White Sox Streak Ends As Injuries Mount
The White Sox improbable 7 game road winning streak came to an end Tuesday night. More importantly, they got bit by the injury bug pretty hard.
Gordon Beckham, who got hit by a pitch on the hand last week, has had a longer-than-expected recovery, was reportedly unable to grip a bat pregame and consequently was a late scratch. Paul Konerko, who missed the last 2 games with back spasms, got the customary extra-day of rest. Freddy Garcia, who lasted just 4 innings with a tight back of his own last outing, halved that endurance with just two innings before his back forced him out. Finally, Manny Ramirez was hit by pitches on two separate occasions and had to be removed after the latter, though that appeared to be out of typical Manny-being-Manny, late-inning blowout indifference than anything else.
The Beckham and Garcia injuries loom the largest. Beckham reacted as though he broke his hand in Cleveland and has had considerable swelling since. Although the initial x-ray proved to be negative, his slow recovery and recent setback seem to indicated something more substantial than a bruise. If Beckham were indeed to go down, Omar Vizquel would leaned on even more heavily, probably shifting to 2B, while the trio of Mark Teahen, Dayan Viciedo and Brent Morel split time at 3B. Morel is the only one who has a passable major league glove, but he now owns a grand total of one major league at-bat, which he received in the 9th inning of tonight's blowout. Amusingly, Viciedo also had a milestone moment in the game's 9th inning, drawing his first major league walk and celebrating with a large smile and double fist pump.
Garcia lasted longer as an effective starter than most expected, but it's clear that he can't be counted on for anything now. He's had one quality start in the last 30 days, and didn't last past the 4th inning in half of those starts. Unfortunately, Garcia's predicted dive came after Jake Peavy's season ending injury and the trade of 6th starter Daniel Hudson. Lucas Harrell and Carlos Torres filled in for Garcia about as well as you might expect them to, that is at replacement level, but that's not going to cut it as the Sox sit some 4-games back of the division leading Twins.
Garcia's next scheduled start is this Saturday against the Royals. If it was any other team, I'd skip Garcia and go to a 4-man rotation. But it's the Royals, and Danks is already scheduled to work on short rest this week. Going to a 4-man rotation now would put Danks on 3-days rest for almost the entire rest of the season. The proper approach is probably to take a bullpen day against the Royal, maybe with Garica getting the start, sticking with him if he miraculously has it, and then using the off-day in front of the Twins series to skip his next start. At that point, the season is short enough that the Sox could make the decision to go with a 4-man rotation as they did in '08, or in the event of a clock-cleaning by the Twins, give the young guys some experience.
Either way, tonight should be the last night Garcia is counted on in a Sox uniform.
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by The Cheat on Sep 7, 2010 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Muted, with Whitesnake's Greatest Hits blaring.
"Sarcastic little bitch. I’m gonna marry her just to make her miserable." - South Side Expat
We all should be so lucky.
a pahtty-maathed Pahrt Slot Cahnt of a wahtress
by homesickalien on Sep 7, 2010 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
its not easy... being green...

"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok
by DrEmilioLizardo on Sep 7, 2010 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions
but the outfits the players wear are 'faaaabulous!!'
"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok
by DrEmilioLizardo on Sep 7, 2010 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn the inferstructure
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
First one no.
I stopped watching before the second.
I don’t know what to make of our chances. Aging anchors. The kids aren’t all right.
Hockey season starts soon
They have given me far more then I thought they would this year, if they don’t win at least they were competitive (again)
now wonder you guys like the wire so much, and kenwo so little!
carlos lee gets a cameo!
i swear to god i had a dream last night that manny was traded to the sox
i woke up thinking it was true. so i had to check the internet, this could be another one of my premonitions so sit tight ;D
by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 19, 2010 5:14 PM CDT
by Where Triples Go to Die on Sep 8, 2010 1:31 AM CDT reply actions
Shoulda been Jose
poor guy never gets no respect. the Sox’ Gus Triandos.
Fireworks: Bang?
by colintj on Sep 8, 2010 8:42 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
even damaso marte got a shout out
i swear to god i had a dream last night that manny was traded to the sox
i woke up thinking it was true. so i had to check the internet, this could be another one of my premonitions so sit tight ;D
by Where Triples Go to Die on Aug 19, 2010 5:14 PM CDT
by Where Triples Go to Die on Sep 8, 2010 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
too bad about becks...his injury certainly lessens any optimism i had left about the team's chances to make the playoffs
at this point, we still have to keep winning + least take 2 of 3 from the twins + and hope the twins experience some unlikely losing streak
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Sep 8, 2010 4:06 AM CDT reply actions
I think we have to sweep them, regardless
of whether they hit a losing streak.
"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."
-RWShow
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 8, 2010 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah I dont think it changes much.
I expected to lose a game here. The question is the next 5 games. Ideally you want to pick up a least a half game over the next 2 days and 1 over the weekend. Twins come to town 3 up. Let’s get it on.
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
of all the options for saturday i am most comfortable with
Pena starting
by stanchar on Sep 8, 2010 5:44 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Against KC? Yes, plz.
For those of you panicking about the loss – if they go 4-4 on this road trip, they are 8.5 out.
Get ’em tomorrow and Thursday.
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But if the Twins never lose how will the Sox ever catch them?
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Sep 8, 2010 6:53 AM CDT up reply actions
That's the most depressing Zen Koan ever.
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Heh.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Sep 8, 2010 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, Twins are playing really well
Hard to see them pulling a San Diego with so few games left.
"We are strong enough as we are and everything fits together in such a way that the only thing we were going to add would be something of an impact guy," KW
Liriano and the Twins beat the Royals and Brian Bannister?
The hell you say!
Verlander v. Garcia was a tall order…under ideal circumstances.
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Freddy is up Sunday. E-Jax on Saturday.
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maybe freddy will end up going 1 inning on sunday
woohooo
"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10
They are who we thought they were
That sucks, win 7 out of 8 and don’t gain an inch. Gallant season from the boys, especially with Peavy going down. They’ve done a lot better than I expected, but they’ve pretty much maxed out on what you can squeeze out of this roster and it’s still not good enough to win the division.
"We are strong enough as we are and everything fits together in such a way that the only thing we were going to add would be something of an impact guy," KW
instead of "win 7 of 8 and don't gain an inch" isn't it win 7 out of 8 and lose an inch?
perspective my friend
"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10
We have had a thin margin for injury.
We’ve exceeded that margin. 2 of 5 SP’s down is not good. Starting Wunderkind with a potential hairline fracture (I had my January stress fracture misdiagnosed for 3 weeks before they found it) is just as bad, especially with his 2nd half resurgence. Our farm isn’t Teh Twinn-ish deep where we can just call up someone and throw him into the fray.
The guys may man up, yet this reminds me of a boxing match where the challenger throws the kitchen sink at the champ and is exhausted by the effort, yet goes down. I’m hoping for the best. If Manny/Paulie/Q/Rios can get/stay hot we have a shot. But the starting pitching needs to step up big time.
I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT
I like our chances with Danks vs. Bonderman tonight.
I like KC with Greinke tonight too. Fucking exhale. We have our rotation set with our 3 best pitchers going against the Twinks in our park next week. Don’t jump off just yet, if we lose 1 game per week for the rest of the season we will be having another parade this fall.
Well, that a good manageris your opinion. by winningugly
You lost 1 SP, assuming Freddy went down
Jackson is playing the Peavy role. You can probably juggle the rotation/do bullpen games to cover for Freddy.
I hope Beckham needs a little rest. It sucks that some piece of last place organizational filler can knock out one of our best players. But, them’s the breaks.
Anyone moving next week? Maybe Big Jim can help you carry a couple of couches.
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No, you lost 2 SP. You had to give up the Freddy Insurance Policy to replace Peavy. Great as Jackson has been, he does not equal Peavy+Hudson.
"Sarcastic little bitch. I’m gonna marry her just to make her miserable." - South Side Expat
I was figuring Hudson would've been in the mix once Freddy went down.
Point taken, though. We have a good 4 starters who are healthy. I’m concerned re: Becks and how that fucks up 3B for us. But AJ will carry us, just like Thome is carrying Teh Twinn right now.
I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT
We're entering SSS territory.
If some cobbled together combo of Teahen, Viciedo, Morel, and Vizquel can keep the ship together for the next three weeks…then so be it.
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I like to think the past five weeks of AJ Production is something that has to continue.
Not “has to,” as in “if the Sox are going to make the playoffs,” but more along the lines of his first four months being so godawful that the universe according to Steven Hawking will not allow such a craptacular season line.
"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose
by Teahenny Penny on Sep 8, 2010 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Sorry, but
Hawking is working on “A Brief History of (Will) Rhymes.”
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by 67WMAQ on Sep 8, 2010 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Actually, AJ's stats would help prove a lot of his theories on black holes.
"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose
by Teahenny Penny on Sep 8, 2010 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Homer still has a lock on the theory of the donut shaped universe.
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I don't like this three dementional world.
I’m so…bulgy.
"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."
-RWShow
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 8, 2010 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions
I hear Sale is putting them through a frat-tastic ritual.
They should be good after that.
OzzieOzzieOzzie: What's the first thing you're gonna do when you get there?
MannyTheTorpedoes: play rly good then stop, hate u an take ur monies
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Sep 8, 2010 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions
They got their shot.
Good thing it was in a throwaway game. Moot point re: Danks now.
Oh, and I hate you.
I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT
This team is resilient . . .
They have rebounded from disaster twice (a lousy start and a miserable mid-August) to remain competitive to the very end. There are not many teams better than the White Sox right now, and I’d take them over anybody in the NL, and they’re one of the four best teams in the AL (Yanks, Rays, Twins, Sox). Unfortunately, one of those teams will be left out in favor of a fading Rangers teams and four pretenders from the NL.
Did you guys expect a win?
Verlander v Garcia? Didn’t look good from the beginning. It’s not over until the Twins series happens.
OzzieOzzieOzzie: What's the first thing you're gonna do when you get there?
MannyTheTorpedoes: play rly good then stop, hate u an take ur monies
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Sep 8, 2010 8:14 AM CDT reply actions
Not really
One the way home from work I thought “this is where the streak ends, the important thing is the next game”.
Also, I finally get to watch a damn game on TV
next 5 games.
Sox need to make up 1.5 games.
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
What happened to your larry "It's over" sig?
I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT
geez man I rode with it for quite some time
am I never allowed to change?
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
A Change We Can All Embrace?
Sure. I just see so few opportunities where larry gets nailed by his own words. I have that happen every day.
I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT
you are just begging for it man....
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
It is not over.
Tell me you expected to be in first place even one day.
I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT
your fault for not reading between the lines.
“its (gonna look good for the sox pretty soon, and the sox are gonna have a nice lead for a while, but pitchers will go down and the twins will get hot and then it will be) over”
by Trooper on Sep 8, 2010 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
i didn't.
but the point of that post was that you don’t spot the 2010 twins 8 games and win the division. lots of people are satisfied to be entertained by the white sox remaining “competitive” until the end. winning entertains me.
Is it really "spotting" 8 games though?
I agree with everything you said but that. Not sure spotting is the right word, but I get your drift.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Sep 8, 2010 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Has OLD taken your address yet
So she can firebomb your house if Georgia loses?
by Grinder in Training on Sep 8, 2010 2:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Heh... With no AJ Green now, USC doesn't have any excuse to lose this game
To me, the UGA game is the second most important game of the season. Every season. First Florida, then UGA. In this new SEC, If you can’t beat UGA, your season isn’t going anywhere.
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Sep 8, 2010 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions
that 8 game- really 9 game deficit was effectively erased
the White Sox had just as good a chance as Minny to win this division at the biggning of August. I get your drift too but you were wrong. It was not over.
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
let me know when the white sox make the playoffs.
funny things can happen over short stretches. over 120 games, the better team almost always wins. don’t stop believing, tdogg.
Our season was over in Mid July when we missed the opportunity to sign Rocco Baldelli.
He was all we needed to win the division. Oh, wait that was your plan for last year. You didn’t have one for this year.
Well, that a good manageris your opinion. by winningugly
yes, 120, when the twins were up 5, is all you need to see.
not 110, when the sox were up 1.5. phew, good thing they played those extra 10 games, the wrong team was almost better.
Finally he embodies the heart of SSS.
OzzieOzzieOzzie: What's the first thing you're gonna do when you get there?
MannyTheTorpedoes: play rly good then stop, hate u an take ur monies
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Sep 8, 2010 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions
heh, the statement with almost is fine, and that makes it true 100% of the time. my comment was that it took you a second try to be a lawyer.
it doesn’t seem very relevant in a thread questioning the validity of a statement that you made around games 50-60. and it seemed irrelevant being from 20 games ago and one within 8 games of the two teams being tied.
a second response.
the first one about consistency, the second one about the use of the word almost.
flip them around and I wouldn’t have been able to make my joke.
The worst part is....
Jesse C.’s predictions are slowly materializing as possible truths…
When the going gets tough, the tough get optimistic
Whatever, she predicted like 11 GB at the start of the twins/sox series.
Not even close.
OzzieOzzieOzzie: What's the first thing you're gonna do when you get there?
MannyTheTorpedoes: play rly good then stop, hate u an take ur monies
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Sep 8, 2010 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions
12 games up on Tuesday.
Peyote is a hell of a drug.
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Yeah I was working off memory.
She/He? did say they would win 101 games…hahaha…the way they are going…
When the going gets tough, the tough get optimistic
I'm working on my own "preview."
Will post later in the day.
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Well, those are just possibilities at the moment.
Mauer will actually pass away at some point.
Point, SSS.
"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose
by Teahenny Penny on Sep 8, 2010 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions
Sunday's game against O'Sullivan
definitely go with Pena/ slash bullpen. That should still be a very winnable game with a FULL lineup. The next week or so should show the importance of the Manny acquisition.
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
Unless they keep hitting him.
That’s one strategy. Such as it is.
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not as nice with aj and teahen batting behind him
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Sep 8, 2010 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Hey man all hands on deck
Last 30 days
AJ .388/.402/.518
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
It would seem silly to use a player over another player who has failed to outproduce him for an extended period of time.
Since 5/1
Beckham .208/.267/.297
Kotsay .260/.355/.433
This is a retarded conversation.
I don't understand
I learned my lesson on Becks I’m not bashing him.
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
He say "SSS"
and “those who cannot remember the past…”
I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT
Please
Its an easy setting on fangraphs. Last 30 days. It’s fine within reason Larry.
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
i'm with you. I would rather the scoreboard show the last 10 or 20 game or 50PA stats
than the full season.
Pretty much every significant piece except Omar
has OPS’d .750 or above the last 30 days. I want the best hitting lineup possible but I think Ozzie has effectively shifted and rode hot hands lately. Fine by me.
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
i agree, i'll ride the aj express
don’t stop believing baby!
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Sep 8, 2010 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
at this point, you may as well ride the hot hand
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Sep 8, 2010 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
At first glance, mistook the slash as an "L" ad the end of Pena.
hehehehehe… penal.
"Sarcastic little bitch. I’m gonna marry her just to make her miserable." - South Side Expat
Ladies and Gentlemen, Detroit is burning
About 15,000 DTE Energy customers were without power this morning after wicked winds on Tuesday ripped down power lines across Wayne County and sparked numerous fires in Detroit.
Police also have arrested one man suspected of setting some of the fires.
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i just watched the road last night, so i pretty much know exactly where we go from here.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
It's okay
because a giant pile of ash is worth more than most Detroit homes. Or Detroit residents. FU Detroit.
reply fail
"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10
Best price you can get on the twins is 1.10
100 quid will net you a tenner if they win it – it’s no price for me but i think it’s about right. They are 90% likely to win the Central
My Beerdrunk soul is sadder than all the dead christmas trees of the world
good, i like being the under dog
"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10
put your quid where your mouth is
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rather put my pro quo than my quid....
"Fuck fangraphs and your fancy designer stats can go pound some hard sand"- Billyok
by DrEmilioLizardo on Sep 8, 2010 12:53 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
there's no need to fear
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
I have layed the twins for ten quid
I win a hundred if we win.
My Beerdrunk soul is sadder than all the dead christmas trees of the world
"The night Sweaty Freddy died!
Sha na na na na na na na na! Brother what a night it really was. Mother what a night it really… hyperhidrosis’ tough!"
"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose
Becks: not broken
Beckham, who complained that the pain seemed to be “jumping around” in his injured hand, said he had it X-rayed again before Tuesday’s game.
“The doctor came in and said it’s not broke, it’s fine,” Beckham said. “He gave me kind of the reason why (the pain is) jumping around. All the muscles in the hand are connected so when one goes haywire it’s going to affect every other muscle.”
via Chicagobreakingsports
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Phhhhhheeeewwwwww.
"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose
by Teahenny Penny on Sep 8, 2010 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Rob Dibble style
Suck it up kid!
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
Becks: just stigmata
“It’s kind of weird because he got hit on that side of the hand [outer heel] and he’s bruised [on the inner palm],” said Guillen.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
by thatshortkid on Sep 8, 2010 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
WHY? WHY? WHY?
i don’t read cowley but for some reason i just listened to him on the score.
he essentially called the whole team (players and coaches) cowards for not retaliating. and not just this year, but for the last 5 years.
additionally, he said that anyone who is saying that they wanted thome on the sox this year and thought he would be productive is a liar. he said other stuff too which i wasn’t really listening to. i’m sure it was just as terrible.
why do i listen to him?!? argh.
i am a bark for buffeting. i am a hound for thornypaws. i am a doe for swiftness. i am a tree for wind-siege. i am a windmill. i am a hole in a wall.
Because you enjoy self flagellation
OzzieOzzieOzzie: What's the first thing you're gonna do when you get there?
MannyTheTorpedoes: play rly good then stop, hate u an take ur monies
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Sep 8, 2010 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions
Who doesn't??
"Sarcastic little bitch. I’m gonna marry her just to make her miserable." - South Side Expat
"I'm not an alcoholic, I drink because I listen to Cowley."
"OzzieOzzieOzzie: eep"
by South Side Expat on Sep 8, 2010 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions
considering most polls were about 50/50 on thome
thats dumb as hell. I get frustrated too with the number of times the Sox are hit but I don’t think a suspension in a pennant race is the most effective way for catching a team. Joe Cowley is an idiot.
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
An idiot? I don't think so. Really, Cowley is more of a
blockhead, bonehead, cretin, dimwit, dork, dumbbell, dunce, fool, ignoramus, imbecile, jerk, kook, moron, muttonhead, nincompoop, ninny, nitwit, out to lunch, pinhead, simpleton, stupid, tomfool, twit, addlebrain, blunderer, botcher, bumbler, butcher, butterfingers, clod, clumsy oaf, dolt, donkey, duffer, featherbrain, foul-up, fumbler, goof off, goofball, harebrain, incompetent, klutz, mismanager, muddler, muffer, numskull, screw up, spoiler, obnoxious stupid person.
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 8, 2010 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Most of the baseball writers in town eat paste
Or appeal to people who do.
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
Why not both?
Mmmm…paste. Aaaagggghhh!!!
/channeling the drool of Homer Simpson
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
I liked him.
Telander used to be good, also.
I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT
More...
cst_sox I think it’s hilarious how Sox fans are now all crying about how much they always loved Jim Thome. Way to rewrite history.
I can’t say I really blame him for having this opinion of Sox fans because I would venture to guess the overwhelming majority he converses with are the mouthbreathers that spend time commenting on newspaper sites.
Oh, who am I kidding, FJC.
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Sep 8, 2010 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions
rewrite history
huh, coming from someone who routinely stirs up shit shit in the clubhouse for fun
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Sep 8, 2010 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Someone needs to give him a link to SSS.
And teach him how to use the Search function to look at posts from February.
by Grinder in Training on Sep 8, 2010 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
This is a great resource.
"Before you can say 'sounds of the game,' Mark Kotsay is out." -Chris Rose
by Teahenny Penny on Sep 8, 2010 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions
What you all are forgetting is the disrespect issue.
Are you saying we should disrespect the hell out of Thome by telling him he’s not going to play every game? Disrespect. Vets can’t have it.
OzzieOzzieOzzie: What's the first thing you're gonna do when you get there?
MannyTheTorpedoes: play rly good then stop, hate u an take ur monies
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Sep 8, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
....Also Kotsay should be starting every game.
OzzieOzzieOzzie: What's the first thing you're gonna do when you get there?
MannyTheTorpedoes: play rly good then stop, hate u an take ur monies
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Sep 8, 2010 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
The address of your residence.
I require it.
by Grinder in Training on Sep 8, 2010 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
You are so disrespectful.
OzzieOzzieOzzie: What's the first thing you're gonna do when you get there?
MannyTheTorpedoes: play rly good then stop, hate u an take ur monies
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Sep 8, 2010 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions
The HBP disparity is pretty big
Sox batters have been hit 70 times. Sox pitchers have hit 29 batters. Juan Pierre and Quentin have accounted for 36 of those HBP (exactly 18 each). So even take away those two and replace them with zeroes (which is obviously not reasonable), you still have a 36-29 difference. Granted you would expect better control given a pitching staff with the control the Sox have. However, the advanced scounting probably says that the Sox can be pitched inside aggressively. Would that stop if the Sox were to retaliate? Who knows. All I know is it’s very frustrating to watch Sox batters get drilled so much, with a number of the cases clearly being intentional.
Now if you’ll excuse me, this paste sandwhich won’t eat itself.
Don't worry, Ozzie is gonna protect his players.
It’s just like last year, right?
"OzzieOzzieOzzie: eep"
by South Side Expat on Sep 8, 2010 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I wish they would do it more
My Beerdrunk soul is sadder than all the dead christmas trees of the world
Mmmmm paste sandwich.
Whats your composition of flour to water ratio?
OzzieOzzieOzzie: What's the first thing you're gonna do when you get there?
MannyTheTorpedoes: play rly good then stop, hate u an take ur monies
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Sep 8, 2010 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Cowley and LoHo on 670
Are compensating for something, they always talk about hot chicks (which is fine) and fighting..
Stone is a regular on the station and actually contributes
I'm callin it right now:
Twins loss tonight vs. Greinke
and
A Sox WIN
Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''
Final Scores MIN 53/KC 5 CWS 3/DET 4
Kent Hrbek suits up and goes 3-4 with 4 RBI
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
Interesting.. KC gets 5
Did the Twins let a fan pitch the last inning?
by Grinder in Training on Sep 8, 2010 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
No
they brought Blackburn in again for some work.
by Gentleman Jim on Sep 8, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't worry though
he’s also starting Friday and Saturday and will likely pitch 7+ innings of one run ball in each.
by Gentleman Jim on Sep 8, 2010 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions
No, they let this guy pitch.

OzzieOzzieOzzie: What's the first thing you're gonna do when you get there?
MannyTheTorpedoes: play rly good then stop, hate u an take ur monies
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Sep 8, 2010 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Considering he's playing better now apparently
And how bad Cutler looks with the Bears, and Orton just got resigned for a fair amount of money, perhaps it’s time we look at the rest of the organization for these quarterbacking failures.
by Grinder in Training on Sep 8, 2010 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions
definitely, the org is terrible
3rd round draft pick from last year plays 15 snaps his rookie year and 6th round pick from this year just get cut, really really bad. those kind of picks are supposed to be valuable!
Hope he’s not writing the 2011 White Sox Anal too. -Sox Machine
FTT, he's a douche.
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
Try again.
OzzieOzzieOzzie: What's the first thing you're gonna do when you get there?
MannyTheTorpedoes: play rly good then stop, hate u an take ur monies
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Sep 8, 2010 2:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Same college though.
OzzieOzzieOzzie: What's the first thing you're gonna do when you get there?
MannyTheTorpedoes: play rly good then stop, hate u an take ur monies
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Sep 8, 2010 2:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Oh, that's gross, man!
My bad.
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
I'm gonna agree with you fellow resident
I’m actually going to be in your area to visit one of my foster kids and homes later today
you know where I live?
Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''
so, so wrong.
not even close.
i am a bark for buffeting. i am a hound for thornypaws. i am a doe for swiftness. i am a tree for wind-siege. i am a windmill. i am a hole in a wall.
Chicago White Sox are overusing starting pitchers
days rest today against the Tigers, it’s a mistake. Even if it works it’s a mistake.
Sox starters don’t need more work, they need less. And though Ozzie Guillen and Don Cooper are usually careful about the workload of their starters, the Sox’ recent problems in their bullpen have forced them to lean more and more on their starters. Maybe it’s worth the risk, maybe it’s not. But there’s got to be a better way. Because — with rare exception — overuse eventually comes back to bite you.
http://www.suntimes.com/sports/baseball/whitesox/2687094,chicago-white-sox-pitching-08.article
"I became an optimist when I discovered that I wasn't going to win any more games by being anything else."
Earl Weaver
The best way to not over-use your starters is to miss the playoffs.
Let’s hope they do that so everybody’s fresh next August!
"Sarcastic little bitch. I’m gonna marry her just to make her miserable." - South Side Expat
Sigh
Did he really write.
in his last eight innings pitched, Jackson’s ERA is 6.75. In 36 innings prior to that, it was 1.00. Hmmmm…
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
who the fuck is this guy? fuck him.
what’s his fucking solution? is it what he says at the beginning of the 4th to last paragraph?
As for John Danks and starting on three days rest against the Tigers, he’s the best choice if you have to go that route.
also, why in the fuck is he comparing the sox pitchers to wood, prior and zambrano.
also, i didn’t realize that danks was a power pitcher.
whatever.
i am a bark for buffeting. i am a hound for thornypaws. i am a doe for swiftness. i am a tree for wind-siege. i am a windmill. i am a hole in a wall.
Speaking of paste-eaters
That is a pretty baseless column.
“Don’t overuse your starters, except if you have no choice. Look at the Twins and let me rattle off two of their starters and their recent stats. Nevermind one has been continuously injured and one who bounced between AAA and the parent club.”
Send. Look how easy it is.
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Sep 8, 2010 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
who is mark potash? a suntimes newbie?
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Sep 8, 2010 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions
He's been around for a couple years
he tends to write more of the ridiculous columns in town. His schtick is usually the same: Chicago team needs to change what they’re doing because I said so.
He got drilled for writing something last year, I think it was about Cutler.
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Sep 8, 2010 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions
damn, FJM is rolling in its grave
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Sep 8, 2010 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
So I got a DVD to review called "The Essential Games of the Seattle Mariners"
I figured it was an empty box, but then I turn it around and I see Game 3 of the 2000 ALDS is in the set
So yeah, I don’t know where I’m going with this
signature
jose guillen stepped on the plate, so,
there’s that.
by obnoxious american on Sep 8, 2010 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I think you know where to send that once you're done with it.
a pahtty-maathed Pahrt Slot Cahnt of a wahtress
by homesickalien on Sep 8, 2010 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions
My toilet doesn't take DVDs yet, how much does one of those new models cost?
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
BTW, Freddy has more lives than Freddy Krueger.
“…last night Garcia is counted on in a Sox uniform” may be premature.
Cowley journalism on SSS. Catch it.
I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT
If he can quote Cheat verbatim
How does he miss the three months of the offseason, spring trianing and all through the season up to this point, where all we did was talk about how we needed to bring back Jim Thome? Where was he when we all said Mark Kotsay would be a disaster as a DH? FJC.
by Grinder in Training on Sep 8, 2010 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't worry about it guys...
I just got through impregnating his whore of a wife.
When the going gets tough, the tough get optimistic
by Rhubarb on Sep 8, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
haha
Chris Sale: impressed yet?
Dave Cameron:
I’d be impressed if I didn’t already think that relief pitching was the easiest job in sports.
Which AL East team will have the most trouble in the ALDS
Dave Cameron:
Whichever one gets the Twins. People are still vastly underrating how good they are.
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Sep 8, 2010 1:36 PM CDT reply actions
it's like dave cameron has become a caricature of himself
and is now just going around saying shit to get links or get a rise out of people
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
yeah, i gotta to turn that shit off
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Sep 8, 2010 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Then he goes on to say that Rivera's cutter is the best pitch in the history of baseball... But if relief pitching is the easiest job in sports...

"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Sep 8, 2010 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Lol good one.
The Times called Detroit an “economic bright spot,” highlighting a series of improvements at The Big Three: Ford Motor (NYSE: F – News), General Motors (NYSE: GM – News) and Chrysler. It’s true the companies have come a long way, but calling Detroit a bright spot amid a slowly recovering economy is probably somewhat of a stretch, at least for now.
OzzieOzzieOzzie: What's the first thing you're gonna do when you get there?
MannyTheTorpedoes: play rly good then stop, hate u an take ur monies
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Sep 8, 2010 1:50 PM CDT reply actions
A bright spot
because it is on FIRE! Literally. No. Really.
I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT
Pierre 7, Vizquel 4, Rios 8, Konerko 3, M. Ramirez DH, Teahen 5, Jones 9, Pierzynski 2, A. Ramirez 6, Danks 1
what are you upset about?
Q?
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
Q is the only thing you could be upset about.
Becks is out.
OzzieOzzieOzzie: What's the first thing you're gonna do when you get there?
MannyTheTorpedoes: play rly good then stop, hate u an take ur monies
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Sep 8, 2010 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
Until Q give me more than 7 days worth of better stats on the road
its not worth the effort. His h/a splits this year are drastic.
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
That's what I'd be upset about, if I were to be upset.
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
With Becks hurt, that's about it.
And Jones does play better defense, and has been hitting the ball relatively well. I guess if you want Ramirez to bat second and Vizquel to bat ninth I could see that.
by Grinder in Training on Sep 8, 2010 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
and how could one be upset about that.
since august 25, andruw jones is OPSing like 1.500. and, since august 11, quentin is OPSing just .740. that’s like twice as much.
thats dumb as hell
and overtop as usual. Your whole point is silly. Q’s has a difference of roughly .300 ops this year in h/a splits. You run your team whatever way you see fit chief but there is a difference between long term expectation and recent activities
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
I dont know
Prob SSS but I dont give a shit. Its enough of a difference that it matters right now. If you are substituting the worst hitter in baseball for him fine but Jones starting over Q on the road this year. Im not crying.
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
quentin does hit better in the cell.
however, simply lumping all parks into the “away” is facile analysis. i’d bet quentin hits rather well in comerica.
to the extent that everybody hits better in the Cell, sure.
i’d be surprised if the difference was anywhere near enough to bench him if you think he’s good enough to start in the first place.
Fireworks: Bang?
quentin's home road splits for his career are quite marked.
something like 200 points of OPS – i’m sure Tdogg has the numbers right at his fingertips and can let us know the exact amount.
it depends upon what you think of jones, no? and jones has performed about the same as quentin this year, no?
uh yeah
was going to respond but will just piggy back. Making a statement like that without considering who is playing is ?
And its .206
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
i didn't realize his split was so pronounced
but i still doubt there’s much reason to expect that’s a real talent difference. it amounts to two seasons each per split, which isn’t that much time to suss out home/road splits. he’s got a ton of pop, so i’d expect park to matter less when he hits em.
Jones playing doesn’t bother me. i’ve seen him get around on a few fastballs now.
Fireworks: Bang?
You guys do realize you just had this exact same argument,
Of short term and long term consequences above in this thread?
OzzieOzzieOzzie: What's the first thing you're gonna do when you get there?
MannyTheTorpedoes: play rly good then stop, hate u an take ur monies
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Sep 8, 2010 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions
and in Comerica Park, Jones makes much more sense in the field than Quentin.
So I have no problem with Q sitting this one out.
Well, that a good manageris your opinion. by winningugly
I agree.
This is the “A” fielding lineup, plus Teahen, and Teahen absolutely murders Bonderman (seriously: he’s slugging 1,000 against him in 27 AB).
by The Actual El Guapo on Sep 8, 2010 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
i think you got whoshed
"Brent Lillibridge - DH" - July 7th, 2010
"Good luck finding a one two punch like us in the league" - BSLillibridge, July 20, 2010
by Shoeless In SC on Sep 8, 2010 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions
oh you guys
i was making a joke about everyone always complaining about the lineup. i like this one.
"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."
tonight and tomorrow
Need both of these games. 3 out of 4 in DET would be great and we should be able to beat KC. I also think a sweep of MIN is what needs to happen as well. I think last nite was just a slip-up….nobody would have hit Verlander the way he was pitching.
"we should be able to beat KC"
“we should be able to beat Baltimore”
“we should be able to win in Afghanistan”
by Gentleman Jim on Sep 8, 2010 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions
afghanistan is undefeated versus imperialist powers.
maybe if they were up against nepal or something that would be true. but afghanistan is known for stepping it up for the big teams.
by larry on Sep 8, 2010 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
i chalk it up to depth. their minor league system is flush with young talent looking to leave their mark.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Sep 8, 2010 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
their scouts recruit from all over the world.
their middle eastern operations are particularly lucrative.
by larry on Sep 8, 2010 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
they are also in it to win it all
"We saw death and I don't think we fear it anymore. Not unlike 2005, when we finally clinched and then we took off in the playoffs." Coop 7/29/10
They play like their lives depend on it.
I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT
by winningugly on Sep 8, 2010 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
They play like their afterlives depend on it.
fixed.
by larry on Sep 8, 2010 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Afghani Grinder Rule #1
Win or Die Trying.
by moroots on Sep 8, 2010 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 9 recs
too early...
Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''
this is awesome
I am in desperate need of hockey now.
On Twitter? Follow my occasional rants about whatever...
by chisoxfan1473 on Sep 8, 2010 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Because you are MM's lickspittle.
That’s why. ;)
I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT
So many similarities
Just like Afghanistan, we could have probably won had we gone about it the right way, instead we just chose not to. No using all our resources to chase after Osama, instead we went to Iraq, just as Ozzie refused to go after the American League and went to fight in the National League.
Am I suggesting signing Kotsay over Thome is as bad as starting a preemptive war without any evidence to do so, and then lying to the public about it?
Yes.
by Grinder in Training on Sep 8, 2010 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Interesting and off topic (really on here?)
but the latest Football Outsiders (Football Prospectus) projections have the Bears making the playoffs and expects a stellar defense this year.
link
9.3 mean for wins.
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
What is sexually attractive about women
putting mud on each other? Or fighting in mud?
"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."
-RWShow
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 8, 2010 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
That. Is definitely a man on the left.
Check yourself.
OzzieOzzieOzzie: What's the first thing you're gonna do when you get there?
MannyTheTorpedoes: play rly good then stop, hate u an take ur monies
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Sep 8, 2010 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions
The long hair threw me off.
Whoops. But still. What is it with mud as a sexual fetish?
"Rather be stupid and win than smart and lose."
-RWShow
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Sep 8, 2010 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
That's the problem with mud
without the authentic smell, coprophilia loses its luster.
by Gentleman Jim on Sep 8, 2010 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know
Im thinking the other way. Everyone and their mother thinks the Bears will be bad. I think the latest o/u is 8
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
I'll give the Bears 8 wins, with the possibility to get 9
GO PACK!
Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''
shut up dick
:-)
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
i would be ecstatic with 8
think more realistically they go 7-9, with a chance at just 5. but that’s why they play on Sunday! of course they could overperform too, we’ll see
Hope he’s not writing the 2011 White Sox Anal too. -Sox Machine
Under what?
I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT
Well I suppose
If Urlacher, Peppers, Harris and Briggs are all healthy and play up to their potential it’s possible.
Still not sure why you sign Peppers and then turn around and cut Alex Brown. You’re still screwed, you need more than one D-End. Just cheap.. for a team in a big market, in a year with no cap, it seems like they could have kept him around.
by Grinder in Training on Sep 8, 2010 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
A big reason for this is defensive 3rd down conversion rate.
A huge positive for the Bears is defenses that were good on 1st and 2nd down but horrible on 3rd have a history of figuring it out the next year and have substantial improvement.
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
Especially when your head coach has run a damn defense that needs a non blitzing pass rush
and didnt have the personal to do it.
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
personal is good here.
for now on I think ‘personal’ should mean ‘balls’
i.e. “He doesn’t have the personal to fight me outside Gate 5.”
this is a good scenario for bears fans this season. if they win, good. if they lose, lovie is gone, better.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
urlacher is over. he's a below average player at this point in his career, especially the way the bears have used him.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
How does one evaluate football players in a relatively non-biased manner?
Is there something like a range factor for defensive players or wOBA for those on offense?
Or is all the “he’s good / he’s bad” based on eye tests, more or less?
I’m curious as to who is a Jose Valentin-type player in the NFL. Everyone knew he was a good offensive shortstop, but I always thought he was giving too much back on defense with all those errors.
Yep, I was a dumbshit. (In my own defense, I listened to almost all the games on the radio and couldn’t have used the eye test if I wanted to do so.)
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
if you are serious then I'd suggest
picking up the Football Outsiders Almanac Book or visiting the website. They are a ton of advanced metrics. The DVOA or Defense Adjusted Value Over Average is comparable type stat for wOBA.
2009
Aaron Rodgers DVOA 22.7%
Cutler -17% (his previous years were +19.4% and +22.%)
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
I am THIS close
to cloaking all this football shit. We have a division title to win! This is no off-day thread! The game is in an hour!
WAKE THE FUCK UP, WHITE SOX PEOPLE! Fer Chrissakes.
I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT
Oh shut up OPOS
Football season starts tomorrow. I am switching to baseball shortly.You got some nerve.
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
There are plenty of football sites where you can get your game on.
Some of us don’t ever “switch”. I am baseball straight. If you are baseball bi, well, there’s nothing wrong with that as long as you stay in the alleyways and parks late at night. Belmont/Broadway is always open.
I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT
And there are plenty of sites for you to solve the tax code.
wait why am I…..
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
by Tdogg on Sep 8, 2010 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks, I'll check them out!
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
Q!s hand in 08 and an improbable playoff berth
beckhams hand in 10 and an improbable playoff berth.
i’m gone... bye bitches. - wtgtd
I know I will probably get slammed for this but...I need some advice...
got the first pick tonight in my FFL. Chris Johnson or AP? QB TD’s 6 pts, not a PPR. 12-team league.
Chris Johnson for sure
Oz on Swish HR celeb: "That's the way he is. Good for him, enjoy it. I wish he could do it for me, he was a very horseshit player for me.''
gotta be CJ in my opinion
but can’t really go wrong either way
Hope he’s not writing the 2011 White Sox Anal too. -Sox Machine
CJ
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
He's 24 and didn't pass 375 carries last year
He’s safe.
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
TDogg
mark my words, if picking CJ bites me in the ass, i will be at the meth-up next year…and…if I win it all with CJ leading the way…I will bring you a CJ fathead.
Great
but you left out what happens if he sucks…..
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
And get slammed for what?
Forgot this was SSS? We solve all world problems here.
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
And then Larry will admit he was wrong that A Jones
Was the best player in baseball for 7 days because he played the game like his after-life depended on it.
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
Hahaha true...
I just hate asking people about FF. I think I’m going best two available WR’s with pick 24 & 25. (snakedraft)
mad loot
sweet. We can rr it this season
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
#1 pick is rough in 12 team
might want to consider grabbing a top 7 qb with 24 or 25, if still available, they’ll all most likely be gone before you get 48/49. qb’s going so quick in my drafts this year
Hope he’s not writing the 2011 White Sox Anal too. -Sox Machine
I passed on qb this year im both my leagues.
Grabbed sliding Cutler in one and Stafford in the other. Followed up both with Rosenrapist as the back up.
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
Joe Cowley thanks you for taking Big Ben
Theain is the guy I Just can’t stand! pierre is almost as bad,he dose get on base more. If Quntin gets any worse trade him. WE NEED HELP!
huh
i read rosenrapist as sage rosenfels, and thought first ‘who did he rape?’ and then ‘thats a terrible fantasy pick’
"Sportsmanship is just loser talk for losing."
I had pick 8, first guy I grabbed was D Brees.
He’s gonna put up as many points as a quality back.
OzzieOzzieOzzie: What's the first thing you're gonna do when you get there?
MannyTheTorpedoes: play rly good then stop, hate u an take ur monies
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Sep 8, 2010 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions
you don't compare a QB vs RB
What is the difference between a top QB and a 3rd tier QB pointswise vs the difference between a top RB and a 3rd tier RB? Especially when you have to start 2 RBs vs 1 QB. Stuid RBs are more important than stud QBs.
I personally never take a QB early. Last year I grabbed Shaub in round 7 and he compared nicely to the top guys. This year I’m counting on Kolb.
That rb theory is outdated
The top running backs are important but the fall off is quick and its essentially a shared backfield league.
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
that was my point
RBs fall off very quickly. At pick #8 I would go with one of the top RBs left or the top WR Johnson over Brees.
Picking the top QB worked for me last year.
It should work for me this year. Brees scored a hell of a lot more than the 2nd tier QBs.
OzzieOzzieOzzie: What's the first thing you're gonna do when you get there?
MannyTheTorpedoes: play rly good then stop, hate u an take ur monies
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Sep 8, 2010 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions
thats why fantasy football is so great
everyone has their own ideas and sees the results. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn’t. FF isn’t just about your first round pick, so this is kind of a silly discussion. I am only stating that the point differential between top RB and WR and mid-level guys is much greater than the difference between Brees and Schaub (last years example). Especially when you factor in 2 starting RBs and 3 starting WR’s vs 1 starting QB.
Good luck
Ha I couldn't agree more.
OzzieOzzieOzzie: What's the first thing you're gonna do when you get there?
MannyTheTorpedoes: play rly good then stop, hate u an take ur monies
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Sep 8, 2010 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Value based drafting right?
Schaub hooked it up for me last year too. Kolb may be a good option in my 5th/6th round snake.
That's my point
with value based drafting after the first 6-7 rbs. blah. Changes a little with scoring system.
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
that happened in one of mine where i held out for a bit,
and ended up with cutler. rest of team is solid but very very big ? w/cutler as qb, probably going to try to swing a trade for somebody like flacco or eli
Hope he’s not writing the 2011 White Sox Anal too. -Sox Machine
dont. Cutler will be fine fantasy wise and have a huge year.
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
yeah i want to believe that
guess its my bears bias that makes me think he will suck again
Hope he’s not writing the 2011 White Sox Anal too. -Sox Machine
no way Cutler doesnt pass for 4000+ yards and roughly 30 tds
injury but he’s a strong kid
Ramirez’s actual answer: "That’s a stupid question. I’m here to play baseball and that has nothing to do with playing baseball."
Cora’s translation: "I’m just worried about playing baseball. I’m not worried about hair or nothing."
I hope so.
My commish screwed the live draft settings, pushed it back a few hours when I wasn’t going to be able to do it, and I didn’t have time to set my auto picks.
I got stuck with Cutler, and as Big Ben is my backup. Seeing as he’s out for the first four games and the fifth week is his bye week… Yeah, I’m hoping about Cutler.
"OzzieOzzieOzzie: eep"
by South Side Expat on Sep 8, 2010 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah I was thinking I would grab Flacco in the 7th and grab Ben to backup...
I normally draft a QB late. If WR’s are flying off the board in the 2nd round before it gets back to me and I cant justify the top two WR’s as 2nd and 3rd picks, I may take a Romo. If Peyton gets to me at 24 i guess I can’t pass that up either.
Jim Cramer on CNBC is talking fantasy football.
If that doesn’t show you fuckers that FF has jumped the shark, nothing will.
I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT
It also shows me you watch Jim Cramer.
"OzzieOzzieOzzie: eep"
by South Side Expat on Sep 8, 2010 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Once I realized he was on in the background I changed it.
I hate that guy.
I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT
oh you didn't know?
while wu downplayed it that he was a little too gregarious for his old office, the real reason is that they couldn’t stand all the fucking sound effects and prop comedy.
These events have me frightened and on the verge of evacuating my bowels.
Frickin' China and their knockoff mouse...

"OzzieOzzieOzzie: eep"
by South Side Expat on Sep 8, 2010 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions
i get to sit and watch an entire game for the first time in a week
AND ITS TAKING FOR FUCKING EVER TO START
FNS and his walkoff.
I guess one man's pain in the ass is another’s perfect fit.
by mick10 on Sep 1, 2010 2:39 PM EDT

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