Hush money: White Sox pick up Guillen's 2012 option
The first day of SoxFest stored a pleasant surprise for Ozzie Guillen, as the Sox picked up his option for 2012.
On the same day, he launched OzzieGuillen.com.
I doubt the Sox brass planned a tandem announcement, but it might as well have been a joint venture. Based on what Kenny Williams did this offseason, and what Guillen has said over the past 24 hours, it seems like both of them have reached a clear understanding:
"You can have your money, but you can't have the B.S."
Money problems don't just ruin marriages -- they also served as fault lines underneath the shaky relationship between manager and general manager. The first Oney Guillen incident came after the Sox rejected the idea of the Ozzie website, which cost the Guillen family several thousand dollars according to Mark Gonzales. In the second Twitter-related controversy, Ozzie Guillen scoffed at the $50,000 signing bonus the Sox offered to Ozney Guillen, saying, "I got 50 grand in my pocket to send my kid to Niketown."
Before the season ended, Guillen postured like mad -- asking for an extension without asking for it, openly wondering about the Cubs' managerial opening and saying without saying, "It'd sure be great to be fired!" After Williams failed to flinch, Guillen said he just wanted to know how the Sox felt about him before he considered business investments in Chicago.
In a way, I'm somewhat disappointed by this news, because it would have been riveting to watch Ozzie the Lame Duck wade his way through a high-stakes season. But Williams, Jerry Reinsdorf and the rest of the front office had their own economy to consider.
When weighing only his managing, Guillen isn't a liability. His teams are known for getting a ton out of starting pitching (that's good!) and running into way too many outs (that's bad!). He doesn't stand out too much otherwise, because some weaknesses -- wanting a speedy leadoff guy, preferring veterans, desiring a LOOGY -- can be found in most other managers. The Chicago media lauds Ron Gardenhire from far away, while a lot of Twins fans hate the way he's shaped his middle infield (railroading Jason Bartlett and J.J. Hardy, for example). There's a trade-off in every situation.
In this case, Williams had three questions:
- Is Guillen a good fit for this roster?
- If his contract originally ended in 2012, would it really matter?
- Can picking up the option ease tensions?
The first question is an easy yes, because the roster is essentially Ozzie-proof. Thanks to Williams regaining control of the DH spot, Guillen already has a batting order that makes sense, and there's still two months until the season starts. And while he's being charitable to Mark Teahen, I wouldn't pay too much attention to the "slap in the face" quote. Just remember, in their final week of contention last season, Omar Vizquel started at third four times, Brent Morel twice, and Teahen never. That's all I need to know, because if he played Morel in September, he'd play him in April. At the same time, Morel has never participated in a full spring training with the big leaguers -- he still has proving to do. So far, everything Ozzie is saying about third base is appropriate.
I'd answer "no" to No. 2. Before Oney intervened, I can't say I ever thought that much about Guillen's contract status, because he wasn't the reason his team didn't make the playoffs. It's not like he has a decline phase to worry about.
Since the first two questions have favorable answers, it makes the third issue easier to resolve. Guillen has verbally extended an olive branch insisting he's a new man and will control his kids. I wouldn't take his word for it, but based on the reports of genuinely good vibes between the parties at SoxFest (which wasn't the case last year), it seems the time was right for a compromise.
This decision is meeting halfway. Guillen doesn't get the extension he wanted, but he does get an extra year of security to build Ozzie, Inc. Meanwhile, it's abundantly clear that 2011 isn't a year to dick around, so Williams is putting an even heavier onus on the Guillen camp to keep his personal and professional lives separate. If he has to start other businesses to keep family members from affecting White Sox business, then so be it, and if all goes well, money won't be an issue for at least another 10 months or so.
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Hush, Hush- Thought I heard you calling my name now.
"juicy delicious meats in my mouth-hole"- HSA
by DrEmilioLizardo on Jan 22, 2011 12:19 AM CST reply actions
Good analysis.
One more issue put to rest for awhile. Now let’s get to marketing the Donkey Kong logo!
By definition, if you have fewer than 3 balls you are normal.
cool!
did he have anything to say about the t-shirt?
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jan 22, 2011 10:35 AM CST up reply actions
Haven't heard yet.
I’m 800 miles away from the action.
THIS NEW ARRANGEMENT SHOULD BE POOTY GOO
by Jim Margalus on Jan 22, 2011 10:58 AM CST up reply actions
I've never even seen a Hilton
Much less specific ones.
THIS NEW ARRANGEMENT SHOULD BE POOTY GOO
by Jim Margalus on Jan 22, 2011 11:09 AM CST up reply actions
So who carried your water re: Che?
And that is fantastic. Wonder if he enjoyed the likeness.
By definition, if you have fewer than 3 balls you are normal.
The answer...
… is in a FanPost.
THIS NEW ARRANGEMENT SHOULD BE POOTY GOO
by Jim Margalus on Jan 23, 2011 1:20 AM CST up reply actions
the jesse crain
Late last season, KW asked Ozzie and Coop what RP they wanted next year, both mentioned two guys, and one was Jesse Crain.
cowley already hates morel
Way too much Morel love right now. He still has to win the job, then we’ll see where he’s at.
bill james
certainly bullish on morel… but i guess that’s his m.o.
by evenyoudorn on Jan 22, 2011 11:05 AM CST up reply actions
OZ stresses starting 9 will play final week of ST, but only 3b is in question with Morel's job to lose
This reminds me too much of Brian N. Anderson in '07.
By definition, if you have fewer than 3 balls you are normal.
Don't start the BA stuff again... f'n yankee pitcher
"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"
And Jim breathes a sigh of relief
Ozzie: whether you come in 6th, 7th, 8th, 9th, at the time, you’re the closer. That’s not gonna help Matt Thornton break the bank next year.
http://twitter.com/CSNChi_Beatnik/status/28856296585302016
"I'm the Chicago man. I'm vital in Chicago." -Willy Ohman, Act 1
by mechanical turk on Jan 22, 2011 10:54 AM CST reply actions
I like it!
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
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My gut says Peavy shouldn't be ready
Even if he is.
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by Jim Margalus on Jan 22, 2011 11:07 AM CST up reply actions
i said awhile ago that i didn't see any reason to assume peavy wouldn't be ready for opening day.
if he really is throwing off a mound right now, i still don’t. it’s a unique injury, so who really knows, but he got hurt in early july. april doesn’t seem all that unreasonable to me.
Don't mind me, I'm just moralizing
from a “Boy Who Cried Wolf” perspective. “But you said you were fine when your lat flew off your bone!”
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by Jim Margalus on Jan 22, 2011 11:14 AM CST up reply actions
that's inherent to most professional athletes.
if you’re all in, peavy isn’t treated with kid gloves.
But you don't rush a unique injury, either.
By definition, if you have fewer than 3 balls you are normal.
Agreed
You’re ready when you’re ready and everyone heals at different rates. Odd injuries make timetables even more ridiculous because you have no data to help you make guesses on recovery time.
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If the team got 20-25 starts from Peavy
that would be huge.
Does UZR take into consideration the JumpThrow?
Hahn: Rather than sign 1 max-contract guy, we prefer to use that $ to acquire/re-sign/trade for multiple guys, build complete team.
No one particular. It was a dumb question from a audience guy.
“Why don’t the Sox ever go sign a true ace? "
busy weaving laurel wreath for k dawg and JR. These guys are straight up gangsta this year. -LT_sox_fan on Dec 15, 2010
by South Side Expat on Jan 22, 2011 4:27 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
KenWo talking about Freddy again, I bet.
By definition, if you have fewer than 3 balls you are normal.
you mean the 17 mill in peavy?
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Sliding headfirst into 1B: don't do it -- Juan Pierre.
http://twitter.com/cherann23/statuses/28902635734040576
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cowley is surprised that sox fans don't care for silly distractions, manufactured or not
Not one Oney question – surprising.
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jan 22, 2011 1:59 PM CST reply actions
Do the 2011 White Sox also come with a free Frogurt?
Is the frogurt also cursed?
Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jan 22, 2011 2:19 PM CST reply actions
I have never been so excited for a season to start in my life.
I can’t wait for Opening Day.
Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jan 22, 2011 2:22 PM CST reply actions
You weren't excited for Opening Day 2006?
by Ozzie Montana on Jan 22, 2011 2:39 PM CST up reply actions
I'm more excited about '11 than I was about '06, yes.
Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jan 22, 2011 2:55 PM CST up reply actions
He was 10 at the time.
Give him a break. He slept through the ’05 WS. Past his bedtime.
By definition, if you have fewer than 3 balls you are normal.
by winningugly on Jan 22, 2011 4:20 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Nice that around here even a personal opinion about a personal mindset can be wrong.
I didn’t know you motherfuckers were all telepaths.
Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jan 22, 2011 6:54 PM CST up reply actions
of course it can be wrong.
just because you believe something that only applies to you doesn’t make it right.
i’ll set the godwin’s law countdown clock ticking now.
And you can join them in the 'kiss my ass' line too.
Your 2011 Chicago White Sox: Donkey Kong!!!
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Jan 22, 2011 9:31 PM CST up reply actions
Dunn sitting next to Frank Thomas is a sight to behold.
busy weaving laurel wreath for k dawg and JR. These guys are straight up gangsta this year. -LT_sox_fan on Dec 15, 2010
by South Side Expat on Jan 22, 2011 2:38 PM CST via mobile reply actions
Dunn on choosing #WhiteSox: "They were already really good. Getting later in my career, winning takes precedence over everything."
That kind of statement is always good to hear.
I know, standard player boilerplate warning, etc., etc., but at the same time it shows that Dunn may be playing with a ticking clock in the back of his head. Motivated lefty masher> TeaVizDayan platoon at the “DH position”
by KirollosStadion on Jan 22, 2011 4:54 PM CST up reply actions
he could have been offered more (by another team) if he waited it out a little longer
"I never say one bad thing about those stupid fucking Cubs fans. Not a single word about those mother-shitting pieces of fuck"
by onlysoxfaninbasel on Jan 23, 2011 3:45 AM CST up reply actions
So the downtown Sports Authority
still has a Garland jersey mixed in with the Konerko, Ramirez-99’s (also gone), Quentins, and Rioses on the fifth floor. How is there still a Garland, and yet no Dunns?
"And he rips one into left! Konerko, grand slam!" —Joe Buck, 23 Oct 2005. Yes, I have had the date wrong for this long.
underrated
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
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world series winnah.
i’d see no problem in wearing a garland jersey these days.
ramirez-99 would be shameful though.
unless you're latino
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
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Any Griffey-17's out there?
"There he was!!! Dirtying his shiny Sox helmet!!!" - homesickalien at the brief glimpse of Manny Ramirez
by Servant2LordBeckham on Jan 22, 2011 10:14 PM CST up reply actions
Brent Morel
Please help me out with my pre-season simulation data. What kind of defensive rating would you give Brent Morel at 3B? Thanks!
5 – Great
4 – Good
3 – Average
2- Below average
1 – Sucks
4.5 an option?
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4-5
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by omnipotent grab on Jan 23, 2011 1:12 AM CST up reply actions
Grood
The only glove he needs is a batting glove. - RWShow on Adam Dunn signing.
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by blackoutsox on Jan 23, 2011 1:22 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
4.5 an option?
When I was a kid, I didn't want to be a doctor or a fireman. I wanted to be Super Mario. It's the most literal pipe dream I've ever had.
2005 White Sox
By any chance, did anyone take any home or professional independent video of the White Sox bleachers in 2005?
I’m looking for video of the bleachers on July 08, 2005 from the Bleacher walkway. Mainly center field to right field and I’d be willing to pay for the video.

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