Delayed promotions protect White Sox from Super Two
Earlier in the year, Scot Gregor of the Daily Herald called us "conspiracy theorists" for having the totally wackadoo idea that the White Sox might delay Dayan Viciedo's service time until immediate service time concerns elapsed around Independence Day.
The White Sox blew right past that date, as you might have heard. It took until Carlos Quentin's shoulder sprain in the last week of August for the sputtering Sox offense to find room in the lineup for the Cuban Tank.
But don't ditch those tinfoil hats yet! July didn't come and go without a much-anticipated promotion that seemed to take service time into account -- it just happened to involve somebody besides Viciedo.
MLB Trade Rumors posted the list of the players who earned Super Two status this year. The 2011 Super Twos needed 2.146 years of service time to qualify, and no White Sox made that list. But thankfully, Ben Nicholson-Smith of MLBTR followed up with a list of near-misses, which involves the White Sox to a rather significant degree.
The top 10 players closest to the cutoff date:
Gerardo Parra, Diamondbacks, 2.145
Angel Sanchez, Astros, 2.144
Darnell McDonald, Red Sox, 2.143
Ramon Troncoso, Dodgers, 2.143
Scott Mathieson, Philllies, 2.142
Alfredo Simon, Orioles, 2.142
Brian Burres, Pirates, 2.141
Alejandro De Aza, White Sox, 2.139
Chris Dickerson, Yankees, 2.138
Tony Sipp, Indians, 2.138
Yes indeed, Alejandro De Aza was called up one week after his Super Two eligibility had elapsed, and there are reasons to believe it wasn't pure coincidence.
(And make sure to see Larry's counterpoint below, as he thinks avoiding Super Two wasn't a priority in De Aza's case.)
The cutoff line of 2.146 years wasn't randomly selected this week -- sports agency CAA had projected that exact number on April 8. If CAA knew about it, the White Sox probably had to know about it, and if the White Sox knew about it, they would probably incorporate it into some of their plans.
De Aza could have -- and should have -- been called up weeks before the Sox finally made the move on July 27. A brief timeline...
- Through May: De Aza hits .288/333/.441 in Charlotte (OBP is unofficial, but close), while Alex Rios hits .201/.253/.306 and Juan Pierre hits .265/.327/.305.
- June: De Aza begins a tear that basically lasts the rest of the season. He hits .354/.403/.558 during the month at Charlotte. Rios is still spinning his wheels (.219/.271/.323) and Pierre is going backwards (.262/.320/.306).
- July 6: I write my first post stumping for De Aza to be considered, as his defensive capabilities and handedness make make him a seamless fit, whereas Viciedo would need to be accommodated (and he should've been!).
- July 20: De Aza passes his personal cutoff line.
- July 22: I write my second post wondering why De Aza hasn't been considered, noting that no mainstream media outlet had even mentioned his name in/on their properties since March.
- July 23: Two Chicago papers publish articles mentioning De Aza.
- July 27: De Aza is called up to fill an open roster spot after Edwin Jackson and Mark Teahen are traded to Toronto.
Holding off on a promotion made little baseball sense. However, waiting until De Aza's Super Two eligibility elapsed made a lot of sense for these Sox, at least for their m.o. of always taking the path of least resistance. When De Aza cleard his cutoff date, Williams and his crew prepared their trade deadline maneuvers. Seven days later, De Aza was allowed to take a spot on the 25-man roster, because hey, somebody had to.

The White Sox did the same thing with Viciedo to far greater effect. Despite plenty of evidence suggesting he could have helped a helluva lot sooner, they dragged their feet until they couldn't avoid it (Quentin's injury). For good measure, they dragged their feet a little more, acting as if Quentin could avoid a DL stint even though as Larry pointed out, AC joint sprains usually take several weeks to heal. Also, it's Carlos Quentin we're talking about.
Alas, Viciedo received his promotion on Aug. 27. Delaying his promotion until it was pointless meant that he finished the season with 123 days of service time, according to Baseball-Reference.com.
If things go as planned, Viciedo will have 2.123 years of service time to his name after the 2013 season. That puts him in pretty safe territory. He would only qualify for Super Two status in one of the last six seasons, and only by one day (the cutoff was 2.122 years in 2010).
Had Quentin's shoulder allowed the Sox to adhere to their initial plan, Viciedo would have been called up five days later, which would have put the Sox in the clear. Alas, the Sox couldn't hold down Viciedo any longer, so now the club is just a wee bit exposed.
The good news is that history is on the White Sox's side. As Cot's tells us, "the cutoff point generally falls between 2 years, 128 days of service and 2 years, 140 days," so it would take another significant outlier in order to give Viciedo an extra year of arbitration.

And so we arrive at the bottom line, which is what this is all about. The savings aren't immediately apparent, but they'll add up.
De Aza missing out on Super Two status saves the Sox somewhere around at most $1 million for 2012. He wouldn't make a killing in his first year of arbitration given his lack of sustained success.
However, if he turns out to be a capable everyday center fielder, it could easily amount to a few million when 2015 rolls around. With Viciedo, the savings potential is even greater due to his much higher pre-arb salary, and chance for far gaudier power numbers. Plus, he has Scott Boras as his agent, so you can pretty much throw out the possibility for an amicable early extension.
When we had the back-and-forth with Gregor back in June, he didn't think saving money was that big of a deal. He asked Larry:
Do you really believe after spending over $125 million on payroll this year, the White Sox would keep Viciedo down at Class AAA Charlotte this long so he won't be eligible for free agency until 2017 instead of 2016?
(When Larry answered "yes," Gregor said that answer "kills your entire argument.")
Well, that $125 million payroll is on the way down, if Williams' early utterances are any indication. The disappointing attendance figures seem to back him up, as did the salary dump at the deadline. Assuming the Sox are a few months into cost-cutting mode, insuring themselves against Super Two salary boosts could easily be a small part of a bigger belt-tightening plan.
And then there's the matter of talent. With Gordon Beckham degenerating at the plate and Jared Mitchell's prospect stock in a long-term free-fall, Viciedo is the only young, dynamic hitter the White Sox have. In order for the Sox to successfully transition out from under the Adam Dunn and Alex Rios debacles, they desperately need Viciedo to be as good as can be expected for as long as possible.
The Sox have put themselves into position to accomplish the latter. It was painful to endure, and it sent a horrible message to everybody who had to watch it, but maybe the club can spin it as a positive going forward. After all, the Sox have a new manager with no loyalties to underachieving veterans, and these agonizing austerity measures are in the rear-view mirror, too. Those are two super reasons to put the best product on the field from here on out.
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Wonderful piece.
The site continues to be more prescient, and seems to be building influence. Great work.
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by winningugly on Oct 29, 2011 6:41 AM CDT via mobile reply actions 3 recs
Another fine, insightful bit of writing.
Talk about black and white, I visited the Marlins site (“Fishstripes”) for the first time yesterday and what an eyeful! Seeing the quality and variety of the posting there made me realize even more what a treasure we now have in SSS. It was a good place for Sox news before you came, Jim, but you have made it great. I feel sorry for the Marlins fans, though I suppose they have, in part, themselves to blame for the paucity of good material on their SBNation site.
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by Carthago Delenda Est on Oct 29, 2011 7:45 AM CDT reply actions
why do we care about a middling journeyman.
/bernstein
by obnoxious american on Oct 29, 2011 8:28 AM CDT reply actions
was this a recent comment or old?
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
He really is the dumbest smartest dude I've heard.
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
i know.
for one of the only guys on the radio that seems to understand advanced stats, for him to say that just seemed trollish.
by obnoxious american on Oct 29, 2011 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Just stop it. Next you will telling me about UFOs
Im happy though. The team will save a boatload off next year’s MVP De Aza!
"Rooting for the Twins is just a roundabout way of rooting for a first-round playoff bye for the Yankees." by big_fun
He'll break his femur in spring training. Just for you.
WU got his ass handed to him by the Shit Rooster, of all people! Priceless.
Chiburb is an assclown. A real life loser and internet bore.
Mick11's SBN profile.
by Chiburb on Oct 29, 2011 10:21 AM CDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
i don't think de aza had anything to do with super two.
first of all, there is no way a guy who has 388 career plate appearances gets $1.5 million. the reason he would have been eligible, as we all know, is because he spent more than 1.5 seasons on the DL. if he would have gotten much more than $650K, i would be quite surprised. there’s almost a perfect comp to alex escobar in 2007 – frequently injured player, outfielder, similar production, similar plate appearances. escobar asked for $590K, nationals countered with $500K and he avoided a hearing by signing for $533K. while i will certainly accuse baseball teams of playing service time games, i’m not sure even the rays would do that for a couple hundred thousand dollars – particularly when he had pretty bad major league numbers prior to this season and there certainly wasn’t any guarantee he wouldn’t just continue to be much more than a replacement level-ish guy who gets injured after three weeks. while i had a bunch of confidence in him, i don’t think there were many people out there – including on the white sox – who did.
second, him getting another year of arbitration wouldn’t be all that helpful for his later salaries. if he plays well in 2012, he would get a similar, if not the same, amount in arbitration in 2013 as if he had been a super two. de aza is quite unique in that he just doesn’t have anywhere near the production 98% of arbitration eligible players have.
also,
if we’re peering into our crystal balls and looking for a comp for de aza in his 2013 arbitration case, andres torres is a good one. very sporadic playing time until 2010 and then played a full season and was arbitration eligible. asked for $2.6 million, giants countered with $1.8 million, he avoided a hearing by signging for $2.1 million.
Except you could use a proofreader 1.5% of the time.
;)
The sun on the balcony is almost unbearable, worse than the booing fans in Chicago shedding miserable light on his failures at work.
by winningugly on Oct 29, 2011 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I rewrote that paragraph so many times while wrestling with comps
I thought I’d settled on “at most,” because I was thinking he might be good for a head start of $800K or $850K (salary, not savings), because to further muddle De Aza’s comps, the PAs-here-and-there guys I found didn’t enter their arb years in full working order. So I wanted to be safe, but I ended up being too generous.
If he’s looking at Escobar money, then yeah, there’s no savings worth working toward. I thought it might’ve been worth a couple hundred thousand dollars, especially if Williams was anticipating De Aza playing just about every day upon his promotion with average production. Throw in an extra 50 PA or so from the combination of an earlier call-up and more aggressive use of De Aza, and he leaves the Escobars even further behind in playing time.
I didn’t think it was the chief reason, but I thought it might’ve factored into the “why rush it?” mentality as the Sox prepared to draw down. And not that $200,000 is a whole lot, but that’s money that could be used on a draft pick (laugh track).
But Viciedo’s is where the real savings is at. I probably underplayed that aspect.
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by Jim Margalus on Oct 29, 2011 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree with your assessment on Viciedo.
He’s the key.
The sun on the balcony is almost unbearable, worse than the booing fans in Chicago shedding miserable light on his failures at work.
Buzz. Kill.,
Your stuff continues to impress, larry.
The sun on the balcony is almost unbearable, worse than the booing fans in Chicago shedding miserable light on his failures at work.
by winningugly on Oct 29, 2011 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
as i posted when it happened...
they should have just let viciedo sit in the minors until september. why, after waiting so long to call him up, was he brought up when there is a small chance that maybe he will be a super two. you waited so long you should have gone ahead and waited the extra 5 days.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
They tried.
They were already playing shorthanded for several days with hopes that Quentin could stick it out. But waiting an extra five days would’ve been terrible for PR. And maybe HR.
When you spend an entire season saying the only reason Viciedo isn’t in the big leagues is because there isn’t playing time for him, and then the guy playing his position gets injured, it would be awfully difficult to justify calling up a different position player.
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by Jim Margalus on Oct 29, 2011 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions
By the way
2.123 is what Gordon Beckham’s current service time is. He was well under the Super Two cutoff this year.
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My baseball IQ is going up exponentially by reading this site.
Thanks Jim, Larry, and everyone else.
by ParisSox on Oct 30, 2011 6:32 AM CDT via mobile reply actions
and yet my regular IQ continues to decrease.
…
j/k.
by Shoeless In SC on Oct 30, 2011 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Get rid of the GF.
Women weaken the mind.
The sun on the balcony is almost unbearable, worse than the booing fans in Chicago shedding miserable light on his failures at work.
Yup.
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by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Oct 31, 2011 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
I was referring to this place dumbing me down in non-baseball ways
particularly its ability to draw me away from my text books. At least WTGTD can’t lobotomize my brain anymore.
by Shoeless In SC on Oct 31, 2011 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions
I know.
The fact that I had to say this makes my point.
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by winningugly on Oct 31, 2011 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions

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