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Flip-flopping BABIP With The Twins: Kenny Demands a Trade

At this point in the season, and after scoring so many runs in August, most people here would (or should) probably agree that the White Sox offense is getting the job done. After an impossibly brutal April in which the Sox posted a .225 Batting Average on Balls In Play, the balls steadily started to fall for hits. The numbers increased each month, with August containing a remarkable .333 BABIP, second highest in baseball. August brought the season average up to .290, but still places the Sox in the bottom third in baseball regarding BABIP. I doubt anyone will panic after reading that, especially given the past three years, but after seeing it compared to the Twins' .312 BABIP, which is near the top in the majors, I began to wonder what we could possibly be dealing with right now, given better numbers in this area. So I flipped a few things around, plugged in a couple numbers, and am now declaring the White Sox AL Central champs in Alternate Universe World.

First, some basic numbers, as of September 3rd:

MLB average BABIP, 2010 season to date: .298 The formula for BABIP, once again, is this:

H - HR / AB - K - HR + SF

White Sox BABIP: .290, given 1217 hits, 155 home runs, 4498 at-bats, 715 strikeouts and 33 sacrifice flies. Normalized to .298, this would add 29 hits. Given the Twins current BABIP, the Sox would add a not-insignificant 80 hits to date this season.

The Twins are tied for third in baseball with a .312 BABIP. This is calculated from their 1285 hits, 117 home runs, 4619 at-bats, 798 strikeouts and 43 sac flies. Bring this down to a league-average .298, and we can subtract 52 hits. Letting the Twins fall to our level would take away a total of 81 hits so far in 2010.

Star-divide

BABIP alone accounts for a possible in-the-park hit difference of 161 between the teams (1285 Twins hits/1217 Sox hits now vs. 1297 Sox hits/1204 Twins hits after the BABIP swap), leaving the Sox with +93 hits compared to the Twinkies. On top of that, switching this average would theoretically give the Sox 18 more extra base hits, and take 22 XBH away from the Twins, based on their respective non-HR XBH rates of 22.6 and 26.7. Even normalizing the BABIP to league-average for both teams gives the Sox a 13 hit advantage.

At this point, I couldn't help but think of our two favorite players of the past few months: Jim Thome and Mark Kotsay. Looking at their individual BABIP, I was surprised, but not overly so, that Kotsay is sitting at a paltry .242, the lowest of his career ( in 92 games, 291 ABs). What surprised me even more was his offensive numbers, after they had been normalized by factoring in a league average BABIP. Kotsay's career average is actually just one point below .298, including this season, so I only calculated this once. What we have here is a not-nearly-as-fan-murdering 85 hits (16 more than his 69 hits to date). We'll give him an extra three doubles, as doubles constitute about 22% of his hits this year. That would bolster his line to .292/.366/.443. Yep, that's an .809 OPS. For Mark Kotsay, the guy that has eaten the majority of the Sox DH at-bats.

Thome isn't as interesting, and suffers from fewer ABs due to his role as a pinch-hitter before Morneau went down (93 games, 235 ABs). Bring Thome down to a .298 BABIP and you can subtract a couple hits. Bring him up to his career level of .321 and a couple can be added. However, bring that BABIP down to Kotsay's 2010 level, and he would still out-DH Kotsay by a wide margin (note that Thome's career low is .273 for a full season, 2008) We end up with 53 hits, and a slash line of .225/.364/.536, almost 100 points higher than Jamie's husband performing in his element. Let's whale on this deceased stallion: No excuses, Kenny.  None.

A few notes: Yes, the individual BABIP numbers are subject to small sample size concerns, especially Thome. No, we shouldn't realistically expect Kotsay to rebound much, if at all. His ground ball rate is up, and his line drive rate down. As we've seen, he doesn't hit an inordinate amount of hangwiffums, and he's not exactly going to leg-out many infield hits, a la Juan.  On a positive note, those 715 strikeouts by the Sox? Yeah, those are good for second best in baseball, and it's not even close. In 3rd place? The Twins. A plausible reason for the Twins high ranking in the BABIP department? The spaciousness of Target Field, which is becoming known as a bit of a pitchers park, according to ESPN and ParkFactors.com. Grain of salt, and limited data for sure, but something to think about going forward.

Obviously, hits don't win games. Runs do. This is where I ran into some problems, and would appreciate being corrected/helped upon the finding of faults. I couldn't find an acceptable run value of context-neutral singles and doubles hit (for the sake of simplicity, triples were made into doubles), so I ended up applying the most extreme cases, the 80 hits added by the Sox and the 81 lost by the Twins, to the least impactful base state.  Tangotiger values a single at .29 runs and a double at .49 with no runners on base. At a bare minimum, with 18 doubles and 62 singles, that works out to 26.8 runs scored, good for 2.7 arbitrary wins. Likewise, the Twins would arbitrarily lose 2.8 games (subtract about 22 doubles and 59 singles, 27.9 runs) if their BABIP were lowered to .290. That's a difference of 5.5 games before the last month of the season, at least. The exercise of swapping BABIP with another team is admittedly ridiculous, but it highlights just one more deficiency, controlled or not, that could possibly cost the Sox a banner. I really just wanted to give people another reason to hate the DH mess KW has created for us (I'm a jerk like that), but also maybe pique some interest in park factors and luck in determining the final division standings. Whatever happens in the next 30 days, I think we can all agree that it's been a hell of a season, and the results can be fairly closely correlated to BABIP.

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oh shut up

none of this matters now. win the fucking games by any means necessary.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 5, 2010 4:36 AM CDT reply actions  

if you can't dick around on the internet

where can you dick around?

"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."

by boyonthedock on Sep 5, 2010 6:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good stab.

A bit of feedback: Never ask for help from the FP. You cannot appear weak.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 5, 2010 7:16 AM CDT reply actions  

Sounds like Bizarro World to me

So I flipped a few things around, plugged in a couple numbers, and am now declaring the White Sox AL Central champs in Alternate Universe World.

Seriously the White Sox winning a double header against Boston on the road? Hell why not?

Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."

Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."

by Tdogg on Sep 5, 2010 8:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, couldn't use "Bizarro World" after it appeared in a title three days ago.

Plus, I used AUW on a regular basis.

"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose

by Teahenny Penny on Sep 5, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Leavin' for fenway now (about an hour drive).

I printed out larry’s post from yesterday – hope to get it to Ozzie.
“Who dees ‘larry’… ’esterday I taut we doo pooty goo”

"Having resumed drinking alcohol, I cannot for the life of me understand how I ever could've given it up." - Merrick

by gar ridge pride on Sep 5, 2010 8:54 AM CDT reply actions  

I thought of something last night

might be useful to keep in your back pocket for any coming Minnesota wins or ChiSox losses. Next year, it is altogether possible that Gavin Floyd, he of Big Hairy Balls, would be our 5th starter next year. I know, I know… lots of questions on the offense for 2010, but that rotation is a hell of a place to start when building a team.

by CatBrains on Sep 5, 2010 9:58 AM CDT reply actions  

jealous bitch?

"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Sep 5, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

seems rather like a waste.

no one reads the site on weekends. wasting content.

by larry on Sep 5, 2010 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

dude, i wasted my time

reading this article

"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Sep 5, 2010 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

son of a bitch

i finally get to see a game, and no manny

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Sep 5, 2010 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

god damn you, ozzie.

Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.

by MarketMaker on Sep 5, 2010 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

you gotta keep in mind that ozzie knows the numbers.

and the numbers say kotsay has a .745 OPS against beckett. in stark contrast, ramirez has a .000 OPS against him.

by larry on Sep 5, 2010 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

i'm sure this is one of the times where .000 > .745

"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10

by Ahillock on Sep 5, 2010 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

lmao

Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."

Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."

by Tdogg on Sep 5, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeesh.

"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."

-RWShow

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 5, 2010 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ozzie showing Manny who's boss.

"....we have to find a way to win. And good teams do that."

Tomas Kopecky May 29, 2010

by ballyb on Sep 5, 2010 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

2010:

Minnesota = luckier than Chicago.

Well, shit.

"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."

-RWShow

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 5, 2010 10:52 AM CDT reply actions  

About a month of baseball left

And Ozzie Guillen is sitting Manny Ramirez

by 815Sox on Sep 5, 2010 10:56 AM CDT reply actions  

Only playing Devil's Advocate

but given the double header yesterday and Manny’s leg problems, it’s not a totally indefensible plan to rest Manny today. Not totally. I don’t agree with it, but…

"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."

-RWShow

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 5, 2010 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can't wait until Mark Kotsay's heralded return to Fenway Park!

Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!

by 67WMAQ on Sep 5, 2010 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

sure

However he is over here simply because we are in the pennant race, if they have plans of keeping him next year (which would be great) then it makes more sense.

by 815Sox on Sep 5, 2010 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

John Danks had a big smile on his face when asked if he would be able to pitch against Detroit on Wednesday night on only three days’ rest.

“Yes,” said Danks, and pitching coach Don Cooper indicated Sunday that the Sox are leaning that way.

Danks threw 103 pitches in Saturday’s first game of a doubleheader and experienced no lingering effects of a left hamstring cramp.

The last time Danks pitched on three days’ rest was in 2008, when he pitched eight innings of two-hit ball to beat Minnesota 1-0 in the famous “Blackout” game that vaulted the Sox to the American League playoffs.

http://www.chicagobreakingsports.com/2010/09/danks-likely-to-start-on-short-rest-wednesday.html

by larry on Sep 5, 2010 11:02 AM CDT reply actions  

You want a horse, call E-Jax.
Edwin Jackson stood before his locker in Cleveland last Tuesday, discussing his latest victory for the Chicago White Sox, one that had taken 129 pitches over eight and two-thirds innings. Only four other pitchers had thrown as many pitches in a game this season, yet Jackson had no icepack on his elbow or shoulder.
"I figure, why ice if I’m not hurting?" said Jackson, who turns 27 this week. "There’s going to come a day I’ll probably have to ice every day and take Advil and Tylenol. But until then, I’m going to enjoy it — enjoy the youth."
Jackson has established himself as an iron man, of sorts, in his eighth major league season. In June, he threw 149 pitches in a no-hitter for the Arizona Diamondbacks, who traded him to Chicago the next month for a younger and cheaper right-hander, Daniel Hudson.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/05/sports/baseball/05bases.html?ref=todayspaper

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 5, 2010 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

For the record

my comment under the better thing was just a joke.

"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."

-RWShow

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 5, 2010 11:07 AM CDT reply actions  

*bettor

"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."

-RWShow

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 5, 2010 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

i am shock

When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.

by U-God on Sep 5, 2010 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well

no one here will accuse me of being anything close to funny, and given the deletion of the main post, I just wanted to make sure. Just covering my ass is all.

"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."

-RWShow

by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 5, 2010 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Game thread?

"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10

by Ahillock on Sep 5, 2010 11:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Be patient.

It’s on autopilot.

I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

by winningugly on Sep 5, 2010 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

teen wolf on G4.

Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.

by MarketMaker on Sep 5, 2010 12:05 PM CDT reply actions  

Mark Teahen’s errant throw on a potential game-ending double play on Wednesday in Cleveland did not hasten Brent Morel’s callup from Triple-A Charlotte on Friday.
“I wanted this kid because this kid is our future, and I want to see what he can do,” said manager Ozzie Guillen of the 23-year-old third baseman.

Morel has proven that he can hit at every Minor League stop, but he will be used primarily as a defensive replacement late in games, giving the 43-year-old Omar Vizquel a chance to rest from time to time.

“Vizquel has been used a lot,” Guillen said. "You saw Omar in Cleveland; he couldn’t move two steps to his right and two steps to his left. I don’t blame him. It’s different playing third than second.

“We’ve been very lucky to have Omar doing what he’s doing right now, and then we have to protect him. The only reason we can do that is to have Morel here. And he’s a guy I have more confidence in than anyone else.

“I might use him for Omar because I think he’s got better range. We’ll see. People will say, ’You’re going to take 10 Gold Gloves to put in a kid?’ Well, that 10 Gold Gloves was 10 years ago.”

http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20100904&content_id=14269948&notebook_id=14270876&vkey=notebook_cws&fext=.jsp&c_id=cws

by larry on Sep 5, 2010 12:05 PM CDT reply actions  

This is all probably true

but I don’t understand why Ozzie is supposedly beloved by his players when he says shit like this. There’s no reason to make fun of Vizquel’s age in the press, the guy has been a great stopgap for us, I don’t see what Ozzie is trying to do here, and I don’t think telling the truth is a good enough reason to talk.

by Gentleman Jim on Sep 5, 2010 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

i agree with you

I was anti-omar when they signed him….. and they blew all sorts of smoke up our asses saying how he still can play…. and then he gets in… and low and behold he can actually play. and he has fun doing so….. and if he wasn’t playing we wouldn’t be where we are now…… and then with less than a month left he shits all over the guy. i don’t get it. no his range isn’t nearly what it was…but he still is hitting around .290 and making mostly every play he gets to- something the guy you traded for and signed to a 3 year extension can’t do.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Sep 5, 2010 8:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

In the minor leagues,

using their superior coaching techniques, they teach them to “hit it where they ain’t.”

"....we have to find a way to win. And good teams do that."

Tomas Kopecky May 29, 2010

by ballyb on Sep 5, 2010 12:31 PM CDT reply actions  

i think it's very likely that the Twins have a pitchers' park

i don’t know anything about the dimensions, but all of the open air parks without tiny outfields in the region are decidedly pitchers’ parks.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Sep 5, 2010 2:50 PM CDT reply actions  

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