but uneven; and seasons 4 and 7 weren’t really even watchable.)

Also, just to throw it out there: True Blood. No, it’s not great. Yes, the cultural metaphors are pretty heavy-handed, and no, the directors can’t pull them off as deftly or as humorously as Joss Whedon did on Buffy.

But. Lots and lots of sex involving hot women (and Anna Pacquin, but that’s kind of cool in and of itself). And cool vampires. And, again, the hot naked women.

by BridgeportJoe on Aug 6, 2010 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

In order:

The Wire, season 2.
Simpsons, season 4.
Seinfeld, season 4.
Arrested Development, season 2.

by The Actual El Guapo on Aug 6, 2010 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, someone else who has a love for Season 2.

I got your back Ziggy!

DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 6, 2010 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

quantum leap season 1?

its time for the come to Jesus moment and admit Kotsay's time has long passed. -tdogg

by e-gus on Aug 6, 2010 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

the Fall Guy

all of it.

its time for the come to Jesus moment and admit Kotsay's time has long passed. -tdogg

by e-gus on Aug 6, 2010 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Plot:

Lee Majors plays Colt Seavers, a Hollywood stunt man who moonlights as a bounty hunter.

its time for the come to Jesus moment and admit Kotsay's time has long passed. -tdogg

by e-gus on Aug 6, 2010 2:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

The truck

Colt’s truck was an early 1980s GMC 4×4 pickup. It had a 6-inch lift and 35-inch Dick Cepek off-road tires mounted on a 16-inch chrome wagon style wheel. The truck also had a custom-made chrome roll bar mounted with 4 off-road lights, and a custom chrome grille guard mounted with 2 off-road lights and a Warn winch. One unusual characteristic was a secret compartment in the truck’s bed, which was used to stash away villains or to hide weapons.

The vehicle was painted brown and tan two-tone; it had an eagle painted on the hood with the phrase “Fall Guy Stuntman Association” underneath. The truck was very often involved in high-speed chases and huge jumps.

its time for the come to Jesus moment and admit Kotsay's time has long passed. -tdogg

by e-gus on Aug 6, 2010 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

and the crescendo

the theme song sung by Lee Majors himself.

Are we all in agreement that the early 80s was the high water mark for american sitcoms? the fall guy, the muppet show, the incredible hulk, dukes of hazzard, threes company, sanford & son.

its time for the come to Jesus moment and admit Kotsay's time has long passed. -tdogg

by e-gus on Aug 6, 2010 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

season 1 and 4

but i agree with you on the non-Wire stuff.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Aug 6, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

this

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 6, 2010 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I made a half-assed attempt several years back, but just wasn't into it.

Tragic, considering that 60 percent of the jokes on this site are tangentially related to it.

"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112

by RWShow on Aug 6, 2010 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

netflix is invaluable

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Aug 6, 2010 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

so are torrents

"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10

by Ahillock on Aug 6, 2010 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

IT'S EITHER PLAY, OR GET PLAYED.

DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 6, 2010 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

needs more hamsterdam

its time for the come to Jesus moment and admit Kotsay's time has long passed. -tdogg

by e-gus on Aug 6, 2010 12:44 AM CDT reply actions  

ozzie should favor thornton or putz over jenks in this series

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 6, 2010 12:54 AM CDT reply actions  

will be interesting to see how it goes.

I don’t think bobby will ever pitch with a lead and not be closing. others may close, but bobby won’t pitch those games.

by Trooper on Aug 6, 2010 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

even if he wasn't as unreliable as he is right now

he has poor history vs the o’s

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 6, 2010 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

if I know Ozzie

it will be Santos.

Comonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn You White Sox!

by zokmaad on Aug 6, 2010 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

no

but there was a similar situation in 2005 where he gave the job to a rookie. He talks enough about Putz and Thorton’s roles I would not be surprised. Santos has the stuff.

Comonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn You White Sox!

by zokmaad on Aug 6, 2010 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is great UG.

I like how you pause in the middle of the playahating to say you don’t mean to, and then get right back to it.

Also this is the 3rd preview since the hotness started I think, but the only one with an optimistic prediction. Dunno what that means. I think ruh roh.

by Trooper on Aug 6, 2010 12:57 AM CDT reply actions  

+1

For a great The Wire reference.

also, good luck with your non Illinois education.

by chiefgint09 on Aug 6, 2010 1:01 AM CDT reply actions  

thanks man

i’ve got four days left in this great state

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Aug 6, 2010 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

i'm watching second season of the wire

right now, and it just cracks me up how bodie is driving around philly for a re-up listening to garrison keillor

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 6, 2010 1:13 AM CDT reply actions  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7bR3T1eThJU

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 6, 2010 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

just re-started season 2

and that scene always kills me.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Aug 6, 2010 6:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

bodie IS baltimore

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 7, 2010 3:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

not to make light of your situation

but i would go down there if i had the free time..plus bmore has to have some unofficial ‘the wire’ tour like where they show you the couch in the pit or where stringer got shot

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 6, 2010 2:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

I am likely going to take my 7-yr old son to Sunday's game.

I’m less than 3 hours from Camden. The only catch is that he’s been away all week and comes home Saturday and I’ll need to see if he’s really up for going before ordering tickets. It would be great to actually meet some SSS folks.

Maybe Bunk and McNulty will be there as well.

by VAChisox on Aug 6, 2010 5:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great preview

Thanks for the time and effort, especially a team that one generally speed reads over. Am I the only one holding their breath at the start of each new series (this one being “what if they lose to a team they should walk over”, Detroit was “if the Sox lose all four then Detroit’s back in it”). I can’t remember being so hoping- that-the-bubble-don’t burst about any Sox team. Maybe the absolute suckitude of the first two months.

And maybe it’s time Chris Parlow took Bobby for a walk to the vacants….

by Dick Allen's batting helmet on Aug 6, 2010 2:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Is the first Wire reference Brian Roberts, because he was the first batter mentioned at the Sox/O's game in season 3?

The Sox will send the McNulty boys home sad once again, home with their whore mother, Callie Thorne. Boo-fucking-hoo.

"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose

by Teahenny Penny on Aug 6, 2010 2:58 AM CDT reply actions  

the first was the title

the fall is the name of the end credits song

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Aug 6, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ahh, gotcha.

Also, nice preview, as always.

"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose

by Teahenny Penny on Aug 6, 2010 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Very accurate preview. It has been pretty depressing as an O's fan...

Although that last series against the Angels was a breath of fresh air.

Should be a fun/interesting series.

"If I was being paid thirty-thousand dollars a year, the very least I could do was hit .400." - Ted Williams

by Capsfan07 on Aug 6, 2010 3:10 AM CDT reply actions  

thanks

i can’t imagine having to support a team that continually loses, but you guys impress the hell out of me.

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Aug 6, 2010 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Lol

It’s been rough, but one day it’ll all be worth it.

"If I was being paid thirty-thousand dollars a year, the very least I could do was hit .400." - Ted Williams

by Capsfan07 on Aug 6, 2010 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

The bigger the lie, the more they believe.

DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 6, 2010 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ironic...

I’ve been watching a documentary on the History Channel about the JFK assassination…

"If I was being paid thirty-thousand dollars a year, the very least I could do was hit .400." - Ted Williams

by Capsfan07 on Aug 6, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

The orioles are my 2nd favorite baseball team.

obviously i hope the sox beat them 100-0 all four games of the series…. but as a fan from afar it is a shame that they are just this bad. In my preseason picks i had them tabbed for a 3rd place finish… I must have been doing shrooms that day- but I thought they had a great offense with just enough pitching to be ok. I man crushed hard on Markakis for 3 years now- but he isn’t the player i thought he was going to be.

That being said- they make me nervous. Maybe it is because of Tito Landrum, maybe it is because of 2007 when i went to a 4 game set in baltimore and they kicked our asses 3 of 4 games and maybe its because they own the fat billy goat. I expect 3/4… anything less would be unfortunate.

(By the way- they seriously need to change their hats…. the side profile bird is lame… it HAS to go back to the old cartoon logo).

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 6, 2010 3:42 AM CDT reply actions  

i was thinking of you when writing about markakis

because i am of the exact same train of thought. i was hoping he could be the next great oriole and give them something amazing to build around.

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Aug 6, 2010 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought Markakis and Reimold would both be kicking ass.

Reimold is even doing bad in the minors.
Way off on that one.

its time for the come to Jesus moment and admit Kotsay's time has long passed. -tdogg

by e-gus on Aug 6, 2010 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

coop!
“It was just a matter of standing tall and not collapsing on my back side, which allows me to be more around the plate, and have a better angle on the ball,” Jackson said on “The Waddle & Silvy Show” on ESPN 1000.

“The big thing about his mechanics is to stand tall. That really is the big thing. I saw some video. It’s not hard to see people’s flaws. The tough part is to fix the flaws. That’s where the challenge is, and I do like challenges.”

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 6, 2010 5:23 AM CDT reply actions  

good

now go watch some video of Bobbie.

Comonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn You White Sox!

by zokmaad on Aug 6, 2010 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

x

its time for the come to Jesus moment and admit Kotsay's time has long passed. -tdogg

by e-gus on Aug 6, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Buck Showalter talked about the American League East last night.

“Big hairy guys play there.” Didn’t say anything about BHB in the Central. Let’s make him pay attention to the hottest team in the league.

Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 6, 2010 6:11 AM CDT reply actions  

of course he did, buck and ozzie are buddies

they’ll probably share a few drinks after the games

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 6, 2010 6:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

tounged cheek?

I vaguely remember a bunch of bs from him vs the sox when he was with the rangers.

by Trooper on Aug 6, 2010 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gus Triandos

Why no reference to this wire legend?

by weavebeast on Aug 6, 2010 7:27 AM CDT reply actions  

“It’s got nothing to do with sex. It’s about sympathy. It’s about giving a guy a break…He looked like this little kid who got left at a bus station by his parents. You know why? Because he had to catch Hoyt Wilhelm’s knuckleball. Five fucking years. The worst gig in baseball. It was like trying to catch a greased pig with wings. I mean, he even told a reporter once, ‘Wilhelm nearly ruined me.’ Gus Triandos. Big slow guy.”

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 6, 2010 7:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

--

This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 6, 2010 8:34 AM CDT reply actions  

So, anybody going to LaPooza this weekend?

Seeing anyone in particular?

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver

by Chiburb on Aug 6, 2010 8:41 AM CDT reply actions  

Yes

But just Friday. My girlfriend wants to see Lady Gaga. I want to see everyone else.

by joewho112 on Aug 6, 2010 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

hell yeah, all weekend!

going to be all over, winging it a bit. new perry’s stage should be bigger and better, pumped for chromeo / digitalism / kaskade / arcade fire and more

by Jack M on Aug 6, 2010 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yup, I'm there.

Friday will be fun with Big Pink, Devo, etc, but Saturday has an INSANE stretch with Stars, The xx, Grizzly Bear, Metric, Spoon, Cut Copy, and Phoenix. They’re all playing opposite each other on the Budweiser and Playstation stages, so just camp out and turn around every hour or so.

Sick.

I am annoyed that Javelin is going on so early this morning, but for you Loop workers, they’re playing a free show at Pritzker on Monday at noon.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7JRex8S54VA

“I try to stroke you
you play me like Sudoku”

"What do you mean?" he answered. "I love the Outfield!"

by madopal on Aug 6, 2010 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

i want to see the big pink so fucking bad

instead i will be moving my furniture out of champaign.

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Aug 6, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Walkmen are my favorite band ever

oh god i want that leak. if you were a good person, you would send me an email.

My favorite show I’ve ever seen was the walkmen at taste of rosemont street festival. they played 2 old songs (we’ve been had, all hands on the cook) and the rest of the set was new material for You and me. This show was only a year after 100 miles off came out, and i almost shit myself as they played like 9 aces songs I’d never heard before.

I don’t have a child, so i want to go to the double door.

"It just occurred to me that the White Sox could win the division."
" That just makes me want to puke all over your head, sir."

by boyonthedock on Aug 6, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dunn claimed

but who dunn it?

Fortunately, I'm adhering to a pretty strict, uh, drug, uh, regimen to keep my mind, you know, uh, limber.

by Moral Narcissist on Aug 6, 2010 9:22 AM CDT reply actions  

my guess

los gigantes

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Aug 6, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

So you're saying he was CLAIMED?

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Aug 6, 2010 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

that's what he's claiming.

I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok

by mick10 on Aug 6, 2010 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

rumor was

an NL team was going to claim him for sure.

Comonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn You White Sox!

by zokmaad on Aug 6, 2010 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

now only if they can make a trade

rizzo hates trades

"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10

by Ahillock on Aug 6, 2010 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is anyone else sick of this Omar+tutoring+Che=better defense

lip service. If we DFA’d Omar today would Che get worse at defense? NDsoxfan jackass, in a previous thread thinks we should sign Omar next year too in order to help Alexei out on defense. This shit is getting ridiculous, when does the Omar effect simply not matter anymore? I’m not arguing tht he has had a positive influence but Che is a grown man.

by Rhubarb on Aug 6, 2010 10:43 AM CDT reply actions  

+1

"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver

by Chiburb on Aug 6, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

awesome

"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10

by Ahillock on Aug 6, 2010 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's rich!

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Aug 6, 2010 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

i wouldn't mind omar as a cheap bench player next year

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Aug 6, 2010 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Neither would I

but I think the master-pupil relationship is being a bit overdone.

by Rhubarb on Aug 6, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

probably

but oh well

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Aug 6, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ha, clearly.

You’re arguing about a good thing?

Time to call in the Q!avalry.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Aug 6, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hahaha.

You know what I hate? When we give up a hit, then get 3 outs. We should just get 3 outs.

Time to call in the Q!avalry.

by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Aug 6, 2010 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

A bit.

Only a bit. If you have a happy workplace you tend to produce more. We have a happy left side. I credit Omar.

Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 6, 2010 3:19 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

I hate old people

(clearly)

Get back to work, slacker!

It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT

by rhythm on Aug 6, 2010 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

i like him on the team,

for that and for the late inning defensive sub

by Jack M on Aug 6, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

there's a soundbite i've heard a few times on the score

in which lawrence holmes asks ozzie whether omar’s presence is responsible for alexei’s improved defense, and ozzie responds that the only person who should get any credit for alexei’s improvement is joey cora.

by Ryno on Aug 6, 2010 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think Ozzie is sticking by his guys.

On “The Club,” he said if he got fired, the coaching staff goes with him. JC has been working with Alexei a lot longer than Omar has.

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Aug 6, 2010 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

ozzie coaching stagg sounds like a gang

"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10

by Ahillock on Aug 6, 2010 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

They'll knock over a dustbin in Shaftsbury

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Aug 6, 2010 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

The hooligans!

"We can't do it easy. But we may as well do it high." -The Cheat

by South Side Expat on Aug 6, 2010 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ozzie say

Omar no help him. If anyone gonna be help him coach’s help him. No Omar.

Comonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn You White Sox!

by zokmaad on Aug 6, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

i mentioned it as one comment.

to which i added he has played well this year
he can play pretty good defense at 3 positions
and he can switch hit off the bench
I also dont think it crazy to think that someone with 11 gold gloves cant help another player become better. i dont think if he leaves that ramirez will automatically be worse but it cant hurt to have someone like omar around him.
madvillian suggested bringing him back as a coach so maybe you should be calling him out “jackass”

by ndsoxfan on Aug 6, 2010 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Fall

Best UK punk band?

I think so. 30 years and still making killer rekkids.

HIP HIP HIP HIP HIP HIP PRIEST

by scott b on Aug 6, 2010 11:54 AM CDT reply actions  

never heard of em

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Aug 6, 2010 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

jesus

is Mark E Smith still even alive? Even if he is its not the same band you loved.

Comonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn You White Sox!

by zokmaad on Aug 6, 2010 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks UGod

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Aug 6, 2010 12:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Indians will give the Twins a beating, right?

"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10

by Ahillock on Aug 6, 2010 12:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Fun Fact

littlebridge’s BABIP is now .619

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Aug 6, 2010 1:09 PM CDT reply actions  

How was that scored a home run?

The fuck?

Its sort of a chess match right now but some upgrades are still possible with very little cost except money.
by Tdogg on Jul 23, 2010 10:13 AM EDT

by winningugly on Aug 6, 2010 3:27 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions  

Ummm...Pods called the scorer?

It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT

by rhythm on Aug 6, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

somebody needs to tell geovanny soto

that that is not a good look. (that’s part of the reason he’s on my list)

hey swisher...........you know.

by BuehrleMan on Aug 6, 2010 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

i'm not sayin

i’m just sayin

hey swisher...........you know.

by BuehrleMan on Aug 6, 2010 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

METROSEXUAL

which i think means you can suck dick yet still call yourself straight!?!

"The trouble with baseball is that the player who knows how to bat and field the best is sitting in the bleachers" or on sss!?!

by Grinder Rule #42 on Aug 6, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

(R-Idaho)

His name is Rios and he dances on the sand

by Nordhagen on Aug 6, 2010 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

WHY CAN'T THE GAME START ALREADY!? I CAN'T TAKE IT ANYMORE!!! AHHHHHHHH!!!!!

It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT

by rhythm on Aug 6, 2010 3:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Logistics.

The schedules and times were set a long time ago. It would cost literally hundreds of dollars to reprint the tickets.

Don’t shoot the messenger.

"...a mouth without grinders is like a mill without grindstone,"
-Don Quixote

by SkanchoDanza on Aug 6, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now, to your credit, I am much calmer.

Thank you, Skancho Danza, I shall forever be in your debt.

It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT

by rhythm on Aug 6, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

good lord.

Lineup for #WhiteSox at Bal: Pierre7, Lilli8, pk3, q9, kotsay dh, ram6, aj2, vic5, beck4. Danks pitching.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 6, 2010 4:04 PM CDT reply actions  

WTF is littlebridge doing in CF?!?

Don’t we have an actual CF this year?

It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT

by rhythm on Aug 6, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

i can see giving rios a day

but man this lineup looks weak… that being said the sox will probably score 12 today

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 6, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

probably will

the guy on the bump for b-more has a whip around 1.6 I think.

that one funny thing that guy said yesterday

by e-gus on Aug 6, 2010 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

@

hey swisher...........you know.

by BuehrleMan on Aug 6, 2010 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rios needs a day off.

DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 6, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rivers interrupted by Bridge

His name is Rios and he dances on the sand

by Nordhagen on Aug 6, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Perhaps you missed littlebridge's BABIP

he rules.

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Aug 6, 2010 4:09 PM CDT reply actions  

reply fail

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Aug 6, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

new handle: lillibridgerules

His name is Rios and he dances on the sand

by Nordhagen on Aug 6, 2010 4:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

let it be written

let it be so

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Aug 6, 2010 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

m

hey swisher...........you know.

by BuehrleMan on Aug 6, 2010 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is that an Asian "Barely Legal?"

Or the author’s actual name?

"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose

by Teahenny Penny on Aug 6, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

No wonder Wieters is having such a down season.

what a terrible swing, looks like he threw the bat too.

by jimmyjr on Aug 6, 2010 4:18 PM CDT reply actions  

HA!

And here I thought he was avoiding a tag at home ;)

It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT

by rhythm on Aug 6, 2010 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

I gotta admit.

I never watched the wire. I’ve tried to time it to where i catch the first season…but it never happens.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Aug 6, 2010 4:18 PM CDT reply actions  

Season 4 would be right up your alley, no joke.

DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY

by Ozzie Montana on Aug 6, 2010 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

nice preview u-god

lets kick some ass!

"I haven’t gotten to where I am by giving up easily." - Ari Gold

by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 6, 2010 4:39 PM CDT reply actions  

lets pounce on dem birds

"The trouble with baseball is that the player who knows how to bat and field the best is sitting in the bleachers" or on sss!?!

by Grinder Rule #42 on Aug 6, 2010 4:56 PM CDT reply actions  

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