Bittersweet anniversary for Sox
Six years ago yesterday was a bittersweet day in White Sox history. I was just recovering from my World Series hangover when Kenny Williams made the announcement on November 25th, 2005 that he had traded Aaron Rowand, Daniel Haigwood and later Gio Gonzalez to the Phillies for Jim Thome. The trade slapped drunken happy White Sox fans out of their World Series coma.
A lot of people weren't very happy about that trade. Rowand was considered by some to be the heart of the championship team. The guy that would run through the wall to catch a ball for you and on Sundays during the winter would be in Chicago on the Bears sideline. He was one of the more popular Sox players before, and seemingly got even more popular after the trade. Meanwhile, Thome was coming back off of an injury plagued season and Ryan Howard filled in remarkably for him. Thome was the odd man out.
The sad part of that trade for me was that it signaled the end of Frank Thomas' career on the South Side. There was no way the Sox were going to have room for Thome and Thomas, even if free agent Paul Konerko left for greener pastures. Konerko would resign with the Sox 5 days later and Frank would sign with the Oakland A's on January 31st, 2006 for $500,000. Thomas went on to finish fourth in the MVP voting that year as he had a remarkable 2nd half and led Oakland all the way to the ALCS.
Thome had a good season in his own right, as he finished 12th in the MVP voting with 42 homers and a 1.014 OPS. Meanwhile, Rowand had a down year in Philadelphia, mostly due to this. Rowand had a big season in 2007 as he hit .309/.374/.515 with 27 homers. After discussing a return to the South Side, Rowand took the Giants offer of 5 years/ 60 million dollars. That proved to be an albatross of a contract for the Giants as Rowand was only worth 2.6 BWAR during his stay in San Francisco. Rowand will be collecting 12 million from the Giants next year and is currently searching for work.
Kenny clearly won that trade. Thome was a solid producer for nearly four seasons on the South Side, with some highlight moments. None bigger than this one. Rowand had a big year and earned a large contract which he didn't live up to. Thomas had a huge year in 2006 and earned a nice contract from the Blue Jays. He had a good 2007, but was out of baseball midway through 2008. We also reacquired Gio Gonzalez and Gavin Floyd for an injured Freddy Garcia which was icing on the cake.
Kenny Williams was killing it in those times. Now he has been forced to get creative again. Hopefully Kenny can get back to his mid 2000s successes instead of his recent failures.
Maybe the first move Kenny should make is to sign Rowand to be the 5th outfielder. After all, Thomas is back as a White Sox ambassador and Thome has resigned with the Phillies to help take over for the injured Ryan Howard.
This would complete the circle of life.
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could you imagine if aaron outproduced rios?
by obnoxious american on Nov 26, 2011 8:18 AM CST reply actions
Yes.
Yes I could.
Furious George! What happened to your beautiful face?!?
by AirTrafficAJ on Nov 26, 2011 4:44 PM CST up reply actions
Not a hard thing to do
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by JofpGallagher on Nov 28, 2011 5:52 AM CST up reply actions
In a case of life coming full circle, this was my reaction both to reading about this trade and reading that the Twins signed Thome fourish years later

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by billyok on Nov 26, 2011 4:42 PM CST reply actions 3 recs
Well, you weren't here then but..
I’m pretty sure most of us couldn’t have been happier. By most measures Rowand was the most obvious “pick to replace” after ’05. The best position to upgrade.
Nothing bittersweet about it for me, every ball hit to Rowand was an adventure and his second half bat was atrocious.
Shit happens.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
He did absolutely suck in 2H2005,
including the WS. Good chemistry guy, though.
And today we can celebrate our victory around the pike still skewering the rotten skeleton of The Cheat.
I thought Rowand was a fine CF
Though I listened to most of the games in 2005, since MLB.tv didn’t exist yet. But I remember watching four straight Sox games in August, and it was the Aaron Rowand Defensive Spectacular every damned game.
I was there for the last game against the Yankees, where he made seven catches, and his play practically deflated the Stadium (you can hear it with the Yankees’ broadcasters). People were asking me about him on the subway ride back to Midtown.
by Jim Margalus on Nov 27, 2011 1:50 PM CST up reply actions
It also helped Rowand that Juan Uribe scored the winning run.
He reached on a single that Bernie Williams played into a triple. So for Yankees fans, it was a pretty stark contrast in defensive ability.
by Jim Margalus on Nov 27, 2011 1:53 PM CST up reply actions
SSS.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
by Chiburb on Nov 27, 2011 3:21 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Just as "every ball hit" is an overstatement.
The truth … is somewhere in the middle.
by Jim Margalus on Nov 27, 2011 3:55 PM CST up reply actions
It isn't overstatement if you saw him. You held your breath every tortuous route.
If it is somewhere in the middle, I don’t think the words “fine CF” would be used.
But isn’t the argument pointless in an “Eyetest KenWo” thread?
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
Since we're arguing about eye tests, it's *extremely* appropriate.
FWIW, the defensive metrics have him between good and excellent in CF in 2005. He was first in Plus-Minus, and second in UZR to Andruw Jones. Also scored well in Total Zone Runs and FRAA, but I can’t find leaguewide rankings for those.
Now that’s a discussion not worth having here.
by Jim Margalus on Nov 27, 2011 11:47 PM CST up reply actions
Wow. I remember it so much differently.
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Nov 28, 2011 12:48 AM CST up reply actions
I thought he was pretty good out there. he made me sick at the plate though.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
That was the best series of center field defense I've ever witnessed.
That came off Hawkesque, but it’s true. I’m sure many Sox fans consider that his signature moment(s).
Some people get so rich they lose all respect for humanity. That's how rich I want to be.
by MarketMaker on Nov 28, 2011 12:48 AM CST up reply actions
it was unbelieveable.
was before i knew about defensive metrics, but still.
by obnoxious american on Nov 28, 2011 9:10 AM CST up reply actions
The thing that I'm reminded of every day since the trade
is how much of a black hole center field has become. Rowand was by no means the Hall of Fame outfielder that many of the baffoons in the left field bleachers want to believe he is, but the position has had absolutely no stability since the trade.
alex rios has been stable there for 2+ seasons.
by larry on Nov 27, 2011 3:32 PM CST up reply actions 2 recs
Bwahahaha!
And today we can celebrate our victory around the pike still skewering the rotten skeleton of The Cheat.
by winningugly on Nov 27, 2011 6:14 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
it has been terrible. i wrote about it here.
http://www.southsidesox.com/2011/10/15/2491825/the-domino-effect-of-bad-decisions
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
And here:
yah i have no problem with trading rowand. Thome was pretty good for the White Sox… and filled a need when thomas and everett weren’t brought back.
they just picked the wrong guy to replace him. they thought anderson was the real deal and he wasn’t. chris young ended up being the guy that should have gotten the job, but he was sent out to AZ for Javy. If they traded anderson for vazquez instead, we are probably never having this conversation.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
by KenWo4LiFe on Jul 23, 2011 5:08 PM CDT
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
oh i agree with it. i'm not saying it was a bad deal.
it was a good deal. kenny won it. its just unfortunate that anderson wasn’t able to step in which led to the big hole that we have had ever since.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
larry at the time:
trade value Just about everyone on hear was telling us that we should trade Pods because his trade value was likely at its highest. Well, Rowand’s trade value was likely at it highest this offseason and we got good value for him.
We’re going to miss Aaron’s glove but, as long as Thome plays 145 games or so, this is a good trade. We need a left-handed bat – preferably with power – and we got it. I’m guessing DHing will help to keep Thome healthy.
We gave up some prospects. That’s the price for any good player, especially when the other team is eating salary. This opens up a spot for our other young outfield prospects. It also leaves money available for Paulie. All-around, a good trade. We can’t just stand pat and think we’re going to win again next year. The BoSox improved and we have to reply.
by larry on Nov 23, 2005 4:40 PM CST up reply actions
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"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
larry was a horseshit writer in 2005.
And he capitalized his proper nouns. WTF is that?
And today we can celebrate our victory around the pike still skewering the rotten skeleton of The Cheat.


























