Getting to know Jeff Manto, Mark Parent and Joe McEwing
The White Sox finalized Robin Ventura's new coaching staff, and it contains no surprises -- except for the overarching mild surprise that none of Ventura's coaches have little major-league coaching experience. The new guys include:
- Hitting coach Jeff Manto
- Bench coach Mark Parent
- Third base coach Joe McEwing
There's only so much any of them can say at this point, considering they haven't been able to do anything or talk to anybody yet, so I looked for some information beyond the standard-issue introductions.
Hitting coach Jeff Manto
Manto spent the last four seasons with the White Sox as their minor-league hitting coordinator, and he talked to us in July of 2010. He struck me as a positive, energetic guy, and he used the word "adjustments" a lot.
Manto is making the same jump he made in the Pittsburgh Pirates organization. He was its roving hitting instructor from 2002 to 2005, and then served as the Pirates' hitting coach from 2006 to 2007. Freddy Sanchez won a batting title under his watch, which is something. Manto wasn't fired individually, but he was effectively pushed out when Neal Huntington took over as GM and fired Jim Tracy.
I looked through Bucs Dugout to see what they said about Manto over the years, and I found this gem:
For starters, Manto is no fan of on-base percentage, partly because he believes its emphasis on walks does not take into account that a base-on-balls is not always a desired or productive result.
While dismissing runs created, Manto offered his own statistical category: "runs produced" -- measured by adding runs and RBI, subtracting home runs from that total and dividing that number by games played.
Along those same lines, I found a Manto quote relayed by the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette's Dejan Kovacevic (one of my favorite beat writers, now a columnist) from the spring before Manto's first season:
A lack of patience long has been a bugaboo for Pirates hitters, but Manto has no plan to isolate on drawing more walks.
"Do we want Jason Bay walking if a pitch is an inch outside and there's a man on third? I'm not so sure. There's a time to walk and a time to understand what's going on."
- Feb. 16, 2006
In Manto's defense, this seems to be what a lot of hitting coaches think (and preach), probably because they don't want their hitters to disengage from attack mode. Also, the Pirates aren't exactly a talent machine. But based on a couple other things I've seen -- including one of Manto's defenses on Bucs Dugout -- I'm guessing you won't see Manto calling out any hitters, so prepare to be exasperated if there's another slow start.
Most of what Manto said to Gonzales is boilerplate stuff, which is to be expected. To me, the most interesting aspect was that he emphasized his experience working with sports psychologists. Obviously, this is all about fixing Adam Dunn.
Bench coach Mark Parent
Parent embodied the journeyman backup catcher in the late 1980s and early 1990s, playing for the Padres, Orioles, Phillies, Cubs, Pirates, Rangers and Tigers over his 13-year big-league career.
He managed two different Philadelphia farm teams, guiding Single-A Lakewood to the South Atlantic League championship in 2010, and Double-A Reading to a 74-68 record and a playoff berth this past season.
He's a big guy, standing 6-foot-5-inches tall. Daryl Van Schouwen said Parent will bring an "authoritative, 'old-school' presence," and play the bad cop to Ventura's good cop, per Buddy Bell's plan. A survey of one of Parent's players at Reading said he was a positive influence, and connected well with players.
Perhaps one player he can connect with is Tyler Flowers, since he knows what it's like to move a massive frame behind the plate.
Third-base coach Joe McEwing
To us, he's Joe McEwing, who has climbed his way up the coaching ranks in the White Sox system. He was the Charlotte Knights' hitting coach before managing at Winston-Salem, after which he was promoted back to Charlotte.
To fans of the Mets and Cardinals, he's the superutility guy known as "Super Joe," which was used to both praise and deride him, depending on what one thought of scrappygrindygrittyguys.
McEwing is a fan of that type of player:
‘‘We’re all basically the same player — grinders, not silver spoon-type players,’’ McEwing said. ‘‘We had to work for everything we got. We’ll bring that to the guys, that’s all we know. Grind it out and get the best out of what we’ve got that day.’’
But grinder jokes/nausea aside, there's nothing wrong with hard work, and McEwing earned respect of his teammates and coaches at every stop by doing his damndest to stick in the big leagues. In fact, one of his biggest fans just became available:
"It's one of the greatest games I've ever seen played," he said. "What did he not do? He made all types of plays at second. He made all types of plays at third. He got clutch two-out hits against good pitching.
"Why fight it? I'm in love. We're in love."
That's Tony La Russa talking, and Jerry Reinsdorf has extended an invitation for La Russa to rejoin the White Sox in some kind of special advisor role. McEwing's presence might be an incentive. I might be drawing a connection that's not there, but, hey, La Russa admired McEwing so much that he wanted a pair of Super Joe's spikes to remember him by when he left St. Louis for New York. It's like they always say -- if you like a guy enough to want his shoes, you might want to help him coach.
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I like the sound of this Manto fellow.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Nov 1, 2011 10:14 AM CDT reply actions
Manto also foretold the rise of Bautista
"If we can get him to replicate his swing three days in a row, Jose Bautista could hit 25 homers a year. In fact, I think he could hit 40. He is just so easily frustrated when it doesn’t go right that he blames himself and forgets what he’s learned. Or ignores it. But of all these guys I have, if you want one of them who will eventually do something special in this game, I’d pick him. I wouldn’t be very surprised."
The downside of course is that Manto wasn’t the coach who got Bautista to perform, so a fat lot of good being right about that does him.
Big whoop. I would be impressed if he foretold the rise of castro
Know your history; military strongmen becoming dictators is common.
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
by rhythm on Nov 1, 2011 8:43 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
Which Greek military strongman will become the dictator and set into motion a series of events that lead to the next world war?
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
almost every interview with mcewing and every news article with a quote from mcewing
includes him saying some derivation of “grind”.
Fuck. Me.
When does Erstad hop aboard the Sox Grindy Train?
The sun on the balcony is almost unbearable, worse than the booing fans in Chicago shedding miserable light on his failures at work.
Yep, we are screwed
Now we have Ozzie to the power of three
It’s taken years of practice to be such an asshole.
by Chiburb on Jun 1, 2010 10:35 AM PDT
by rhythm on Nov 1, 2011 8:45 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
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"Statistics are about as interesting as first base coaches" Jim Bouton
by Grinder Rule #42 on Nov 1, 2011 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
mcneil and whoever on the score all concluding that dunn is done due to lack of bat speed.
not convinced, but is there a way to track that? i’ve never seen any bat speed data anywhere.
by obnoxious american on Nov 1, 2011 11:11 AM CDT reply actions
speed off of bat is the closest you'll get.
here it is for his home runs. can’t find if greg is still doing it for other types of contact.
http://www.hittrackeronline.com/detail.php?id=2011_2713&type=hitter
an unfortunately small sample size
I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center.
hm, avg speed 103.5 mph.
i remember espn used to do live bat track speed around when the mcgwire/sosa crap was going on. this was right around what they were swinging, if i remember correctly.
by obnoxious american on Nov 1, 2011 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Dunn should worry less about bat speed
and more about contact.
"Yeah, and you’ll be batting ninth." – PK’s response to AJ’s text inquiry regarding the player/manager rumor. "No, I’ll be demanding a trade." - AJ’s witty retort
Um, I saw him miss more than a few by inches, not just fractions of an inch
or foul tips.
So he can whiff with a really quick bat, but I’d rather that he work on swinging at decent pitches with a slightly slower bat. I’d be OK with sacrificing a few dingers to get some RBI-producing doubles in the gap. It might even help him get up over .200 next season!
"Yeah, and you’ll be batting ninth." – PK’s response to AJ’s text inquiry regarding the player/manager rumor. "No, I’ll be demanding a trade." - AJ’s witty retort
it certainly would be amusing to watch a guy completely change his hitting approach at age 32.
i’m guessing that would look something like adam dunn’s 2011 season.
and i get what you're trying to say.
but a guy losing even minimal bat speed is going to miss by inches.
Hmmm...it could be a long 2012 season
"Yeah, and you’ll be batting ninth." – PK’s response to AJ’s text inquiry regarding the player/manager rumor. "No, I’ll be demanding a trade." - AJ’s witty retort
if that happens and they keep him in the lineup like guillen did
"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."
by BobbySouthSide on Nov 1, 2011 5:21 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
He had a heart attack typing that
and his head hit enter
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
what I meant was
It will be a long season if his bat speed is the reason for his decline and robin keeps him in the lineup through the suckitude like ozzie did.
"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."
by BobbySouthSide on Nov 1, 2011 7:14 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
just to add another point that i mentioned a few times during the season.
dunn faced more fastballs (and, at least velocity-wise, better fastballs) than he ever has, according to fangraphs. now, the white sox as a team have in recent years been a team that sees more fastballs than nearly all teams. and guys like quentin and konerko, hitters you don’t really want to throw fastballs to, also saw bumps in fastballs compared to last year and throughout their careers. it’s something that i may look into more deeply this offseason, so i don’t have any groundbreaking conclusions to draw from this.
maybe dunn was having more trouble getting around on pitches and teams noticed. maybe dunn was just sucking and teams were treating him like a sucky player and throwing him more fastballs because they just weren’t afraid of him (this is why a guy like juan pierre sees something like 75% fastballs). maybe it was just the result of him being on the white sox and the bump had nothing to do with him in particular but how teams were approaching, and have approached, the white sox as a team. maybe it’s just that the white sox, for whatever reason, saw more pitchers who throw more fastballs. and so on.
the WS in general don't see a lot of pitches, right?
So it’s kind of curious that pitchers would more often than not give them balls to hit (fastballs). Or am I missing something?
by Shoeless In SC on Nov 1, 2011 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
In an article I read yesterday
It was mentioned by Manto that might be Dunn’s problem. So he talked about teaching him to look for the breaking and curve ball instead of the fastball. The article talked about how Manto planned on talking to those guys before the season and starting working with them immediately at the start of Spring Training. Seemed like he was sending out a signal to those guys that they should be open for instruction.
So, as long as he gets only curve balls, he shouldn't be historically bad again.
Hizzah!
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Nov 1, 2011 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions
well if he teaches to look for breaking balls
guess how the opposition will pitch to him?
It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
*reply fail & English butchering
if Manto teaches Dunn to look for breaking balls.
It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, 1/2 pack of cigarettes...it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses.
If Dunn were a catcher or shortstop, this might be a beneficial strategy.
But DHs who cannot hit a fastball don’t hold the job for long.
by 3E8 on Nov 1, 2011 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Tony La Russa loves a guy under 6-feet tall that didn't have a set position?
GET THE FUCK OUT OF HERE!
quite frankly i don't know if i'm a fan of this mcewing guy.
i’m jealous of him.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
bringing in larussa to be a special advisor...
wouldn’t that have ventura looking over his shoulder? i think it would.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
If La Russa isn't going to manage the Sox, wouldn't the next-best option be to have him advise the man who will manage them?
I’m totally on board the KenWo-La Russa Love Train, by the way.
"I considered throwing a volley, but since I'm considerably closer to Ford City than Dodge City, I figure it might have been misinterpreted."
La Russa helps with scouting / drafting.
Robin runs the team day to day.
It may not be ideal, but It would allow Ventura to run the team in his own way. La Russa can provide input to Jerry / Kenny / Hahn.
I think Hahn and La Russa would counterbalance each other in a good way.
I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center.
Guys retire so they can stop doing so much
Being involved in scouting/drafting strikes me as time consuming work, lots of talking with scouts and travel.
But being a guy with an office in the building for Robin to bounce ideas off of- that’s a retirement gig I can see an old manager appreciating. Especially if Kenny or Hahn periodically check his opinion of NL players. It’s low effort, gives him a modest check every other week, keeps him involved if he still wants to be and allows Jerry get a sandwich with him now and then. And a big part of me thinks that sandwich part is what Reinsdorf probably wants most of all.
thats how you get a 32k sqft house
"Statistics are about as interesting as first base coaches" Jim Bouton
by Grinder Rule #42 on Nov 1, 2011 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions
I could see how he would like Chavez v. Az School Risk Retention Trust
Students waiting in line to board a school bus while the bus is stopped to pick them up are covered by the bus’s UIM policy when a vehicle collided with the bus and then the students.
I mean, come on!
What?! I ain't no Professor Pickles!
by 67WMAQ on Nov 1, 2011 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I was just speculating that La Russa would watch tape, provide analysis.
It seems Jerry would like him back in the organization
There’s no need for him to be in Chicago with the technology that is available today.
I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center.
I'm on your wavelength now
Same idea- TLR as guy people in the organization can talk to about things in their particular area if they want another opinion. He definitely doesn’t need to live in Chicago- IIRC Bill James lives in Kansas and works for the Red Sox. He makes trips to Boston every so often, and presumably is available to them as needed. All LaRussa needs is a phone and a willingness to spend a week in Chicago occasionally.
If LaRussa retired because of medical concerns, as has been hinted at
by some in the media, then he probably doesn’t want another baseball job.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Nov 1, 2011 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions
Baseball job is not equal to manager
Traveling with the the team over the course of the season is different than being a consultant.
Not trying to stump for TLR, I just like to discuss possibilities.
I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center. -KV
No, I understand that. But it might not be a matter of what
TLR can physically do.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Nov 1, 2011 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
I was thinking more about the mental strain.
I’m sure he’ll do whatever makes him happy.
I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center. -KV
as i pointed out a few times, he's 67.
maybe JR and larussa would go jack mckeon but i wouldn’t be that concerned with any of the numerous old men JR pays to do not much.
The Cuban Comet takes offense to this
He feels his conversations with stadium staff during his free lunches at the ballpark are quite productive.
"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."
by BobbySouthSide on Nov 1, 2011 5:26 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions 1 recs
I wouldn't mind this at all
He can tutor Ventura and help with player development. Telling JR that he was planning on retiring this year earlier than most others might be a good sign.
Figure this might be interesting to some:
My dad took a deposition from one of the Doctors at Rush that works with the White Sox. He knows this guy a little, so he decided to ask him about what he thought about the moves. The Doctor said that Jerry was extremely pissed off at mid-season and was ready to fire both Ozzie and Kenny. He said that Ozzie’s talking about the contract extension took some of the focus off of Kenny and that Kenny convinced Jerry for another chance. Doctor said he could see Kenny being gone at midseason. It seemed like the Sox are expecting to try to compete at least for this year.
So was Kenny lying when he said he offered to resign?
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Nov 1, 2011 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions
math tells you things you already know.
aj is not a good defender.
yeah, you have to scroll all the way down.
Each spring I try to spend one morning on the back fields.Last March I got to talking to a scout while watching our minor leagers.He pointed out Manto to me and raved about him.
How prepared capable and focused he was.He told me that he was represenative of the professional methods and additude the Buddy Bell was bringing to the minor league system.At the time I had no idea who Manto was.I think we are going to like this guy.
We learned he was likeable last summer.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
Kenny’s Guys
The newspapers slant is that these are all Kenny’s choices.You will recall that when Robin was brought back this spring it was as Buddy Bell’s right hand man.Buddy seems to like to stay behind the scenes but look at this….Ventura,Mantos,McEwing and Parent are all acually Buddy Bell hires.
Pay no attention to the man behind the curtian.
i see what you are saying here.
bell stated forcefully that he didn’t want to manage a major league baseball team ever again, but nobody ever asked him about managing the managers of a major league baseball team.
I don't know how well the Bell angle holds up
Ventura’s a company man above anything. If he’s an anyone guy, he’s a Reinsdorf guy. Kenny, Hahn, Robin, Coop, Coops guys in the bullpen, Baines- all company men. Bell’s an influential guy in the organization, but I have a hard time seeing him as the power behind the throne.
MLBTR Projects Arbitration Salaries
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/11/projected-arbitration-salaries.html#more
•John Danks – $7.6MM
•Carlos Quentin – $6.6MM
</strong>yEveryone is Reinsdorf,s guy!
When Bell was asked to take over the minor league system,first he just watched how things were being done.He immediately saw the disaster that our system was.Jerry gave him full control and all new people and processes were put in place.Mark Salas who has clout was moved to the majors.otherwise all gone.Coop has his own juice with out doubt.
Jerry is in charge,and Bell seeks no credit but he has more power than people imagine.
by Lil Jimmy on Nov 1, 2011 6:36 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
The formatting makes it art.
it just makes me weak in the knees the way gomez neither fixed or removed his crooked ass helmet after that puntoslide. -Trooper on Oct 5, 2011
by South Side Expat on Nov 1, 2011 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
to be fair, bell was struck down, so.......
I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.
by Lil Jimmy on Nov 1 2011 6:36 PM CDT via marconi
"On-base percentage is one of the most dangerous concepts of the last seven, eight years." -TLR
by Uribe Down on Nov 1, 2011 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Science!
it just makes me weak in the knees the way gomez neither fixed or removed his crooked ass helmet after that puntoslide. -Trooper on Oct 5, 2011
by South Side Expat on Nov 1, 2011 7:20 PM CDT up reply actions
She blinded me with...?
Thomas Dolby!
The sun on the balcony is almost unbearable, worse than the booing fans in Chicago shedding miserable light on his failures at work.
by winningugly on Nov 1, 2011 9:51 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions
this is remarkable.
It’s like an enigma wrapped in a mystery wrapped in a conundrum.
by Shoeless In SC on Nov 1, 2011 7:36 PM CDT up reply actions
It was Bell, in the clubhouse, with the candlestick
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
Quick questions:
1. Would it be difficult to ascertain Parent’s managerial style? An email to the reporters who covered his minor league teams? Maybe a guest post by one of them with memories of sac bunts and stolen base attempts? I ask because I suspect the BC might be important this year. I couldn’t care less about the hitting coach. He’s as important as the $3.75M reliever.
2. Where the hell is the book club?!? I finished the damn thing already.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
Quick answers.
1. Yes, at least in any meaningful way. I would hesitate to draw connections to tendencies from managing minor-league teams, especially low-level affiliates, because the primary job isn’t winning games – it’s advancing players. To a certain degree, they’re carrying out orders from what the minor league directors want to see. And teams run a ton more below Triple-A, because the players need to practice and the catchers aren’t that good.
2. I believe there’s a separate thread for that.
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Ok. Seemed worth a shot, but I understand.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
Which is why it would be nice to have some experience somewhere, somehow.
Alas.
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wasn't Baines bench coach in 2005?
"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."
by BobbySouthSide on Nov 1, 2011 7:18 PM CDT via iPhone app up reply actions
a happier time.
http://www.vesphoto.com/index.php#mi=2&pt=1&pi=10000&s=6&p=3&a=0&at=0
copy and paste the whole thing, i don’t understand how the whole link thing works.
by obnoxious american on Nov 1, 2011 7:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Damnit, I'm gonna put something up tonight.
it just makes me weak in the knees the way gomez neither fixed or removed his crooked ass helmet after that puntoslide. -Trooper on Oct 5, 2011
by South Side Expat on Nov 1, 2011 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Sure you are.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
More like South Side Colin.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
by U-God on Nov 1, 2011 7:31 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
This.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
Allright jerks, it's up.
it just makes me weak in the knees the way gomez neither fixed or removed his crooked ass helmet after that puntoslide. -Trooper on Oct 5, 2011
by South Side Expat on Nov 1, 2011 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Are we talking whole book or just first few chapters?
I want to look smrt.
by Ozzie Montana on Nov 1, 2011 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm starting a fortune cookie-making business and every "fortune" will say...
“If you like a guy enough to want his shoes, you might want to help him coach.”
White Sox 2012: Helplessly hoping.
...in bed.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Nov 1, 2011 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
This is usually 815Sox's territory
but I heard B & B mocking that Manto quote above where he invented his own stat. I caught the discussion halfway through so I’m not sure if they gave credit to the site for digging up that quote but this is the only place I’ve seen it.
FifthFeather.com
by El Duque's Raft on Nov 1, 2011 7:30 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Just found it.
Yes, he did credit South Side Sox. Pretty much read those few paragraphs out loud. Thanks for the heads-up.
(He also mispronounced my name, but I’ll take it.)
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i hope it's like marvelous.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
Bingo.
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The Gold Glove Awards show is delayed by a Toledo/NIU game.
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I never knew Matheny was so big
He is 6’3 and towers over Ravich.
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
Post is up
http://www.southsidesox.com/2011/11/1/2531583/mark-buehrle-wins-third-consecutive-gold-glove
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