The AL Central cellar stirs
Summing up an eventful day at the bottom of the AL Central...
After amassing a bushel of prospects to build baseball's most enviable farm system, the Kansas City Royals finally began to reap the rewards last season with the promotions of Eric Hosmer, Mike Moustakas and Salvador Perez.
On Monday, Dayton Moore began the team-shaping stage by trading White Sox killer Melky Cabrera to the San Francisco Giants for enigmatic lefty Jonathan Sanchez. It's a trade that makes as much sense as you want it to make. After all, the Royals sold high to buy low, which is kinda weird.
On paper for 2012, it's fine. The two teams swapped unnecessary parts. The Giants didn't need Sanchez, but they did need a hitter. The Royals didn't need Cabrera, but they needed a starting pitcher who had a chance of being good. So both teams found a likely upgrade their weakest facets.
I'm not a big fan of Sanchez, though. He'll turn 29 in a fortnight, and walk problems have limited him to just one good year out of five. He's always been pegged as somebody with more potential than his current back-of-the-rotation profile would suggest, but time is running out, if it hasn't already. And even if he puts it all together, he'll be a free agent after the 2012 season unless the Royals act with an extension.
So this move doesn't register on the Richter scale for me like I thought it might. The Royals get the added bonus of opening up a spot for Lorenzo Cain, which is valuable in its own right. But I don't think Sanchez is one of the pitchers the Royals ultimately need, unlike, say, the way I thought Doug Fister was a great fit for Detroit.
Plus, Melky won't be around to batter Mark Buehrle anymore. Unless Buehrle isn't around to be battered. He's going to meet with the Marlins.
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And up in Minnesota, the Twins fired Bill Smith, their GM of the last four years. Over his tenure, the Twins went to the postseason twice, and just missed by the margin of a one-game playoff in 2008. Contrast that to Kenny Williams, who has been to the postseason twice in his 11 years on the job, and man, Jerry Reinsdorf's patience seems endless.
Williams can at least point to his pitching staff, which is a contending-quality group from top to bottom. At this time, the Twins really have nothing to build around, and Smith has to accept most of the blame.
Granted, some of the circumstances are beyond his control. Justin Morneau's six-year, $80 million deal looked like a smart move until he took John McDonald's knee to his head. And while Joe Mauer's contract won't end well, Smith was under intense pressure to retain the local-boy-made-good.
But he compounded those situations with some total head-scratchers. Trading Joe Mauer Insurance Wilson Ramos for Matt Capps. Trading J.J. Hardy for nothing and replacing him with Tsuyoshi Nishioka. Trading Johan Santana at his peak and having nothing to show for it. Trading Matt Garza and Jason Barlett for Delmon Young. None of those trades even looked good on paper, and when throwing those unfavorable deals on top of Mauer and Morneau's dead weight, the system couldn't handle it.
In his defense, Smith had to deal with some pretty difficult decisions in his tenure. I don't think many GMs would want to have a Santana or Mauer situation on their hands, and he also had to decide on Torii Hunter shortly after taking the job.
Williams, on the other hand, has driven the team in the wrong direction without the pressure of these "damned-if-you-do-or-don't" situations. Paul Konerko's two contracts had their own complications, but Konerko did Williams a favor by earning his money (to date). Otherwise, as Hawk Harrelson might say, every wrong turn made by Williams has been self-induced. I'm not sure which is worse.
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don't even think about it, MB
"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."
by BobbySouthSide on Nov 8, 2011 6:31 AM CST via iPhone app reply actions
After waking up to the Midwest weather this morning
I’d be willing to meet with any team south of the Mason-Dixon line
by HyperbolicFrolic on Nov 8, 2011 11:02 AM CST up reply actions
buehrle is getting into a bidding war apparently.
thanks for the memories. no way i bid against the yanks, sox, rangers, marlins.
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2011/11/yankees-red-sox-rangers-interested-in-buehrle.html
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You don't want to bid against the Marlins
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
That is why I said,
You don’t want to bid against the Marlins
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
by Rhubarb on Nov 8, 2011 3:00 PM CST up reply actions
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
by Rhubarb on Nov 8, 2011 4:37 PM CST up reply actions 4 recs
Part of me thinks it might be good if the Marlins are the top bidder
You would have to believe KW would do everything humanly possible to prevent a franchise icon from leaving the team for Ozzie. And with 90% of Reinsdorf’s decisions weighed on loyalty, relationships with the org, etc. this would be a circumstance where he may act emotionally. Didn’t the Sox have an organizational rule that they didn’t give pitchers 4 year deals? Then Buehrle got one. This could be the one situation where the Sox maniacal attitude about loyalty and all that stuff works for the positive.
do we want them to act emotionally?
if the marlins are going to go throwing around big money i don’t want the sox to match them.
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Exactly.
No emotional decisions. We are doing fantastically with financially calculated moves such as picking 3.75 millions salary for a reliever we may no need.
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by JofpGallagher on Nov 8, 2011 5:57 PM CST up reply actions
No, not saying they should act irrationally
Just that this is the White Sox, and the way they conduct business is often with certain rules for certain guys, and extra points for history with the team, etc. On top of that, the GM just won a power struggle with a manager that he despises. All I am saying is that I could see KW somehow finding the wiggle room to match something halfway reasonable if that was the competing bid from the Marlins more than I could see him matching it for a team like the Rangers.
Managing things with so much emotion involved isn’t a smart thing to do in my opinion, I am just saying that I can envision a scenario where that comes into play because of who Buehrle is and what he has meant.
The emotional dimensions for the Sox are the same no matter who the top non-Sox bidder is
The front office won’t be any more attached to Buehrle because it’s the Marlins.
The only thing that’s different with the Marlins is there will be idiots popping off on how the Sox should have kept Ozzie. But if Buehrle signs anywhere else the Sox are going to lose that news cycle anyway and will get a couple angry questions about it at SoxFest. The Ozzie angle would mostly change the content, only making the negatives a little worse.
If any team gets him but us I want it to be Florida
I’ll be watching alot of marlins games next year to see if Ozzie intentionally fucked us this last year, you know…compare and contrast
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
I had read that viewership was expected to double with the new stadium and all,
but I didn’t think it would happen so quickly.
by mechanical turk on Nov 8, 2011 10:24 PM CST up reply actions 7 recs
This is exceptional.
The sun on the balcony is almost unbearable, worse than the booing fans in Chicago shedding miserable light on his failures at work.
by winningugly on Nov 8, 2011 11:46 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
Why would you think Kenny is on the verge of being outsted?
Even if he deserves it, we know how loyal Reinsdorf is. Paxson tried to quit and Reinsdorf basically wouldn’t let him. Kenny allegedly offered to step aside and Reinsdorf was having none of it.
By keeping his job
While the guy who couldn’t get along with is a thousand miles away.
You saying he would offer like 8 years and an obscene amount of money?
and a permanent pitching coach job after he retires, if he wants one, and all the tarp slides he wants?
by Shoeless In SC on Nov 8, 2011 5:31 PM CST up reply actions
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Didn’t the Sox have an organizational rule that they didn’t give pitchers 4 year deals? Then Buehrle got one.
And then four months later, Scott Linebrink got one.
"That baseball is the smartest thing out on that field." —Hawk Harrelson
Who was last starter before Buehrle that they signed to a 4 year deal?
Help me out Mike.
Just relievers.
The sun on the balcony is almost unbearable, worse than the booing fans in Chicago shedding miserable light on his failures at work.
by winningugly on Nov 8, 2011 11:47 PM CST via mobile up reply actions
4 years 20 million.
december 11, 1996.
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by KenWo4LiFe on Nov 9, 2011 12:08 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
My daughter's birthday
will never be considered a perfect day after this revelation.
Thanks, Ken, you DB.
The sun on the balcony is almost unbearable, worse than the booing fans in Chicago shedding miserable light on his failures at work.
by winningugly on Nov 9, 2011 12:57 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Put your claws back in, sweetheart.
Ken can handle himself. He plays well.
The sun on the balcony is almost unbearable, worse than the booing fans in Chicago shedding miserable light on his failures at work.
by winningugly on Nov 9, 2011 7:00 AM CST via mobile up reply actions
Yep
And wasn’t Navarro kind of the reason for that policy? That was nearly 15 years ago.
They did offer Bartolo Colon four years.
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walk problems have limited him to just one good year out of five
I don’t object to the idea that he’s not that great, but I’m not sure which one was the good year. It seems like the three years from 2008-2010 were pretty equal:
2008: 8.94 K/9, 4.27 BB/9, 41.1 GB%
2009: 9.75 K/9, 4.85 BB/9, 40.7 GB%
2010: 9.54 K/9, 4.47 BB/9, 41.5 GB%
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
You'll see.
2008: 158 IP, 88 ERA+
2009: 163 IP, 101 ERA+
2010: 193 IP, 127 ERA+
Might have lucked into it, but it was still a good year.
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by Jim Margalus on Nov 8, 2011 11:19 AM CST up reply actions
OK. Wasn't sure if you thought there was anything more substantial than that to his 2010.
a VERY AVERAGE Sox Machine refugee
Don't Forget
Lifetime 38% quality starts. In the NL West.
I'm interested to see what he can do in a new system.
Power lefties seem to be enigmatic and can take a while to develop. He’s already shown he can be good. Not the worst gamble for the Royals. He went through arm troubles last year but they must think he’s still got the stuff.
by Daniel Berlyn on Nov 8, 2011 12:43 PM CST up reply actions
why have we given up the cuban market dammit.
i want this Cespedes dammit.
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we're oughta nickels
"Good teams win games. Bad teams have meetings."
by BobbySouthSide on Nov 8, 2011 10:43 AM CST via iPhone app up reply actions
Don't worry...we still have centerfield covered with Alex Ri.....errr...damnit I want this Cespedes too!!!
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by JofpGallagher on Nov 8, 2011 11:10 AM CST up reply actions
That Cespedes video is so fantastically odd.
I would think/hope seeing a Cespedes workout was part of Kenny’s scouting trip to the DR. That does strike me as the kind of thing that would get a GM on the plane, and it seems like damn near everyone has seen him or will be soon.
picturing him in a white sox uniform while watching that movie with the porno music
gave me a boner.
I’m not kidding. lol
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see for yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aW9ge8l3jY8
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That's the revised, sans pig on a spit at the end version
Here’s the original as described by Kevin Goldstein on BP yesterday.
Switching up the soundtrack to extend the easy listening music throughout actually adds to the oddness. Taking out the pig on a spit detracted from the awesomeness.
lmfao.
thats great. as is the (i assume dad) dancing around without his shirt on. and is that Ahman Green the packers player that he is playing with? i think it is. lol
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This is the best training video i've seen since this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wjvZOh4OzBs
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I stumbled upon this yesterday:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MY_a7B2QO1U
The guy is equal parts Napoleon Dynamite and Uncle Rico.
Why buy the cow when the milk is kinda bitchy?
This guy is ridiculous
Those behind the back catches are something else.
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
yah. this guy is immediately one of my favorite players for 2012.
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He looks shady in the outfield but his swing is...schwing!
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
Yep - clearly outstanding...
reminds me of another player that used to do that prior to games – think he used to lead off for us… Pods
"ass hole thi is the same line up whit leftys you idiot"
he signed tadahito iguchi just by watching a few highlights.
make the call Kenny and i’ll take back everything bad i’ve ever said about you!
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Think of the tie-ins possible around the park
A pig roast stand, a “leg press your friends” area
Just watched the video.
CORE STRENGTH would be the marketing slogan forever.
Sign him.
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by Jim Margalus on Nov 8, 2011 12:00 PM CST up reply actions
KC stole him.
And just for fun:
As well as becoming acquainted with Cain, Bialek has had at least one more famous friend over the years. Current White Sox analyst Steve Stone confirmed Monday night that he dated Bialek in the 1980s.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-herman-cain-accuser-1108-20111108,0,4035523.story
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
"She had a good fastball," said Stone,
“but not a lot of command of her breaking stuff.”
“I took her aside and said, ‘look: if that slider’s not working, you need to stop throwing that particular pitch so much.’ But she mumbled something about having a boyfriend and needing to work in the morning and ran out of the car.”
by son_of_sophist on Nov 8, 2011 12:05 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I wouldn't be surprised at all if Buerhle ends up under Guillen's management again
Marlins pursuing two players I wish the WS were also after: Reyes and MB… oh well, I still have hopes we will sign MB again. no hopes for Reyes though.
Sanchez for Melky….behh… as exciting as Ollie Perez for Nate McLouth
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