This Week in White Sox Minor League Baseball
This week:
- Mark Teahen began his rehab assignment at Charlotte. As one should expect from a major league baseball player, he hasn't had much trouble with the lower level: .533/.652/.600 in 22 plate appearances. So far, he's either DHed or been at 3B. He'd probably be ready to return to the White Sox early next week, though the club technically has 20 days from the start of his rehab assignment on July 31 until they have to bring him up.
- 2010 third round pick Thomas Royse left his most recent start after just an inning due to a tender elbow. No further word on the severity of the injury.
- Brent Morel: .305/.339/.444.
- John Sickels reviewed his preseason White Sox Top 20 Prospects. If anything, his assessment of the system is even more damning than mine from last week. He's still skeptical about Dayan Viciedo, though he continues to hold out hope for Jordan Danks.
- Gregory Infante got some press this week from Baseball America, which picked a dozen top bullpen prospects: "With a 94-98 mph fastball, Infante has one of the best pure arms in the organization. His curveball needs to be more consistent—at times it’s a knockout, swing-and-miss pitch in the low-80s, other times he loses the tight rotation and leaves them out as hangers. With 57 strikeouts in 48 2/3 innings between high Class A Winston-Salem and Birmingham, Infante has the stuff to pitch key innings in a big league bullpen once he refines his secondary stuff and tightens his control."
- Andre Rienzo: 71.2 IP, 70 H, 23 BB, 84 K.
- Jacob Petricka, 2010 second round pick, joined Rienzo in Kannapolis after a predictably dominating spell at Bristol by the 22 year old: 8 GS, 34.2 IP, 25 H, 7 BB, 38 K. He's got a good fastball and a good enough and developing curve. How his changeup progresses will dictate his future.
- Addison Reed, who was also picked in the 2010 third round, is the final of the quartet of pitchers the White Sox selected to open their draft. They're taking it slow with him and limiting his innings after he took nearly all of July off. His results have also been predictable for a 21 year old: 14 IP, 11 H, 2 BB, 21 K. Reed spent his first two years at San Diego State as a reliever, including his sophomore season as Stephen Strasburg's closer. He was somewhat surprisingly transitioned to a starter his junior year but it was a successful move. The White Sox will probably develop him as a starter but his long-term home may be back in the pen.
- Brandon Short: .313/.358/.490.
Programming note: This column will be off next week.
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and I'm on the road for another weekend (sorry lare)
Gone to get my ass kicked by nordhagen up in wisky.
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by The Cheat on Aug 7, 2010 11:12 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
yes!
hellooo winning streak!
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
by blackoutsox on Aug 7, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Gotta rec this.
"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112
E Jackson could also have the upside of helping to woo
Carl Crawford to Chicago.
It seems the only logical explanation.
''I'm not in the gym every morning now for the Cy Young. I want what the boys did in 2005. I want that dog pile, that memory, that ring.''
by TheIronSchenk on Aug 7, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
Is Brandon Short Top 20 worthy?
"He’s probably got some of the fastest hands we have in the organization. He’s extremely quick. He probably has the ability to hit 15-20 homeruns at some point. He’s another guy who has made tremendous adjustments. He’s a guy who can be a leadoff-type guy. Right now he’s driving the ball. He has some speed, but he’s really putting it together this year. I don’t know if he’ll ever hit 25 or 30 or those kind of numbers, but he definitely has a little bit of power. Maybe 15 is more realistic at some point."
http://www.thesportsbank.net/chicago-white-sox/white-sox-prospects-under-the-radar-names/
you know what's painful?
seein shit you transcribed followed by a link to another site (though Paul was nice enough to thank me in an e-mail)
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
Wow, what a dick.
gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok
by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I've been creepin more than posting,
and I have seen that interview referenced 3 times now…. 2 times referencing to the sports bank…
I can’t wait to start posting hard hitting information that i got on this site.. on this site…
It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.
They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.
it's honestly maddening
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
Understandable.
gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok
by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions
ugh.
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck." - OG
by homesickalien on Aug 7, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions
truly, i do not root for people to get injured, but this struck me very funny for some reason.
With Lance Berkman taking his cuts, Rodriguez was manning third base when a hard-hit ball off the bat of Berkman struck the New York slugger just below the left knee. Rodriguez stumbled into center field and collapsed face down behind a protective screen, holding his head while writhing in pain.
hey swisher...........you know.
by BuehrleMan on Aug 7, 2010 1:45 PM CDT reply actions 3 recs
because it makes no sense
he stumbles from third to center field and holds his head writhing? lold
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
So....does this bode well for Teahen's return?
That Spring Training slump carried into the regular season. He didn’t really start hitting until just before he got hurt.
Does this mean we can expect him to not be terrible when he returns?
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
How does a team change its minor league system?
Larry, thanks for another good update. Observers have long noted how thin the White Sox farm system is. Several questions emerge from this.
1) Why is it so bad; 2) HOw likely is that to change, 3) how does a team go about changing its farm system, and 4) how long does it take to rebuild and reorient it?
I ask out of pure ignorance, and hoping that some of you MiLB watchers can provide some insight. I sure hope it’s easier than spotting that creature in the photograph above.
I don't know that the organization CAN change given who is at the head of the thing.
Given KW’s penchant for trading his chips in for “proven vets” it makes it difficult to build and sustain a farm.
At least that’s my take on the matter.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
So, it's management philosophy.
Focus on winning at the ML level at the expense of building depth in the system. Would building a farm system require taking a wrecking ball to the ML team and trading chips for well-scouted young talent rather than “proven vets”? If so, would fans be willing to be patient?
Yes.
No.
''I'm not in the gym every morning now for the Cy Young. I want what the boys did in 2005. I want that dog pile, that memory, that ring.''
by TheIronSchenk on Aug 7, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I couldn't care less if KW keeps trading prospects in order to keep a competitive team.
That being said, 2013 presents a real problem with starting pitching. Buehrle, Danks and Floyd could all be gone leaving only Peavy and his $22M option which will never be picked up. Right now, there are no major league ready starters and very little hope for them short term.
I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok
Im not exactly worried about that
unless organizational preference changes methinks the starting pitching will be okay. Some of this stuff was said in 07 and look now.
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
The Yankees and Boston have both been able to develop their own talent without hurting their odds of winning.
Good talent evaluation, some luck on the risk/reward front and good development is whats needed. Also not trading away all your good prospects for expensive rentals helps.
gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok
by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Having limitless money will also help.
gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok
by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions
This.
''I'm not in the gym every morning now for the Cy Young. I want what the boys did in 2005. I want that dog pile, that memory, that ring.''
by TheIronSchenk on Aug 7, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
There's always a significant degree of luck involved, I guess
Just look at how many of those 13th first round picks whoh never made it that posted in a thread earlier this week.
Two things that the Sox should be able to control are talent evaluation and talent development. Are these notoriously weak in the Sox system?
it takes time to build one
after so many years of poor drafts. Also it depends on type of talent drafted. International is still weak and some of the recent talent has been closer to mlb ready. The Sox rarely trade their “good” prospects for rentals.
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
Boston has had their fair share of questionable trades involving highly rated prospects for rentals. Like you said though, they can just throw money at their mistakes the following off-season and not skip a beat.
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Aug 7, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions
there are a few factors at play here
1.) As noted above, KW looooves trading prospects for proven vets, which is perhaps the biggest factor.
2.) In tandem with 1 is that the Sox have recently started jetting prospects up the ranks. I like how they are pushing their prospects to I won’t complain, but the system would look a lot nicer with say Gordon Beckham and Chris Sale still working their way through the minors.
3.) The Sox are an awkwardly sized team in terms of market. Yes they are in Chicago which results in a larger payroll, but it limits the amount of money they can pour into others aspects of the organization like development and drafting.
4.) Jerry doesn’t got overslot in the draft. That limits the talent available to the Sox in the draft. As it stands the Sox won’t be able to pick up some talent like the Tigers did Porcello.
5.) Not now so as much before, but I question the ability of the Sox farm system to develop their position players. I think it has gotten a bit better but still isn’t top notch (someone more in the know please elaborate or refute this contention). This also could come down to resources.
If your eyes glazed over on that list here’s a simple way to put it. The Sox system would look good if it was filled with the likes of Clayton Richard, Aaron Poreda, Dexter Carter, Brandon Allen, Gordon Beckham, Chris Sale, Dayan Viciedo, and Daniel Hudson. Through trades, pushing of prospects, and needs at the major league level that talent has had to leave the Sox system.
I think one of the most glaring aspects of the Sox system is that it is barren but rather that it never holds anything of value for long. Either the good prospects are pushed to the bigs or are shipped out. This is fine, but could spell doom if the Sox have a rash of injuries like what has plagued the Red Sox.
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
Injuries to prospects also being a big issue.
Mitchell still out and Jose Martinez just coming back after a couple of missed seasons doesnt help any.
gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok
by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
I think injuries are part of bad luck that can hurt any farm system.
Thanks Jeeves for the elaboration. I hope someone can expand the point you raise in number 5.
you can't do both??
3.) The Sox are an awkwardly sized team in terms of market. Yes they are in Chicago which results in a larger payroll, but it limits the amount of money they can pour into others aspects of the organization like development and drafting.
It would seems that more money means more spending across the board. it would be an organizational choice not to spend overslot, trade prospects, etc
Praise Him!!
Agreed.
gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok
by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
as things stand, I don't think the Sox can do both
they are as often stated the second team in the second city. They’re finances, I don’t think, are strong enough to pump large amounts of money into both payroll and player development (in terms of draft and international spending/scouting)
The Sox are currently bumping against their financial ceiling, unless that is the whole Johnny Damon thing was a big lie
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
which reminds me
6) The Sox don’t spend big bucks on the international market. Yes they have gotten Alexei and Dayan but they came over in a bargain basement price and a fairly cheap deal respectively.
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
overslot is an organizational choice
but i question whether they still would spend the extremely large amounts of money that are needed to grab the first round picks that start falling down the board. The Sox have done better recently in grabbing players in later rounds by paying overslot like trayce thompson, but again a Porcello situation wouldn’t happen in Chicago.
if the sox can spend money across the board why do they spend such little resources on international scouting and international academies? They clearly value international players as they have found some good undervalued players, iguchi and ramirez to name two. They are not, though, big players for the top international prospects, a realm where there is no slot system
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
White Sox Minor League Baseball.

gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok
Stupidity would be a big factor.
gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok
by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
ah yes, i overlooked stupidity
silly me
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
Peer pressure be my best guess.
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck." - OG
by homesickalien on Aug 7, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Time to get some new peers.
gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok
by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, but the whole stupidity factor you mentioned... these things are not unrelated.
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck." - OG
by homesickalien on Aug 7, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Indeed.
gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok
by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions
drunk
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
The same thing that leads to being a buisness partner of wu's, it would seem.
"We can't do it easy. But we may as well do it high." -The Cheat
by South Side Expat on Aug 7, 2010 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Rec.
gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok
by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Pierre lf
Vizquel 3b
Rios cf
Konerko 1b
Quentin rf
Kotsay dh
Ramirez ss
Pierzynski c
Beckham 2b
Floyd p
shitty, ok, struggling, very good, ok, shitty but hitting well, pretty good, very shitty, pretty good.
oh…and very good for Floyd
by stanchar on Aug 7, 2010 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
pierre has been hitting well
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
don't know what you been watching but
.377/.464/.472 last 14 days on fire!
"it’s over, tdogg.
no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry
Literally!
gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok
by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
since it's stanchar the stats for the game will be as follows:
Pierre: 2-4, 2SB
vVzquel: 1-4, RBI
Rios: 3-4, 2B, RBI, SB
Konerko: 0-4, 2K, GIDP, 1 TM EYEORE
Quentin: 1-4, 2B, RBI 8 swears
Kotsay:1-4, 3B, RBI
Ramirez: 0-3, K, BB, Error
Pierzynksi: 2-2, 2HR, 2 BB
Beckham: 5-3, 5 HR….Beckham is immune to getting Stanchar’d , as are Gavin’s BHBs, though I question the rest of him
-Jeeves Life in the Cell
by jeeves on Aug 7, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
is this the current clt AAA line-up?
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 8, 2010 6:01 AM CDT up reply actions
Wheres the like button at?
gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok
by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
does this mean our minor league updates will scores again
Programming note: This column will be off next week.
thanks to whoever it was that filed in admirably last time?
that one funny thing that guy said yesterday
with*
gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok
by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Cough medicine has my reading and writing a little off.
Makes the world go round.
gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok
by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions
for me the problem is my 28 wpm type skills cant keep up with my 80 wpm brain.
that one funny thing that guy said yesterday
coffeepac I think
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
he did an awesome job too
something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.
-MarketMaker
thank you!
but larry has not asked for anyone to do the scores this time. He might just be out on Wednesday.
Wednesday? wtf?
Saturday. Also: I may not currently possess the mental power to transcript scores. Can’t even get days of the week correct.

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