Beckham, Sox Pitching Not Enough To Stop O's Juggernaut
by The Cheat on Aug 6, 2010 9:47 PM CDT
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PrintWhite Sox pitching threw a shutout Friday night... and they still lost.
OK. It wasn't actually a shutout, but for 9+ innings they didn't allow any runs.
John Danks opened the game by allowing three consecutive singles, but held the Orioles in check for the rest of the night. Although the O's made him work for it. Danks' career high 120th pitch was a strikeout to end the 7th, leaving him locked in a 1-1 tie.
From there it was Tony Pena's job to shut down the O's, and clean up Chris Sale's mess. Sale made his major league debut in the 8th inning of a tie game -- clearly Ozzie wanted to use the ass-end of his pen following a couple games of turning to the Thornton/Putz/Jenks crew -- and promptly walked the first batter he saw on 4 pitches. It's tough to say whether he settled down, because he only lasted for 3 more pitches before allowing a single and getting pulled in favor of Pena.
Pena put in a solid night's work getting out of a bases loaded jam in the 8th with a lineout, popout and strikeout, but he wasn't done there. He came on back out for the 9th and sent the game to extras... and was called upon one too many times, unable to record the third out of the 10th.
Normally extra innings losses are cause for a lot of vitriol directed at the losing pitcher, but it's hard to say anything bad about Pena after that outing. Though some tried. He's been called on time and time again in these surprise extended outings, and more often than not he's delivered an equally surprising number of zeros. Pena got out of one huge jam, then gave the Sox another opportunity to put up runs to win the game. Can't ask for much more than that.
Well, an offense maybe. But that's another post.
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Great pitching, shitty offense.
The theme of the season.
gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok
which puts us 15 games over .500
Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''
Hey our great pitching usually overpowers other shitty offenses.
What more can you ask for? Maybe some runs. Maybe.
gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok
by omnipotent grab on Aug 6, 2010 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
when you throw everything you have at pitching and halfass the offense
games like this are bound to happen
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
also, fire greg walker
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
Seriously.
His whole gameplan is let (player) be (player) and have them figure it out on their own. Not a coach at all. No wonder it yook so long for Becks to come back. Just like Joe Crede had to figure it out on his own, even if he was master of the pop up.
gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok
by omnipotent grab on Aug 6, 2010 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Took*
Damn you drink.
gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok
by omnipotent grab on Aug 6, 2010 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions
you know you're in trouble
When Mark Kotsay is looking like your most dangerous hitter in the lineup. Too much first pitch swinging from the rest of the guys. And too much swinging at everything from the Tank. Send him down and don’t bring him back up until he draws at least one walk.
At least we’re still one up. Hudson is looking like one of the best pitchers in the entire NL West though.
by Wayne Nordhagen on Aug 6, 2010 10:13 PM CDT reply actions
You never know but give it some time and see what happens
Ely looked pretty dominant in that division for a while.
Everyone knows he struggles against RH pitching
Ozzie has done a nice job so far of using him in situations he can handle.
Omar needed a night off though, so there you go.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
by Chiburb on Aug 7, 2010 7:03 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
A succinct recap
- Camden Yards is great, and tonight was a perfect night for baseball — ~85 with a teasing breeze.
- I thought I liked clams more than I really do. Oh well. They weren’t bad, but damn they’re salty.
- Yuengling! On tap! Everywhere!
thursdays in athens is $1 yuengling bottles at most bars
i love this town
"Sure I steal bases. I just like to do it 4 at a time." -Konerko-
by oneloyaldawg on Aug 7, 2010 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Yuengling on draft
is great. I seek it out when on the seaboard.
Yuengling (or any beer) in the green bottle tastes like skunk piss.
Best game I ever attended was the 163rd game of 2008.
by NorthSidePaulie on Aug 7, 2010 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions
not to pile on the Thome bandwagon
But with how great the Sox have been this year, a strictly righty matchup DH Thome (which is what Kotsay is) would have already put us up by several games in the Central
Also Quentin as permanent DH isn't a bad idea
that dude has absolutely no future as a player in the field. Way too intense
by All Soxed Up on Aug 6, 2010 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, but convince Ozzie of that
He’s gone on record saying Quentin can’t permaDH because he needs to keep himself busy. I say stick him at DH and give him a book of super hard sudokus and a rubix cube for the down time.
http://www.post-trib.com/sports/2529624,bba-sox-notes-0724.article
by Grindy McGrinderson on Aug 7, 2010 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
I think thats an older quote
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
it's two weeks old
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
oh, I thought he was repeating the same thing ozzie said like two years ago
thats unfortunate
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
I sure wish it was
it was from that Oakland series where we first got Braden’d. Damn you, Buehrle, Jr.
by Grindy McGrinderson on Aug 7, 2010 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I blame the bats of Q, Viciedo and Ramirez for this loss...very unclutch performances
Mark Teahen peed in my canteen.
by SavePeavytill2010 on Aug 6, 2010 11:41 PM CDT reply actions
first time in a awhile the offense has blew a game.
oh well, pick it up tmr, didn’t lose any ground in the standings.
OTish
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
looked around and found something even better
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
So vodka.
Wife and daughter are sleeping (for now).
Thank you Cleveland for being good against our division and terrible against everybody else. Two vodka y tonics and a vodka martini and I’m officially a little unsober.
This game was aggravating on several levels but I walk away not feeling the least bit of contempt for one Tony Pena, who did his job admirably. I blame the following individuals. Carlos Quentin for swinging at the first pitch that late in the game and John Peters (or Juan Pierre for the uninitiated) for not being able to be more clutchy late in the game. And for that matter everyone not named Mark Kotsay or Gordon Beckham. Also… vodka.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
by Hazymania on Aug 7, 2010 12:09 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Hear, hear.
"We can't do it easy. But we may as well do it high." -The Cheat
by South Side Expat on Aug 7, 2010 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah not paying attention at third base makes Mark Kotsay clutch
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
Don't argue with me boy!
I VODKA!
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
Don’t look at me, I’m retired!
chicago tribune commenters at their finest
DonMerkIe at 11:02 PM August 06, 2010
Everybody said you can’t count on Rios when you need Rios, and it sure looks like everybody was right.
How much is this guy getting? Let’s throw him back on waivers and see if some other sucker picks him up.
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
Did anyone ever engage in YouTube comments? Reading those can make you lose hope for humanity.
DANIEL HUDSON SUCKS. HOWS THAT GUN BAN WORKING FOR YOU MAYOR DALLY
by Ozzie Montana on Aug 7, 2010 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
This is 9th circle of hell bad posting.
I’d like to find this Don Merkle and make him eat spoiled chicken salad sandwiches for his trouble and flat pepsi-colas.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
I have half a mind to do just that
I do love the russians and their fine potato liquors
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
wait, there was a fanpost on getting ichiro from the seattle shipwrecks today that was cloaked?
party poopers
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
How do you know the author didn't delete it?
by homesickalien on Aug 7, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
it deserved to be deleted.
it was a comment under the guise of being a fan shot.
hey swisher...........you know.
I just guessed
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
CHEAT!
Get over it.
Edwin Jackson is better than Dan Hudson anyways.
Its not the end of the world, and Edwin isnt the guy who broke your bones.
I dont have loolapalollaza tickets either.
Its not the end of teh world.
relax.
another TP meet up might be in order.
Tinley park, not teehannyspenny, although on second thought he should come too.
TP in TP 2010.
Lets do ti!
that one funny thing that guy said yesterday
That was actually a pretty positive post from him.
Must be back on the meds.
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
by Chiburb on Aug 7, 2010 7:04 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Back on the Old Style, more likely.
But I am in for the TP meetup….
“Where the white women at?”
"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok
by DrEmilioLizardo on Aug 7, 2010 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Heineken
yet I was somehow able to take out the competition at the poker table in that condition.
that one funny thing that guy said yesterday
Take them out?
They gave you their addresses?
"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose
by Teahenny Penny on Aug 7, 2010 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions
excellent time stamp.
"We can't do it easy. But we may as well do it high." -The Cheat
by South Side Expat on Aug 7, 2010 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions
SSS: We've been drinkin' again...
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
Maybe this year I actually show up!
Maybe not…
"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112
when and where?
i’m tired of these subliminals, if you got something to say, then say it.
"I haven’t gotten to where I am by giving up easily." - Ari Gold
by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 7, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
cheat, you might consider taking another vacation
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 7, 2010 6:32 AM CDT reply actions
yes
Seemed to work before. Plus yesterday was the first day I changed my underwear in a month due to the in laws coming over. Rally undies!
"Jenks, who was never afraid to say "no" to a hamburger..."
by BobbySouthSide on Aug 7, 2010 8:19 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
i think this is wear hoodie posts a jpg of a half-naked chic
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 7, 2010 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions
which is preferable to carl weathers imo
This is like having Marshall Faulk on your fantasy football team in 2000 and screwing up the rest of your draft to finish 7th.
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 7, 2010 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions
Kinda O/T, and at the risk of being the man
Apparently Coop thinks Strasberg is headed toward Mark Prior/Kerry Wood type problems…
“I am not wishing this guy bad, but for him to be having problems right now when they are really, really watching him what are they going to see when they are trying to get 220 innings from him? He does something with his arm action that is difficult, in my mind, to pitch a whole lot of innings on.”
…
“It reminds me a little bit of Kerry Wood, a little bit of Mark Prior. I hope I’m wrong about this,” said Cooper, whose White Sox were held to one run over seven innings by Strasburg in his third major-league start. “When you throw with the kind of talent and force that he can throw, you can break easier than let’s say a Mark Buehrle type.”
Cooper also said, “It’s very difficult to change arm action, so no I don’t think you can do that.”
yep. you are indeed the man.
but you really can’t expect any different when you’re posting a link from 9 days ago. ; )
hey swisher...........you know.
there was a conversation a while back that started here.
don cooper says this is only the beginning for strasburg and shoulder problems
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/more_sports/white_sox_pitching_coach_strasburg_VGtdBzYO4ruvngTMzC70cP
by larry on Jul 29, 2010 11:00 AM CDT reply actions
hey swisher...........you know.
(strasburg cooper would have worked)
hey swisher...........you know.
by BuehrleMan on Aug 7, 2010 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
make sure you spell shit right next time to prevent being youdamanned
gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok
by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Last night's game
The offense is going to have a bad game once and a while. However, what made me angry about last night’s game was that the Orioles starter had an era close to 6 and we could only score one run. And our pitcher only gave up one run. It’s not like we were facing Cliff Lee or some other outstanding pitcher.
AJ needs to kick it up some.
Brad Bergesen enjoys pitching against the AL Central
Career 4-3 with ERA in mid 2s
by 3E8 on Aug 7, 2010 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions
i'm surprised at your lack of faith.
use a lengthy quote, re-hash scouting reports on recent draft picks, throw together a few stat lines and i’ve got myself a legitimate post.
so thats all it takes to have a "program"
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
Grinder Bash
Wow. It was really fun to be able to sit in the dugout etc. A unique afternoon.
Comonnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn You White Sox!
I'm curious what you guys got that the Tribune Press event didn't...
But hells yeah, sitting in a dugout is just a GREAT feeling!
"We can't do it easy. But we may as well do it high." -The Cheat
by South Side Expat on Aug 7, 2010 11:33 PM CDT up reply actions
So after yesterday's loss
Danks and Floyd now sit at exactly 3.9 WAR for the year. Plugging in Jackson’s number the projected pace for the starters is still roughly between 19-20 WAR.
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
Some pinhead calling into The Score
Ripped Ozzie for managing away the game (maybe), then said there were “8 games just like this,” before saying Minnesota “never makes these mistakes.”
That means the person who kept Guerrier in the game last night in Cleveland was “Not Me” from Family Circus, instead of Ron Gardenhire.
Then – the guy suggested the team bunt more.
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
DonMerkle?
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
Red Sox got Delgado
according to MLBTR. Eh, I’m ambivalent. Not like you can get rid of the hot hand of kotsaydh anyhow.
by Grindy McGrinderson on Aug 7, 2010 11:39 AM CDT reply actions
they sure hate Lowell over there in Beantown don’t they
by StankyDankster on Aug 7, 2010 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions
If only they wouldn't go to the park.
Currently 75 posts on Gamethread at BleedCubbieBlue thru 2 2/3.
"....we have to find a way to win. And good teams do that."
Tomas Kopecky May 29, 2010
Waiver claims
I don’t know how much Delgado would help now. Injured in May 09 and it always takes a while to get timing where it needs to be.
Pena did a great job last night. His 8th inning had BHB written all over it. Who wanted to send him down to make room for Teahen again?
(Mark Kotsays, present yourselves!)
Did Sale have very good movement on his fastball?
I didn’t see the game or highlights but did look at MLB Gameday while Sale was pitching. Their numbers indicated lots of movement on his fastball (wild high as they might have been).
Anyone know if Sale’s fastball really does move alot?
by Dick Allen's batting helmet on Aug 7, 2010 1:11 PM CDT reply actions
the pitch itself was good
everything else from the control to his bling was shite
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
Travis Snider - 6' 0", 235 lbs. leading off for the Blue Jays.
"....we have to find a way to win. And good teams do that."
Tomas Kopecky May 29, 2010
Its better than the Kotsay leadoff experiment.
''I'm not in the gym every morning now for the Cy Young. I want what the boys did in 2005. I want that dog pile, that memory, that ring.''
by TheIronSchenk on Aug 7, 2010 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions
That really happened?
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
I must have repressed it
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
On May 2nd
I tweeted
Mark Kotsay batting leadoff? Oy Vey.
So, yes.
''I'm not in the gym every morning now for the Cy Young. I want what the boys did in 2005. I want that dog pile, that memory, that ring.''
If the internet said it, it must be true!
It’s like Obama’s birth certificate all over again!!!
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
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