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Reading Room: The other store on 35th Street

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With all the hubbub, ado and carrying-on over the opening of the Chicago Sports Depot, it did make me wonder how Grandstand, the store on the corner of 35th and Wallace, would fare in the future.

Fortunately, the Southtown Star's  Phil Arvia also had that question in mind. He talks to the Pete Powers, Grandstand's owner, and Brooks Boyer, and the result is a pretty interesting column that sheds some light on how the Sports Depot came to be.

There seems to be plenty of mutual respect between the two parties, even though they're running similar operations five blocks away from each other. In fact, Powers says the White Sox asked him to run their new store -- except Grandstand would've had to close to make it happen.

I can see Grandstand taking a bit of a hit, but given that Grandstand sits away from The Cell -- where a lot of casual fans or out-of-area visitors wouldn't walk by regardless -- it seems like the two can coexist. Especially if the Depot's prices have the same markup as the other stadium/street souvenir areas.

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A/V Room

 

 

Broadcasting live from the Depot on Saturday, Chris Rongey talks with Rick Hahn during the second hour of White Sox Weekly. Hahn, of course, can't get into specifics, but there are a few things to glean from it:

*Early trade talks seem more serious than in years past, perhaps due to a rather uninspiring free agent market.

*Teams have inquired about players besides the usual suspects (Carlos Quentin, Gavin Floyd, John Danks).

*The Sox don't know exactly which direction they'll take, and it might take at least another week to 10 days.

*If the Sox choose to rebuild, Hahn thinks it would be more like the '07-08 rebuilding, rather than a drastic, multi-year process.

*Chris Sale's future in the rotation is independent of any Mark Buehrle decision, and they're looking at 150 innings at this point (subject to change).

*Also at this point, they're planning on using Jose Quintana and Donnie Veal as starters at Double-A and Triple-A, respectively. Quintana will try to refine a "slurvy curveball," and they want to see what Veal will have 18 months off Tommy John Surgery.

*Robin Ventura's name was on the list of possible future managers when they were compiling a dossier for the previous manager search in 2003. That list also included Bud Black, Sandy Alomar Jr. and Dave Martinez, among others.

The [Illinois Sports Facilities Authority] has come under scrutiny lately for a series of issues related to its management agreement, including paying $7 million in taxpayer money for a new restaurant across the street from the stadium that sends all profits to the baseball team. Experts have said stadium authorities should steer clear of economic development.

Heh. Welp.

J.J. tries to figure out where Philip Humber's 2012 numbers will fall on the spectrum between his 2011 performance (still seems optimistic) and ZIPS (quite pessimistic).

Fornelli makes a pretty good point about the 15-team leagues with interleague every day -- it would kind of suck for an contending American League team to be playing without its DH in a much-needed late-season series. Then again, this would probably still benefit the White Sox.

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others examples of what a 2007-2008 rebuilding would look like?

letting sale take his lumps is one..

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Highly underrated, Mark Kotsay became the best defensive designated hitter in American League history in 2010.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Nov 21, 2011 7:52 AM CST reply actions  

Change-of-scenery prospects like Quentin and Floyd.

Looking for guaranteed major-league return on any prospect swap.

Whales! Squids! Sharks! They're everywhere! Hello, I am Poseidon! Now, when people told me I was crazy that thinly sliced roast beef would be a delicious fast-food option, I knew it was the greatest idea, and you can thank me later for Arby's.

by Jim Margalus on Nov 21, 2011 11:04 AM CST up reply actions  

thanks for input

i knew you had described this silent ‘rebuilding’ during 2007 offseason, silent b/c kenny never referred to rebuilding. so it’s interesting to see that hahn refers to that offseason as ‘rebuilding’

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Highly underrated, Mark Kotsay became the best defensive designated hitter in American League history in 2010.

by onlysoxfaninbasel on Nov 22, 2011 8:40 AM CST up reply actions  

I'd be ecstatic if Humber could throw 200 innings of 4.20 ERA ball.

I think the ERA is entirley do-able. The innings on the other hand, I’m not so sure.

by polodude017 on Nov 21, 2011 8:36 AM CST reply actions  

Seattle Mariners outfielder Greg Halman killed
Seattle Mariners outfielder Greg Halman was stabbed to death early Monday and his brother was arrested as a suspect, Dutch police said.

Rotterdam Police spokeswoman Patricia Wessels said police were called to a home in the port city in the early hours of the morning and found the 24-year-old Dutch player bleeding from a stab wound.

The officers and ambulance paramedics were unable to resuscitate Halman.

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/sports/2016815302_apbbamarinershalmankilled.html?prmid=4939

by larry on Nov 21, 2011 9:15 AM CST reply actions  

just came on here to post the same thing

holy shit that sucks

I DON’T KNOW I GOT IT FROM MY NEE-NAW WHEN I WAS BUT FIVE

by e-gus on Nov 21, 2011 9:16 AM CST up reply actions  

Was just in the Netherlands last week

and a colleague was saying how Rotterdam was one of the worst places to live in the Netherlands due to lots of crime.

by ParisSox on Nov 21, 2011 9:53 AM CST up reply actions  

which makes it even worse that it is suspected that his brother did it

It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity

by Rhubarb on Nov 21, 2011 9:58 AM CST up reply actions  

Terrible.

And today we can celebrate our victory around the pike still skewering the rotten skeleton of The Cheat.

by winningugly on Nov 21, 2011 1:24 PM CST up reply actions  

omg! ttyl

It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity

by Rhubarb on Nov 21, 2011 10:59 AM CST up reply actions  

danks has "top of the order speed"!!

intruiging.

"michael gilhaney is an example of a man that is nearly banjaxed from the principal of the atomic theory. would it astonish you to hear that he is nearly half a bicycle?" ~~ sergeant pluck

by BuehrleMan on Nov 21, 2011 11:08 AM CST up reply actions  

yeah, that is insane

He also has, middle of the order speed and bottom of the order speed.

It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity

by Rhubarb on Nov 21, 2011 11:09 AM CST up reply actions  

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