Peavy picks favorite parent, takes partial blame
It's best never to hope for anything related to Jake Peavy. He's capable of the excellent, but history always says that he'll overdo it, and his progress will come crashing down.
That said, I'm trying to resist being mildly encouraged by his response to Mark Gonzales in the wake of Joe Cowley's attempt to sway the discourse against Don Cooper.
"Ozzie didn't care for me at the end because I was shut down," Peavy said. "It didn't end on good terms. The one thing about it, Coop and I have an open relationship. There was one time where I disagreed about something he said about me being on and off after coming back from the surgery, and I told him about it."
First, the White Sox let Mark Buehrle leave with dignity (their own, I mean). Now, Peavy resists the bait. I'm not ready to christen it The Era of Professional Feelings yet, but it's a nice start for what most needs to happen under Robin Ventura's watch. It could turn out that Ventura is a natural manager, but his reputation as a strong adult presence was the reason Kenny Williams came calling.
While allowing for the possibility that Peavy could be talking out of both sides of his mouth, he's still more credible than Cowley's Anonymous Q. Pitcher, who said Peavy thought Cooper threw him under the bus multiple times.
Even better, he fills in another missing piece of Cowley's column. When Peavy felt fatigued after his first September start and thought cutting his season short would be the best option, Guillen responded:
"Right now, I don’t think I’m going to throw in the towel. If they want to throw in the towel that’s their problem. I think he will prepare himself for his next start. I don’t think there should be any problem with that. I expect him to go out there for his next start.’’
Peavy's 2011 season both began and ended with his manager publicly criticizing his self-assessment abilities. And sure, they're ripe for criticism, but it's amusing that Guillen couldn't find a way to say "no" to Peavy until Peavy wanted to miss starts. Then he disagreed with him.
Fittingly enough, even his last decision on Peavy didn't stick. Peavy said he would consult with Cooper and doctors, and sure enough, he was done for the season. Really -- this sequence of events was reported in Cowley's own paper and everything.
Guillen, at least to this point, isn't holding a grudge.
Then again, if I were Guillen and I didn't have to manage Peavy anymore, I might be all smiles, too.
UPDATE:
Peavy one-ups Guillen on the well-wishing:
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i suppose this would be much ado about nothing if kenny just shut him down when he should've.
i’d imagine he left it in the hands of his staff, but when do you take charge?
by obnoxious american on Dec 14, 2011 10:39 PM CST reply actions
I suppose this would be much ado about nothing if Kenny hadn't insisted on re-trading for Peavy.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 15, 2011 7:22 AM CST up reply actions
This is my favorite soap
Great episode!
SHOW GREG WALKER THE NEW EMPLOYEE ORIENTATION VIDEO!
by billyok on Dec 14, 2011 11:11 PM CST reply actions 5 recs
Well I'm not afraid to be encouraged.
Sounds to me like Peavy finally learned to be realistic about his health. Still, I’m glad this is the last year of his contract. (What option?)
"That baseball is the smartest thing out on that field." —Hawk Harrelson
by mikecws91 on Dec 15, 2011 1:07 AM CST via mobile reply actions
$4 million (right) and no way it gets picked up.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 15, 2011 7:22 AM CST up reply actions
Also, Mark Parent is my favorite.
"That baseball is the smartest thing out on that field." —Hawk Harrelson
by mikecws91 on Dec 15, 2011 1:08 AM CST via mobile reply actions
Besides Konerko
Why everyone associated with this franchise such a teenage girl?
http://twitter.com/Kevbo_
Because that behavior was tolerated and encouraged by the manager who acted in kind,
If Ventura can put an end to senseless bickering and keep the team focused on swatting the ball over the fence and getting guys out…well…that alone might be worth an extra couple of wins.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic" - Crash Davis
by Servant2LordBeckham on Dec 15, 2011 1:51 AM CST up reply actions 4 recs
When teenage girls are good, they are REALLY good.
by South Side Expat on Dec 15, 2011 3:36 AM CST up reply actions
That's not how you spell my last name.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
by U-God on Dec 15, 2011 7:13 AM CST up reply actions 10 recs
Funniest U-God Post Ever.
"I considered throwing a volley, but since I'm considerably closer to Ford City than Dodge City, I figure it might have been misinterpreted."
It was going on before Ozzie too
The Sox love them some drama. Whether it is the crap with Marriotti before Oz was even hired, or the organization’s need to act like children anytime the name Scott Boras is mentioned and avoiding his players/prospects.
marriotti was the one who started and perpetuated it.
he must of did a frickin jig when ozzie came here.
by obnoxious american on Dec 15, 2011 3:37 PM CST up reply actions
Shame on you Kenny Williams
for reducing our off season to mere childish rumor and hearsay. You hold out for good value for your players and look what happens.
by ParisSox on Dec 15, 2011 1:54 AM CST via mobile reply actions
good scoop craig
out of context quote:
“You look at Punto’s raw statistics, and you’re not impressed. He’s Nick Punto.”
We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful what we pretend to be. -
I know it wasn't a scoop.
I am drink
We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful what we pretend to be. -
Hey Jim...
Your boy Cowley just called you out on Twitter.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic" - Crash Davis
by Servant2LordBeckham on Dec 15, 2011 7:46 AM CST reply actions
He also said the best place for Cubs info beyond info is Bleed Cubbie Blue.
KenWo, if that doesn’t wreck the man’s credibility for you, nothing will.
"Many people need desperately to receive this message: 'I feel and think much as you do, care about many of the things you care about, although most people do not care about them. You are not alone.'"
i don't know. i never read cubs info. maybe that is the best they have? ask jack M. he may know.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
the thing to get upset about is he threw out liptak's name.
me and that dude had some battles back in the day. i used to have reifert’s blog rocking. then larry brought me over here. that place is lucky to get 10 comments a month now.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
Hence the whole Kenwo4life=ratings monicker, right?
Best trade in the history of this blog.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic" - Crash Davis
by Servant2LordBeckham on Dec 15, 2011 9:42 AM CST up reply actions
screen grab?
(No, seriously asking).
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 15, 2011 8:06 AM CST up reply actions
If someone could do it for me that'd be nice. I don't know how to.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic" - Crash Davis
by Servant2LordBeckham on Dec 15, 2011 8:08 AM CST up reply actions
Thank you.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic" - Crash Davis
by Servant2LordBeckham on Dec 15, 2011 8:17 AM CST up reply actions
I'm going to war with this douchebag. It's on.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic" - Crash Davis
by Servant2LordBeckham on Dec 15, 2011 8:24 AM CST up reply actions
Not worth it, man. I understand the sentiment, but that's what Cowley wants.
To my knowledge, certain things were not known.
-James Murdoch
by 2ndHalfAdjustments on Dec 15, 2011 8:34 AM CST up reply actions
Obviously, its' Jim's choice to engage or not. Yours too I suppose.
But to me it’s just feeding the troll via an IM instead of a comment. It really won’t get you anywhere, arguments you can’t win, and feeds him the attention he needs to remain “relevant”.
I don’t want to say he’s a douchebag, but I heard he orders vinegar and water at the bar.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
by Chiburb on Dec 15, 2011 8:53 AM CST up reply actions 3 recs
I understand what both of you are saying. I would tend to agree.
But I was bored and had nothing else to do this morning but spar with Cowley Monster.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic" - Crash Davis
by Servant2LordBeckham on Dec 15, 2011 8:58 AM CST up reply actions
screen grab; PrtScn button, drop bitmap image into Paint via "Edit" --> "Paste"
White Sox 2012: Helplessly rebuilding?
See...I guess I know how to PrtSc...I just thought there was a way to select something
directly from twitter and save it as a file. Nevermind. I’m dumb.
"Relax, all right? Don't try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring. Besides that, they're fascist. Throw some ground balls. It's more democratic" - Crash Davis
by Servant2LordBeckham on Dec 15, 2011 9:13 AM CST up reply actions
I don't really think Cowley said anything offensive.
Jim likes taking shots at him. That’s true.
by Craig Grebeck on Dec 15, 2011 9:51 AM CST up reply actions
he put the sites name out there. if he didn't like it he wouldn't have said it.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
what was the point though?
does he think he’s so admired that someone would come here and defend his girlish honor?
by obnoxious american on Dec 15, 2011 11:13 AM CST up reply actions
If anything, Jim seems to bend over backwards to be fair to Cowley.
Despite the majority here (me!) wishing he’d just ignore him.
Hee.
"People of privilege will always risk their complete destruction rather than surrender any material part of their advantage."
John Kenneth Galbraith
One can be fair and still take shots.
Jim says the right things about Cowley. And those things are usually (rightfully) negative.
by Craig Grebeck on Dec 15, 2011 10:04 AM CST up reply actions
I am just shocked that Cowley didn't mention how awesome Kenwo is
he must have forgotten to include that
It came from afar and traveled sedately on, a shrug of eternity
by Rhubarb on Dec 15, 2011 10:31 AM CST up reply actions 1 recs
he must know i thought ozzie should have been fired 5 years ago.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
"Taking shots" is an oversimplication for dramatic, self-promotional effect...
…which makes it a very Cowley plug. But it was nice of him.
I criticize his work a lot, but my main goal is to separate what’s actually useful from what seems trumped-up. That ends up being a form of fairness, I guess, since I have to give him some credence when a lot of people would rather give him none.
by Jim Margalus on Dec 15, 2011 7:34 PM CST up reply actions
Re: Cowley's shout out. It's a good thing!
It’s a sign that Jim’s opinions carry some weight among the MSM who have been covering the Sox for quite some time (one of the neat things about attending the Robin Ventura newser was watching Robin talk to the print and radio reporters who covered him as a player).
As for Cowley…he’s the White Sox version of Rowland Evans and Robert Novak. They had a slant, they were a filter for a lot of dirty laundry, but they also broke some stories.
JC’s contention that Mark Liptak being the best thing about White Sox Interactive is also dead on the money. His knowledge of the White Sox borders on frightening.
What?! I ain't no Professor Pickles!
i remember some of the battles i'd have with liptak
they are the same ones i’d have with my dad. both know their shit.
even though i argued with him a lot… he was more realistic than most of the others on the inside the sox blog who would buy a turd with a white sox cap strapped to it.
Kenwo4life=ratings. Just call me Mr. USA Today.
thats the grandstand price
$21.99 at the depot
by e-gus on Dec 15, 2011 2:12 PM CST up reply actions 3 recs

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