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This Week in White Sox Minor League Baseball

This week:

  • Mark Teahen began his rehab assignment at Charlotte.  As one should expect from a major league baseball player, he hasn't had much trouble with the lower level: .533/.652/.600 in 22 plate appearances.  So far, he's either DHed or been at 3B.  He'd probably be ready to return to the White Sox early next week, though the club technically has 20 days from the start of his rehab assignment on July 31 until they have to bring him up.
  • 2010 third round pick Thomas Royse left his most recent start after just an inning due to a tender elbow.  No further word on the severity of the injury.
  • Brent Morel: .305/.339/.444.
  • John Sickels reviewed his preseason White Sox Top 20 Prospects.  If anything, his assessment of the system is even more damning than mine from last week.  He's still skeptical about Dayan Viciedo, though he continues to hold out hope for Jordan Danks.
  • Gregory Infante got some press this week from Baseball America, which picked a dozen top bullpen prospects: "With a 94-98 mph fastball, Infante has one of the best pure arms in the organization. His curveball needs to be more consistent—at times it’s a knockout, swing-and-miss pitch in the low-80s, other times he loses the tight rotation and leaves them out as hangers. With 57 strikeouts in 48 2/3 innings between high Class A Winston-Salem and Birmingham, Infante has the stuff to pitch key innings in a big league bullpen once he refines his secondary stuff and tightens his control."
  • Andre Rienzo: 71.2 IP, 70 H, 23 BB, 84 K.
  • Jacob Petricka, 2010 second round pick, joined Rienzo in Kannapolis after a predictably dominating spell at Bristol by the 22 year old: 8 GS, 34.2 IP, 25 H, 7 BB, 38 K.  He's got a good fastball and a good enough and developing curve.  How his changeup progresses will dictate his future.
  • Addison Reed, who was also picked in the 2010 third round, is the final of the quartet of pitchers the White Sox selected to open their draft.  They're taking it slow with him and limiting his innings after he took nearly all of July off.  His results have also been predictable for a 21 year old: 14 IP, 11 H, 2 BB, 21 K.  Reed spent his first two years at San Diego State as a reliever, including his sophomore season as Stephen Strasburg's closer.  He was somewhat surprisingly transitioned to a starter his junior year but it was a successful move.  The White Sox will probably develop him as a starter but his long-term home may be back in the pen.
  • Brandon Short: .313/.358/.490.

Programming note: This column will be off next week.

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"I'll worry about the shit rooster they put together because they have no money"
- joewho112

by RWShow on Aug 7, 2010 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

If its not me, it'll be Garfoot Rd.

His name is Rios and he dances on the sand

by Nordhagen on Aug 7, 2010 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is Brandon Short Top 20 worthy?
"He’s probably got some of the fastest hands we have in the organization. He’s extremely quick. He probably has the ability to hit 15-20 homeruns at some point. He’s another guy who has made tremendous adjustments. He’s a guy who can be a leadoff-type guy. Right now he’s driving the ball. He has some speed, but he’s really putting it together this year. I don’t know if he’ll ever hit 25 or 30 or those kind of numbers, but he definitely has a little bit of power. Maybe 15 is more realistic at some point."

http://www.thesportsbank.net/chicago-white-sox/white-sox-prospects-under-the-radar-names/

by PaulieK14 on Aug 7, 2010 12:42 PM CDT reply actions  

sure.

that’s not exactly a high bar in this system.

by larry on Aug 7, 2010 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

you know what's painful?

seein shit you transcribed followed by a link to another site (though Paul was nice enough to thank me in an e-mail)

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Aug 7, 2010 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow, what a dick.

gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok

by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've been creepin more than posting,

and I have seen that interview referenced 3 times now…. 2 times referencing to the sports bank…

I can’t wait to start posting hard hitting information that i got on this site.. on this site…

It's called Sex Panther by Odeon. It's illegal in nine countries... Yep, it's made with bits of real panther, so you know it's good.

They've done studies, you know. 60% of the time it works, every time.

by ElDiablo on Aug 7, 2010 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

it's honestly maddening

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Aug 7, 2010 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Understandable.

gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok

by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

ugh.

"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck." - OG

by homesickalien on Aug 7, 2010 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

because it makes no sense

he stumbles from third to center field and holds his head writhing? lold

something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.

-MarketMaker

by blackoutsox on Aug 7, 2010 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

So....does this bode well for Teahen's return?

That Spring Training slump carried into the regular season. He didn’t really start hitting until just before he got hurt.

Does this mean we can expect him to not be terrible when he returns?

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Aug 7, 2010 2:51 PM CDT reply actions  

How does a team change its minor league system?

Larry, thanks for another good update. Observers have long noted how thin the White Sox farm system is. Several questions emerge from this.

1) Why is it so bad; 2) HOw likely is that to change, 3) how does a team go about changing its farm system, and 4) how long does it take to rebuild and reorient it?

I ask out of pure ignorance, and hoping that some of you MiLB watchers can provide some insight. I sure hope it’s easier than spotting that creature in the photograph above.

by VAChisox on Aug 7, 2010 3:22 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't know that the organization CAN change given who is at the head of the thing.

Given KW’s penchant for trading his chips in for “proven vets” it makes it difficult to build and sustain a farm.

At least that’s my take on the matter.

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Aug 7, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

So, it's management philosophy.

Focus on winning at the ML level at the expense of building depth in the system. Would building a farm system require taking a wrecking ball to the ML team and trading chips for well-scouted young talent rather than “proven vets”? If so, would fans be willing to be patient?

by VAChisox on Aug 7, 2010 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes.

No.

''I'm not in the gym every morning now for the Cy Young. I want what the boys did in 2005. I want that dog pile, that memory, that ring.''

by TheIronSchenk on Aug 7, 2010 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I couldn't care less if KW keeps trading prospects in order to keep a competitive team.

That being said, 2013 presents a real problem with starting pitching. Buehrle, Danks and Floyd could all be gone leaving only Peavy and his $22M option which will never be picked up. Right now, there are no major league ready starters and very little hope for them short term.

I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok

by mick10 on Aug 7, 2010 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Im not exactly worried about that

unless organizational preference changes methinks the starting pitching will be okay. Some of this stuff was said in 07 and look now.

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Aug 7, 2010 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

2013 sounds horrible

thank god john cusack will have killed us all by then

Praise Him!!

by Hawk is God on Aug 7, 2010 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Yankees and Boston have both been able to develop their own talent without hurting their odds of winning.

Good talent evaluation, some luck on the risk/reward front and good development is whats needed. Also not trading away all your good prospects for expensive rentals helps.

gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok

by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Having limitless money will also help.

gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok

by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

This.

''I'm not in the gym every morning now for the Cy Young. I want what the boys did in 2005. I want that dog pile, that memory, that ring.''

by TheIronSchenk on Aug 7, 2010 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's always a significant degree of luck involved, I guess

Just look at how many of those 13th first round picks whoh never made it that posted in a thread earlier this week.

Two things that the Sox should be able to control are talent evaluation and talent development. Are these notoriously weak in the Sox system?

by VAChisox on Aug 7, 2010 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

it takes time to build one

after so many years of poor drafts. Also it depends on type of talent drafted. International is still weak and some of the recent talent has been closer to mlb ready. The Sox rarely trade their “good” prospects for rentals.

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Aug 7, 2010 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Boston has had their fair share of questionable trades involving highly rated prospects for rentals. Like you said though, they can just throw money at their mistakes the following off-season and not skip a beat.

FifthFeather.com

by El Duque's Raft on Aug 7, 2010 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

there are a few factors at play here

1.) As noted above, KW looooves trading prospects for proven vets, which is perhaps the biggest factor.

2.) In tandem with 1 is that the Sox have recently started jetting prospects up the ranks. I like how they are pushing their prospects to I won’t complain, but the system would look a lot nicer with say Gordon Beckham and Chris Sale still working their way through the minors.

3.) The Sox are an awkwardly sized team in terms of market. Yes they are in Chicago which results in a larger payroll, but it limits the amount of money they can pour into others aspects of the organization like development and drafting.

4.) Jerry doesn’t got overslot in the draft. That limits the talent available to the Sox in the draft. As it stands the Sox won’t be able to pick up some talent like the Tigers did Porcello.

5.) Not now so as much before, but I question the ability of the Sox farm system to develop their position players. I think it has gotten a bit better but still isn’t top notch (someone more in the know please elaborate or refute this contention). This also could come down to resources.

If your eyes glazed over on that list here’s a simple way to put it. The Sox system would look good if it was filled with the likes of Clayton Richard, Aaron Poreda, Dexter Carter, Brandon Allen, Gordon Beckham, Chris Sale, Dayan Viciedo, and Daniel Hudson. Through trades, pushing of prospects, and needs at the major league level that talent has had to leave the Sox system.

I think one of the most glaring aspects of the Sox system is that it is barren but rather that it never holds anything of value for long. Either the good prospects are pushed to the bigs or are shipped out. This is fine, but could spell doom if the Sox have a rash of injuries like what has plagued the Red Sox.

by jeeves on Aug 7, 2010 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Injuries to prospects also being a big issue.

Mitchell still out and Jose Martinez just coming back after a couple of missed seasons doesnt help any.

gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok

by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think injuries are part of bad luck that can hurt any farm system.

Thanks Jeeves for the elaboration. I hope someone can expand the point you raise in number 5.

by VAChisox on Aug 7, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

you can't do both??
3.) The Sox are an awkwardly sized team in terms of market. Yes they are in Chicago which results in a larger payroll, but it limits the amount of money they can pour into others aspects of the organization like development and drafting.

It would seems that more money means more spending across the board. it would be an organizational choice not to spend overslot, trade prospects, etc

Praise Him!!

by Hawk is God on Aug 7, 2010 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok

by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

as things stand, I don't think the Sox can do both

they are as often stated the second team in the second city. They’re finances, I don’t think, are strong enough to pump large amounts of money into both payroll and player development (in terms of draft and international spending/scouting)

The Sox are currently bumping against their financial ceiling, unless that is the whole Johnny Damon thing was a big lie

by jeeves on Aug 7, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

which reminds me

6) The Sox don’t spend big bucks on the international market. Yes they have gotten Alexei and Dayan but they came over in a bargain basement price and a fairly cheap deal respectively.

by jeeves on Aug 7, 2010 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

overslot is an organizational choice

but i question whether they still would spend the extremely large amounts of money that are needed to grab the first round picks that start falling down the board. The Sox have done better recently in grabbing players in later rounds by paying overslot like trayce thompson, but again a Porcello situation wouldn’t happen in Chicago.

if the sox can spend money across the board why do they spend such little resources on international scouting and international academies? They clearly value international players as they have found some good undervalued players, iguchi and ramirez to name two. They are not, though, big players for the top international prospects, a realm where there is no slot system

by jeeves on Aug 7, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

White Sox Minor League Baseball.

gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok

by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 4:35 PM CDT reply actions  

Stupidity would be a big factor.

gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok

by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Peer pressure be my best guess.

"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck." - OG

by homesickalien on Aug 7, 2010 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Time to get some new peers.

gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok

by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, but the whole stupidity factor you mentioned... these things are not unrelated.

"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck." - OG

by homesickalien on Aug 7, 2010 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Indeed.

gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok

by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

drunk

something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.

-MarketMaker

by blackoutsox on Aug 7, 2010 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec.

gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok

by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pierre lf

Vizquel 3b

Rios cf

Konerko 1b

Quentin rf

Kotsay dh

Ramirez ss

Pierzynski c

Beckham 2b

Floyd p

by larry on Aug 7, 2010 4:42 PM CDT reply actions  

pierre has been hitting well

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Aug 7, 2010 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

don't know what you been watching but

.377/.464/.472 last 14 days on fire!

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Aug 7, 2010 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Literally!

gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok

by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

is this the current clt AAA line-up?

"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Aug 8, 2010 6:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wheres the like button at?

gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok

by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

vg

"it’s over, tdogg.

no. it’s not unlike me. when i make an unqualified statement, it means i’m sure i’m right" Larry

by Tdogg on Aug 7, 2010 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

does this mean our minor league updates will scores again
Programming note: This column will be off next week.

thanks to whoever it was that filed in admirably last time?

that one funny thing that guy said yesterday

by e-gus on Aug 7, 2010 5:32 PM CDT reply actions  

*filled

that one funny thing that guy said yesterday

by e-gus on Aug 7, 2010 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

with*

gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok

by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

will have*

I photoshopped a boner on the security guard but it's too dark to see --- billyok

by mick10 on Aug 7, 2010 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Cough medicine has my reading and writing a little off.

Makes the world go round.

gavin’s getting lucky? guess he has luck herpes since it seems to pop up frequently and stick around once it does. - billyok

by omnipotent grab on Aug 7, 2010 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

coffeepac I think

something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.

-MarketMaker

by blackoutsox on Aug 7, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

he did an awesome job too

something tells me even the mafia wouldn't call on greg walker if a hit was needed.

-MarketMaker

by blackoutsox on Aug 7, 2010 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

thank you!

but larry has not asked for anyone to do the scores this time. He might just be out on Wednesday.

by coffeepac on Aug 7, 2010 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wednesday? wtf?

Saturday. Also: I may not currently possess the mental power to transcript scores. Can’t even get days of the week correct.

by coffeepac on Aug 7, 2010 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

I was like :
1. Does larry write these columns on wednesdays?
2. how does coffepac know that?

that one funny thing that guy said yesterday

by e-gus on Aug 7, 2010 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

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