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whatever he's just as good as cliff politte when we signed him.

hopefully they don’t make it rain on him though.

Kenwo4life=ratings

by KenWo4LiFe on Jan 7, 2011 6:13 PM CST reply actions  

How close is Coop to fixing him?

I don’t mind this.

Two rights make one wrong

by Rhubarb on Jan 7, 2011 6:14 PM CST reply actions  

Ohhh maaaannnn...

hee

"We're going to try and knock the crap out of everybody." ~ Brian Urlacher
"Bickell to Brouwer to Bolland...BANG!" ~ Pat Foley, 12-26-10

Halladay, Oswalt, Hamels, AND LEE!! HELL YES!

by HappyHuman on Jan 7, 2011 6:16 PM CST reply actions  

I am not a dime a dozen! I am Willy Ohman!

And you are Biff Ohman!

THIS NEW ARRANGEMENT SHOULD BE POOTY GOO

by Jim Margalus on Jan 7, 2011 6:39 PM CST reply actions  

That's a nice stink

"'This is an issue Ozzie Guillen obviously feels very passionately about. Ozzie certainly has his own experiences as a player, coach and manager, and is entitled to his own opinions, but the Chicago White Sox believe his views are incorrect.'' - (What should be the) White Sox official statement (on the DH issue and coveting speed over OPS)

by justjc on Jan 7, 2011 6:53 PM CST up reply actions  

He does if he can finish his changeup

He went to it a lot in college, but basically abandoned it during his crash course.

THIS NEW ARRANGEMENT SHOULD BE POOTY GOO

by Jim Margalus on Jan 7, 2011 7:02 PM CST up reply actions  

Doesn't he already have 2 plus pitches?

The post-draft report on him on FutureSox says his fastball and changeup are both both and his slider is average but effective against lefties. He can strike out righties and lefties, and he gets groundballs. Obviously he’d be more dominant out of the pen, but I don’t see why he can’t be an effective starter.

http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/future-sox/chris-sale.html

by marv3mania on Jan 7, 2011 7:09 PM CST up reply actions  

At this particular moment, yes.

I was expecting a Freddy-like acquisition.

"It's like an elephant rodeo in there."

by RWShow on Jan 7, 2011 8:35 PM CST up reply actions  

i wish teams would take opportunities like these to get creative

like go with a half a four man, where whoever has to start the 5th day only has to go 3 plus a Pena/Sale piggyback. bring in whoever has more of a platoon advantage!

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jan 7, 2011 9:19 PM CST up reply actions  

I have no idea if you're serious or not, but

I recall Steve Stone talking about 4 man rotations a few years back. He thinks that, as a result of the high cost of starting pitching in comparison to relief pitching, there will eventually be a forward-thinking GM who will go to a 4 man.

No doubt it would be an interesting experiment.

"It's like an elephant rodeo in there."

by RWShow on Jan 7, 2011 11:15 PM CST up reply actions  

Wouldn't that mean at least one more roster spot for a reliever? I think managers might, uh, balk at that idea.

Though I wouldn’t put it past Beane.

"My role hads not changed: Old punching bag." -winningugly

by Uribe Down on Jan 8, 2011 12:57 AM CST up reply actions  

i'm at least half-serious

i know that the situation is such that experimentation brings scrutiny so i’m not going to lament someone not wanting to put his head on a block. but i really do think there are gains to be had in spreading innings and using perhaps lesser talented pitchers who get away with it because they only go once or twice through the lineup. the replacement level reliever has the same ERA as an average starter. there are gains to be had.

Fireworks: Bang?

by colintj on Jan 8, 2011 1:50 AM CST up reply actions  

That's a style of baseball I do not want to see.

"My role hads not changed: Old punching bag." -winningugly

by Uribe Down on Jan 8, 2011 2:02 AM CST up reply actions  

I don't see why not Pena as a full-time fifth starter until Peavy is ready.

He has proven that he can at least pitch the innings, why mess around with pitchers’ schedules? At that point they only need one or two more relievers if you use Gregory Infante. That would allow Chris Sale to go fill out the bullpen or go to the minors.

by Daniel Berlyn on Jan 8, 2011 6:02 PM CST up reply actions  

I had been worried about the bullpen...

But not so much anymore. Adding Ohman means Sale could start and Thornton could do whatever (close, set-up, highest leverage situation, etc.) while still having a lefty specialist. And since Crain > Not Scott Linebrink > Scott Linebrink, I’m not too concerned about the late innings.

by marv3mania on Jan 7, 2011 7:19 PM CST reply actions  

As long as it's only for a year

I’m fine with it.

The ghost of Brian Anderson haunts the White Sox in the form of Mark Kotsay.

by BaconSlayer09 on Jan 7, 2011 9:21 PM CST reply actions  

Not the same panache as "all-in".

Can you just send my ass to my house so I don’t have to carry it home?

by winningugly on Jan 7, 2011 9:26 PM CST up reply actions  

WSB: We're All In

Certain restrictions apply, offer not valid in Alaska or Hawaii.

by Ozzie Montana on Jan 7, 2011 10:04 PM CST up reply actions  

if we could get him for the same price as we did last year

that’d be fantastic. i doubt it though. he had a decent showing.

by craigws on Jan 7, 2011 10:39 PM CST up reply actions  

they still need another arm in the pen too.

i'm eager to see which of you is going to put his jacket down first so as to ensure the other’s dress doesn’t get wet. by craigws

by e-gus on Jan 7, 2011 10:59 PM CST up reply actions  

He'll want $2-3MM (Boras is his agent)

and settle for $1.5-2MM. We got a deal last year.

Can you just send my ass to my house so I don’t have to carry it home?

by winningugly on Jan 8, 2011 9:00 AM CST up reply actions  

Tangentially Related, but why isn't Willy Aybar getting more attention?

I saw that the Rays declined his option and he’s a free agent who, as recently as 2009, was dubbed the best utility player in the majors (fangraphs, of course).

I understand that there’s no place for him on the White Sox, what with our All-Star subs of Visquel and Teahens, so it isn’t all that surprising he isn’t talked about here, and the declining of his option made it impossible to add him to the arm-chair GM competition at Sox Machine, but I would have expected to run across this when it happened.

Actually, I’m amazed he isn’t with on the A’s or Red Sox already.

Just thought I’d get that out there ;)

It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT

by rhythm on Jan 8, 2011 12:23 AM CST reply actions  

And then I read on draysbay that he's still under team control, despite having his option declined

Let’s see, mlbtraderumors and his wikipedia entry list him as a free agent, draysbay has him under team control. This needs to be rectified, and fast.

THUMB WAR!!!!

It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT

by rhythm on Jan 8, 2011 12:28 AM CST up reply actions  

Someone is wrong on the internet!

"My role hads not changed: Old punching bag." -winningugly

by Uribe Down on Jan 8, 2011 12:29 AM CST up reply actions  

Never EVER happened before.

Ever.

Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death

by Hazymania on Jan 8, 2011 12:56 AM CST up reply actions  

this one time back in 82'

I saw something mis-quoted. Alas, mistakes happen.

"There's too many (bleeping) guys on the computer. It's simple. I say that. Pete Rose never watched a computer. Rod Carew never did. All those hitters, they go out and see the ball, hit it and move on." - Ozzie

by usualsuspect on Jan 8, 2011 1:29 PM CST up reply actions  

"Somewhere, someone on the internet is wrong and it's my duty to find them and correct them"

I was at a summer school of sorts and one of the guys said something to that effect when asked if he was going to join us for a round or two. One of the better excuses to stay in that I’ve ever heard.

It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT

by rhythm on Jan 8, 2011 11:51 PM CST up reply actions  

never heard rehab referred to as summer school before. good work.

Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.

by MarketMaker on Jan 9, 2011 12:58 PM CST up reply actions   2 recs

Some call it a "business trip", too.

Can you just send my ass to my house so I don’t have to carry it home?

by winningugly on Jan 10, 2011 12:37 PM CST up reply actions  

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