A quick note about a soft-tossing lefty
Back in September, I wrote a two-part series about the White Sox pitching staff's reluctance, refusal and/or inability to retaliate when their batters took beatings from opposing pitchers. The Cleveland bullpen's reckless inside pitching inspired the post, and I also found that the Minnesota Twins seemed to take a page from the same playbook.
While working on White Sox Outsider 2012, it turns out I overlooked the pitcher who took advantage of this deficiency more than anybody else:
I'd noticed it while writing about the Sox's 11-inning, 2-1 loss to Kansas City on July 20. You might remember that game as the one that caused Ozzie Guillen to explode in one of his last expletive-laden rants:
"Nothing more painful than losing the f—-ing game against Bruce Chen once again,’’ Guillen said. "That’s more painful than this one. F—-ing pathetic. No f—-ing energy. We just go through the motions. We take the day off instead of [today, a day off].’’ [...]
"Nothing against Bruce Chen, I have a lot of respect for this kid,’’ Guillen said. "But our approach at the plate, that’s not a good club out there. F--- it. I’m tired of protecting people.’’
It's funny that he mentioned "protecting people." Chen held the Sox to one run on four hits over eight innings, needing only 83 pitches ... but he also hit three batters. Carlos Quentin was one of them, sure, but Alexei Ramirez and Brent Morel also got drilled.
Then I realized, "Hey, didn't Chen knock a White Sox out of a game?" He did, but it wasn't on July 20. That took place three weeks later, when Chen broke A.J. Pierzynski's wrist with a fastball during a 5-1 Royals victory on Aug. 12. Pierzynski was one of two batters Chen hit that night (Quentin was the other one, of course) over his six scoreless innings.
At that point in the season, Chen had made three starts against the White Sox, going 2-0 with a 0.90 ERA and a 0.80 WHIP. But WHIP doesn't account for the ol' plunking, and when singling out that stat, a familiar theme repeats:
- Chen vs. White Sox: 20 IP, 5 HBP.
- Chen vs. everybody else: 73 1/3 IP, 0 HBP.
- White Sox pitchers in starts vs. Chen: 0 HBP
I looked at game accounts and notes after Chen's starts, and for all the self-deprecation, kicking and screaming about their struggles against him, the White Sox never noticed how Chen had his way with them. Guillen liked talking about how bad Chen was supposed to be. I guess that's why they were willing to spot him the entire inside part of the plate.
Hell, in the same game that Chen knocked the Sox's starting catcher out of the game, he also quick-pitched the Sox -- not once, but twice. The umpire called time during Chen's second attempt, which means that home plate umpire Mike Everitt made more of an effort to protect the Sox from getting pushed around than anybody wearing a White Sox uniform.

Random question: While looking at Chen's splits, this stopped me:
| I | Split | W | L | GS | IP | H | HR | BB | IBB | SO | HBP | ||
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| WP lt .500 | 8 | 6 | 2.69 | 18 | 117.0 | 108 | 6 | 37 | 2 | 65 | 6 | 1.239 | |
| WP of .500+ | 4 | 2 | 7.11 | 7 | 38.0 | 44 | 12 | 13 | 0 | 32 | 1 | 1.500 |
How does a guy on a sub-.500 team make 18 of 25 starts against sub-.500 teams?
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Fantastic analysis.
Can you really be “drilled” by a soft-tossing lefty? If he can break your wrist, sure.
FBC.
The sun on the balcony is almost unbearable, worse than the booing fans in Chicago shedding miserable light on his failures at work.
list.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
by BuehrleMan on Nov 15, 2011 9:45 AM CST reply actions 3 recs
well maybe now that someone has come out with it... they will be prepared next year.
good job jim. ridiculous.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
When this first happens against Chen next season
Venchie will slam someone’s helmet to the ground, charge the mound, and proceed to get put into a headlock by Chen, by which time Mr. Soft-tossing Lefty will commence with a fistful of noogies. The benches will clear and everyone will stay away from Bo who will have been brought in as the WSox designated enforcer/extra-special bench coach.
White Sox 2012: Helplessly hoping.
by greenlight on Nov 15, 2011 10:30 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
More likely...
We trade Danks, don’t sign Buehrle and Chen is in our rotation. He is a free agent.
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
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It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
by Rhubarb on Nov 15, 2011 11:17 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
what do you mean
AGAINST bruce chen
Bruce Chen watch: Day 14!
SHOW GREG WALKER THE NEW EMPLOYEE ORIENTATION VIDEO!
I think/hope Kenny has learned...
…from the last “hey, let’s get that Royal who always kills us” episode: Mark Teahen.
Baseball is life.
Also admitted he's a closet gay.
The sun on the balcony is almost unbearable, worse than the booing fans in Chicago shedding miserable light on his failures at work.
by winningugly on Nov 15, 2011 11:20 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
If the Braves actually trade Prado to Detroit for Young, they deserve to never make the playoffs again.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
atlanta already deserves to never make the playoffs again
on account of the tomahawk chop.
"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck
by BuehrleMan on Nov 15, 2011 11:24 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
Illini grad?
Sour grapes.
The sun on the balcony is almost unbearable, worse than the booing fans in Chicago shedding miserable light on his failures at work.
I believe his point was that FSU is where the chop originated.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
I believe I understand that.
KSU vet school has classes in pomposity? Or are you naturally arrogant?
Wait, you are Italian. I understand. Carry on. ;)
The sun on the balcony is almost unbearable, worse than the booing fans in Chicago shedding miserable light on his failures at work.
by winningugly on Nov 15, 2011 1:57 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
who you calling a cracker, honky?
brndnprkns: I'm pretty sure the "badass" value of your life is closer to Gigli than The Dark Knight
by whitesoxmatt on Nov 16, 2011 5:45 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Whatever happened to John Rocker??
Warning: Read my posts at your own risk!
by JofpGallagher on Nov 16, 2011 5:46 AM CST up reply actions
what the hell! the Orioles brought back the cartoon bird!
I announced my candidacy for their GM job when everyone was turning it down and I announced my first order of business would be to bring back the old logo.
fucking duquette has been pilfering my tweets.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 15, 2011 11:57 AM CST reply actions 1 recs
too bad the padres aren't making better use of their old uniforms and that sweet friar logo.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Nov 15, 2011 12:30 PM CST up reply actions
the only way it will come back now is if the friar is in camo.
I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.
by thatshortkid on Nov 15, 2011 12:40 PM CST up reply actions 1 recs
I was in SD last summer
Friar dolls are still hot sellers at the concession stands…if the Padres are smart they’ll bring him back…
Baseball is life.
They have bigger fish to fry
Like just inking Mark Kotsay to a 1 year deal. With that pressing issue done, they may turn their attention to the friar.
The Brewers are my pick for last in the NLC.
And the Fathers are now guaranteed a playoff berth.
The sun on the balcony is almost unbearable, worse than the booing fans in Chicago shedding miserable light on his failures at work.
We can only imagine the UFC style fight that took place
Between Kotsay and Pierre to be Ozzie’s 4th OF in Miami. I can only assume Kotsay got in some good shots early, but Pierre simply outworked him into submission, since nobody works harder than Juan Pierre.
Beast mode?

At the beginning of each stage, both players have a set amount of energy that is used to activate “Beast Mode”, which causes the character to change into a Beast
by Shoeless In SC on Nov 15, 2011 6:55 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
Source: wiki
and my Playstation game pile
by Shoeless In SC on Nov 15, 2011 6:55 PM CST up reply actions
Bloody Roar 2 was fantastic.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
I just now discovered they had sequels
one of my favorite moves in the first game was to get the Gorilla dude, wind up his fist windmill style, then wait for my opponent to unsuspectedly walk forward into instant death. Full health bar? Didn’t matter. Instant death.
by Shoeless In SC on Nov 15, 2011 9:01 PM CST up reply actions
I always played as Stun in 2.
Giant Hercules beetle.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
Moving from their now old logo back to trucker hats with the cartoon bird on them is probably the only move anyone could have made to make the Marlins uniforms look not that bad in comparison.
It’s hideous. A travesty. No wonder no one wanted the GM job if this was in the pipes. I could deal with bad ownership and inheriting that mess of a team, but not this.
by mechanical turk on Nov 15, 2011 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
I love that cartoon bird
Best move the Orioles have made since they drafted Markakis
Baseball is life.
Jim, you mention this intriguing tome "White Sox Outsider 2012".
3 questions: 1. When is it available to be ordered? 2. What is the pricing? 3. Will the author autograph it on request?
The sun on the balcony is almost unbearable, worse than the booing fans in Chicago shedding miserable light on his failures at work.
4. Are there illustrations?
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
5. Where's my burrito?
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Nov 15, 2011 2:19 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
i want some taquitos.
I love seasons too. That's why I live in a place that skips the shitty ones.
by thatshortkid on Nov 15, 2011 3:59 PM CST up reply actions
Soon!
Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.
by Jim Margalus on Nov 15, 2011 7:05 PM CST up reply actions
I sure hope so.
Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.
by Jim Margalus on Nov 15, 2011 7:04 PM CST up reply actions
1. Probably end of February, early March.
2. $19.95 if I can help it.
3. If the author and book are in the same location at the same time, certainly.
Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.
by Jim Margalus on Nov 15, 2011 7:04 PM CST up reply actions
the sox should buy out every copy to try and erase this season from history.
I DON’T KNOW I GOT IT FROM MY NEE-NAW WHEN I WAS BUT FIVE
They'd also have to (further) lobotomize their entire fan base.
by Shoeless In SC on Nov 15, 2011 9:02 PM CST up reply actions
which is why you said 'further'
doi
NAOPOS
by blackoutsox on Nov 15, 2011 10:17 PM CST up reply actions
brain surgeons can do some serious money-sign finger-rubbing
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
Erase? We must LEARN from history....
…else we are doomed to repeat it…or words to that effect…
Baseball is life.
We may not lead the league in wins next year...
…but it will be a step in the right direction if we don’t lead the league in HBPs for the nth consecutive year…RV needs to fix this problem…
There are many reasons I dislike the Twins, but their obvious relish for throwing at the Sox in the 2010 season, and the success they had doing so (“Did it hit him in the jaw?” “It did.”), is at the top of my list.
Baseball is life.
White Sox baseball circa 2011: we don't retaliate for HBPs...
…we make commercials about them!
Baseball is life.
As long as we have Carlos Quentin, we're going to be near the top.
Ventura isn’t going to be responsible for the remarkable dropoff in HBP we see this next season. Not having Juan Pierre and possibly not having Carlos Quentin will be the difference.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"

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