Alexei Ramirez is fine
Out of the millions of words I've read about baseball, I hold one thought by Bill James above all the rest:
"It’s a characteristic of bad front offices to obsess about the secondary characteristics of their best players."
It's a great quote because you can replace "front offices" with "writers," "bloggers" or "fans," and it's just as true. Or you can apply it to different aspects of life by replacing "players" with "partners." Or "bosses." Or "bars." Basically, anyone who weighs in on the value of anything should keep this in mind. Demand too much of a good situation and you'll likely find yourself worse off.
And that brings us to Mark Gonzales' article about Alexei Ramirez, which is, at the very least, a curious place to start sifting through the wreckage of the 2011 season. Especially when they key sentence says the Sox "must have improvement from middle class players like Ramirez."
The rationale?
There were too many times in 2011 that flies hit to shallow left and left-center field fell safely. Those incidents no longer can be blamed on left fielder Juan Pierre if he does not re-sign with the Sox. And defense should be a point of emphasis next spring with center fielder Alex Rios, who also took some adventuresome routes on drives that sailed over his head. [...]
But there were too many instances where a throw to second base would sail into center field, with Ramirez in the vicinity but not able to catch it. Instead of a runner potentially being wiped out, he would wind up at third base where he could score on an array of plays.
These instances have kept occurring even though catcher A.J. Pierzynski called out Ramirez in the tunnel of the Metrodome in July of 2009.
If I had to sum up the problems with this article in one sentence, I'd just say that in order to construct a case against Ramirez, Gonzales has to associate him with the defensive shortcomings of three other players. Pierre was so timid in left that he yielded to Brent Morel on a normal-depth fly. Rios was shaky in all directions, but he had big-time problems on shallow breaks.
And Pierzynski ... well, first of all, I could probably count on one hand all the throws that "sailed" into center field. More likely, they skipped or trickled past a falling Ramirez after one or two hops on the wrong side of second. On top of that, the next time Pierzynski points the finger at himself will be the first. Ozzie Guillen didn't really stand for much in his final year, but one of his finer moments came when he told Pierzynski to own up to his miserable success rate.
That's not to absolve Ramirez entirely, because he has his flaws. He's not a versatile hitter, which leaves him prone to slumps. He's exceptionally unphysical, which makes his errors feel worse because they have an element of giving up on the play.
But if the Sox "must have improvement" from Ramirez in order to compete in 2012, they're screwed.
Some players are just naturally frustrating. J.D. Drew, for instance, performed like the model player during his prime. Swinging, running or throwing, everything he did looked perfect, and nobody could quibble with his rate stats, either. But he also had a natural habit of missing 20-40 games a year, which led observers to fill in the gaps on their own. On top of that, he came off as passive and uninterested, and so they were more than satisfied to pin the underachievement on him.
Ramirez has similar holes in the game, in that they leave a lot to the imagination. If he held his ground around baserunners ... if he didn't fall into deep slumps ... if he didn't have those occasional lapses on routine plays ...
... yeah, and if only he weren't 30 years old.
Granted, we had to give Ramirez a little more ceiling than normal because of his international status. We didn't have reliable stats and extensive scouting from his Cuban League days, so we had to project off what he showed right in front of us. He switched positions, he made some visible offensive adjustments, and that delayed the final verdict of his game.
But his 2011 confirmed what he showed over his first three seasons. He makes more plays than just about anybody on the edges of his range, but will give back of a little of that gain on misplays around the bag. He's not an offensive centerpiece because his bat will hibernate for a month of the year. Despite his flaws, he still contributes more than enough at a demanding position, which makes him one of the team's most valuable players -- especially since he's still delivering more than he's getting paid for.
That doesn't mean he's beyond reproach. Alligator arms are a failing, and should be regarded as such when they make an appearance. When he grounds into a 5-4-3 double play because he can only hit the ball in the direction of the third baseman, he should be treated no differently than Alex Rios on his grounders to the left side.
But what we -- the media, bloggers, the Sox -- shouldn't do is rely on him for more than he's shown. If he hasn't blossomed into a four- or five-tool guy by now, why would he start after turning 30?
And what we definitely shouldn't do is hold him accountable for chief flaws of his teammates. When Alejandro De Aza replaced Pierre in left, his assertiveness in the outfield was readily apparent. While Pierre repeatedly glanced at players in front of him before making up his mind to try to catch a shallow fly, De Aza played traffic cop and called off Morel and Ramirez before they even had a chance to get in the way. And then there's Tyler Flowers. He isn't a defensive stalwart, but he didn't have Pierzynski's problems throwing out basestealers because he put his throws on the right line, and often in the air, too!
If I had to make a list of the players who "must improve" to put the White Sox back in contention, it would start with Adam Dunn and Alex Rios. Followed by Gordon Beckham and Morel. Then John Danks, Jake Peavy and Gavin Floyd. Matt Thornton, if Chris Sale moves to the rotation. Dayan Viciedo, and then De Aza (who must improve on Pierre's production, not his own).
Basically, you get through half the returning roster before Ramirez even enters the picture. The White Sox have too many real problems to deal with, so why waste time addressing ones they don't have?
Postscripts
*If I were trying to convince somebody of the legitimacy of WAR, I would avoid bringing up Ramirez. First, there's a massive discrepancy between the two kinds. According to FanGraphs, he contributed a team-leading 4.9 WAR. According to Baseball-Reference, he was second to Paul Konerko with 3.3 WAR. Either number underscores the fact that Ramirez gave his team plenty in spite of his deficiencies, but that's a difficult difference to explain to a skeptic.
And then you have his defense. I thought his glove was slightly sturdier in 2010, but FanGraphs and UZR give him enough credit for defensive improvement in 2011 to tip the WAR scales. I'm not sure which one's right, but I know I can make the same point without opening that box. So with players like Ramirez, I think it's better to leave WAR out of it unless everybody's speaking the same language.
*Since Ramirez didn't improve around the bag much, can we pin the blame on Omar Vizquel?
*In a double-whammy, on a day that we get analysis that leaves a lot to be desired from the city's biggest paper, we also learn that we're losing the services of the most open-minded White Sox beat writer around.
CSNChicago.com decided to let go of our friend Brett Ballantini, which really creates a void in coverage since he was the most social/conversation of the bunch. As I tweeted earlier, he's the only beat writer who consistently treated bloggers -- and non-bloggers -- like adults. If you had a good question, he'd answer it or find out in pretty quick order, instead of waiting for a monthly mailbag. On the very rare occasions he made a mistake, he would draw attention to the correction to make sure the right info was clear, instead of pretending like it never happened.
And if you raised a unique and worthwhile point, he gave you credit in one form or another, whereas some beat writers will repurpose the insights and pass it off as their own.
The stat stuff is great, too, because too many people seem to be afraid of FanGraphs or Baseball-Reference.com unless it backs up a conclusion they already drew. But that takes a backseat to the fact that he appreciates his readers and shares a mutual enjoyment in the game. Throw in his visits to South Side Sox, and he was really a full-service beat writer.
Hopefully Brett will move on to a bigger and better gig, which hopefully won't prevent him from dropping in here and giving us a deeper understanding of the guys we're watching (and, at this time of the year, hypothetically trading away). And hopefully his participation with his audience made an impression on his peers. I understand why beat writers aren't particularly joyful about their jobs, because it can grow taxing and monotonous in a hurry, but when everybody shares the same root interest, it doesn't take a whole lot of effort to form a connection.
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terrible news on Brett
hopefully he can linger as the anti-cowley. Still writes about the team but actually isn’t an asshole who has no idea what he’s doing.
NAOPOS
why you talking bout mr handsome like that?
or, the champ as it were?
"Rhubarb, if you wouldn’t mind, ram your taint into your monitor as hard as you can." - joewho112
Do you think
he went after Ramirez because going after Dunn, Rios, and to a lesser extent, Peavy, is just too easy and has been done already?
Obviously, he’s a misinformed ass for knocking the Sox’s 1st or 2nd most valuable position player. To make matters worse, he says Ramirez must have Gold Glove caliber D to improve. Because in 2011, he led the MLB in SS UZR, a year after coming in second in said category.
I think this has been shared on here before, but I think one reason Ramirez’s UZR is so dominant (besides his lateral range on ground balls) is how fucking far he often goes to get outfield flies. Which of course, the author said was a potential area of improvement.
“But it will be up to… perhaps batting coach Joe McEwing, who could take over some of the infield coaching duties along with Ventura, to make sure Ramirez takes the next step toward becoming a Gold Glove shortstop that everyone earlier had envisioned.”
No, it will be up to the batting coach to make sure the players bat correctly. Making your batting coach teach fielding is as stupid as making sure your DH can field well.
LeBron James: Which of His Blessings would you deny?
"Making your batting coach teach fielding is as stupid as making sure your DH can field well."
Or expecting Mark Teahen to hold down a corner position when even Kansas City deemed him unfit for anything beyond utility work.
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by Jim Margalus on Oct 14, 2011 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
isn't mcewing going to be a base coach? hes not the batting coach anyway
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
i would like to see how che ranks in the 2011 fielding bible awards
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by onlysoxfaninbasel on Oct 14, 2011 3:54 AM CDT reply actions
Yet Cowley remains employed?
This is why I’m an atheist.
WU got his ass handed to him by the Shit Rooster, of all people! Priceless.
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by Chiburb on Oct 14, 2011 6:19 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 8 recs
i would think that this would make you
a devil worshiper.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
2 sides of the same coin.
WU got his ass handed to him by the Shit Rooster, of all people! Priceless.
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MG could have waited until the Golden Globes awards are announced.
I think Ramirez has a legitimate chance to win it. Every player can always be better, but Ramirez is one fine SS among the current shortstops in the AL
lol
I meant Gold Glove…. I guess I was not entirely awaken when I typed my post.
by JofpGallagher on Oct 14, 2011 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
The comedy being the 2011 CWS, sadly. :)
by ParisSox on Oct 14, 2011 12:48 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
MG's part II article will rip 15,000 sq ft
(hint: he should have pushed harder to be the player-manger) [not a typo]
White Sox 2012: Helplessly hoping.
This is why I come here for my Sox news
Seriously, living in Europe, we rely on the intrawebs to follow our team. When I first arrived, Chicagosports.com was the place to go. But I always felt the coverage lacking. They never filled in the “why?” .. they just reported and offered no real analysis. Then I found SSS and my life changed. With in depth analysis by our cellar dwellers (bygones), I can understand why Ramirez is very good but not super great. I have arguments to back up my “Jeter now blows as a SS” debate with Yankees fans. I understand infinitely more about the White Sox than I ever could by just following Merkin, et al. And this is no exaggeration.
So I thank you Jim and all of SSS.
You and Hoodlight should have a meet-up in the Chunnel.
I think he’s in Leeds.
Or Peoria.
WU got his ass handed to him by the Shit Rooster, of all people! Priceless.
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Will be in the Chunnel next weekend
To go see da Bears play Tampa at Wembley.
nice.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Oct 14, 2011 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
"Hi Brett, Rob Neyer here..."
“Was thinking you’d be perfect to take over SBN Chicago as editor/reporter for all things baseball. Yellon is going to be pretty busy with his Cubs site, especially with Theo coming on as GM. Besides, there’s kind of a conflict of interest when he’s doing a Sox story, and he doesn’t know them very well either. Seems most of his info comes from friends instead of watching the team or reading Margalus & crew. Anyway, think it over for a couple of days and let me know”.
A guy can dream, can’t he?
WU got his ass handed to him by the Shit Rooster, of all people! Priceless.
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by Chiburb on Oct 14, 2011 7:37 AM CDT reply actions 8 recs
al's got a lot of friends who are sox fans.
by larry on Oct 14, 2011 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Nepotism is being challenged in Chicago these days.
Front page WSJ article yesterday.
"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!
by winningugly on Oct 14, 2011 10:58 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
"Why can't we ever stop talking about the Cubs?"
“Peavy for Zambrano, the time to act is now.”
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 14, 2011 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions
The list of "guys who need to improve" that you make here...
is 100% accurate. Ramirez is nowhere near the top.
very strange Trib article...
to say the least.
Who dis?
How’s rehab?
"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!
by winningugly on Oct 14, 2011 10:58 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Ramirez pay scale
I think at 5 mil in 2012 and 7 mil in 2013 sox will love having alexei, I think things get a lot different when he goes to 9.5 in 2014 and then 10 mil in 2015 and 2016…. expectations have to be a bit higher when you go into 8 figure territory.
2016 isn't too much of a concern though since that's an option
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
Also $10 translates to less than 2 WAR assuming some inflation, so he only needs to be average to be more than worth it
oh definitely, but
with players like Ramirez, I think it’s better to leave WAR out of it unless everybody’s speaking the same language
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
Even at 10 mil per season he should be a good deal...
assuming he maintains something close to his current level of play. He won’t be the steal he was and currently is, but he should have no trouble justifying that contract. Also remember that by that time, the wonder twins will be off the payroll, so that number will be much easier to absorb.
by polodude017 on Oct 14, 2011 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Average it out.
He’s played above his contract, and will probably play at, then below. It’ll probably be a solid deal once it’s all said and done.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Oct 14, 2011 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Che is solid (enough for the Sox, anyway).
Really, what’s the alternative in the woeful foreseeable future? There are much bigger, more expensive fish to fry. Perhaps Che could rid himself of alligator arms by knocking back a few cold ones in-between innings. At a minimum, it would make the ugly chicks in the stands look much hotter by the 9th inning.
As for AJ’s suckage, it’s true he can’t throw anyone out, but a substantial number of those steals can be attributed to pitchers slow to the plate and/or oblivious to runners. It’s kind of tough to throw someone out when the runner has taken 4 strides by the time the ball is released.
"Yeah, and you'll be batting ninth."
In regards to the plays at second on a SB attempt...
I believe it is Stone that always makes such a big deal about Alexei standing in front of the bag and swiping back with the tag. Do you guys put a lot of stock in this? Or is this just Stone making something our of nothing?
by polodude017 on Oct 14, 2011 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
We tend to know the Sox the best
But I would wager that the case is similar for a lot of catchers other than AJ. And most of them aren’t as bad as AJ at catching base thieves.
by ObsidianXIII on Oct 14, 2011 10:49 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Alexi
This is what I’ve been trying to say about Alexi for two years. Jim, you are a genius with words. Alexi is a wimp around 2nd base and going back for pop flies. He makes everyone around him look worse from time to time!!
Your mentor's address please?
WU got his ass handed to him by the Shit Rooster, of all people! Priceless.
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by Chiburb on Oct 14, 2011 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Did you read the article?
The point was, besides a few short-comings, he’s a very good player. And on a team that is covered with question marks and horrid contracts, he’s the least of our worries.
by polodude017 on Oct 14, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Buehrle doesn't throw 98.
So I hope the Sox don’t re-sign him.
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by Jim Margalus on Oct 14, 2011 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions
I've thought the same thing about Sergio.
If I see one more slider make AJ look bad by having him throw it to first after he drops it, I’m just gonna lose it.
by ScottyPods Ver2.0 on Oct 14, 2011 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Brett's a pretty cool dude. Best of luck to him with his next gig, which I assume will be headmaster of a hot air balloon school. I'd like to think that's what any of us would do, given the chance.
He’s a smart dude with interesting opinions and more insight into the every day ongoings of the club than most of us here, so I do hope he sticks around. Now that he’s not so formal, maybe he can get another username though. Maybe something like Balloontini2005 or SkyCaptainSox.
by mechanical turk on Oct 14, 2011 8:53 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
shouldn't have stopped here.
should’ve mentioned all the shots alexei rips foul down the left field line.
by obnoxious american on Oct 14, 2011 9:03 AM CDT reply actions
very average

a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
by big_fun on Oct 14, 2011 9:35 AM CDT reply actions 4 recs
I don't see anything wrong with questioning all players when it comes to a team's collapse
However, there should be factual evidence if said accusation(s). My 1st thought was to watch every play at or around 2B and see what MG is allegedly seeing. I’d suppose we could agree that Alexi isn’t big on contact around the bag, but he clearly makes up for alleged inefficiencies with his range in getting to balls. Maybe someone here can back that up?
2nd, MG’s note on Alexi not getting to bloop balls in shallow outfield is telling me that he hasn’t watched too many games. Seriously? Jim said it best where either JP or AR had a crappy read on the ball in the 1st place. My hope is whoever plays RF & CF next year will help immensely on correcting that problem.
It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
another typo
if of said accusation
It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
Hey, wait a minute...
If I recall somebody posted a video on this website from SI with Cal Ripken who said that Lexi was the best all-around SS in the AL? We have bigger problems than Lexi. Way bigger.
Sabermetrics hurt my head, just give me the facts.
what explains the discrepancy between fWAR and bWAR?
this seems to be the de facto metric for a players performance these days. Why are the two so out of whack?
by hoodlight on Oct 14, 2011 11:23 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
Mainly defensive score and weight
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
like a doting grandmother, Baseball Reference worries that Alexei is wasting away
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2011/2/28/2019517/using-trammell-and-reuschel-to-explain-war
WU got his ass handed to him by the Shit Rooster, of all people! Priceless.
Chiburb is an assclown. A real life loser and internet bore.
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why don't fangraphs and baseball reference get on the same fucking page and just have one stat?
it says they use different replacement levels or whatever… just split the fucking difference and make me happy.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
i can see why you got fired.
if such high level math as spitting the fucking difference gives you problems.
lol. i shouldn't have to do it. there should be a uniform number for christ sakes.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
Baseball-Reference uses TotalZone and includes baserunning.
FanGraphs uses UZR and does not include baserunning.
Also.
FanGraphs relies on FIP for pitching WAR. B-R does not.
Twitter: @Mike_Fagan_13
Terrible news on Brett
In regards to Alexei as long as he continues to grab balls deep out of that hole I could care less about his shyness around the bag. This reminds me of some criticisms of a few successful receivers. "But he doesn’t go across the middle!’ And? Other ways to score tds.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
this phrase 'i could care less' always amuses me
it implies that you have a care in the first place, here we always say ‘I couldn’t care less’.
same language very different use – har har.
by hoodlight on Oct 14, 2011 12:04 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
That's what we're supposed to say too.
WU got his ass handed to him by the Shit Rooster, of all people! Priceless.
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it's not a one off
in the Sopranos they used that ‘could care less’ a couple of times, always made me laugh
by hoodlight on Oct 14, 2011 12:11 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
maybe not the best example of american speech.
fuck, i don’t know. maybe it is.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
ive always hated that - the 'i could care less'
doesnt make any sense with the point the person is trying to make.
"Rhubarb, if you wouldn’t mind, ram your taint into your monitor as hard as you can." - joewho112
ive heard it said about 50/50
its just something some say while others dont, but everyone knows what that person is trying to say
"Rhubarb, if you wouldn’t mind, ram your taint into your monitor as hard as you can." - joewho112
That's because you Brits annunciate everything.
We don’t have time for that nonsense.
by ParisSox on Oct 14, 2011 1:42 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
enunciate.
and you’re not helping our case.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
Perfect.
Mobile rec.
"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!
by winningugly on Oct 16, 2011 9:22 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
At least you didn't say "your not helping..."
or “ur…” Now that shit bothers me.
Reporter: I was wondering if at any point in my lifetime the Cubs weren't going to be run by a guy who didn't immediately remind me of failure, confusion, or imminent death
lol
No couldn’t care less is correct. Im just lazy.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
I could care less how you use it
but I couldn’t care less if you say it that way.
It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
I'm not doing what the Queen says
I didn’t vote for her anyways (not a typo)
It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
"...grab balls deep out of that hole.."
Sounds naughty, but that’s just my immaturity.
However, I agree. The first time Che gets in front of a guy who snaps his skinny ankle, we’ll all be crying.
"Yeah, and you'll be batting ninth."
dogs in the tub
"Rhubarb, if you wouldn’t mind, ram your taint into your monitor as hard as you can." - joewho112
By the way Alexei lead Baseball Prospectus BWARP for the White Sox
at 3.4 with fielding added.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
Team page link
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
Not that this really needs to be reiterated...
but how sad is it that De Aza was the 3rd or 4th most valuable position player on the team? Jesus the guy only had 171 PA’s!
by polodude017 on Oct 14, 2011 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Bright side my friend
At his pace, MVP next year. “Championship”
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
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it just makes me weak in the knees the way gomez neither fixed or removed his crooked ass helmet after that puntoslide. -Trooper on Oct 5, 2011
by South Side Expat on Oct 14, 2011 1:33 PM CDT reply actions 5 recs
Rad story
Back when Jack McDowell was trying to be a musician in addition to a Cy Young Award winner, his band was playing at the Cabaret Metro. Scott Radinsky was the tambourine player (no joke). They did an in-store appearance at Rose Records on Clark St. before the show. While Black Jack was warming up, Rad was flipping through the CDs right next to me, with his left hand of course. All I could think was, “wow, that arm throws the ball 100 mph.”
And if you were wanting to pick up fat suburban secretaries with fanny packs, Black Jack’s concert was for you.
by ParisSox on Oct 14, 2011 1:55 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
My baseball celebrity story
When I lived in Golden, CO, one of our subs worked for the Rockies. He was Venezuelan, so he was in with the hispanic Rockies players. DeLa Rosa, Jimenez and Corpas all hung out in our dugout. Corpas played an inning for our team but the league manager ran him off. When Corpas was warming up I asked him if he knew how to play.
funny name for a green lantern,
‘maybe’ doesn’t really denote the sort of iron will require for the position.
He's only really a first name off.
And Kyle was easily the best GL since Hal.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
Christ, that is funny.
Coffee spit.
"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!
by winningugly on Oct 16, 2011 9:24 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Radinsky has been lead singer in a punk band called Pulley since the early 90s.
So he’s musically inclined. I’ve got a couple of their records, they are pretty good. Peavy should try to book them for WoodJock 2012. Must be a better draw than Linebrink.
Didn't know that.
Good for Radinsky. Will have to check that out. Any chance he titled a song “LOOGY”?
by ParisSox on Oct 14, 2011 4:32 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Really sucks about Brett.
His all-day Q and A was one of my favorite posts of the year. Hopefully he’ll still post here occasionally, eh?
The policeman who jumps from a bridge to a plane is Detective John McClane, a.k.a. Bruce Willis. He’s just the star of the whole movie series and stuff, no big deal or anything. -Cruiser
I feel like we should all pitch in for a Coopers Hawk gift certificate for he and his wife
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by Rhubarb on Oct 14, 2011 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Thanks, everybody
The comment from chiburb above, on Cowley, made both me and my wife crack up.
Your sympathies have been a great pick-me-up. I am still fairly well stunned over this.
I will be in closer and more frequent touch in future. And yes, perhaps it’s time to grow up and past the lame-ass “Brett” handle on SSS.
But it's so succinct!
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

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