Award Tour: Looking at the White Sox Award Drought
by U-God on Oct 20, 2011 6:00 AM CDT
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The World Series has started. Awards season will soon be upon us. Sure we can expect the White Sox to garner some minor accolades in the forms of a Gold Glove for the incumbent Mark Buehrle and perhaps a long overdue one for Alexei Ramirez, but that's probably all we're going to see. It's fairly safe to say that yet another season has gone by on the south side without a member of the Pale Hose winning one of the big three: MVP, Cy Young, and Rookie of the Year. The last time a White Sox to win these awards were Frank Thomas in 1994, Jack McDowell in 1993, and Ozzie Guillen in 1985. That's right, the White Sox have not had a player win Rookie of the Year in my life time. The last time they had a player win either of the other two major awards I was just starting to lose my baby teeth.
This depressing fact made me wonder where our current cold streak stacked up with the other 29 teams in the league. Using B-R, I compiled a list of the last candidate to win each award for their team. A few facts and interesting tidbits before delving into the lists and charts. The MVP award has been around since 1911. The Cy Young began as one award for both leagues in 1956, eventually becoming an award in both in 1967. The Rookie of the Year began in 1947. Somewhat unsurprisingly, the Diamondbacks, Marlins, and Rays have never had a player win MVP. Surprisingly, the Mets and the Nationals (obviously I am including their years as the Expos) are in that same club. The Reds, the Rockies, the Marlins, the Rays, and the Rangers have never earned a Cy Young. And my personal favorite never-had: the Diamondbacks are the only team in Major League Baseball to have never had a Rookie of the Year.
MVP
| Team | Player | Year Last Won |
| Reds | Joey Votto | 2010 |
| Rangers | Josh Hamilton | 2010 |
| Twins | Joe Mauer | 2009 |
| Cardinals | Albert Pujols | 2009 |
| Red Sox | Dustin Pedroia | 2008 |
| Yankees | Alex Rodriguez | 2007 |
| Phillies | Jimmy Rollins | 2007 |
| Angels | Vladimir Guerrero | 2004 |
| Giants | Barry Bonds | 2004 |
| Athletics | Miguel Tejada | 2002 |
| Mariners | Ichiro Suzuki | 2001 |
| Braves | Chipper Jones | 1999 |
| Diamondbacks | N/A | 1998 |
| Cubs | Sammy Sosa | 1998 |
| Rays | N/A | 1998 |
| Rockies | Larry Walker | 1997 |
| Padres | Ken Caminiti | 1996 |
| White Sox | Frank Thomas | 1994 |
| Astros | Jeff Bagwell | 1994 |
| Marlins | N/A | 1993 |
| Orioles | Cal Ripken Jr. | 1992 |
| Pirates | Barry Bonds | 1992 |
| Brewers | Robin Yount | 1989 |
| Dodgers | Kirk Gibson | 1988 |
| Blue Jays | George Bell | 1987 |
| Tigers | Willie Hernandez | 1984 |
| Royals | George Brett | 1980 |
| Nationals | N/A | 1969 |
| Mets | N/A | 1962 |
| Indians | Al Rosen | 1953 |
Fifteen teams have waited less than us. The Astros' drought is just as long as ours. The average span of years since a team's last claim to the throne? 16.9 years, fitting in quite nicely with our 17 year stretch. Hooray! We're slightly above average! Also, how awesome is it that their is actually a team that has gone longer without winning this award than our very own Winning Ugly has been alive? Very awesome. The answer I was looking for is very awesome. WU, bask in the glow. You've earned it.
Cy Young
| Team | Player | Year Last Won |
| Mariners | Felix Hernandez | 2010 |
| Phillies | Roy Halladay | 2010 |
| Royals | Zack Greinke | 2009 |
| Giants | Tim Lincecum | 2009 |
| Indians | Cliff Lee | 2008 |
| Padres | Jake Peavy | 2007 |
| Diamondbacks | Brandon Webb | 2006 |
| Twins | Johan Santana | 2006 |
| Angels | Bartolo Colon | 2005 |
| Cardinals | Chris Carpenter | 2005 |
| Astros | Roger Clemens | 2004 |
| Dodgers | Eric Gagne | 2003 |
| Blue Jays | Roy Halladay | 2003 |
| Athletics | Barry Zito | 2002 |
| Yankees | Roger Clemens | 2001 |
| Red Sox | Pedro Martinez | 2000 |
| Braves | Tom Glavine | 1998 |
| Rays | N/A | 1998 |
| Nationals | Pedro Martinez | 1998 |
| White Sox | Jack McDowell | 1993 |
| Rockies | N/A | 1993 |
| Marlins | N/A | 1993 |
| Cubs | Greg Maddux | 1992 |
| Pirates | Doug Drabek | 1990 |
| Mets | Dwight Gooden | 1985 |
| Tigers | Willie Hernandez | 1984 |
| Brewers | Pete Vukovich | 1982 |
| Orioles | Steve Stone | 1980 |
| Rangers | N/A | 1960 |
| Reds | N/A | 1956 |
19 shorter droughts, 18 other teams winning the award. Ouch. The average drought is a clean and even 15 years, once again putting us above the average in a bad way. And you can probably just move the Tigers to the top of the list next week. If Justin Verlander somehow doesn't win the Cy Young this year, my head will explode.
Rookie of the Year
| Team | Player | Year Last Won |
| Giants | Buster Posey | 2010 |
| Rangers | Neftali Feliz | 2010 |
| Marlins | Chris Coghlan | 2009 |
| Athletics | Andrew Bailey | 2009 |
| Cubs | Geovany Soto | 2008 |
| Rays | Evan Longoria | 2008 |
| Red Sox | Dustin Pedroia | 2007 |
| Brewers | Ryan Braun | 2007 |
| Tigers | Justin Verlander | 2006 |
| Phillies | Ryan Howard | 2005 |
| Pirates | Jason Bay | 2004 |
| Royals | Angel Berroa | 2003 |
| Rockies | Jason Jennings | 2002 |
| Blue Jays | Eric Hinske | 2002 |
| Mariners | Ichiro Suzuki | 2001 |
| Cardinals | Albert Pujols | 2001 |
| Braves | Rafael Furcal | 2000 |
| Reds | Scott Williamson | 1999 |
| Diamondbacks | N/A | 1998 |
| Dodgers | Todd Hollandsworth | 1996 |
| Yankees | Derek Jeter | 1996 |
| Twins | Marty Cordova | 1995 |
| Angels | Tim Salmon | 1993 |
| Astros | Jeff Bagwell | 1991 |
| Indians | Sandy Alomar Jr. | 1990 |
| Orioles | Gregg Olson | 1989 |
| Padres | Benito Santiago | 1987 |
| White Sox | Ozzie Guillen | 1985 |
| Mets | Dwight Gooden | 1984 |
| Nationals | Andre Dawson | 1977 |
Well that last one was certainly depressing. Two teams. We are higher up on the list than two freaking teams and their rookies were much better than ours. The average waiting period is 11.9 years. We're over double that. Sigh.
So what does all of this tell us? Honestly, nothing really. Alexei Ramirez finished second to Evan Longoria for RotY in 2008. Esteban Loazia trailed only Roy Halladay in votes for the Cy Young in 2003. Frank Thomas narrowly lost to human science fair project Jason Giambi in 2000. Eventually you have to figure we'll catch a break. I guess we just take pride in Gold Gloves and Silver Sluggers til then.
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U-God, you are hilarious.
Good piece. Go back to your severed animal heads. ;)
"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!
uh ohs
http://www.csnchicago.com/blog/whitesox-talk/post/-?blockID=580008&feedID=621
According to Yahoo Sports’ Tim Brown, White Sox assistant general manager Rick Hahn will interview with the Los Angeles Angels about their vacant GM position.
I'm hoping they go with Ng.
Be a nice middle finger to the Dodgers.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
Agreed
Plus she’s totally qualified for the position. She should have had a position years ago and if she wasn’t, you know, female, she would have gotten that shot already. Let’s see if the owners have the cajones to pull the trigger.
Well, boys, it's a round ball and a round bat and you got to hit the ball square. ~Joe Schultz, 1969
oh fuck that.
NO MA’AM
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
by KenWo4LiFe on Oct 20, 2011 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
.
"Statistics are about as interesting as first base coaches" Jim Bouton
by Grinder Rule #42 on Oct 20, 2011 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Not a surprise
As has been mentioned, he is the leagues highest paid assistant. However, you gotta take that next step sometime. If we are not gonna do it here, than he will do that somewhere else.
If reports on the Northside are true
He’ll also have an opportunity to interview in San Diego. Sounds like the Padres are going to lose their entire front office.
3 things in life I care about
Sox, Colts, and Hawks.
Lifetime banners: '05, '07, '10
judging by the team they run out there they've lost it already.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
But no other team got as many mentions on "The Chicago Code."
So, there’s that!!! Boo-ya!
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Oct 20, 2011 7:36 AM CDT reply actions
I saw that too.
I was like Whaaaat
"That baseball is the smartest thing out on that field." —Hawk Harrelson
"Joe Cowely was right!!!!!"
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Oct 20, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
*Cowley
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Oct 20, 2011 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions
OT - but apparently the Padres have "internally discussed"
trading for John Lackey. (Linky)
I’m confused – didn’t they trade Peavy to try and dump a massive salary? Boston must be willing to eat a lot of his remaining money.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Oct 20, 2011 7:41 AM CDT reply actions
If Boston eats half the contract.
The Padres would be getting market value easily. Lackey has homerun issues and those tend to disappear in Petco.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
Fish tacos are healthier than hot dogs.
So there is that.
"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!
That and you have to figure living in San Diego is better for one's mood than living in Boston.
Be a nice pick me up for Mr. Lackey after the all-around shitty year of life he’s just had.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
How's the fried chicken in SD tho?
3 things in life I care about
Sox, Colts, and Hawks.
Lifetime banners: '05, '07, '10
by Kyle321N on Oct 20, 2011 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
It is made out of polyester and woven fabrics
Off-Season Proposition Bet Tally - 1 won - 6 lost
by Rhubarb on Oct 20, 2011 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Lackey is perceived as a big "part of the problem" in Boston
So I wouldn’t be surprised if they eat up lots of his money. Also, it looks like they are really holding the Cubs feet to the fire, maybe they are targeting a ML or almost ML ready pitcher.
He was born after 1985 as indicated by the 'not having a rookie of the year in my lifetime' comment.
I think U, colin and myself are all roughly the same age.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Oct 20, 2011 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Which of these 3 is not like the rest?
WU got his ass handed to him by the Shit Rooster, of all people! Priceless.
Chiburb is an assclown. A real life loser and internet bore.
Mick11's SBN profile.
Well, colin and I are both Michigan Men. U and I both have brown hair.
U and colin don’t have tattoos. So….well, someone’s always on the outside looking in.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Oct 20, 2011 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm an 88er.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
as much as big frank got ripped off in 2000...
albert belle got raped in 1995 by mo vaughn. the indians shouldn’t be that low.
man when i was a kid things looked good.
ROY: Kittle, Guillen by the time i was 6
MVP: Thomas 2 times by the time i was 14
CY: Hoyt, Mcdowell by the time i was 13.
since? nothing.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
They peaked about the same time as you.
WU got his ass handed to him by the Shit Rooster, of all people! Priceless.
Chiburb is an assclown. A real life loser and internet bore.
Mick11's SBN profile.
by Chiburb on Oct 20, 2011 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions 8 recs
agreed on Thomas 2000, Belle 1995.
steroids involved in the former case, east coast bias and voters not liking crazy people in the latter.
mo vaughn winning that year was a complete joke. couldn't agree more.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Oct 20, 2011 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
That was just a weird vote in general.
Belle or Martinez both would have been better choices. Also, Jose Mesa finished 4th. What?
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
yah edgar had some great numbers that year as well.
he would have been a better choice than vaughn. but there is no way that anyone can tell me that albert belle wasn’t the best player in all of baseball that year.
that dude was scary good when he was on.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
At least with Edgar you can try and make an argument.
Belle would get my vote, but I wouldn’t be pissed if Edgar won over him.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
Something tells me Edgar was hurt by being a DH.
MVPs were probably still required to field in 1995.
"That baseball is the smartest thing out on that field." —Hawk Harrelson
Two spots above Randy Johnson.
Randy Johnson led the league that year in ERA, WHIP, strikeouts, K/BB ratio and only lost 2 games the whole year.
Mesa got 2 first-place votes for the Cy Young award.
by Ozzie Montana on Oct 20, 2011 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe the writers were really into drugs that year.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
Or maybe they were just BBWA members
and had their prerequisite lobotomies
Wow, that's one of the sickest stats I've heard in a while
expectations are premeditated resentments - cheshirecat
didn't giambi admit he didn't deserve the mvp that year?
as far as i’m concerned, big frank is a 3 time mvp.
by obnoxious american on Oct 20, 2011 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
while I would have loved for Frank to win it in 2000
he played at DH. Alex Rodriguez finished third that year, and if he didn’t take roids, probably should have won it. (he said 2001-2003 right?)
http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/awards_2000.shtml#ALmvp
but still fuck both of them. also, I almost forgot how freaking good Pedro Martinez was until I saw this.
- blasphemer hat off
NAOPOS
wtf?
the 12 fingered dude got a vote that year? darin erstad was worth more wins than frank thomas? why did I look this up?
NAOPOS
I really like this off season Daily Disappointment series
Every day I get to hear how our team is actually worse than our low opinion of them.
I keed, I like the work. But damn.
Dave Martinez woulda had that.
WS Titles within the last 6 years: 1.
How many other teams can say that? Huh?
HOW MANY?
"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!
5.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Oct 20, 2011 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
That is why you are successful in finance.
Good with numbers.
"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!
by winningugly on Oct 20, 2011 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
it's a calling.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Oct 20, 2011 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions
HSA has been deep undercover the last six months.
her upcoming 6 part exposé on the white sox, ports, nacho cheese, misogyny, scat, full tilt poker and jonathan franzen will cause your opinion of the organization to fall through the floor.
by larry on Oct 20, 2011 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Probably heading up the "Occupy Seattle" movement
"Yeah, and you’ll be batting ninth." – PK’s response to AJ’s text inquiry regarding the player/manager rumor. "No, I’ll be demanding a trade." - AJ’s witty retort
ROY is the least important of those awards
but in the Sox case, it tells you where our focus has generally been.
I plan on giving the RotY a bit more attention at a later date.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
Apparently I've developed a new pen name.
Thanks for bringing this to my attention JJ.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
by U-God on Oct 20, 2011 11:38 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
So can we chalk up last year's MVP for the Sox too?
If so then our drought is ov-AH!
3 things in life I care about
Sox, Colts, and Hawks.
Lifetime banners: '05, '07, '10
All Eye-talians
write alike.
"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!
by winningugly on Oct 20, 2011 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Hawk?
http://s569.photobucket.com/albums/ss139/thatshortkid/?action=view¤t=bacon_gets_bucked.mp4
"MY NAME IS YOANIS CESPEDEZ YOU KILLED MY FATHER" WHAT!
That was back when what's-his-name gave a damn about Bacon's groin
White Sox 2012: Helplessly hoping.
Wait a minute...
Didn’t Adam Dunn get “The Suckiest Batting Average Ever” award this year?
"Yeah, and you’ll be batting ninth." – PK’s response to AJ’s text inquiry regarding the player/manager rumor. "No, I’ll be demanding a trade." - AJ’s witty retort
Dang it! Well, maybe next year.
"Yeah, and you’ll be batting ninth." – PK’s response to AJ’s text inquiry regarding the player/manager rumor. "No, I’ll be demanding a trade." - AJ’s witty retort
please no
"Statistics are about as interesting as first base coaches" Jim Bouton
by Grinder Rule #42 on Oct 20, 2011 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember being so pissed when they gave Frank the MVP for that 94 season
Shoulda been World Series MVP!
HIRE GREG WALKER!
I love when larry takes Rongey to task on twitter.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Oct 20, 2011 3:50 PM CDT reply actions
It is enjoyable
Rongey staked out a bad position and didn’t have the flexibility to do anything more than backpedal. It’s like he’s forgotten (if he ever knew) that not everyone is as dumb as his callers.
Never given it a thought, but is he of the bloggers are stupid school?
Well, he reads and acknowledges us
Which puts him one step ahead of nearly everybody in the mainstream, in terms of respect.
I don’t think he thinks we’re stupid, but he docks us points for lack of access. I also think it’s in his interest to soften sentiment against the White Sox, and we do have a significant platform for broadcasting it, so he tries to address it head on.
The difference comes down to us saying, “Improvements here and there help,” and him saying, “Addressing one or two things won’t solve everything.” It’s arguing against something we’re not arguing, so it’s only going to end in frustration.
Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.
by Jim Margalus on Oct 20, 2011 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Questions:
1. Is that public knowledge? That he reads SSS? I did not know that. If true, he has fewer (sic) excuse for some of his opinions.
2. What does “lack of access” mean? Like non-reporters lack of access or too hard to participate on SSS?
3. I agree that it’s his job to soften criticism, but to do it ala his reply to larry kind of costs him credibility. Agree or not?
Non-question:
Last graph implies him building a straw man. Do you think he understands that but does it because of #3, or does he do that cuz he’s in over his head?
(sorry, that WAS a question.)
Inquiring minds want to know.
WU got his ass handed to him by the Shit Rooster, of all people! Priceless.
Chiburb is an assclown. A real life loser and internet bore.
Mick11's SBN profile.
since jim is getting lit...
1) he at least reads us on twitter.
2) he means he has sources in the organization. which is true. and, as i have conceded to him before, he does know things i don’t. however, in this conversation, it was a non sequitur. he seems to be implying that there is some massive, inherent and apparently secret impediment to a team choosing to allocate more resources to the draft. there isn’t.
i know more about the draft than he does. i know more about international scouting than he does (particularly if his “sources” are the white sox). i know more about the white sox minor leagues than he does, though i would certainly concede that he may know some different (and relevant) things that i don’t. i know these things because i spend a shitload of time reading about them and also because i have “sources” of my own. i know amateur scouts, i know professional scouts, i know international scouts. i know people who work, or have worked, inside the front offices of major league franchises. essentially, i have a pretty good idea of how the things work in what i purport to be my area expertise.
3) agree generally. i’m sure there are some who think it bolsters his credibility.
non-question) i haven’t the faintest clue at this point why he repeatedly suggests that, when one has multiple problems, one should do nothing if one can’t solve all the problems.
by larry on Oct 20, 2011 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
He has read us, would probably be safer to say.
He could read us regularly, but all I know for sure is that he’s read a sampling.
But yeah, given that he engages us on Twitter, he knows where we stand, what our philosophies are, and actually responds directly, rather than some passive-aggressive Daily Herald tactics.
Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.
by Jim Margalus on Oct 21, 2011 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions
it just seems like a lot of
I know and you can’t repeats to me. At least he doesn’t make random shit up like the Herald.
NAOPOS
by blackoutsox on Oct 21, 2011 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Or say internet guy
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
Yeah, he's a radio guy w/contacts w/people at all levels of the org
Therefore his statements are valid, and larry’s are not.
it just makes me weak in the knees the way gomez neither fixed or removed his crooked ass helmet after that puntoslide. -Trooper on Oct 5, 2011
by South Side Expat on Oct 20, 2011 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Rongey frequently makes this kind of argument
“That just fixes x but not y and z.” Boat has multiple holes no use in filling 1 or 2. Flawed reasoning then flawed now.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
He basically admitted to me that he gets access in return for silence
Which just leads to being the white sox goebbels. Why would he ever question them, too afraid to lose his precious access.
Off-Season Proposition Bet Tally - 1 won - 6 lost
Not to mention his paycheck or future employment.
Didn’t his predecessor go on to play by play with the Rays or Marlins?
Can’t say I blame him for toeing the company line. But I can blame him for pretending to have a foot in both camps.
WU got his ass handed to him by the Shit Rooster, of all people! Priceless.
Chiburb is an assclown. A real life loser and internet bore.
Mick11's SBN profile.
Rays.
The way I see it — I know where he’s coming from, so I know what I’m going to get. And I like having the opportunity to throw my thoughts against the company line and seeing if they hold up. In cases like this, the argument made in response to mine/ours doesn’t really address it, so I feel validated.
Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.
by Jim Margalus on Oct 21, 2011 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions
A thing of beauty, really.
it just makes me weak in the knees the way gomez neither fixed or removed his crooked ass helmet after that puntoslide. -Trooper on Oct 5, 2011
by South Side Expat on Oct 20, 2011 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
What did Rongey say to elicit that reaction?
And for those that didn’t know, larry is actually Dan Bernstein.
WU got his ass handed to him by the Shit Rooster, of all people! Priceless.
Chiburb is an assclown. A real life loser and internet bore.
Mick11's SBN profile.
by Chiburb on Oct 20, 2011 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
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ChrisRongey Chris Rongey
@SouthSidelarry @JimMargalus Clearly you don’t understand the complexity of acquiring amateur talent. Don’t know why u think it’s so simple
NAOPOS
basically a big tither over improving the minors and how by spending 5 million more
(cost of Teahan or middle reliever) one could dramatically improve the minors, but of course Rogney thinks there is more than that needed and larry is just blog people.
NAOPOS
Who's giving money to the church?
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
Evidently the Sox are special
They can’t afford to “miss on over slot picks” and can’t risk having a pick not sign.
In Rongey’s world somehow the Sox operate with special mystery constraints where the pitfalls are much worse than they are for everyone else.
rongey always came across on the radio as not knowing much more than the average fan, really.
shame he’s trying to big league anyone, let alone larry.
by obnoxious american on Oct 20, 2011 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
thats false. i've met them both and larry is quite a bit more personable than bernstein is.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
No he isn't. He was afraid of you.
WU got his ass handed to him by the Shit Rooster, of all people! Priceless.
Chiburb is an assclown. A real life loser and internet bore.
Mick11's SBN profile.
That's the one!!!!
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Oct 21, 2011 7:26 AM CDT up reply actions
Friend of the site JJ is now CSN's Sox blogger.
Congrats!
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
Not the case.
This move was happening regardless of Brett’s situation.
Beerleaguer -- White Sox: Something about a greased tee, a behind, and a pair of pliers
by UribeAuction on Oct 20, 2011 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Shouldn't that have been more about Ozzie than Che?
Also, did JJ post here? Under what name?
Thx.
WU got his ass handed to him by the Shit Rooster, of all people! Priceless.
Chiburb is an assclown. A real life loser and internet bore.
Mick11's SBN profile.
UribeAuction.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
You too.
WU got his ass handed to him by the Shit Rooster, of all people! Priceless.
Chiburb is an assclown. A real life loser and internet bore.
Mick11's SBN profile.
He's a good man, minus that whole Mizzou thing.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
I thought we were friends!
Beerleaguer -- White Sox: Something about a greased tee, a behind, and a pair of pliers
by UribeAuction on Oct 20, 2011 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
First Hamm's on me over Thanksgiving.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
You've made a huge mistake.
The policeman who jumps from a bridge to a plane is Detective John McClane, a.k.a. Bruce Willis. He’s just the star of the whole movie series and stuff, no big deal or anything. -Cruiser
Well that's hardly an expensive gesture.
Beerleaguer -- White Sox: Something about a greased tee, a behind, and a pair of pliers
by UribeAuction on Oct 20, 2011 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Also, let's have a real good time.
Beerleaguer -- White Sox: Something about a greased tee, a behind, and a pair of pliers
by UribeAuction on Oct 20, 2011 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Cannot wait for overpass parties.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
by U-God on Oct 20, 2011 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Have any of you guys had lefthanded milk stout?
Drinking now, like it
Off-Season Proposition Bet Tally - 1 won - 6 lost
Tis tasty.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
Hamm's are measured in cases, you ingrate.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
My comment still stands.
Beerleaguer -- White Sox: Something about a greased tee, a behind, and a pair of pliers
by UribeAuction on Oct 20, 2011 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm gonna piss on your couch.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
Not the couch! How about the toilet?
Beerleaguer -- White Sox: Something about a greased tee, a behind, and a pair of pliers
by UribeAuction on Oct 20, 2011 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
It's all toilet.
Beautiful, verdant, plush toilet.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
Verdant?
Wait, there’s greenery in kansas? I thought it was just one giant wheat field with Topeka somewhere in there.
Beerleaguer -- White Sox: Something about a greased tee, a behind, and a pair of pliers
by UribeAuction on Oct 20, 2011 9:24 PM CDT up reply actions
We have many a tree.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
!
!
Beerleaguer -- White Sox: Something about a greased tee, a behind, and a pair of pliers
by UribeAuction on Oct 20, 2011 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions
There is a place in Chicago called the Mutiny with the largest urinal i have ever seen
Off-Season Proposition Bet Tally - 1 won - 6 lost
A walk-in urinal?
Beerleaguer -- White Sox: Something about a greased tee, a behind, and a pair of pliers
by UribeAuction on Oct 20, 2011 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Ha!
That place is awesome.
The policeman who jumps from a bridge to a plane is Detective John McClane, a.k.a. Bruce Willis. He’s just the star of the whole movie series and stuff, no big deal or anything. -Cruiser
ahhh...the mutiny, best fake ass punk rock bar in all the midwest
i wonder if im still banned from there? last time i had the pleasure of that place i was doing some serious day time drinking. i cant remember exactly what sparked it (other than being loaded around 1 or 2 in the afternoon on a tuesday) but next thing i know im being dragged out by three other patrons for lining a neat off the bartenders forehead.
i ended up sitting across the street at quenchers continuing my binge while whatching the cops and ambulance roll up…ah the good ol days…
"Statistics are about as interesting as first base coaches" Jim Bouton
by Grinder Rule #42 on Oct 21, 2011 8:16 AM CDT up reply actions
I was cut off at the Mutiny for absolutely no reason
I had probably three beers, the bartender was a fucking ugly whore. I smiled at her and held my empty glass above my head and dropped it. This was after my wife was trampled by a bunch of poser punks.
Made in Milwaukee now.
And they also used to sell it at old Comiskey, but you probably didn’t scroll that far down on the Wikipedia page.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
well yeah
i was born pretty much right around the time the new park was built. I kinda wish I was around to see it.
NAOPOS
I was born in 1988.
I have no memories of the old park either. But I read the entire article when I want to talk about something. That’s the point you missed.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
note to self
never get between U-God and his Hamm’s
NAOPOS
by blackoutsox on Oct 22, 2011 12:38 AM CDT up reply actions
hey u-g, good call with the tribe
i just watched michael rappaport’s ’ beats and rhymes’ documentary on the band’s history and break up.
highly recommend.
It would definitely be nice to see great players get awards such as the ones mentioned; Mark Buehrle, and Alexei Ramirez. Along with many others these two deserve them, but, there are only so many given at any certain time.
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